The demand for answers continues as world climate-change leaders gather in Copenhagen for a summit on climate change.
The University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit, known as CRU is now at the center of what’s known as "Climate-gate".
More than one-thousand emails seized by hackers reveal researchers’ private discussions on global warming that have led to allegations that scientists “cooked the books” on global warming.
We want to know has the release of these emails changed your views on global warming?
Post your comments here and Heidi will read some responses during CNN Newsroom from 9am to 11am ET.
I can't imagine any email that could negate the obvious fact that the polar ice and glaciers around the world are melting away. This is one of those actions speak louder than words subjects.
I'd like CNN to follow the money and see who paid for the theft of the Global Warming emails ouf of East Anglia. I would bet that this search would lead directly to the oil industry.
I think that skecptics will find any reason to deny climate change. The fact remains that since the industrial revolution where we started emmiting CO2 the earth has been warming faster. We need to take responsibilty for our earth for the sake of our children!
Just proves the point that there has been a conspiracy to dupe the populace on man-caused climate change. Where is the data showing the earth has NOT warmed in the last 10 years? No one wants to talk about that.
Just the fact that the name has changed from global warming to climate change shows that insiders to climate research know their data does not prove warming. There is no debate, the data is fraudulent and science has a black eye. Not a trick, it is lies.
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Anyone who looks at the content of the e-mails will realize that, with the exception of some bad judgement regarding FOIA, there is nothing there that undermines the climate science that these folks have devoted their lives to. Please do not trivialize this issue based on a quick look at personal communications out of context.
Climate change is upon us and must be addressed.
The whole global warming movement has been discredited. I am saddened by my side's unwillingness to be transparent and own up to what the data show. I am also saddened by the secrecy of my fellow environmental bretheren.
Climate change. The biggest hoax against society started by left wing looney's and bought by this administration which looks to extract billions from the American people with bogus green job initiatives. People like Al Gore have exploited millions with this baloney. Good job Al.
Good Morning Heidi:
I have listened to all the reports on this supposed climate "trick or truth" and quite frankly the whole matter discusts me. What has happened to peoples thought process. Can you not see that it is simply a bad choice of words to describe a process used to explain results. What is the matter with people now-a-days. There is no trick here and this whole matter is a waste of time and money. Must be a slow news day to be covering this to the extent you are.
Even a cursury review of the CRU emails reveals a troubling pattern of manipulation of climate data to make global cooling look like global warming. Al Gore should return his nobel peace prize, and all of the scientists in these emails who conspired together to foist this fraud on the world should be arrested and tried in the world court for crimes against humanity!!! Swift aggressive prosecution of these global criminals may help to restore the integrity of science.
Info suggesting climate change isn't a critical problem should be marginalized by these scientists. In fact, it is those scientists that allege global warming is a natural cycle that are "cooking the books".
This story has been out for a while, what took the media so long in reporting the story? Changes in climate and environment has been on going since the beginning of time, it is not something that man can control. Global warming/climate change is a money-making hoax!
Climate change? Its been going on for millions of years. This is a hoax on humanity to extract billions for phony green initiatives.
It hasn't changed my view, but it casts doubt on a lot of the research. It not only involves the work of these scientists but work of others whose conclusions are based on using any data from this institute.
Whether climate change is man made or not, the different regulations and technologies it will provoke will allow us to not only less dependent on oil but also to breathe dome cleaner air... Which at the end could even reduce health care costs for having less asthmatic children....
How can anyone with a brain still say there is no global warming? So what...someone lied......again. That does not change the facts. It doesn't matter if global warming was caused by mankind....it's happening! So let's stop trying to find someone to blame and start doing something about it while we still can.
Americans are no longer fooled by the propaganda of global warming. We know they have been liars all along even before the insiders released the emails to expose the corruption. Global warming is an excuse to usher in a Global governance which most Americans will fight against and do fight against. Why do you continue to call it hacked emails? They were not hacked! They were exposed for the corruption by honest people that dont want a treaty that signs away my BILL OF RIGHTS TO A EUROPEAN POWER. We will fight as Americans should any form of tyranny! Their is no left and right only power hungry elite. We are sick and tired of it all.
This is called swift-boating. In paying close attention to the news on CNN this morning, I heard an English scientist refer to the seemingly deliberate mis-interpretation of the word "trick," well, remember what it means in England to "knock someone up"? The same kind of differing word usage has been built into a swift-boat here. I bet some scientists e-mailed about being careful of statements that could be misinterpreted, and they were right to worry about it.
You might want to investigate and see what dirty energy outburst came in time to let Greenland be settled for farmland. Must have been warmer then you think than it is now? I remember Time and other headlines with the coming Ice Age Scare.
I think people should be able to make their own opinion. Watch "The 11th Hour" a documentary where scientists discuss global warming. Be informed.
Al Gore is exposed! It is a lie! Follow the money! Only a sheep would follow a fool like Al Gore! Global warming is a HOAX!
It's only common sense that we've been affecting this earth with our wastefulness. So what if it's not totally true? God forbid that Corporate America should be held accountable for their glutonous actionsl Lets be smart and take loving care of this planet for all our children to come.
With the present heat wave ravaging the United states today and people rushing to the store to get sun block I would put into question the need for the scientist to aquire climate grants for there research just exactly how much money's have been pledged for this study to each climate organization to date and what are the bennefits to power companys for this so called event . when you guys go out side today and fry an egg on the side walk ask your self if you should fry that egg or throw it at Al Gore.
The science may be unclear, the earth is a vast and complex system and difficult to model. But the planet cannot absorb an infinite amount of our waste. The risk is too great to simply adopt a politically-driven opinion and carry on status quo. We must objectively entertain that some aspects of our lives may need to change, and those changes may not be comfortable, to avoid serious, irreversable consequences for the future.
How can we be expected to turn he world upside down and accept the increased costs of reversing climate change when we can't trust the science behind climate change claims?
Your statement about 'stolen' emails disturbs me because the emails were hacked. But 'stolen' sounds dishonest and lessens the criminal content of the actual emails.
Even discussing supressing unwanted data is digusting! In fact, the only thing more disgusting is Al Gore's personal energy footprint!
Trust me, my energy usage is insignificant compared to the rest of these clowns.
I'm a bit of a fence sitter on climate warming but given the scale of Government corruption and scandals, I take the email leak seriously as a possible cover-up. Based on what I know today I would say climate warming is a hoax especially with the likes of Al Gore pushing it in my face. The middle class will pay again!
Scientific research always has disagreement among investigators. They do not work in lock-step, with 100% agreement. Still, the vast majority of climate change researchers do agree it is real, much of it is man-made, and we are very close to some tipping point from which we may not be able to recover. Doing nothing and ignoring the problem is the riskiest option of all. Climate-gate is a diversion from the real problem.
please do a better job of framing this debate. It is NOT global warming, it is global climate change. The debate really isn't over whether it is happening, it is and always has, but what level of influence humans have on climate change. Simply, is climate change happening whether we are here or not? Would global climate change in the same way if humans were not around? Seems a silly argument in that perspective because of course 6 billion humans and all that comes with us will have an effect on climate. How global, how long lasting and how reversible are points for debate.
Shouldn't we be looking at how we deal with whatever climate change comes along? If sea levels are rising, because of us or not, shouldn't we deal with it? As droughts result and flooding occurs, shouldn't we deal with it?
As for scientists skewing the data, of course some are. They're human and some humans do bad things. Some journalists bias their reporting. Some corporate CEO's lie about quarterly results. Because some scientists skew data does not mean all do, does not mean the real data are erroneous, does not mean that climate chjange is not inevitable and real.
As a doctor I can tell you their is no health crisis other than the MEDI-CARE PONCY SCAM!
Man made global warming is a propoganda hoax! Many historical evidences of cooling and warming cycles. Just one, the Vikings settled Greenland, raised crops and livestock during a warming peroid. Solar cycles determine the cycles on the planets in our solar system. Big question is the genesis of the propoganda, the WHY and WHO?
Global Warming may or may not exist. If it does, it is more likely due to the methane excreted by the 4 billion human population increase since 1960's and the animals that feed them, than CO2. Methane is 20X more photoreactive than CO2. CO2 has only increased by ~50 ppm
If I drove a 'Hummer', lived in several large houses, and flew around in private jets at whim, then I'd certainly be against climate change as being caused by my personal bad habits. Otherwise, I'd take some person responsibility and help my fellow humans to save the planet for future generations. Go Hybrid!!
The East Anglia emails have not altered my global warming views. I maintain heathy skepticism for both extremes in this debate too often cast as an either/or choice. Despite the extremes, there is plenty of validity to setting goals and seriously pursuing energy efficiencies, the conservation of finite fossil fuels and encouragement of less carbon generating alternates.
As long as you folks continue to "censor" the patriotic voices of freedom, the truth will never be known. Global warming is nothing but a "worldwide hoax" imposed on all of us by Fat Albert Gore, and the sociologists, and social engineers posing as scientists, and hiding undercover in the mathmaticity of science. People in Oklahoma, for example, are worried about another "Ice Storm", not the global warming hoax. Like the Balloon Dad, they will be "exposed". If you want to know about global warming why don't you invite Dr. Bill Wattenberg, former Lawrence Livermore Lab scientist, former U.C. Berkeley nuclear engineer, and professor, and KGO 810AM talk show host to comment on this issue, he is a real scientist, not a sociologist.. Stop this fraud! wolfgangpitbullingtonIII!
In my mind this doesn't disprove global warming, but it disproves the predictions that global warming will be catastrophic.
I've always been leery of the proxies that tried to show there wasn't any climate variability before the 20th century, but I was surprised to see the leading scientists not being just overly pessimistic, but intentionally misleading about them. They *knew* the proxies weren't valid – that's what "hide the decline" was about.
Now that I know they purposely lied about this peripheral matter, I have to put much less trust into their 20th century temperature records too. I can no longer credit that the models have the right sensitivities and are accurately predicting the effects 90 years from now.
I have been a long time beliver that the latest group of Environmentalist have not been telling the whole truth with respect to the environment (in a bid to help their own cause). However I have been an even longer believer that we need to protect the environment. In my belief if you create a branch of science whose whole purpose is to prove their own existence and their jobs and bonus' are based on only looking at one side of the research you are sure to find ONLY what you are looking for. I believe the president should have put a scientist who is not a environmentalist in charge of EPA and given them the task of sorting out all the BS (from both sides) and only finding the truth... this way we can solve the problem without spending a bunch of money.
for example... the polar ice caps have melted and reformed a hundred times throughout the history of the earth, long before humans even came into existence (so how can humans be the only cause for ice caps melting???)
Global warming is a fact. If it wasn't for "Global Warming" the world would still be covered in ice from the last "Ice Age". The earth has gone through many periods of "Ice Ages" and global warming, so to speak, in the past 4 billion years and the cycle WILL continue regardless of what we do or don't do. 15,000 years ago, the northern half of the USA was covered in an ice sheet over a mile thick. Due to "global Warming" the ice has melted and will continue to do so until the NEXT "Ice Age" cycle begins.
I never cease to be amazed by how people can ignore such a simple FACT.
I believe global warming is a fraudulent business.Follow the money.It is hundreds of billions,research scientist only get funding by being believers,thats a conflict.Those e-mails admit to cooling the past ten years,they don;t understand it.The media loves it.It gets our attention.Governments want it to allow tax increases hiding behind cap and trade.This is a raquette of historical proportions.A transfer of wealth and power to the beneficiaries.
This whole "controversy" is much ado about nothing. Anyone who takes the time to find out what the researchers are actually talking about in these messages will see that there is no attempt to hide the "truth." These emails are about mundane stuff like trying to make data less confusing to a layperson. They do discuss some inappropriately nasty tactics for dealing with skeptics, but that's more a case of fighting fire with fire. The climate change deniers have been distorting the facts for ages despite the mountains of sound scientific research that shows humans are changing the climate.
The recent outing of the erroneously factored climate change data from the UK scientist proves all fo teh so-called climate change hullabaluu is a hoax. Sure th gloge's temperatures fluctuate and regularly cycle as proved by our history. The emails prove that politically and economially driven scientist manipulated data and changed historical data to fit their goofy agenda.
Now that the fix is out, citizens of the globe can save nore of their money as governments will be forced to stop any addtl cap n trasde taxation and spending along these foolish lines and simply admit that fossil fuels are just fine and dandy.
As one true American stated several months ago, remove the limitations on drilling in America and help put Americans back to work, or more succinctly "drill baby drill" along California, Texas and up in Alsaska.
It's time we cared more about our citiznes and less about filling the pockets of the greedy Democrats!
Your coverage of the purloined emails from the University of East Anglia is neither fair nor balanced. A crucial piece of information for understanding the context of this story is never even mentioned. That is the fact that the work done at East Anglia is only a fraction of the story; An avalanche of data confirming that climate change is man-made has been repeatedly confirmed in thousands of studies by the most respected scientists around the world, in the largest, longest, most comprehensive study of any subject ever conducted in the history of science. The fact that a few scientists question the findings is virtually insignificant.
Here's a question for you. If just prior boarding a plane, you learned that 98% of the world's aviation experts concluded that there was a 90% chance the plane would crash, would you get on that plane with your whole family, secure in the knowledge that the findings were not unanimous, or would you take the precaution of changing your travel plans?
heidi, last september i wason top of the Zugspitze, Germany's highest mountain at 3950 m. i used to lve in that area 40 years ago. What i found was just a small remnant of the once mighty Glacier that filled the whole plateau and allowed year round skiing.I wish i couldsent you a picture but this webtv does not allow it.
The glaciers all over the alpine areas are melting and it won't be too long before people there are loosing their hydroelectric power.If people would pay attention and informed themselves of what is going on around the world they would pa no attention to the politicians and start their own small way program to improve the situation.Besides the increased incidence of respiratory problems speaks for itself.
I am 80 now, and i won't be around on "payday", but i worry about my kids and grandkids.
The "bottomline" will not help them out then, and there will be a bigger price to pay.
Earth will survive, mankind will pay the price.
love your show Heidi, keep up the good work and report impartially.
Now that the whole global warming phenomenom is a hoax, we can stop this ludicrous fixation on the lies of ice caps melting and us getting warmer and give the population more money in the form of less regulation and taxes. Boy wouldn't that be a jobs lifting step!
Anyone can easily see that the globe is getting colder over the last 2 decades NOT warmer. Everyone flying to Copenhagen should now turn around and stay home as this cause is now known as the lie that the majority of mankind knew it was all along!
Global warming is more a political issue than a proven scientific fact.
There are credible scientists on both sides of the issue who either
support or deny man-made influences. Unfortunately, scientists are people and
many have their own political predispositions which color their views.
There is a lot of money at stake here so I'm not surprised that some
people would use dishonest means to make their case. The hacked emails
tend to reenforce my skepticism on the subject.
For you even to title your report "Trick or Truth" is morally insupportable, since global climate change is accepted as fact by the vast majority of scientific organizations around the WORLD.
It is of course unacceptable and unfortunate that a couple of scientists altered some data contradicting climate change theory.
But the facts remains: Over 60 Nobel Laureates are calling for immediate action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and hopefully reverse global warming; the National Academy of Science and the American Association for the Advancement of Science - the nation's top scientific advisory bodies - and their counterparts in dozens of other nations, including The European Academy of Sciences and Arts and the European Science Foundation - ALL agree that climate change is a real phenomenon, caused by human action; specifically, the introduction of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
To suddenly call into question the scientific fact of climate change, and to presume its reality is undermined by this bizarre incident using stolen emails, puts the whole debate back years. Irresponsible journalism, I say. Well, I mean "journalism."
I can just see your next investigative piece: "It Looks Flat From Where I Stand: The Flat Earth Society Demands Proof That the Earth Is Round."
It's scary to accept as real something so terrifying as global climate change. It's easier to deny its existence. But we must be smarter than that - if not for ourselves, then for our children and their children. Climate change IS the truth. How we deal with it is the trick.
The climate contraversy makes as much since as a 3 million dollar over the shoulder boulder holder.
Common sense, Heidi. Common sense. There is more trick than truth in climate change. Anytime there is an opportunity to make money, opportunists will jump on board, tweak the truth to make a buck. There is more money to be made in scaring people into climate change, than there is in leaving it alone. Common sense. Where is the buck to be made????
I havent met a soul that believes in global warming!! Al Gore is a Global Warming billionaire. Talk about follow the money! The only people who believe it are the reporters spewing the bs propaganda! No intelligent person would buy into this false religious cult!
Come on Heidi,
The top scientists are DUMPING their data, trying to cover up cooling through e-mails and now NASA won't turn over their data.
Scientists DO NOT DO THIS, unless they are covering up something, which means they are not real scientists.
This aint hard to figure out. Global warming is fraud. Let's see if the media can back up from a story they have been pitching for 20 years.
Whether Mother Nature is warming the plant or the 6.5 billion people are warming the plant – the point is the plant is warming. As we argue who did what, I suggest anyone within 10 feet sea level of the ocean should move. I am over 50 and do not consider this my problem but anyone under 30 has a very real problem and should probably get right on it.
Why are we just hearing about this now from this network? Heidi Collins showed a graphic this morning showing that this hacked information was posted on the Internet on Nov. 17.
Surely the climate change deniers can't be taken seriously. It is simply astonishing tthat these people get a platform. The so-called email 'scandal' is no scandal at all, and does not diminish in any way the fact that ckimate change is being affected by human activity. What are these people afraid of? It should be seen as no small coincidence that the majority of deniers emanates from the fear and greed right wing of politics, regardless of country of origin. The industrialists simply have better funded lobbyists.
I'm sure global warming is a fact – after all the average temperatures are rising. The questions are to what degree humans are responsible and what we can do about it. I worry that because the debate has become more about politics than science, we may not get to the truth and therefore act in time.
PS It is kind of funny your video accompanying the report showed non-greenhouse gas producing nuclear cooling tower steam. Ha-ha.
climate change is real but the effects of man made global warming is being called into question. Now that the emails have been exposed global warming scientists as manipulating data to get desired results and showing just how politics meshes with scientific data. More hype of a problem gives the scientists more money. It shows that despite what Al Gore likes to say the science is not settled.
Funny I just turned on CNN after saying to a few people that Nasa says no worries there is no chance of Planetary Alignment which could cause abnormal weather and more take a look at southern california and Texas snow . Am I the only one who is wondering what is going on?
I'm just struggling to understand what motivations scientists have to "cook the books" on climate change. What do they have to gain from proving that climate change is happening? Do we honestly think that all climate scientists around the world are just trying to scare us? Scare us into what? A clean environment? Let's suppose that climate change isn't man made, is that justification for continued pollution of the environment? I think business and industry have much more to lose from all this than the scientists, hense why this is such a big debate.
Man-Made Global Climate Change is not a settled science!!!!
I definitely believe that the "scientists" cooked the books AND that what most people refer to as main-stream media even mislead their viewers with a slant. For example, as I watched the CNN report that prompted this comment, I noticed that ALL of the film clips used in the background while commentary proceeded was of STEAM being emitted from stacks – not pollution. Kind of makes you think about what TV is telling you, doesn't it?
Climate change is real. It's time we stop treating this issue as if we have a choice. The planet is not interested in our quibbling over the causes of climate change. We need to focus on mitigating the consequences regardless of the cause.
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You mean to ask if the stolen emails – taken completely out of context- changed my mind about this? in a word NO.
And for anyone who doubts that emissions from cars- factories- power plants – etc.- are bad for the planet ( and by extension us)- should have no problem having these gases pumped directly into their homes and prove with "simple science" just how wrong the environmentalist and scientist really are.
Then the rest of us can clean up the planet.
My thoughts on the Environmental Issue in general is that most of it is fabricated. But, I also believe that we should be pushing towards alternative sources for energy. I don't believe it should be mandated but minimally funded to find ways to make dependence on alternative sources of energy more cost effective. Secondly, where hard facts concerning efficiency with current technology is conducive to peoples economic situations, improvements should also be promoted.
Consequently, I have been suspicious or the current standings of global warming(conveniently changed to 'climate change'). I have watched Al Gores movie which almost had me convinced. The economic incentive cannot be overlooked. I sincerely believe some companies have staked their mere existence on the belief that most everyone will believe they can solely turn the current condition around.
I don't see where all the confusion on this issue comes from,either the facts support the climate change issue/data or they don't,why the need to hide anything? Unless there is something to hide?
Who cares if "Climate-gate" was originally set up by a select few scientists or not. It's very real, esspecially with the amount of pollution we are putting out these days. We need to address these issues ASAP.
If several rogue journalists collaborate to fake a story about Michael Jackson, does that discredit all the other reporters and reports?
The efforts of the East Anglian fakers should not lure the popular press to cast a huge shadow from such a small source.
I can head the 'delete' keys being hit now by scientists around the world!
Remember, these e-mails are only a small light into the world of the Climate Change hoax.
The US government has used what little creditability they have with the American people. We are skeptic of anything being proposed by our government. We look for the 'dark angle' of using this to raise taxes and add to the corruption that is running rampant in this administration.
If global warming is man made then the government should ban all beans. put soda caps on all volcanos . and take away Al Gores private jet.
As a student who studies climatology, and Increase in numbers does not decrease the fact that climate change is real and anthropogenic. If the Allegations aganist Mr. Mann and others are real then penalties for academic integrity should be carried out. But this does not discredit the work facts that thousand of other scientist have put into not only the IPCC but also the academic realm to help gain understanding and protect our planet. Climate-gate is not a joke or a game as the very lively-hood of many are at risk. I still having seen Greenland and been to other arctic places know first hand that our Glaciers and sea ice are melting and that this is caused by temperature increases.
The point should be made that many of the so called "facts" about global warming are not entirely true. When Gore realeased his movie I was very upset because one day people would realize that much of his facts were incorrect or did not point to the truth... people would then say that because this is incorrect that there must not be global warming. We are affecting the earth but we must not link everything that is happening to man-made effects.
It doesn't take a scientist to realize that weather patterns are changing, it only takes someone over the age of say, fifty. No, the release of the emails hasn't changed my views. We used to have four seasons in the south. Now, there only seems to be two seasons that change back and forth more frequently. It's either summer, or winter. If the scientists can fix it, by all means let them do it.
What little I have seen of the email involves conrolling discussion at a presentation, not good but does not affect the underlying data. This is one research center out of many. The Republican response reminds me of the seventies when they opposed requirements for cleaner, more fuel efficient cars so that Detroit would not have to retool its factories. The result was that our foreign competitors gained a major competetive advantage. The Republican response in the current case is about suppressing science, not supporting it.
Shouldn't the people that are so worried about the effects of global warming be the first ones to be excited that the data may be suspect? Instead all I seem to hear from them is that global warming must be happening, no matter how suspect the science is.
This is so typical of american media; instead of applauding the world on meeting at a peaceful and cooperative summit they are being overshadowed by the mistakes of a few.
Thousands of independent researchers have found evidence in support of climate change. It is a mistake not too take action on the subject. Green jobs and renewable energies are the future.
There needs to be an investigation of the emails and their meaning, but condemning all climate scientists based on the mistakes of a few is shortsighted and foolish.
Just as in *EVERY* walk of life, there are some idiots and dishonest people in the scientific community. That should not be allowed to overshadow the plethora of evidence pointing to global warming.
I sincerely hope that we can come to a real agreement in Copenhagen that will severely cut emissions in the next 10 yrs and thereafter. We are at a critical point that will determine the outcome of our species on this planet.
To all the nay-sayers: you all are morons. Why fight so hard to resist change that is good for our planet and our people in every way you look at it. EVEN if global warming is "fake" anything we would do to reduce carbon emissions- using renewable energy, etc- would only be good for humankind and enhance the quality of our lives.
This is ridiculous. I would never believe anything that does not have scientific facts. I have just recently opened my mind to the serious issues that will effect future generations.What are people believe going to believe? Isolated emails or science? This is a political issue not a facts issue becasue politicains answer to a higher power. Our country could benefit greatly from this, but people who are benefiting from the oil and coal we rely on today are stunting the growth. People need to stop this disregard towards the earth because it is the youngest of us who will have to face the worst of this. People are even bagging on the name change from global warming to climate change. The first name was accurate but was changed for those who were not familiar with the natural processes of our earth and who do not realize that warming does not just mean it will get hotter, but storms will get bigger, stronger, and everything will become more extreme.
I doesn't seem a stretch to me to condemn the majority of scientists and researchers that back the notion of man-made global warming. Political leaders have set the tone for promoting this idea and it's these political leaders that provide the funding for most of these researchers. Money is clouding the judgment of science.
Regardless of the scientific evidence or lack there of concerning global warming, we need to be stewards of the planet we share. After trying to be a considerate occupant of my environment for years, I am glad to see it is now politcally correct to be "green". I believe we should act in prudence and protect our planet but in a logical and common-sense method that all can agree on and live with.
I think it is thoroughly irresponsible for you to run this story as "Trick or Truth". This only reflects on the scientists at one university and does not change the results of scientific study for decades by scientists around the world. Your responsiblity as reporters is to look at the facts of the story and put it in perspective for your audience not just to report what different parties positions are on the story without comment. Putting forth that this throws the world concept of global warming into question is untrue and irresponsible. Remember your role is to provide information not increase ratings.
Did you notice that the climate change spin doctors aren't addressing the damaging content of the emails but rather whining about the theft itself and reinforcing their unsubstantiated anthropogenic global warming claims? Only in the mind of a statist can a 9 year global cooling trend be considered global warming. Wake up folks. The emperor has no clothes!
What reason would scientists have to "cook the books" with this? Science isn't the enemy, the right-wing is LOL. I'll be the first to say that I don't know if the proposed idea of global warming is real or not, but even if it is, what's the big deal? The Earth has been around for billions of years and it's bound to be around for many more unless we go into total nuclear war. I'm not saying caring about the planet is bad, but we would probably be taking better care of it just from leaving it alone.
It is more like Global Cooling... The summers are shorter and winters longer... Same thing with the ocean temperature. Ask any surfer for the truth... It is cold as ice out there! L.Y.H.
What always stands out to me (no matter which side exagerates) is the smell and choke I experience when an exhaust pipe of a neighboring car is too close to my window, the dying coral reefs I see when I dive, and the greed that nearly everyone around displays. Humans are a virus to this planet and we will be fortunate if an extra large meteor hits earth before we slowly devour it with our greed.
It is ridiculous to assume scientists have anything to gain from manufacturing climate change. What we have here is a few e-mails vs the findings of scientists around the world. Absolutely ludicrous!! It seems to me that these e-mails appears quite coincidentally close to this global summit and someone needs to ask questions about the timing and consider that there are lots of unscrupulous corporate entities who might just benefit from a lack of progress in this summit.
I think it is far more damning to look at who jumped on board on these e-mails as some sort of definitive proof of anything. Then ask if these people have all our interests in mind or if they hold their own pockets in higher regard.
You don't have to be a scientist to see that polluting our planet is dangerous to our health and the long term health of the human race. You need only look at china and India to see that humans CAN change their environment for the worse.
Debate has been closed down on this issue for years. Real science doesn't work that way. Dissent in science is used to take a body of work and transform it into a reasonable theory.
Dr. Mann of the famous hockey stick used in Al Gores movie is one of the scientists at the heart of this controversy. That one experimental result, in which all of the other cliimate science has been built off of is fundamental in determining if AGW is true. We should be worried that that same office, the CRU, that houses those scientists is the source of this controversy.
We need to determine what is really happening before spending all the money that is planned. I would hope that a neutral body would be assembled to see what is real and what is not. The IPCC is too political. Science and politics don't mix and they shouldn't.
Global Climate Change is a farse and a big lie for Democrat interests only. Wake up, America! It was much worse in the 1970's as far as I am concerned. Tom Cardiff by the Sea, CA
I feel tricked. Someone is pulling the wool over JQPublic's eyes and are concealing bigger things than the notion that global warming is a fake. Scientists have a responsibility to be transparent and present simple facts, not skewed data, especially when it comes to presenting those facts to the media, public and government. And it is everyone's responsibility to leave that information unfiltered, especially if it affects future generations.
There is climate change. In the 50s, in early September before school started, Atlanta had the World's Fair at Lakewood, Ga. fair grounds. A bunch of us always went. And it was ALways cold – could blow smoke in the chilly air. We always wore sweaters or jackets. A little later, the ground would begin to freeze and walking to school, the icy earth would crunch as we walked. Today, it is different. September is still hot. I feel that people have to push for better automobile MPG, and stop ships from trashing our seas. Stop plastic bags or anything plastic going into landfills or seas and stop those bags from being developed. Stop the destruction of the rain forests. And stop the devastating unnecessary wars brought on by the armchair warriors who profit in weaponry, while our young soldiers are dying like flies and those we bomb are simply dismissed as "collateral damage." The hatred being created will last a long time. Obama needs to practice what he preached campaigning – bring the troops home and work on America's problems for a change!
The person that believes the things we do in this world, does not affect the climate.....can be best friends with the person, who throws his or her gagbage into the lake , and believes it's ok....There is no such thing as magic in this world....everthing we do affects the conditions of the world..
Kenneth E. Hilliard
Global Warming is a ponsi-scheme to rake in billions upon billions from normal people for breathing and living. Are we as humans that conceded that we think we have the power to change God's Green Earth. Oil was put here by God not science.
In Politics it is "Follow the Money." In Climate Science it is "Follow the Data." Global temperature records are not added up, then divided by the number of sources. There is complex manipulation of the data. Data is culled to eliminate "irregularities." So you can imagine what could be done to data by scientists who would like to limit mans' footprint on the worlds output of pollutants. Why doesn't CNN do their own investigation of the data? Where is the data coming from? What equipment was used? When was the equipment calibrated? If climate warming is so important why don't you list day-by-day the earths temperature? If not by todays data, but by last years data. Why don't you? I guarantee you can't find the data... because it takes years to massage & manipulate it..that's why!!!
It is a travesty that the so-called "science" of climate change is still being discussed. Personally, I nor my family believes in this elaborate hoax and I hope that Obama has his scientists debate climate change skeptics publicly
I never have believed in global warming, I have read that man is only responsible for approximately 5% of greenhouse gases. Why is it that Liberals usually believe and Conservatives usually don't.
Now that finally world is trying to stop this climate change before it is too late some special interest groups looking after their materialist profits again making a wave. Ask skeptics to bring out SCIENTIFIC PROOF that the climate change is not man made and is caused by the other factors and prove to the whole world and scientific community that greenhouse gases are not the cause. If they can prove that, then they win!
It is funny to read some of the blogging going on here. There are so many people that do not understand the IPCC, how CRU fits into it, how many scientists acutally peer review the IPCC work, how the process works. You'd be shocked if you knew. I suggest you do some independent research.
Clue: you are being scammed.
Good morning Heidi: There will always be disagreements between these two types of people...those who walk up to a forest and see $$ and those who walk up to a forest with wonder and see a complicated, nurturing environment for many species as well as oxygen produced for the planet. The first group of course will resist any slow down of human "progress" and insist on the necessity of continuing to advance the artificial human state called the "economy"
Which type of thinking will your grandchildren admire and thank?
Even if you believe that global warming is all a bunch of hype, what harm would it do to slow down, think, and treat the planet with the respect that it deserves and ensure that it will support many generations of all species?
Please note that you are putting a show on called Climate Change:Trick or Truth? You, CNN, are the ones being tricked. Look around and you will see that there are real, actually important stories about climate change which is in full swing despite your attempt to distract the public into thinking there is some kind of doubt about this science. Please focus on the real news: the terrifying road our world is moving toward. How can you sleep at night knowing that by continuing to plant a seed of doubt, which leads to inaction by those that want to listen to you, that you are helping to seal the inevitability that our species, and millions of others, will go extinct? This is the truth.
Why are we still questioning the reality of global warming? We are about to enter a new decade, but instead of encouraging each other to move quickly forward to find solutions, we're running around in circles, chasing a question we already know the answer to. Time runs out–global warming doesn't have a pause button. Let's be smart about the next decade, and focus on what really matters.
Heidi so far this poll falls towards the trick side .
The email controversy regarding global warming has only increased my concern about what I believe is a very real problem that we must act more decisively about ASAP!
I think it is a disgrace for people who have doctoral degrees from the most prestigious universities to disregard the laws of physics by connecting the atmosphere temperature with the CO2 content.
It is not about if the atmosphere is heating or not. It is about the FACT that CO2 content has very, very little to do with this phenomenon. Any physicist would tell you that diferent gases absorb and reflect a portion from the energy in the sunlight corresponding to a very narrow band of frequencies. The problem is that on the CO2 frequency it is a very low energy content in the sunlight and CO2 reflects almost all of it. Water, nitrogen and oxygen are the gases heating the atmosphere. Therefore the content of CO2, i.e. the human activity, have almost no influence on the atmosphere heating or cooling.
Don't beleive me? Ask please any scientist who has no political involvement in this hoax.
John Bucur, Florida
Even if some of what the so-called "Dr. Darrin Larremore" states were to be credible, how does that negate the efforts to relieve Americans from the economic, security and political burden of buying all our energy from out-of-country?
No Heidi I still believe that global warming is very real and we should all be concerned and the Obama administration should stand up and tackle this issue.
Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)
As a physicist I have looked deeply into the data supplied by both sides of this controversy. Proof comes only from evidence. This as been the way science and mankind have progressed from the beginning. The evidence supplied by the proponents of the global warming due to humans is not adequate. Proponents of the natural causes of Global warming have evidence upon evidence that mankind is causing little to non of our current climate change. This evidence is based on actual collected evidence and not computer models or projections. I believe time will show the truth which today evident to anyone who takes the time to look past the propaganda behind man made global warming. Keep in mind that the much trusted IPPC is a polital body with political motives. In my opinion their political goal is quite clear. To tax carbon worldwide, erode the sovereignty of independent nations thus increasing the power of The United Nations.
I'm 67 years old, I've seen weather warming and changing all these years.I'm not a scientist I didn't even finish high school. But before you say what humans are doing in relation to the environment. Has not had any effect on it. I can tell you it has changed dramatically.maybe that's normal but i think cars factories planes etc. are polluting the air.And the weather has gone completely crazy. Now that's a time observation by a unqualified person. Maybe it may mean something,I'm old and maybe young folks don't listen to older folks
Why are we still questioning the reality of global warming? We are about to enter a new decade, and instead of moving quickly forward to find solutions, we're running around in circles, chasing a question we already know the answer to. Time runs out– global warming doesn't have a pause button. We need to be smart in the next decade, and focus on what really matters.
John Roberts interviewed the acting head of climate studies at E. Anglia U this a.m., who told him that the rise in world temperature over the last 50 years is unquestionably due to human factors. If the rise in temp had started 50 years ago he'd probably be right. However, the world temperature rise started 150 years ago. What accounted for the rise in the first 50 years before there was an auto industry, coal-fired electricity production, a plastics industry or industrial-scale feed lots? Also, what is coincident with 150 years ago? First, it was the end of the Little Ice Age (i.e. coldest temperatures in world history) and, second, it was the start of meteorlogical record keeping.
Google the Oregon Center for Science and Medicine and find their petition on global warming. 31,000 scientists (inc. 9,100 PhDs) have signed on to the position stating that the rise in world temps is the result of astronomical factors, not human influence and that the world was a much hotter place in the old days than it is now. Contact Sallie Baliunas at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. She did her own analysis of the data from sample borings from glaciers and swamps around the world and arrived at the same conclusion.
Google Lord Christopher Monckton and Henrik Svensmark, both notable climatolgists who present a strong scientific case for the fact that world temps have actually been GOING DOWN since 2000. Odd, wasn't that the data that the East Anglians were trying to fudge or bury? Didn't Carol Browner at EPA "inadvertently" delete (which is illegal) hundreds of environmental documents after she took office? Aren't there dozens of scientists who complain that their papers and article can't get published or presented because they present an alternative to the staus quo? See a pattern?
Now the Chinese, Indians and Ecuadorians want the U.S. to pay them to go green as our penance for altering world climate. Obama thinks they are right. We owe them. True, but only if the temperature increase is man made. If the event is astronomic or if temps are falling there's no reason for the U.S. taxpayer to get fleeced. One would hope that Svensmark, at least, would get a hearing in Copenhagen. He lives there and can be brought to committee for bus fare. I'd like to think that before we throw trillions at the solution to a problem that we would hear from all points of view.
Another thing, stop referring to contrarians as people who "disagree" with or "deny" global warming. Everyone knows the world got hotter from 1850 to 2000, but there is scientific disagreement on the cause. Now there's a new possibility; maybe the warming has stopped and a cooling trend is underway.
Please stop using phrases like "the e-mails cast doubt on global warming" or how can the conference go with "some of the evidence, or all of the evidence – the original evidence – from years and years ago from this panel isn't around to support that man is responsible for global warming". THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS STORY IS ABOUT!! Please go back and research the original story before making any more irresponsible comments. There is ONE word in ONE e-mail out of thousands that is driving this whole story. Why don't you cover what was said in some of the other stolen e-mails? I think it is amazing that Republicans, who hold scientists in such low esteem are suddenly taking the word of a few scientists – English scientists, no less (non-American) – as gospel.
There has been no empirical research put forth to show how man has accelerated global warming.
The argument against Global warming and it's causes are compelling because we like to believe in a well rounded consensous in which scientific fact and a majority of people agree on what it is,how it got that way and what we are going to do about it. We tried to do away with phosfates for years because it polluted our waters. It is back in a popular dishwasher detergent today. Believers and Disbelievers in Global warming may come from different camps. Who cares where they come from. Ney sayers may be more frustrated then belivers in GW because photos don't necessarily lie and the facts have them cornered. . Good people care about this gift of life. Yeah what a concept! We are all under the same bubble of air. My parents generation of World War Two really didn't have a grip on these kinds of problems. They were too busy bolstering happiness after what they had been through to think otherwise. After all, a devil may care only after we have completed the distruction of this natural beautiful planet and exausted all it's resources in the name of?. Who's the biggest oil company? Rush's "Big Money" tells it all. It's not like we do not individually know enough to make an educated guess. Our teachers are you too.
Whether Climate Change is real or not, we can still produce energy in a more efficient clean way. We need to stop being lazy and make real changes in our lives that don't harm the planet or us!
Copenhagen Climate Summit , there are 275 limo's, 125 private jet's... guess how many limo's are environmentaly friendly.....FIVE...yeah these people are really on the ball...pathetic !
I don't need science to know about global warming. I've lived in Connecticut most of my life and in the past 10 years I'm able to play golf right to New Year's Day – no frost in the ground and the grass still has some green to it. 30 years ago it would snow around mid-November.....
It does not take much to figure it out-our climate is dying-although our world tries to regenerate the damage-i beleive the damage is beyond repair.
I think we're better safe than sorry. If the climate isn't warming up too fast, we should still keep doing our part to protect the earth from global warming. Making change is simple but it will only work if we're working together to make it happen.
This whole controversy is nonsense made worse by the media's need "entertain" with the news. The word "trick" is a commonly used word in mathematics referring to a method of doing something, having NO implication of impropriety. The statistics being used here are well know techniques used in medicine, economics and many other sciences.
Global warming is real. Global cooling is real too when it occurs in time. Watch out for the sun. Just keeps doing it's thing. Humans... we're just small potatoes.
The hacked emails do not change the fact that scientists all over the world agree that we have a climate change crisis. Our indiscriminate polluting of our environment has surely contributed to that crisis.
If climate change is a hoax, then let them prove it scientificly that it is a hoax, IF THEY CAN!
BY THE WAY, any sort of media manipulating the data or emails to prove only one side of the story should be held accountable.
The whole issue boils down to this, will we feel good knowing in the end that ours was the civilization that destroyed the world if the scientists are right. There is good data that support the science.
The controversy is not whether global warming exists….it does. The real issue is that the news media gives the same weight to a misrepresented email as to the mounds and mounds of scientific evidence that supports the existence of global warming. Political controversy is more valuable to the media than the survival of nature as we know it now.
I think that people watch the news to become well-informed on pressing issues through an 'unbiased' media. I think it is unfortunate that precious news cast time is spent reading opinions of random viewers and ignorant opinions. My goodness! At least screen the things!...maybe aim for new perspectives and valid viewpoints...
This is just more proof that these people are just changing the data, to get money for their own gain. All at the general publics expense.
Look, a scientific research group conducting experiments in northern Greenland studied ice bores tracking the last 400,000 years. It showed that the earth is typically gripped by an ice age, but every 85,000 years or so we have a dramatic rise in CO2 and the earth quickly heats up. We stay in that global warming for about 25,000 years and then plummet just as quickly into another ice age. We are 15,000 years into that warming cycle. In the next 6,000 years we will start getting colder and colder. There will be nothing we can do to prevent us from entering another ice age, just as there is nothing we can do now to stem the current global warming cycle. Um, buy land in Arizona now while it's still reasonably priced. Mexico never looked so good.
I'm not concerned with global warming. I know that God and his angels control nature and these so called natural accidents are usually because those areas have accepted crimes or laws against others as part of their government or culture; especially against children, believers (the particular religion does not matter, but victims have been often Christians and Buddhists), and the homeless/hungry.
The real danger of pollutants in the air and food is that it causes most of the incurable diseases that exist in the USA.
I don't know why we even have to debate the topic? Regardless of Global Warming, we should stop polluting and reduce our energy consumption. With just over 300 million people we use over 25% of the world's oil and cause over 30% of the world's pollution.
The benefits to becoming a cleaner, energy efficient nation outweights the benefits of the status quo. Imagine what is going to happen when China (1.3 billion) and India (1.1 billion) become just like us.
My opinion hasn't been changed one iota. All you have to do is ask the people in the world living in areas that depend on getting their water from
the disappearing glaciers if they think climate change is a hoax.
Real scientists are screaming from the rooftops–the question is NOT whether or not we've had global warming (the facts are, we've had 4 periods of global warming and cooling this century, 25 warming periods since 1500 AD, huge warming and cooling 15,000 to 10,000 years ago, and most of the past 10,000 yrs have been warmer than now, all before CO2 could possibly have been involved)–the question is whether or not the warming is caused by CO2. JUST BECAUSE THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING DOES NOT PROVE THAT IT IS CAUSED BY INCREASED CO2!!!!
The atmosphere contains only 0.038% CO2 and has risen only 0.008% since CO2 began to increase significantly. CO2 makes up only 3.6% of the greenhouse effect and is only capable of causing less than 0.1 degree of warming. These are scientific facts!
Dr. Don Easterbrook
Professor of Geology
Some indisputable facts:
>Enormous amounts of ice worldwide have melted.
>Tropical plants, animals, and diseases are moving to areas in which they have never been able to survive before.
>Sea levels are rising.
Do the skeptics think these things are happening because global temperatures are remaining constant?
Respnse to Young and Wise:
God did put oil here, but hid it from us miles deep in the earth.
Maybe with good reason.
It's a trick. Just another example of the government telling lies to help make their supporters and friends rich. The healthcare bill bringing down cost is another. Please.
Because many Americans are in “Denial” regarding global warming, I thought it best to retrieve this information from outside the US, specifically from areas that are actually experiencing the problem.
Nepal is warning the world the impact of global warming on the Himalayas. Scientists say the Himalayan glaciers are melting at an alarming rate due to global warming Nepal's Prime Minister, Madhav Kuma, met with more than 20 high officials near the Everest Base Camp and passed the Everest Declaration
The impact of climate change is most noticeable throughout South East Asia, specifically Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand. Rising sea levels are now their biggest threat. There is already evidence of noticeable sea level changes in these three countries and the capitol cities Jakarta, Manila and Bangkok will be submerged within five decades
Just because it is not affecting you is no reason to create dogmatic conjecture surrounding denial. Maybe you need to move to Bangkok and see first hand the ocean crouching on the city and you!
It's funny, when all these talking head folks go on and on about global warming, even changing the name of it, I'm often sitting here yelling at the tv for those people to GO OUTSIDE! The last two summers alone were cool and now it's freezing! Use your own eyes and senses! The same people who hate and dispute everything coming out of government and big business and bureaucracies embrace this nonsense. You pick and choose who and what you believe, all I say is GO OUTSIDE and find out for yourself!! THINK, this is a scam to get your money, plain and simple, and you often wonder why there are so many suckers in this country. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY!
I think the planet is going to go through changes no matter what we do. What I'm concerned about is that as a jogger oxygen is very important to our health and that carbon dioxide is a poisonous gas. Oxygen also improves our health and thinking ability. What we are doing to our air is bad no matter if it's causing clement change or not.
I don't give much credibility to the claims of people who put forward cherry picked selections from stolen emails to support their assertions. Let them defend their claims in peer reviewed papers.
You do understand that the topic under discussion in some of these emails was how to convert a thousand years or so of northern hemisphere tree ring data into temperature information which is consistent with other information where other information exists and is useful where other information does not exist.
They did this is plain sight in peer reviewed papers. I'm sure they would be happy to provide any information people would request on their methods and calculations.
The fact that private emails were stolen does not make them anything other than stolen information.
The media really needs to start requiring some standards on the integrity and competence for commentors on scientific matters.
People can easily understand that the comments of Bozo the Clown about nuclear weapons technology will probably not be helpful. The same is true about global warming.
We can't worry about Earth.
It's been here before us and will be here after.
Our concern should be limited to the continuation of humanity, and we are skating on increasingly thin ice (unintended pun.)
Dear Heidi,I have lived in Arizona for twenty five years. Here we see the result of less rainfall more than in other places. One of our local newspapers,The Daily Star reported on December 4th in the article about "Wet's a good bet" , front page that Arizona has recieved less than half of it's annual rainfall for the period of June-through-September 2009. A 60 year record was broken. We have not since then recieved that small an amount of rain. I have seen it here where for as long as eighteen months it has not rained. As a new retired military member I have the opportunity to spend part of my year in the farming country of upper north west New York. I still have a house here. Global warming has adverse affects in that dominant weather patterns have long lasted their use. Here in Arizona we are more than " way dry ", and places like up-state NY are drownding in water. Corn, pumkins and other crops in NY suffered greatly this season. I have seen the growth of fungis ( like miseltoe ) here in our desert trees. It may be a directly tied link to the lack of water. It is killing the desert trees like the Mesquite. Prickly Pear are in terrible shape. They look to be 85 percent dead. In northern Arizona and many other western states our beautiful pines are infected with Bark Beatles. My own estimation could be as high as 15 percent of our forests are dead or almost dead. I have heard it is because of a lack of water in which the tree makes it's sap. In order to get a broader opinion of global warming we must consider every ecosystem and how it is doing. This is a kind of tribulation in which we are all intimately engaged. Ney sayers be warmed. A higher power than ourselves is a lot more involved than we are for sure. If weather patterns are not now adverse than what we were all taught to believe in school was in fact a diversionary tactic that leaves us no choice but to say Naw! That's a dad burned lying face dog. Yep!
Please keep in mind that Climate Change is the reasoning behind the global evolution away from fossil fuel use. Is it better for the US economy to keep spending $700 billion a year on foreign oil imports from the Middle East, Africa & South America than on homegrown clean energy investments? After the initial start up costs are amortized, wind, hydro and solar make electricity from a free and renewable resource! Fossil fuels will NEVER accomplish that for our economy. We should all conspire toward this climate change reality!
But let’s go down the climate change hoax rabbit hole. I am really at a loss for what the down side of a clean energy revolution could be. Even if the vast majority of scientists have somehow gotten it wrong, isn’t the move from fossil fuels the right thing to do and quickly? Do we have to wait for the polar caps to completely melt before taking action? The gains for the US environment, national security, job creation, and economic sustainability far outweigh the status quo. These gains are diminishing every year the US does not involve itself in a movement that the majority of the world is already undertaking.
I am a child of the 70's where we were engrained that there was
"global cooling". Of course, global warming is a hoax just as
global cooling was. It' called Mother Nature. Al Gore just wants your money and mine. The last laugh is on him though, we're not as stupid as he thinks we are. Most Americans do NOT believe in global warming.
Global climate warming is not denied by the revelation that the climate actually dropped in the recent years. In order to speak about climate, you need to look at a 30 years span, otherwise you only speak about the temperature.
In my opinion, to affirm that it is caused mainly by humans or CO2 is not true; it is caused mainly by the sun and it is the warming that is creating the CO2.
According to real datas collected by french scientist Dr Courtillot, the global warming caused by the sun will start declining in about 3 years (the infamous 2012) for the next several thousand years.
On the other hand, pollution must be addressed and companies that do not comply with tough environmental regulations should have really punishing fines.
Heres a good point to look at when using up fossile fuel if the earth heats up from a meteor strike or other such unknown desaster's there wont be any oil left to fuel the flame .
Unfortunately, Al Gore, the UN, and the Obama administration have not used bad science to make a decision on global warming, they have used deliberately distorted science that helps them attempt to achieve their one-world government goals and bring down the sovereignty of the USA. "Climategate" hasn't changed my mind one iota......it just confirms what we've thought was going on, a huge lie. While there may be some warming from time to time, we are in a long term cooling trend, and none of it is the result of man's activities. Any world climate agreement that tries to shut down production in the USA and institute any type of cap and tax scheme should be summarily rejected. Our freedom is at stake!
Global warming, climate change, CO2 emissions. All convenient ways to moderate the blatant truth. Let's call a spade a spade!
The accurate term is Pollution! Pollution caused by the Industrial Revolution has resulted in a homeostatic imbalance in our atmosphere.
It's so sad its almost amusing to listen to both the scientific communities and political establishment jockey for semantic neutrality.
Let's stand up to all and resurrect the ugly word we once used and not "pollute" the dialogue!
my names travis and this global wariming and climate change is all a trick and a hoax and a bunch of fraud and the hacked emails that came out about global warming and climate change and the earths cooling are real so obama and gordon brown lied to the american people and they don,t tell the truth about global warming and climate change instead they like to make things up and impeach obama and barbara boxer impeach her to and john kerry and joe biden and all them liers and green house gase emmisions isn,t hurting the publics health either thats also a big fat lie there using that as scare tactics and on global warming and climate change there using scare tactics and brain washing the american people to brain wash them and the enviromentalists are also making big lies up about global warming and climate change there just trying to run our lives and there telling us how to live the true fact and thats the truth american people so don,t get brain washed by global warming hoax fraud and tricks there trying to pull on us stand up and fight the global warming and climate change fraud hoax and is all a bunch of lies and crap
Do you by chance live in a bomb shelter? Just curious because you're world view seems extremely paranoia, and I would like to know what deliberately distorted science you are talking about? Because as far as I have seen there have been email with unconfirmed results, not to say that what was discussed was not telling, but there is no evidence that anything dishonest was done.
Pull your head out of the sand, the world is going through a climatic change, areas are warming, and cooling, but the consensus is, and has been for quite sometime (unless you're locked behind a steel door), that CO2 and humans have been affecting the climate.
Your post isn't even worth responding too...
First thing i am indian/american,,I watched your show today..There was a lady who was concerned about china and india not possibly cooperating in climate change.. I want her to listen this damn news..According to Vinod Khosla CEO of Sun Microsystem "it takes 16000 lb of water to generate 1lb of beef" I want to ask you in billion people of india how many are eating beef, infact cow is sacred in india...There are almost 500 million people in india live below a income of $ 2 per day.. So why should an american care about he/she is living intense heat during hot wheather and cold during winter because he/she damn cannot afford in those $2....So what he/she should do...Is America dont like other's progress...Hinduism is the most peaceful religion on the planet..hindus never attacked on other countries.."Despite of 26/11 in Mumbai"..so my question is do you still want more than 500 million still to live below $2.00 per day..if so why because they also have a right to live moderately good..
So why so propagandist.....
The real issue is not whether global warming and climate change is factual or bunk science, but rather whether we as humans should be responsibly feeding our thirst for energy with logical renewable and clean energy sources. Consider if you will each unit of affluence in countries like China and India consuming resources with the same ferocity we do as Americans, and all the energy required to meet that demand. Realistically ask yourself whether it's sustainable without renewable and clean energy sources? Additionally, every problem we face as humans whether it be social, environmental, economical...........stem from the indisputable fact there are too many people in the world. Until we humans can adequately address overpopulation, and view bringing productive life into this world as a personal moral responsibility requiring dedication, nurture, and love, we are only spinning our wheels placing temporary band aids on all the ills we face in this world.
It's disturbing and totally unjustified that your headline reads truth or trick. It is not the scientific community that is casting doubt, it is CNN with your misinformation and lack of investigative reporting. Forget the overwhelming body of scientific evidence that show us exactly how we are impacting the environment, and never mind the fact that if we are wrong about climate change that we need a clean and healthy environment anyway, go ahead and run a ridiculous headline like "truth or trick" over a few emails from the less than 1% of sceptical scientists in the world. CNN is pathetic and makes me sick. Why don't you show the american public how much money corporations (mostly big oil) have paid polititions (democrats and republicans, there is not much difference) to vote against environmental legislation. Bottom line, money beats science, and CNN gets paid by big oil not scientists
It’s like cigarette smoking. Do we really need a label to tell us sucking smoke into our lungs over decades might cause health problems? Can’t people intuitively reason that spewing billions of tons of poisonous gas and chemicals into our environment might just harm it also? We’re supposed to be the most intelligent species on the planet. Other than bacteria, is there any other species that lives in its own waste like us?
The heating and cooling of this planet is a natural occurance. If my memory serves me right the last Ice Age that occured was not the fault of humans, but a natural course that this earth went through. So regardless of what we do, we can only do our best to contain what happens, not stop it. It is true that we must help keep this planet sustianable so future generations of species can thrive off living here but to make it a profit and implementing fear into the community is not the way to do things. In my opinion I do not think money should be even involved in trying to save this planet. Everytime a major issue arises someone has to make a profit off it, so if this whole thing is a hoax I will be my life that money was the main motivator for such an action.
I live in the high desert area of antelope valley in Palmdale California. We have cactus and other desert plants. We have sandy soil and clay soil.
Once every 3 to 4 years we may experience one day of snow for 3 hours then it melt by noon.
Yet for some unknown reason we experience a stir in our climate.
In December 2008 we had snow which fell for three days and lasted for five days.
After that we had snow in January 2009. It snowed into the night and lasted for 3 days.
After that we had snow in February 2009 which was gone in 1 day.
And after that we had ran, then hail, then snow which was gone almost as soon as it stopped.
I know people in my age group (55+) who all have said that this experience was unusal and they never had this happen before.
It may not be proof of climate change, But according to these people who never experienced snow when they were young, it is proof that something is changing.
The realease of the emails written by leading scientists has confirmed what is obvious – that global warming is a hoax.
Peer scientists on the opposing side have been locked out of the debate proving that Democrats are not democratic when it comes to pushing their agenda.
It was not concensus that determined that the earth was not flat. Measurements can be manipulated for only so long.
The media has obviously picked sides and continues to hide the truth.
There can be tons of figures for or against the idea of global warming, but pictures say not just a thousand words, but millions. Just show the pictures around the world of all the glaciers disappearing, ie melting away, and compare them to pictures that were taken 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and 20 years ago. National Geographis has done this. HERE is the proof! And all the Conservative talk show hosts can say what they want to say, but pictures are proof, that they are wrong again.
I think we need to look at what we see happening climactically. There may be problems with a group of research, but is the area of the permafrost turning to muck or or not in the warm months across those latitudes and across how much of an expanse? Is the northern ice cap not covering more and more of the arctic ocean? What are the ocean temperatures doing all around the world? What view comes of looking at the hard evidence? The overall evidence and research. How do the emails fit in with and impact overall studies? That's my view Heidi.
There is some global warming but to say it is all caused by humans is balogna ! I have been seeing a lot of scientists are talking about this planet being bombarded by causes from outer space. Things that we have no control over. Lets consider all possibilities before we place all the blame on man . Also this deal of being able to buy credits from other companies that don't use all their credits is foolish. At that rate we are still holding the polution at the same line not eliminating it. That tells me that companies with lobbies will continue at the same rate and the taxpayer will shoulder the brunt of the costs as usual. Who is trying to fool who ?
No change in my view that AGW is real and accelerating. The reference to Climategate is interesting. Seems to me that in Watergate the people who illegally entered the DNC and removed documents went to prison and a president resigned as a result. None of these emails out of context mean anything.
Judy, I have some questions too about companies trading credits back and forth and that is a good point that you bring up, how does it impact pollution. It doesn't seem like a bad idea to me to knock some of that CO2 out of the atmosphere. With economies around the world surging, carbon sequestration, drilling thousands of feet beneath the surface and injecting captured emissions into layers under solid rock would serve to clean up the air and keep global temperatures from dangerously fluctuating. As for heavenly objects contacting the earth, I think NASA is closely tracking those that could possibly come into the earth's orbit.
If there isn't an issue with the data used to study AWG why has the head of the CRU (Phil Jones) stepped down and Michael Mann of Penn State University being investigated?
Interview the relevant climate scientists. and interview those who wrote up the copenhagen diagnosis that brings us up to date on all the research since the last ipcc.
you can then demonstrate to all the misinformed people out there that climate gate has nothing to do with secrecy or deceit or trickery.
"Trick" refers to a short cut statistical method.
there was no suppression of contradictory evidence demonstrated in the emails. no one suppressed the 2003 baliunis piece; some scientists thought it should not have passed peer review.
Misleading emails or not, there's no debate that we're in danger.
Is there any other kind?!
Nothing is more dangerous than taking global warming lightly. Our population has been growing rapidly and we're just now starting to consider the environment that we must live in. Even if the recent numbers were wrong, there's 30+ years of research that proves we're literally killing mother nature and ourselves. If we don't take responsibility for our actions right now and in a big way, even our rich and powerful "leaders" will perish.
The truth about this "global warming" scam is the misunderstanding of our own reality.
We are transients in this world, we are not in control of anything
The whole planet is a big volcano.
One super volcano can emit more CO2 than all the industrial complexes in the world + cars.
That could happens at any given time
There is a lot of selfishness in pretending that man has created the conditions for global warming since we are a parasitic organic to the planet anyway.
Every time we breath we exhale CO2 what does it say?
A poll asking American people if they believe in human induced climate change is like asking if they believe in Santa Claus. The media is not properly distinguishing between opinion and scientific fact. Dig deeper, CNN, expose who is behind designing stories to protect the Carbon Asset Bubble from bursting.
Regarding the climate conference in Denmark and the controversy over global warming ~ It seems like a no-brainer to me that the world needs to come together to save our natural resources for the benefit of all, with or without global warming. The world population continues to grow and those resources are needed now and in the future. The trick is to unite to expand upon those resources with expediency and environmental competency
Big Oil and the Energy Company's are certainly the ones cooking the books on stating Global Warming is a myth. They point to a few country's which are undergoing to brief cooling trend as their proof. However data from over 1,000 temperature sensors worldwide show without any doubt that Globally the Earth is in fact in a warming cycle.
CO2 levels are at the highest levels in the past 800,000 years and rising.
The first decade of this century is "by far" the warmest since instrumental records began, say the UK Met Office and World Meteorological Organization.
Their analysis also shows that 2009 will almost certainly be the fifth warmest in the 160-year record. The warming period precisely matches CO2 levels which have risen since 1910.
Nasa states that a new global all time temperature record will be set "in the next one or two years".
Again, some land masses are experiencing a brief cooling trend, while a majority of others are certainly in a warming trend. The Big Oil company's are pointing to the few land masses undergoing a brief cooling trend as their evidence that climate warming is a falsehood.
To debunk Big Oil's claim that Global Warming is a myth, the Met Office is releasing data from more than 1,000 weather stations that make up the global land surface temperature records.
The WMO uses three temperature sets – one from the UK Met Office and the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU), and two from the US, maintained by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) and the space agency Nasa.
Comparing historical weather station data on such a large number of global surface temperature collectors shows without any doubt that the Earth is in fact undergoing a warming trend with possible dire circumstances to the residents of many country's.
Global warming. That explains why our temp here in the northwest is -15 degrees. Thats fifteen degrees below zero. I guess we can attribute that to global warming, right?
A out of context interpretation of the word "trick" does not disprove global warming.
Does anyone remember the "Global Cooling" craze of the 1960's and 70's. Scientists told us that were heading for the next ice age by the year 2010. The Earth goes through periods of heating and cooling, that is a scientific fact. Increases and decreases occur.
Is this a trick question? :}
The debate is not about climate change! The debate is over human's influence on the climate change. Please make that clear...
Have a great day
Dani, Sac. Ca
Check out the extreme ice survey. It is a project that captures crumbling glaciers with time lapse photography. Anthropogenic climate change is most certainly taking place, but think about this: Even if the whole thing was a hoax, shouldn't we still be thinking in terms of sustainability and taking care of our environments?
AGAIN, all you folks shrilling global warming and telling me that the polar caps are melting, tell me please, when were you there to see this? You weren't? Who's word did you take on this? Well, again I say USE YOUR OWN EYES AND SENSES! GO OUTSIDE AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES. It's freezing! The last two summers were NOT hot! It was beautiful and cool and perfect. Wow, half of our American population really are suckers. No wonder there are so many scams to get your money! Pete Reeves
Millions of new "green jobs"? Let's get serious! If its jobs in a manufacturing plant, that'll last until China can do it cheaper and those jobs are gone again. For jobs, how about slapping a monster tax or tariff on the goods made by companies based in the US that moved the jobs overseas in the first place (Talk about unAmerican... But noone cares as long as its cheaper ). Incentivise the moving back by offering 0 tax for 5 years on the manufacturing plants that move back. The jobs made would be people not on unemployment and actually making tax revenue. But politicians insist we can't be too forceful with China because they own us? If we defaulted on our loans to China their economy would sink faster than ours!
CNN claiming all day yesterday that 2000 to 2009 is the warmest decade on record. Will you show any corrections since that was based on and "error" in the data report?CNN and others didn't even bother to check the data that was released from the the UK MET.If they had they would have immediately discovered the January column for each year shows period information instead of temperature records and the latitude appears transposed as well. It appears that they incorrectly shifted the column headers when compling the dump.Data provided by the Guardian UK. I have read for years that temperatures were cooler and even the e mails said this was a problem but had to laugh when Anderson who presents "both sides" couldn't be bothered with this info.
The numbers in the e mails have nothing to do with the real fact that the ice and snow is melting!! Come on people open your eyes!
The problem with the climate change theory is that those who are participating in this 'hoax' have self-declared themselves to be peers and experts. By eliminating those who dissent, the proponents have created the perception that a 'majority' of peer scientists endorse the climate change theory.
Heretofore, findings have not been fact-checked by an impartial panel. If a peer scientist objected to data, he or she was blacklisted or trivialized. If the data didn't fit, it was either buried or manipulated. Lord Monckton has indicated that recent legislation will allow findings and data to be settled in court where hard evidence will have to undergo actually scrutiny.
Anyone can call themselves a scientist. We have computer scientists, political scientists, medical scientists, rocket scientists, and forensic scientists, to name just a few.
What Al Gore relies on are political hacks MASQUERADING as lab coat scientists.
What scientific evidence is there that the Earth will again reach a cooling period?
The human population is swiftly doubling into a very large and growing population meaning even more CO2 released into the atmosphere. Nay Sayers are predicting what, 3/4 of the human population disappears and 50 years later?
The sudden rise in CO2 levels shows no plateau and excessive CO2 levels do not disappear overnight, even with great intervention which is entirely impossible for humanity on earth to implement themselves.
Global Warming, is a fact.
Global Climate Change is a fact also, all of that extra water vapor is going to cause greater snowfalls, rainfalls and soil erosion. All of the fresh water being released from the massive glacier melts is placing enormous amounts of additional fresh water into the worlds oceans and atmosphere. Desertification in the Gobi and Sahara greatly influence wind and weather conditions locally and globally.
The Worlds Oceans are close to Carbon saturation, and many of the worlds forests are gone, those that remain are thinned and highly stressed by drought and numerous diseases. These in the past have mediated levels of atmospheric CO2, now they are largely minimal in that function.
Those ancient forests are gone period. Strip malls and miles of asphalt are not going to be removed and planted with trees that would likely die from drought and the high stress of a large number of diseases which are swiftly killing off many of the trees that are remaining.
I live in one of the largest remaining forested regions in the entire American States and fully realize they are under intense stress by the lack of adequate snow-packs, rampant diseases and intense summer heat.
My theory or 'guess' is that many additional areas on the earth are receiving much higher levels of UV solar radiation than before and for some reason, NASA and other Governmental agency's are not forthcoming on that information.
Increased UV is very hard on plants and trees, as well as causing a great deal of skin cancer on humans that are continually exposed to it. Sure, humans have been continually informed as to the Ozone Hole in Australia and the large amounts of UV radiation pouring into Australia, however Frogs all over the world have largely died out.
Frog egg clusters are highly sensitive to UV radiation. IF large increases of UV radiation only occurred during a couple peak months in Australia, Frogs far from Australia would not be effected.
Being flooded by UV radiation might be the missing puzzle piece which is needed by researchers looking at the widening area of destruction using only infra-red radiation (thermal heat) readings.
Not one iota! Follahthe Dollah folks – who serves to gain more by debunking the learned scientist, whoe's gain might be a few sheckles grant for research or the Corporate Fascist controlling the government -that save billions if they can continue spewing filth into the environment!
I'm not a climate scientist but I am a medical doctor who evaluates clinical medical research every day. Much to my wife's chagrin, I have spent six months of exhaustive(!) research on Global Warming science. What's strange is that these leaked e-mails are no surprise to me and other global warming researchers. We have known about collusion, hiding of data, and bold-faced lying from the Global Warming establishment for quite some time. It finally took "Climate-Gate" to get the press to finally take us seriously. "Groupthink" is more powerful than ANYONE realizes.
For most skeptics such as myself, the question is not "is the world warming?" , but "are humans to blame?" The fact that polar icecaps are melting does NOTHING to prove that humans are the cause of it. So please, to all of you who think us skeptics stupid because you "have personally seen glaciers melting", remember, we're not arguing that they aren't.
We are asking to get worked up over emails we have not even read! Shame on you!
The exposure of the CLIMATEGATE emails doesn't change the temperatures on the ground, but it does demonstrate that a very influencial group of climate researchers have closed their minds to the exploration of science, and are determined that their own pre-concived conclusions will prevail. That doesn't make them bad people, but especially in scientific matters; "beware the man who knows the truth, and respect he who searches for the truth."
To all of you who refuse to beleive (Mostly Republicans – go figure because it costs money to fix) how about the fact that our air is full of junk and causing millions of deaths and we can't see very far thanks to the smog. SO why not clear the air of us PEOPLE. That means doing away with gas engines and cleaning coal burning. Oh yea side affect is IF you wrong this will fix that problem too. But if you don't want to breath clean air or see then good luck because your betting your kid's and grand kids life on it. JUST IN CASE YOUR WRONG I SAY FIX IT.
Tell congrees we cant afford there science fiction bills.
Trick is too nice of a word for climate change. A trick connotes a mischievous prank. What is going now is a conspiracy to defraud the average American. Green is good because alternative energy supplies eases the burden on our failing resources. However, the technology does not exist yet for wind, solar, and electric vehicles to be practicle let alone reliable. At this point, total freedom from fossile fuels is a pipe dream. Where the money comes in is the trading of carbon credits and the higher cost for energy. Those who will be hurt most are the middle and lower income classes. The reality is that global temperature quit rising in 1998. Further, the whole notion of "man-made global warming" was not based on scientific principle. The research was based on "there is global warming, we think it's due to CO2, now, how do we prove it?" True scientific methodology ask the questions: "Is there global warming and if there is, what is causing it?" Climate is dynamic. It's always changing, so there is always climate change. The question is "Whether or not it is a part of of a natural cycle. One degree rise or fall of global temperatures is not scientifically significant. Even if it were, there are many factors that need to taken into account, i.e., changes in topography, seismic or vulcanic activity, the weakening of the Earth's magnetic field, and greenhouse gases, including methane, CO2, and water vapor. Each is heavier than air, so each would tend to sink, especially in colder temperatures and during high pressure systems. Accordingly, it would have to be determined if greenhouse gases exist at the proper attitude needed to simulate a greenhouse. The last ice age lasted around 400 years and ended approximately 200 years ago. Put your bet on another ice age occurring before the next melt-down.
For me, Climate change is real and is happening. But, it's not going to happen overnight , next week, next year. Nature takes time, and we will see minute changes in our lifetime. Were already seeing interesting weather.
The earth is in constant reposition due to many variables. The magnetic poles have changed twice since its existance.All this is hype by humans who promote themselves and views by preying on the insecure.Or our government is trying to limit how much flourocarbons the penguins are using?
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