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September 14th, 2009
09:46 AM ET

Opposition to President Obama's health care plan

As President Obama was "talking up" his plan for health care reform.

Tea party protesters were slamming it down as another example of government spending gone awry.

Republican Senator Jim Demint of South Carolina is taking part in the tea party rally.

Fredricka Whitfield asked him if there is any common ground in the health care debate that's becoming more polarizing by the day.


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soundoff (25 Responses)
  1. Mike Armstrong TX.

    The presidents plan is being hard to swallow by a united majority is it a good idea to pass a bill thats not agreed on.

    September 14, 2009 at 10:08 am |
  2. James of Houston

    Many of your viewers and listeners are not aware of this, but we have a “Public Insurance Option” which is now in effect in the State of Texas. Our “Texas Windstorm” pool is not an insurance company. It is the public option.

    Insurance companies do not want to assume the risk of wind and hurricane damage so close to the coast; therefore, the pool was set up to serve the needs of our homeowners.

    What the viewing public doesn't understand is that this pool is severely underfunded, and guess who bails out what’s left after it pays out all its funds? …. You and I do.

    The insurance companies that do business in the State get a bill from our state officials for the unfunded liability the pool leaves behind. If State Farm, for example, writes 20% of homes in the State, they get assessed 20% of the residual liability, while never collecting a penny or a dime from a risk they don't want. That cost gets passed on to the state-wide policyholders. As a result, customers in El Paso (a very dry region of the State) get to subsidize those of us who live on the coast.

    What a system! ... Can't wait for the National Public Health Care Option to become effective, it will be just as sweet!

    September 14, 2009 at 10:26 am |
  3. Matt, Washington DC

    People are scared of what they don't understand. The Administration was right when they said this was "Silly Season."
    The Circus was definitely in Town.

    Bury Healthcare with Kennedy?

    Just another disturbing sign at the
    Million Moron March.

    September 14, 2009 at 11:05 am |
  4. george in MD

    "no illegals will be receive tax funded health-care"!..our elected officials want us to believe...let see what our states is already does and state of California is bankrupt because of it.
    illegals have state drivers license that was giving to them by governance in charged.
    illegals already receive state tax funded care and other services.
    illegals as-up to now receive mortgages and register to vote with the use of illegal documents obtained illegally for the use as legal.
    illegals getting pregnant in a faster rate and have more than one kid or already have kids and receive infant-care(newborns-and baby birth-care) from state and some cases free housing.
    illegals kids attend school and receive free tax funded education.
    illegals in emergency room receive free heath-care.
    all these points are real known to us and the laws can't be enforced.
    if you think about it illegals are documented legals because they have legal residency ,bank mortgage or credit card and picture ID is driver license.
    American just have to accept the facts of the situation of illegals are legals and more to next topic.

    September 14, 2009 at 12:28 pm |
  5. Harrison N

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    September 14, 2009 at 12:29 pm |
  6. Jerry. Texas.

    A breath of fresh air. Senator Snowe, Senator Feinstein, and one other female Senator to whom I must apologize as her name escapes me, had a perfectly rational, sane discussion about healthcare on television on Sunday and they displayed the all too rare quality of hard headed common sense. I say turn the health care reform issue over to the women. Women get things done.

    September 14, 2009 at 12:33 pm |
  7. Canam

    Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business, frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise. They are the residue of centralized bureaucracy, of government by a self-anointed elite.

    September 14, 2009 at 1:27 pm |
  8. Lenny, Dallas

    If the republicans are so frustrated that a democrat is in the Whitehouse and democrats have a majority in congress, they will get a chance to correct that starting in 2010. For now, even though 59 million Americans voted for McCain, it was a whooping 10 MILLION votes less than what Obama received.

    So all that empty talk of "a majority of Americans" are against whatever is just that. Empty rhetoric. All the hateful politics that will only diminish the republican party even more as the economy recovers and health care reform is passed and every one realizes that all the republicans have to offer is fear and scare tactics, which was used to send Americans to a needless war that has cost more than a trillion dollars and more importantly thousands of dead and injured brave American soldiers.

    The party of no has nothing but empty rhetoric to offer and we have empirical evidence from the last 16 years of Clinton and Bush to make and informed judgment on how things end up.

    September 14, 2009 at 2:39 pm |
  9. Glen Shouse Jr., Georgetown, IL

    Why don't we document the names of all of these people who say they won't take health care that the government has their hands in and refuse them Medicare when they turn 65 to keep them true to their word. Then see how they feel about it.

    September 14, 2009 at 2:44 pm |
  10. Mrs. Eileen G. Curras widow Hernandez

    I cannot simply understand the protesters for Health Care Reform. How can denying Health Care Insurance be call free enterprising? The opposing party to Health Care Reform has used the scare tactics to claim that Health Care Reform will deny services to the elderly and social security consumers but how does the use of the tactics to scare people of their lives the fear to choose between on an others compare?
    There are exactly the same and the short message is this is not part of a free enterprise but discrimination. How can deny health care services to consumers with chronic conditions can be so almost similar to the discrimination that Section 504 of Rehabilitation Act of 1973 is just the same. President Obama needs to “talk up” his plan for health care reform.
    Tea party protesters are slamming it down on the negative attitude that fails to address attention to the reality. This is just another example of political agendas simply losing control. The only common ground in the health care debate is hate and discrimination.

    September 14, 2009 at 3:51 pm |
  11. svivar9087

    I'ts sad to see my country so divided, manipulated and full of hate. What's even more discouraging about of our future, are the children at these protest. Children who's parents are cramming their views down there throats, before they are old enough to know they have choices.

    Svivar9087
    Inglewood, California

    September 14, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  12. Steven

    To Mr. Shouse,
    My God, finally a rational idea to propose to right wing nut jobs and haters. Let them pay the outrageous insurance premiums or pay cash up front for their medical care, serve 'em right!!!

    September 14, 2009 at 6:41 pm |
  13. Betty Phillips

    Glen Shouse Jr here is a reply for you. Have you worked all your life and paid into Social Security? It is a benefit of Social security that you receive Medicare at the age of 65. Do you realize how long Americans have had Medicare? Do you realize that all young Americans that is fortunate enough to have a job still pays into Social Security? There is NO WAY the government should have their hands in this. I have worked from the age of 16 to the age of 62, now you figure out just how much I paid into Social Security and let me know if you think I should just say go ahead and take my money. Do you realize that Social security is the largest part of my monthly income? I still must pay for a Supplement insurance to help with the 20% that Medicare is unwilling to pay. However when my time comes to leave this great Country, Social Security will give the living spouse $250.00 for burial,
    now that is another joke, do you realize the cost of a burial ( a decent one that is). I will stand strongly against Obama trying to shove down my throat his lies on health care!!! I hope you find happiness in your life before you reach retirement age, that is when you begin to struggle with all the unfairness you get just because you aged.
    Think about this long and hard. NO WAY DO WE WANT OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN. Obama is not a trusting President.
    Betty

    September 14, 2009 at 7:42 pm |
  14. Charles

    Today I heard attacks on President Obama for undertaking too many projects at too fast a pace. During the presidential primaries and elections everyone argued that the president needed to be someone who could “hit floor running.” The argument was that Obama was too inexperienced to handle the urgency of the problems in America. Remember the 3:00 a.m. phone calls that only Hillary and McCain could handle. In the final analysis only Obama has the intelligence, the savvy, and the energy to handle the fast pace required for the job as president of the United States.

    Now the “Party of No” is saying wait on health care…Obama is moving too fast. The Party of No understands that if Obama’s health care plan fails now that it will not make it at a later date. If a health care bill were signed today, it would not be fully operational for approximately three years. As a lame duck president during either a first or second term, it would be utterly impossible to pass the health care bill. The politicians know that it is now or never for a health care reform plan.

    September 14, 2009 at 8:22 pm |
  15. Rita Fort Collins CO

    Why do you keep on giving these idiots air time. You are contributing to something that is becoming very dangerous and the more you give them coverage the worse they become and the more crazy people are attracted to them. I am afraid this is going to turn into something really ugly at a time when we need hope for our country to come together. You need to stop talking about Joe Wilson and all these other insane people who are just the fringes of our society. There are a lot of people out here who are hopeful, supportive of our government, and intelligent enough to know these people are very sick, angry people.

    September 15, 2009 at 2:34 am |
  16. Garfield

    The people of the United States have the attention of most of the developed world right now. Not because they are the leading country, the most powerful and the major world trading nation. No, not for any of those reasons but because they are the most backward nation in the world when it comes to establishing health care for al their citizens. I am from Canada and we are completely bewildered by the goings on down there. What kind of a country has a population that goes to town hall meetings with an assault rifle and a handgun, only in America. How many people call their leader a liar, a nazi, only in America. What is wrong with you people?

    Doctors don`t want health care reform because it means 50 million more people in the system and they are scared it will effect them, seniors are afraid that funding will be cut to their health care so don`t want reform. Is everyone in the United States selfish, self-centered doesn't anyone care about anyone else? So help me with the things that are going on down there right now I am very concerned that civil war will break out and as Canada is just across the 49th it might effect us. You are becoming a disgrace to the civilized world and should be very much ashamed of yourselves. TEA demonstrations, mad talk show hosts, nuts running loose, only in America they say, dam good thing to and a real pity.

    September 15, 2009 at 9:05 am |
  17. Paul H Stokes

    Hi Garrfield: Painful as your comments are, I have to agree with you! What has happened to our Nation? I have risked life and limb in three Wars,and bloodied in numerous waterfront job actions for the benefit of other US citizens as well as myself. It would appear that succeeding generations have deteriorated into a greedy, self-absorbed "Me Too-to Hell with you" attitude that is a far cry from the 1920 generation I grew up in. Is it because we have become a nation of Market Place Gamblers, and Con Artist instead of a nation of producers of quality material goods. Our citizentry just recently woke up to the corporate corruption and ellected another FDR type saviour and now we are witnessing the re-incarnation of fascist Brown Shirts attempting to retake our nation.

    September 15, 2009 at 11:13 am |
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    September 15, 2009 at 11:25 am |
  19. James of Houston

    Wow! President Obama just said on CNN in his address to the ALF/CIO he will pay for his $900 billion health care plan by eliminating waste, fraud and abuse in the Medicare System!

    My question is, if there is really this much waste in the system, what didn't we clean it up in 2001 when we made the decision to send out troops to Iraq and Afghanistan? If his comments are indeed true, we could have used these cost savings to have paid for the war!

    September 15, 2009 at 2:00 pm |
  20. Kathleen Thornton

    No offense to S. Carolina-but geez, what are they drinking? Probably iced tea. These 'tea parties' are the silliest demonstrations that mean absolutely nothing. If these party goers want to do something to help our country, this is not the way. Stay informed on the issues & not from just one source. It's disheartening to see so many people being led around by the nose by those who are still angry about the President's attempts to do his job & keep his promises. I have faith in President Obama. He's doing more for this country than any of your tea parties. Oh, by the way, I was taught in school that the Boston Tea Party was caused by England's decision to tax the tea and we were still a colony of the British Empire. A tea party? Please. Can we have watercress sandwiches, too?

    September 16, 2009 at 12:01 am |
  21. SteveG

    Well that said enough right there Jim Demint of "South Carolina", somethings in the water there, Stanford, Wilson...

    If the republicans were serious about the need for health care reform, which (R) M. McConnell and (R) L. Alexander is SO very much needed and over due on the "floor" this morning but they are "concerned" with the out of control cost, why have they done NOTHING but block any reform since "they" lynched Ms Hillary, 16 years ago, except passed a bill they DID NOT PAY FOR and made it illegal to negotiate for medicare (largest purchaser of drugs in the world) for lower prices.

    They're BIG ticket item is tort reform, and everyone who has looked into that fallacy knows that is not going to change anything. 38 states have caps already, is the other 14 states going to change anything? Malpractice premiums went down in those states but not the insured policy premiums.

    To Jim in Houston: Newt Gingrich, said on Greta V S, show a few nites ago that there is twice ($90-100B) the amount that Obama said in waste and fraud that could be cleaned up and applied, that, over 10 years would pay for the ENTIRE program.

    Isn't it also assuring to hear a politician say you know when congress says it's going to cost something, it will cost more... geez bubba since your part of that congress what does that say about you.

    If republicans have the answers why have they done nothing before now, if they know how to save the economy, why is it in the shape it is since they had the control of it lately

    September 16, 2009 at 11:28 am |
  22. Ronald Keeney

    The Tea Parties would be great, if they were driven by the truth. Free speech and a free press are sacred to our democracy. Public opinion is one expression of free speech. Unfortunately, when public opinion is driven by lies coming from those who stand to profit from maintaining the status quo, the democratic process is violated. I well remember how the USSR (among others) controlled public opinion through published and broadcast lies. It is an anti-democratic, moral disgrace that today's influencers of public opinion against healthcare reform have resorted to lies, distortions and omissions to win their supporters. Why don't they tell us that the taxpayer is already paying for healthcare for that sector for whom a public option would apply, anyway? Could it be that they don't want to give up that part of their bottom lines that are subsidized by our tax dollars?

    September 16, 2009 at 12:05 pm |
  23. mike

    It amazes me how analogies get mindlessly tossed into the conversation in an attempt to help justify the cause. So, in regard to the government’s demand that ‘everyone’ must have health care, they are using the analogy of, ‘It is like auto insurance. If you drive a car you have to have auto insurance”. Does that mean they are really saying if you choose to live, you will have to have Health Care coverage?

    I don’t know what concerns me the most…the fact that I am loosing my democratic right to choose if I want Health Care, or that I am having to entrust in a leadership who thinks the “auto insurance’ analogy is a sensible one American’s would agree with and give up their right of choice.

    Mike in Kirkland

    September 16, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  24. Randy N

    You people at CNN should ask the American people ( which you are part of ) What they would put into a healthcare plan. Why should we allow crooks and theives to do it? I mean seriously if We are going to be paying for it We should have a voice in it's making.

    September 16, 2009 at 1:11 pm |
  25. Mrs. Eileen G. Curras widow to Hernandez (WWII)

    The message from the author identified as mike but signed the message as Mike in Kirkland amazes me. He complains or argues that the use of get mindlessly tossed into the conversation in an attempt to help justify the cause in regard to the government’s demand that ‘everyone’ must have health care and he argues that they are using the analogy of, ‘It is like “an” auto insurance.

    If you drive a car you have to have auto insurance”. Does that mean that the twist is that the government is really saying if you choose to live, you will have to have Health Care coverage?

    Well after being left out of the system. It is exactly what it means. The previous government administration excused it by defending the free enterprise and his message was that you will be left out because he never said anything to the Health Insurances for using this infamous label of a “Prior existence condition.”

    I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis (MS) in February 2000 after my husband died in 1998. I had my child in 1993 and in the end being a widow to a World War II Veteran and having a young child at the time 6 years old and being left out from the Health Care System it was not a religious experience.

    I had to make a quick decision to move back to Puerto Rico where MS is considered a “catastrophic condition.” At the time I just wanted to know how was my health situation but the health care system in the United States in one of my biggest exacerbation decided to send me out of the hospital at 2:00 am on a private ambulance to my home at the time. There was no medication indicated or doctor’s appointments or a follow up doctor appointment.

    I was simply left out like a garbage bag and the meaning to respect to my rights as a patient were never handled. I had to that myself with a recent exacerbation of MS. I had to make my decision for my sake and for my child. I just wanted answers as any other patient will do with a medical condition but the Health System in the United States at Miami, Florida just left me out of the picture because I was diagnosed with MS. Now I was expendable.

    My right to choice was taken away from me. My rights as a patient were taken away from me. The Congress cannot entrust the Current System which is corrupted and the System has to be revised to protect consumers with Chronic Conditions. The system cannot continue to be left out. Consumers and Americans should pursue the Health Care in America. They cannot subject themselves only to please the free enterprise.
    It seems to me that the Free Enterprise has being allowed to get out with Murder and something has to be done to keep a watchful eye over the so call system. The system is not perfect and we cannot create such a monster to do things like this without being reprehended.

    I would like for Mike to understand that we humans are not indestructible. We have to push for the leadership to create the laws that will protect the less fortunate. If we combine this situation with denying Vocational Rehabilitation to Persons with Disabilities it will be the worst nightmare.

    The right of choice was taken away from me ever since those adjectives of “whiners” and the constant use of the expression “less keep safe the free enterprise.” The free enterprise is composed of 500 companies or Strong Financial Institutions in America.

    They do not care for the patients with Chronic Conditions. I do not have any choice but to entrust leaderships in the government and the nonprofit organizations to protect me. The “auto insurance’ analogy in a way worries me because the poor cannot afford to pay everything and I hope that the leadership will be sensible enough to American’s who are less fortunate financially.

    I hope I will have the choice to protect my health so I in turn, can protect my child to become a responsible adult that will not break her back for the so call free enterprise. I hope that the fortunate will not become an instrument to the so call free enterprise and we all can get the Health Care Reform that we need.

    September 16, 2009 at 3:09 pm |