You take off your shoes to go through security, pour your liquids into tiny containers, make complicated arrangements to meet your ride since they can’t meet you at the gate or sit in the car in front of the airport. After Friday’s incident, security measures could get even tougher.
Our question: how safe do you feel when you fly these days?
Post your comments here. Heidi will read some of them on the air during the 10am ET hour of Newsroom.
The odds of an adverse incident affecting my flight is still much more remote than that of something happening while I'm driving a car. Given that, I feel very safe flying, but don't like to do so because of the extreme annoyance factor.
Heidi for days CNN and other networks have covered the NWA bomber story and to date not a mention about using Voice Stress Analysis. Check out what El Al uses in Israel, the US needs to profile. We should allow the TSA to deny the effectiveness of this program.
I used to fly all the time, now we actually drive instead. It's not as quick but we feel it's safer.
I don't feel safe at all. I fly, almost, weekly. The very thought that some are able to get past security with liguid and powder bombing materials is discouraging.
The thing to notice with these latest terrorist attempts are they they happened on international flights coming into america. So changing the security screening processes in the US, will not solve these problems. Country Governments and the Airlines need to establish better security screening measures at the international terminals.
I am a college student leaving for Spain in a few days. Flying has never frightened me, but all the news about the recent attack attempt has definitely made me think twice. Although I am a bit nervous, how can I look negatively on such an exciting experience? I trust airport security to do their job and know I will have a safe flight to and from my trip.
I travel a lot for work, and used to feel much safer. Something is not working if the events of Christmas Day can still happen. I would suggest the TSA step up its efforts and expectations of security in other countries, including using specially trained dogs to check the passengers after technology does what it can.
I feel perfectly safe, but deeply frustrated with all these delays. Will look into other means of transportation. Enough already.
Hi Heidi, Safe, I have always felt security is sporadic in our airports. I retired a year ago and the best part was not needing to travel. I never
really felt safe. I always felts security was just in motion. Not intentionally, but several times I carried through security amounts of liquid in my cosmetics that were never checked. I was not comfortable after listening to Janet yesterday when Candy interviewed her. I felt she just did not get it.
They go after the 90 year old couple to the point of embarrassment.. I had to help them put their shoes back on and they were in tears.. Then they let the obvious person breeze right through. It is as though they count so many people and when they hit the right number that is the person who gets nailed and it is obvious. I have been in the aviation business for fifty years now and this is ridiculous how they work
increasingly unsafe and the new security measures being implemented are not yielding the kind of results that we had hoped. There needs to be a comprehensive analysis of all the measures to see where there are breaks and get them fixed before a major disaster occurs.
Last night, my relatives that live up on the canadian border of New Hampshire called me and asked if I had ever travelled by train and if so, how was the experience.
They have decided that they would rather not fly down to visit Florida this winter.
I dont feel so safe because you think that could happen anywhere not just where it happened.
I fly often. Today two of my children are flying by themselves (11 & 9) today from Detroit to Florida. I fly Wednesday to Shangahai China from Detroit. I just flew home last week for the holidays. I feel very safe. I go through all the security, I know what it is like. Problems are like lightning, very rare compared to the number of people who fly. If it wasn't for the media, I would have even less concerns.
I fly 150,000 miles per year and feel completely safe. I think the government's recent security "enhancements" are an over-reaction and just plain stupid.
As a college student living very far away from home, I use air travel frequently.I really do feel quite safe. Air travel has the most security of any means of travel. There is so much more security compared to taking a train or bus and for that reason, I do feel safe flying.
college student in Boston Mass.
I have never felt safe flying; I just bite the bullet so to speak when I have to fly. After this most recent episode in the air....I will drive rather than fly. Also after seeing Janet Nipollyanna last night and again this morning.......I think she should be replaced with Nancy Grace.
Safer than ever. Shoe bombers, hijackers, underwear bombers... we no longer sit in fear, we take you down.
In the real world, Napolitano would be toast.
Yes, I feel safe when I fly. You can die in a car accident or in your house. The airplane is more secure.
We spend billions to stop these types of acts. They had this individual on a terror list, his father comes to the U.S. Embassy to warn us and he still gets through. Just incompetence on the part of Homeland Security.
Fairly safe until the TSA published their screening document online!
I feel safe. The airlines and we, the people, will keep ourselves safe in the skies.
I don't feel any less safe because of this incident. The reality is that we will never be completely safe. That's simply the cost of freedom. I feel sorry for all of the passengers flying right now and being treated like criminals.
Dear Heidi, As safe as can be expected. The element of surprise and unplanned attacks will happen no matter how much security is in place. The Taliban and other terrorist organizations are very intelligent. We do not give them enough credit. Our Republican politicans can postulate and whine about what Pres. Obama's Administration should do or is not doing. It's all empty rherotic just to have air time. While this incident was thwarted, that is not to say it will not happen again in some other form no matter the security measures in place. The country of origin holds the major portion of the blame on this one.
I believe that air travel within the US continues to be very safe (statistically) when compared to other modes of transportation. That said, I also believe that most of the screening steps being used by TSA today are a fascade to make the flying public FEEL safer by providing a very visible "security" process, but without actuallty providing any real additional security. Obviously, given recent events, the current process is easily circumvented by a determined individual. Terrorists must be stopped before they get to the airport, not in the security checkpoint. By the time they get there, they are already in a crowded public place with a weapon... Think about it.
Well I was feeling safe, up until this last incident.....I have 3 children who travel as unaccompanied minors to NY on Delta at least twice a year....They left West palm beach on December 19th and are arriving back January 2nd....I am having full blown panic attacks already.....I just hope security is beefed up for good....We tend to lax with rules and regulations after a while....I lost my brother on 9/11 Daniel Lopez.....I don't wish for any other families to go thru what we went thru
Consider the number of flights in the air during the day, I feel pretty safe.
The one incident that has occured should not be causing all of these new restrictions.
Locking the door after the horse is crazy.
I have never felt unsafe flying neither before or after 9-11. However, I am increasingly concerned that TSA's incompetent leadership and knee-jerk reactions will kill air travel as we know it. None of the new security measures will do anything to truly enhance security but will instead make air travel even more uncomfortable for honest people that they will avoid traveling by air when possible. I would bet money that 90% of the restrictions put on air passengers do absolutely nothing to prevent a future terrorist attack.
As a retired military pilot, I realize flying will always involve a certain amount of manageable risk. As a middle-aged man, I remember the hijackings of the seventies and recognize those bent on terrorizing will always find some new method to do so. In the wake of this latest incident, I am no more or less concerned for my safety as a passenger. The only thing that worries me is how the bureaucrats will respond. What's next: inspections of our underwear by the TSA?
My husband is a pilot for a major airline at IAD. He complains that TSA employees are allowed to pass through security without screening. When asked why this is allowed he is told "the new badges set off the alarms." My husband is flying the airplane and is required to have all his bags searched every time he enters the airport. He is furious that TSA employees are walking past security. He complaints have fallen on deaf ears. Maybe today with all the coverage of the latest attempt on the flying public, someone will finally check into this situation.
Is it just me, or do all these new measures strike others as absurd? As it is now my 81 year old mother gets pulled aside and frisked every time she flies, because she has had hip replacements. She carries the card from the doctor stating this, but to no avail. Yet some nutcase from Nigeria slips by all this great "security". Now we all have to stay in our seats the last hour of the flight, can't stow anything under the seats. That's going to work great, I can tell. The overhead bins are already overcrowded from the fools who refuse to check in luggage and carry on way more than is allowed.
What has happened to common sense? They were so busy checking people's shoes that they missed the fact this guy's name was on a list. A list that they're supposed to have! Way to go, airport security. But make sure to frisk my mom when we fly next month!
Heidi I don't feel safe at all. I feel like all of the measures we take to make sure when are not terrorists at the airport is ridiculous. Its ridiculous because the terrorist know just what not to do and why do they know?.....because the government is stupid enough to put the security protocols on the internet. If that boy had not made a mistake with his bomb he would not have been caught. I'm not surprised he was able to get on a plane.
Heidi, my husband and I are concerned about the effects budget cuts have had on aircraft maintenance moreso than terrorists sneaking through the security gates. Rude flight attendants, delays, and feeling humiliated by tightened security measures will "drive" us to find other ways to travel. Werner and Roseanne Gutmann, Powhatan, Virginia
I've never flown, but seeing all of these ridiculous "security" measures being put into place makes me uneasy. Because more security means higher costs, higher fear, and when you fear, the terrorists win. They are there to incite fear, and so far, they've done their job. You know what? Let's take all of the security away, and let everyone who wants to carry a gun (provided they can legally and mentally be able to carry one) have one on the plane! if you don't know who could shoot you down, then you have better control of the plane.
I have traveled around the country this year and feel very safe. I believe that the TSA are doing a great job at keeping travelers safe. During the year there has not been a single incident with domestic flights. Without the TSA safety would be open season for terrorists. I would put up with anything that the TSA would deem necessary for our safety.
Up till now I felt very safe. This latest terrorist attempt further exposes an already known weakness and I fear that even though this latest attack failed, it may embolden others to try again.
I feel safe to fly but then agian I travel with God.
Those who dont, wont.
Merry Christmas Heidi and CNN Staff.
I don't feel safe flying at all which is one reason why I have stopped. I had my own experience of over-shooting a run way in the Bahamas, which of course they would never confirmed this with us. I don't trust them, I think they have ripped off the public for years in the expense to fly, and have no respect for the paying public; and for some reason with all the millions of customers they hold up everyday and x-raying baby formula, the people with the Bombs still seem to get right thru and on the plane! When was the last time we heard of a airport screener actually stopping someone who has explosives on them and was planning on blowing up the plane? Why is it being left up to the passengers on the plane to have to prevent such a tragedy?
I fly in excess of 100K mi/yr and I'm always more concerned about the possibility of being on a plane with nuts behind the controls than nuts in the cabin
Talking about NW253 from Amsterdam to Detroit on X'mas day, I feel the passengers and crew members were very lucky for their lives since the perpetrator tried to blow up the aircraft seating in his seat and one of the passengers saw and jumped on him and prevented the catastrophe. What if he had decided to do it in the toilet of the aircraft? Who would have seen him do the heinous act and prevented ? Air travel scary isn't it?
I'm a disabled man from LI. Even the most deviout Muslums want to/ consider it their God givin duty to kill the non-believers. I realize how we're all up in arms about religeous freedoms and diversity. But they live to die and kill us.
Heidi- Lest we forget what happened on 9/11. I am in the U.S. military and travel often. Whenever I get on an airplane, I hand my business card to the flight crew and tell them I have their back. We must come to the reality that there is not a 100% solution to airline security. Every American must realize that when the airplane cabin doors are closed we all have to be ready to become air marshalls.
I don't feel 100 percent safe when I fly. I don't think we ever will be unless we give up all of our freedom. You can't stop who is tanding next to you on a street and you never know what they might do. I think we should have more pat downs and bag checks etc. before entering the plane, but continue to have the right on the plane to use a blanket if we are cold or keep busy with our books or toys in order to get through the flight. I am not very comfortable flying anyway.
I think that statement you made is a bit self-righteous! God has nothing to do with this! GOD did not give man wings so maybe it was meant for us to keep our butts on the ground. Judgement has no place in this conversation and is exactly what is fueling all the hate to begin with.
I fly a lot and feel completely safe! If we go through these knee jerk reactions we let one idiot who can't even blow himself up win! We win if we do not disrupt our lives anymore. We take off our shoes because of another idiot. What's next cavity searches? Empower frequent flyers, better data bases and profile, profile, profile! We depend too much on screening machines and not on people.
It doesn't matter how safe you feel when you fly – just fly when you wish to. If people don't fly the terrorist win. Don't let them terrorize us. We must fly when we want. Even if there is fear. God bless America.
Tim, Mason Michigan
How can I feel safe when authorities ignore complaints of a suspect's father? Flying is a necessary evil of our time.
Sorry Heidi, Fran Townsend is the very last person to interview about airline security! Under her bosses we were attacked by terrorists who were already in the U.S. Where were Bush/Cheney before it happened??? In my opinion, asleep at the switch!!! Their intelligence stunk!
My wife and I just returned from Punta Cana, Dominican Republic yesterday proceeding to Toronto International Airport. Air Safety is only as good as the Airport you're departing from. I have a Pacemaker and therefore can't go through the regular Airport Screening Device. I require and accept the 'Pat Down' procedure. I could have brought anything into the Terminal and onto the Plane after the extremely poor search conducted on me at the Security Checkpoint. I always accept being searched properly, it protects myself and everyone else when done properly. Being a retired Police Officer, perhaps I could teach some of these individuals the proper search procedures.
And would you believe, when I drop off three kids at the airport whom are traveling alone, TSA gives me a hard time about giving my husband and I each a gate pass so that we can accompany all three children to the gate. They give only one gate pass....That is so unfair....Kida want to say goodbye to both parents....and it's hard to choose which one of us will go thru. But it"s so easy for these terrorist to get thru our gates with explosives on their bodies....You figure
I am very concerned about flying right now. My biggest concern is the nitwit running our Homeland Security who doesn't even realize that a problem exists!! She thinks the system worked just fine?!?!
After 9/11, President Bush did an excellent job protecting our country for 7 years and now within one year of Obama we have been attacked twice. This administration has no clue about this issue, our economy (10.5% unemployment), climate change (climate is supposed to change – duh), and many other things!
2010 and 2012 can't come soon enough to get these "feel good – but worthless" liberals out of office!!
I have worked for the TSA in a lower level supervisory status. No one should feel safe flying.. Although the chances of UR flight being targeted are slim, the risk is still there. Many Many prohibited items are permitted to pass through airport check points if U know what to say .. In many communities this info is passed around by word of mouth... The India and Israel flights are the worst offenders, but many others know the system too and do use it (abuse it) . These 2 countries are primary targets for terrorist and yet they game the system and are permitted to do so. They are permitted to bring large amounts of liquids, bottles of water, Juices, filled baby bottles etc.. Most claim " it's for the children " or they claim to be Diabetic and need it during the flight.. At that point they would be permitted to bring the liquids through the checkpoint and onboard with them... Who knows what kind of liquids are in those vessels .. The Liquid "snifer" only detects peroxide based explosives and 85 % of the time there not in operating condition, they are very touchy machines and are down most of the time.. So your standing in line and get to the checkpoint and you have a half a bottle of water left so you have it taken from you and thrown away.. The next person comes up and has 6 containers of juice, 3 bottles of water... The person says I need it , I'm diabetic ,,, So what happens ?? Nothing the person is allowed to take it through with them.. This is just one thing,, there are several other things that are prohibited and allowed through... So the US has no business throwing stones at these other countries that let this person through... He would of just as easily made through any US checkpoint.. I was in Law enforcement for 26 yrs before going over to TSA .. I was really shocked by how it operated .. It is all smoke and mirrors....
Last night, when I saw the screener at O'Hare inspecting a cured salami that I had in my bag, I felt safe.
I have really considered on traveling by train now. Since part of our rights have been stripped and you are subject to the 3rd degree, (It makes you feel like a criminal. Multiply this will all the thousands of people that travel and you have a delay factor that is out of this Universe. I understand about our National Security and I am willing to drop my PANTS DOWN if it deemed it. Its because of our previous government officials who are not subjected to these delays the reason why we are faced this now. We need to at least nip this at the bud by checking people before they are boarded. We are going through all of these check ponts and still we are faced with this delimmal.. I am very non judgemental but we need to start checking THE SPELLING OF NAMES and not just every American citizen with Jane,Mary Tom Dick or Harry.
If they could get "racial profiling" behind them we would be a lot safer as that is the real problem. As I said earlier.. .the 90 year old couple's are not the problem yet they waste their time on them and not the obvious lol
Arrived last night at DTW with Delta, from Christmas vacations in MB, Jamaica. My opinion; the inspection security need to be on the same page in every airports around the world...after 3 check points, some get away with same articles and some don't!!! When I left a week ago I did feel safe. Did not at all in that plane last night. The use of bathroom one hour before landing was a chaos on that plane.
If all our resources.personnel, and technology weren't being squandered trying to bring"democracy" everywhere else in the world, we could protect our own country and citizens.
How safe am I you ask? I feel pretty safe when traveling. I will stare a person down and speak up in a second if he looks like a suspect and doesnt have an American given name. I'm sorry but thats just what it has come to. I was traveling to Arizona one year and the security person patting me down couldnt even speak english and looked like a Taliban himself. So asked me how are we suppose to feel safe? We sometimes have to make our own safety precautions by protecting ourselves since we have such a flawed system.
The fact that he passed how many security check points from nigeria to amsterdam with a bomb strapped on him is really suspicious these days when airport security will disturb you just for carrying tooth paste.
I dont think you understand how useful this whole terror scare has become and what they are able to do with it. Open your eyes my friend! At the end of the day it could be a real alqaeda threat or a hatched up plot. Im thinkin it looks more like a hatched up plot!..designed to expand the war on terror into oil and gas rich Nigeria!
Great Question, and at this time I do not feel safe riding a plane for the simple fact this man was able to make it as far as he did to my home city which is a major wake up call. This shows me that it can even take place in Detroit which was far beyond my expectation. He was creative enough to use regular house materials and hide it the entire trip. What is the next item that can be used, notebook paper and pens pretending to write a book? Something to think about homeland security.
Rev Kevin Sanders
MVOG Ministries International
Where's the beef? All this talk about beefing up and ramping up security at airports – why not just do it right the first time? Ramp up to your highest level and keep it there. How much more beefing up has to take place before we all feel safe?
After 8yrs "Homeland Security" has a guy on a watch list that they can't watch. Even as he purchases tickets in a manner that should have raised alerts. One of their responses to make me feel safer is to put everyone on an airliner on "timeout" for the last hour of a flight. System is still broken and flailing around randomly.
I feel very safe when I fly.
What puzzles me is why the increased security for DOMESTIC flights or flights leaving the U.S.? Is the government worried about travelers from the terrorist hotbeds of Fargo, North Dakota or Moriarity, New Mexico? I'm constantly puzzled by the government's ignoring the pink elephant in the room-terror threats coming FROM other parts of the world TO the U.S.
So, their solution is to increase the screening of U.S passengers traveling domestically or going to locations overseas.
Heidi: Felt much safer up until yesterday when I heard Janet Napolitano's interview. Having someone like that at the helm is TERRIFYING! Is it naivete or plain dishonesty? It cannot be swept away by trying the old "out of context" trick. Her job is prevention first!!
Air travel has become so uncomfortable that i would rather take the train places. Being packed in seats that are so small that a 5'4" person feels cramped; security that takes long time to go through whom, at least in Detroit, seem angrier and more unfriendly; and overreaction and restrictive and ineffective rule changes that make the whole scene worse. I pity those that have to fly.
I feel safe flying. I'm one of the guys sitting up front flying the airplane so I better be up to flying its my job. Nobody should worry about their flight. If you are a Christian our God will take care of us and if its our time well, its our time.
Thankyou for the story on disabilties and the diffucult things you have to go through to get back to everyday life.Before I became disabled two years ago I traveled went on cruises and many other things.So now I have a sense of what I will deal with at least when I decide to fly again.
Heidi .........just read on refdesk.com that Yemen has made several arrests following the w/e flight incidents but I haven't heard any mention on your program so far ......
There is an explosives detection device that with a simple wipf of the air next to the bomber suspect would have decteted the explosive at the airport sereening.
The problem is that the TSA has had this technology for several years and has not made any orders for the product to use.
The product is called the Implant Sciences Quantum Sniffer.
The Chinese railroad system has ordered several hundred of these devices to screen passangers.
Please do your research on this security screening device ans ask Janet at homeland security about it.
We do our part so the govt can function properly. But the govt is not doing their part to protect us. People at the CIA and FBI should be held responsibility for failing to act.
I would feel somewhat safe if I had to fly. All I've been hearing is that this individual is on a watch list, but not one that calls for additional screening measures. My question is, why is there a list like this to begin with. Someone's name is on a list of suspected or possible terrorists links but it doesn't call for extra screening measures. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. And what on earth are behavioral specialists going to accomplish in an airport.
I feel very safe. Air travel is still considered the safest form despite these incidents. I would not worry about added security – it is just another layer travelers would just need to adapt and plan for. To be honest, until the next terrorist devise a new method to bring a plane down, we will just have to ensure this.
How can we feel safe when , clearly, it is very easy for someone to board a plane anywhere in the world with explosives and no one detected it? Airports can make explanations and excuses, but at the end of the day, all security measures used are not working. We have cancelled our European trip for this summer.
I still feel safer than when I drive. But now like when driving defensively and watching for drunk drivers, we apparently have to all watch out for crazy or suspicious behavior from fellow passengers.
Does anybody use a common sense about what happened. Another mostly press created mass hysteria in USA! People get real! Like having everybody seated for the last hour of the flight would prevent exploding a bomb in a first part of the flight? And not having blanckets on your knees??? Honestly? who comes up with these silly ideas? And lineups at the airport , created by padding down every single white female? every child? every man? i am surprised that there is no voice oc common sense on CNN who would say this out loud? Everybody just goes with the flow of another scare mania?
Janet napalatano just danced around the real question, why was this man allowed on a plane after his father reported him as a threat. We must forget about being politically correct and try to be safe. This country must stop letting the rest of the world play us as a patsy!
DAVE FROM MICHIGAN I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY>>>>- Lest we forget what happened on 9/11. I am in the U.S. military and travel often. Whenever I get on an airplane, I hand my business card to the flight crew and tell them I have their back. We must come to the reality that there is not a 100% solution to airline security. Every American must realize that when the airplane cabin doors are closed we all have to be ready to become air marshalls
What makes me so uncomfortable about Friday's incident is the fact that when the suspect was returning from the bathroom to and confronted by the Flight Attendant who asked what was he had under his clothes and the suspect replied an explosive device and nothing was done at that point before the incident escalated. Follow that with the fiasco on Sunday, who was that flight attendant and what is being done about that last point lapse in due diligence?
Herb in Iowa
I feel as safe in the air as I do anywhere else. I fly every week but only domestically. The system isn't perfect but it is what it is. You can't be protected against everything. However, I will say that there is a vast difference in the quality of TSA personnel airport to airport. Some do an outstanding job while others just go thru the motions. That should be a higher paying job resulting in more diligent workers. As it stands in some airports the quality of individual performing security tasks is similar to what you might find in a fast food restaurant. You get what you pay for I guess.
Extremely safe. There is only 1 terrorist incident per 16 million flights. Air collisions from drunk or tired pilots and controllers are more likely to kill you then a terrorist incident. Car deaths from drunks and cell phone users are real threats. Fear from terrorism is the victory terrorists want. They have achieved their goal. Pre-emptive bombings of yemen, pakistan, afghanistan, iraq and iran will not make us any safer. If a father calls up the FBI and says his son is a terrorist the FAA must keep him off the plane. Body cavity searches will be next unless we stop the fear mongering.
I feel just as safe as you could in a 50 ton metal tube flying 600miles an hour 6 miles high. But then I'd fly the Shuttle or Soyuz! And where I'll give them my luggage, my carry ons, I'll take off my shoes and even give 'em my belt; but I will not take off my underwear for TSA to inspect!
When I'm traveling in the U.S. I do feel safe because I can see the effort of the TSA personnel. In addition, I personally keep viligant for suspicious activity. I just want to know why it isn't more emphasis that security screening failed in Amsterdam – outside the U.S. – and not in the U.S.? He was allowed through screening with the PETN in Amsterdam – not the U.S.! Can we emphasize that point a little more please?! I think that is important point. I only heard Jean Meserve state it once in the last two hours I've been watching CNN.
TSA is a national joke as is Homeland Security under Napoliatano. The 3oz requirements is a joke as they do not check the contents of the items in the baggies. I could carry 5 items of 3oz each and when I get on the plane, head to the toilet and combine the materials.
Any item that is not detectable by the metal detector (matches, plastic articles, gels, liquids, etc..) can be taken on board.
TSA staff seem more interested in socializing with each other than really providing security. napoliatano's comments that the system is working fine is a cause for concern. Everyone who travels is required to ahve a valid ID. That ID should be checked, not just viewed by a TSA staff member, via computer prior to passing through security. Having a license and havign it viewed under a blue light is useless.
If they want to take a plane down they will find a way due to the ridiculous policies of TSA.
profiling as used by the Israeli's is needed.
Female terrorist will be next. I don't want to appear sexist but a female in Islamic, traditional clothing could hide multiple Kotex filled PETN type bomb materials in her crotch and who's going to know? Modesty considerations will override inspection procedures unfortunately.
I feel safer flying...than driving in Seattle during a snow storm...but i'm not sure my heart(and bladder) can handle dehydration(no water) or hydration(no bathroom for 2 hours of each flight!!!)....that makes no sense...and please turn up the heat if you take away our blankets!
Hi, American living in Colombia. Fly every year to USA to visit my Son. Allways fly COPA Airlines, & feel very safe. Security check here in Colombia is quite good (xray machines, plus going thru carry ons thoroughly), as well as that in Orlando. I am not overly concerned about security with TSA. Afterall the incident that happened on 25 December 09, was missed by security in another country, right?
Maybe all people should go thru scans, search, when going thru any airport, even those making a connecting flight??
Living in Windsor, Ontario, Canada we have the added inspection when we cross the border to take flights out of Detroit(DTW).
We never feel we have enough paper work with us when we fly.
On returning to Detroit there are a lot of airport security people that do not understand just how close Windsor and Detroit are and when they see our Canadian passport they question us several times why we are flying into Detroit.
You want to pull out a map to show them the reason, but I know that will only add to the delays.
Over the past few years I have had a series of dreams of a major incident involving commercial airliners. As a result I no longer travel by commercial airline. If I have an absolute need to travel by air, I take a private jet timeshare. It is a lot less hassle and since I can fly into smaller airports, I can get to my destination quicker. On a recent trip I went coast to coast (NJ to LA area) in six hours, including getting thru "security" which is much more simpler for private jet travel. Plus I can drop off and pick up my bag plane-side. But I am lucky, I can afford to do this. I pity the general flying public....they are royally screwed!
WE Are responsible for our own security so it would seem obviuos that on all direct flights into this country WE should have our own screening conducted at terminals. We cannot depend on private ind or other countries to secure the safety of our citizens.
While they check my sneakers and take my wife's eye tweezers, a suspicious Nigerian male with no luggage gets on the plane with a bomb. NO, not safer and apparently not any smarter either. I have been saying to my wife that I hate taking off my shoes in a public place and have said to her repeatedly " What are they going to do when one of them brings the bomb in their pants?"Well Janet Napolitano, what now? Time to profile. It isn't white males like me who need to be harressed by false security. I heard Napolitano's excuse why a guy on a watch list wasn't caught buying a plane ticket and it's her answer that makes us still not safe at all.
Flying today is no more dangerous than it ever was. Not only are airport security and airline passengers more vigilant but also quicker to react to a situation should one arise. There will always be someone to create a new way to cause a problem in the air and security should be prepared to to detect what is within their means. People should be no more reluctant to fly than to drive. The attacker on Christmas day was unsuccessful and the situation has thus far been handled appropriately. If people let terrorist actions change our patterns of behavior based on manipulating our fears, their goal has been met.
I expect that we will see more airport security officers with automatic rifles in the near future. I have flown all over the world and, frankly, feel least safe in environments where big guns are in pain sight.
The absolute truth....Feeling safe in flight, at one time ment...not being overly concern of an aircraft crashing due mechanical failure, or pilot error.Now we have an added concern ,which in many ways,proving to be a more realistic obstacle to safety...not only while aboard a plane , but any community are...The reality is...these concerned cannot be taken lightly....whether you are just an everyday citizen ,or one of the people whose job it is to provide some level of safety....A would be terrorist only has to be successful once...We , as Americans , now must be correct in our preventive measures 24/7...
I'm sure the next time I fly I will feel safer. I will especially feel safe during the last hour of the flight, knowing that there is no one in the washroom making a bomb. However I will probably be fearful during the first hours of the flight not knowing what the heck is happening in that washroom.
Sharon, I dont fear flying because of my relation with God. So God takes away my fear from evil. But in doing this for me, this is how all the hatred started? All I can say to that is get to know Him with your Heart and not your mind then you will understnad my comment. Until then you will criticize me. I would pesonaly love to destroy all evil and evil doers but i'm am not the Judge.
Overall, I feel very safe while flying. But what concerns me more than a terrorist attack while in-flight is the long, unregulated hours of the pilots and crew aboard the plane. How many hours per week have they been working? Are they well rested?
As for any future attempt of an airplane attack, I think the passengers on board are not going to put up with it anymore. I think this was proven beautifully by the passenger(s) who took down the would-be terrorist on Christmas Day. Talk about a Christmas miracle!
I'm listening to your broadcast and amazed by the comments from reporters that are at the Detroit airport. I flew yesterday out of the Detroit airport (as I have many times) and thought the security was ridiculously lax for a normal time but especially so just two days after the Dec. 25th incident. When checking bags you normally have to show your id, we were stunned when this didn't happen. We only had our id's checked once not the normal two times. We went through the security checkpoint as normal – shoes, coats, etc. off but there were no body pat-downs as we had heard reported from other airports. We were amazed that at the actual airport that the plane was flying into it didn't have stricter security. I keep hearing about dogs and the such but we didn't see any anywhere. Just thought you should hear this point of view from an actual traveler. Thanks.
We have traveled a lot in the past few years, leaving from BWI and Dulles, we are surprised at the casual and jovial attitude of some of the people at security. I am often wonder if they miss a lot.
I am also aware that other countries have more, or or sometimes less, discipline at security, but we will not be deterred from traveling...or the terrorist will have won!
No mode of transportation is without risk. However, I know I am safer when I fly than when I am traveling in a car. I wish the news media would spend more time reporting the number of people that are killed every day in car accidents. Every time there is a plane crash or any kind of security scare related to air travel, it is headline news for days. If you made car accidents a bigger story, maybe people would think more about their careless driving habits and how quickly they can take a person's life.
I know this may sound crazy, but the only way to prevent people from assembling explosive devices on an aircraft is to monitor the rest room. Expectation to privacy should not trump the safety of millions of travelers. I generally do my business before I board an aircraft. Personally, I would rather b
In this country, we have lost our collective minds to paranoia and fear. It is fueled by politicians and the 24 hors news media.
Sure there are threats and we should take reasonable and prudent precautions. Think of all the tragic deaths that occur from violent acts in our cities everyday. What do we do about those? Not much. But let one idiot try to bomb a plan and we go crazy.
But authorities blindly go into knee jerk reaction, after the fact. The horse is out of the barn and we lock the door with double locks.
The United States is the ultimate nanny state and we need to just relax and use our heads. For example, this guy tried to blow up the plan a few minutes before landing and we have to sit for one hour, empty lapped as a result. What if he had done it mid-flight, would we have to sit for the entire flight? It is this kind of stupid knee jerk reaction, that is out of control.
i've always felt safe when travelling, but there are a couple of problems that need to be resolved after the xmas day incident.
1. The TIA needs to answer the question of why this person was allowed to fly towards the US. No doubt there are a lot of folks scrambling to spin their answers.
2. The US has to work out how they ensure that there is an international standard for screening of flyers. What is the point of increasing US security when other countries do not follow the same rules? We are now faced with more knee jerk reactions for our safety.
Lastly news organizations need to stop introducing fear into the reporting of situations. CNN, alone, spent about 3 or 4 hours yesterday focused on a, somewhat, common problem on flights these days. Just because it was on the same flight number as the xmas day incident you flooded the airways. I know it was a slow news day, but all you you've done is to incease the fear of the flying public. You need to introduce some common sense into what you report.
I don't feel safe flying after this incident, and I would definitely not mind more "inconveniences" if they kept more people alive and stopped extremism such as this before they even happened.
These security updates are absurd. I travel frequently and feel completely safe. The terrorist are successfully terrorizing us without blowing ANYTHING up!
What does it matter if they make me sit for the last hour and not go in my carry-on instead of the first hour? What about flights less than an hour? Are they going to tell me my carry-on luggage can't be touched? What sense does that make? All this policy is shows how incompetent TSA agents are.
I feel completely safe. It's a matter of weighing the odds. These new security measures will do nothing but make air travel much less convenient. As Ben Franklin said, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
Why hasn't anyone talked about the use of bomb-sniffing dogs?
Is TSA scanning all cargo on the plane (not just passenger bags, but true cargo that doesn't have a passenger associated with it)? Until all cargo is scanned, no, I don't feel safe. Everything under the plane should get the same scrutiny as the passengers.
I was saying that I would rather be monitored alive in a rest room than viewed dead in a casket
I'm a nervous flier to begin with – this increases the jitters. If you must fly to get somewhere or if there is a 'bucket list' trip possibility, I would get over it enough to fly again, but absent that, probably not. Driving looks more and more reasonable. Destinations closer to home look more and more attractive.
I generally feel pretty safe flying however considering on the same day that the incident took place in Detroit I managed to (unknowingly) get a paring knife through security in my purse still in its original box marked with PARING KNIFE (by the way thanks Mom, love the gift!) ... well.... they at least tested the children's ibuprofen... that's something right?
now the fun is gone from flying why not just give your money to the air carrier and drive? escort to the bathroom? can't wait to see how asking a cabin attendant for an escort will get you anything but a stall tactic.
Terrorists have to get it right only once. As a frequent air traveler, I generally feel safe, but think inconvenience is a small price to pay for security.
This is one more incident to inconvenience all of us. A lot of the security we go through as fliers doesn't make any sense, and simply wastes time. For instance, people who work at the airport don't have to take off their shoes – so what's to keep them from trading shoes with someone after they go through security? I feel safe because of my fellow-passengers. Like the last flight on 9-11-2001 we won't let something like that ever happen again. It sounds like this is what happening on Christmas day too.
I do not understand why "terrorists" target airplanes. If they were to create true terror wouldn't you think they would target a HUGE shopping mall the day after xmas? Ooops I guess i gave them a new idea. buffoons.
I will feel safe flying when either 1) everyone flies naked, chained to their seats, or, 2) we end our nonsensical perpetual support of Israel.
We have people in Washington who are making rules and who are not competent to make rules. All of these restrictions during the last hour of the flight are stupid. They are simply training would-be terrorists to make their move before the final hour.
I have your broadcast playing and I was reminded how nobody should ever completely believe anything that is in the media. We are not at the end of the decade. We are finishing the 9th year of the decade. The 21st century began in 2001 and the first decade does not end for another year. Get your facts straight!!!
I am more worried about outsourced mechanical work of aircraft, declining upkeep of airports, and other cost matters bringing down a plane than terrorists.
This incident has caused the government to overreact. I have always felt safe flying. Moreover, it does not make sense to keep people sitting for the final hour. What if an incident happened in the first hour of flying? Would the traveling public have to sit for the entire flight? The government needs to align the Watch List to the Selectee List. This would have prevented the Christmas Day incident. Thankfully some pretty intellegent passengers took the lead and saved a disaster.
I have absolutely no concerns regarding security while flying. What does concern me is the prohibition on movement during the final hour of a flight. What's the rationale? Do terrorists only act during a flight's final approach? It does not make sense to me.
I've never felt "un-safe".
These new rules are just more self-justification for the perverts hired by the TSA to grope women's body parts. Think it doesn't happen? Think again. I've been "patted down" (their term) more times than I can count and each time my breasts were squeezed by the TSA agent. My husband was made to unzip his pants and his "private parts" groped. Now we have a restroom escort on board? Are they going to watch us answer mother nature's call? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I'll never fly again.
Of course I am afraid to fly! What if I have to go to the bathroom? What if they don't like something I have in a bag?
Passengers won't let neighboring passengers try to commit some terrorist act.
It's the rules that make me a nervous wreck!
Hey how about we make it a security measure that all passengers are required to fly Buck Naked! Then we can be absolutely sure no one is carrying anything. Its cheaper than the "State of the Art" screening that is obviously doing nothing. Or jus fit us all with strait-jackets. First, taking things off passenges laps an hour prior to landing wont do anything if they have a bomb on the plane already. So the next terrorist watching will start 2 hrs prior to landing. Then what?
The International Government knew about the flight 253 terrorist, and did nothing.
IT STARTS BY FINDING THEM BEFORE THEY GET ON THE PLANE
As a former Homeland Security employee and a current FAA employee, aviation has been my life and I know all too well how vulnerable we all are. It is only as a result of incompetent jihadists and the lack of current desire by competent ones that we have avoided any successful attacks. This security net we stretch accross the nations aviation system will only prevent amateur attackers and anyone with basic knowledge can slip through. It's common sense to think that if TSA is, by law, unable to search private areas of the body, then that may be a good way to pass something through security. As for the "behavioral specialists" you refered to earlier, I advise you to look into their credentials and see how they were promoted to that position. You may be somewhat surprised, if you do not know how the Federal Government advances their employees, to find out that these are TSA screeners who applied and were promoted based on good attendence, conduct and friends in managment, not tests of observational skills, education or actual credentials. I think what it comes down to is keeping your own eyes open to any suspicious behavior. To trust in this flawed government agency would be foolish, however, the chances of an attack are still unlikely to happen on your flight.
The thing that bothers me is that it takes an attempt of something horrible to happen for security to beef up , then after a period of time it goes back and security slacks off I think it should be consistant and security should always be beefed up I would rather take off my shoes and do what needs to be done and know ALL measures have been taken than to have happen what did in Detroit .
Does anyone honestly believe that a terrorist will do anything in the near future. They have nothing but time, and will wait until everything quiets down. All the additional security measures are a big waste of time at the present moment.
Also, the security breech did not occur in the USA. Have the foreign airports stepped up security.
No terrorist will first come to the US than board a plane. They will board it elsewhere!
I fly regularly and I feel completely safe. These incidents are incredibly few and far between. The new restrictions for the last hour of flight are reactionary and will be very hard to enforce. Additionally, if there need to be restrictions it should be on carry-on baggage. New airline fees are pushing more and more folks to carry on their baggage and there's simply no way that TSA can successfully scan the large number of carry-on bags that come through their scanners each hour.
The current "heightened" security is nonsense. The American traveling public is being punished for the incompetence of Homeland Security not paying attention to warnings about one traveler. This is all eyewash and a typical over reaction to the current situation. Had Homeland security and the TSA done their jobs to begin with this guy never would have been let on a plane. Obviously listening to the Homeland Secretary on her initial comments she is out of touch with reality and needs to be fired along with those involved in not looking closer to this individual, who had been reported by his family!
I feel perfectly safe when I fly. You have to understand that your chances of dying in a terrorist attack aboard a plane are several orders of magnitude lower than dying in the car on the way to the airport, or of dropping dead of a heart attack while waiting in line. Seriously; check the CDC mortality statistics.
All these new "security" measures do is inconvenience those of us who have to fly frequently–the "stay seated" aka "wear diapers" rule is ridiculously inane, as is the "no books or any carry-ons out for the final hour of flight" rule, and any kindergartener should be able to see through these emperor's new clothes for what they are: knee-jerk, reactionary measures which don't even do a good job of shutting the barn door after the horse has gotten out, much less make us safer.
You're hearing so much praise of them and "it doesn't bother me" at the airports at the moment largely because the people traveling at the moment are ones who only do so a few times a year, at most. Those of us who fly dozens to hundreds of times a year are not looking forward to our next trips! Come on, people, use some logic and statistics: we're trying to avoid all risk when the risk itself was incredibly low to begin with. It blows my mind people do things which are far more dangerous (smoking, skipping the gym, driving a car, etc.) yet cower at the thought of terrorists. Grow up, folks!
Airline security is on the same page as crashing parties at the White House. Mr. Obama needs to start with a clean security page and rebuild the policies. The real enemy is complacency.
I feel very safe. It's when people like this man Umar are LET onto a plane without a passport and actually escorted onto the plane by some man that I feel unsafe.
According to Kurt Haskell, an attorney with the Haskell Law Firm in Taylor, Michigan, “He and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.”
Mutallab was a poorly dressed, young looking individual, but he was accompanied by a man in an expensive suit, Haskell told MLive.com.
“He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, ‘He’s from Sudan and we do this all the time.’”
As a Southern Nigerian (Christian) born citizen of United State, I will definitely stay away from travelling by air for some period of time. Thanks to the stupid beliefs & ignorant ideology of that Mr AbdullMutallab and people like him from Northern Nigeria. I will stay away because of a pending stigma that will exist against nigerian travellers subsequent to this Christmas incident.
Daniel - "do not forget Christ in CHRISTmas".
I thought I was safe until this most recent event which was a wake up call to me and hopefully to all of America. It just shows that terrorists will never stop their attempts to attack Americans.
I do appreciate the new security measures that have been recently been put in place but hope that it's only a stop gap measure; we need to build upon what we've just done and realize that even more needs to be done. When will we finally accept that carry-ons are a bad idea? There are just to many hazards and we need to be more secure and safer. NO purses, NO laptops, NO nothing! Lets just focus on the trip and arriving safely.
i dont feel safe at all.i remember the 80's when terrorist highjacked planes on a regular bassis.this people are educated,smart,and very dangerous.
Was is a really slow news weekend ? Nothing else to report on but this?
I have always felt safe...statistically it is the safest way to travel. You are far more likely to get killed in a car wreck than a terrorist attack. Additional security is stupid. Instead of more security, just follow up when the guy's father calls the embassy with concerns that his son is a terrorist. As far as 9/11, according to many reports, those hijackers should have never been given visas in the first place. This is something airport security will not fix.
I fly every week. None of our procedures for security are appropriate. We have people with limited education in security performing the procedures resulting in unnecessary harassment and no ability to identify high risk situations. We can keep "beefing" up security and creating unnecessary travel stress or we can finally figure out a security program that is effective and appropriate. I have always felt safe, and will continue to feel safe.
question please- why is it that measures like remaining in your seat, nothing on lap,etc. is required only during the last hour of flight? Can't explosives be detonated at any time during the flight??
I'll feel a lot safer if imaging devices were installed in every airport and used the way the metal detectors are used. And if someone is on a list as a risk or possible risk, their name should come up as someone who HAS to go through the imaging device. I'd rather insult someone innocent than die in midair. If someone has nothing to hide, they would not mind going through extra security. I don't understand why the 23 year old man in custody for trying to ignite a bomb was not picked out and sent through extra security checks. I'd feel a lot safer knowing that people on that list are required to go through extra checks.
I don't fear flying. I don't fear the terrorist. I do fear the people that are that are overly concerned about the terrorist. Now we have someone that was really sick and was taken away in handcuffs. I think the terrorists have already accomplished what they wanted. I'm glad I don't have any trips planned.
I usually feel very safe while flying, and I think that this isolated incident is the result of someone's negligence. Better security measures should be developed so that law abiding flyers do not have to suffer from these new extreme policies. The problem to me doesn't stem from having things in one's lap during flight or going to the bathroom. The true problem is that these people can slip pass security and still board planes. Banning people from using the bathroom and having thier personal items in their laps will not stop these terrorists after they have already boarded the plane. TSA should conduct more extensive searches to be preemptive against attacks and not responsive as it seems we are doing now.
seriously: i fly a lot, and so does my family. wouldn't it be the safest, cheapest, and fastest thing to do to hand us a flight suit, have us dirsobe-go through security- and have all the clothes and luggage put into vacuum sealed containers in the hold-after going through security-and allow no carry on bags except for id docs?
the maxmum flight time is not more than say 10-12 hours-with the greater majority far shorter than that. i'm a businessman, but the world can wait for a few hours-so we dont really need all the computers, telephones and gizmos for communication-and when airlines provide us with full internet on board, we can send email and access online data-so we dont need gizmos with us on the plane.
Generally speaking, I feel relatively safe. However, why haven't new standards *yet* been put in place to screen *all* mail and packages that are going into the cargo holds of domestic flights? My shoes get screened before I board a flight, but it's indeed unsettling to think about the mail and such that hasn't been thoroughly checked out. I'm afraid we still have quite a ways to go when it comes to airport security.
The monies spent for security at the Pentagon, the White House and the billions spent at NASA should also be spent at ALL the airports. We do not have the technology and the state of the art equipment to do the job as efficiently as it should. Why is it the something has to happen before things get done? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
A primary result of all the security measures at airports is that they give the ILLUSION of safety so that people will continue to travel. I fly frequently and feel no more or no less safe now than I do getting in my car everyday. It's just a roll of the dice and you can't stop living because something might happen.
How stupid these people at the Justice Dept can be.
They are asking for a DNA sample of the Nigerian guy to prove that he is linked to the explosive device at the plane.
Don't they have 270 passengers to witness that?
Didn't they already got the sample when they were treating their burns?
All this is just a media bluff
I fly often. They can delay a 90 year old woman with hip implants but we cannot add a guy to a list when his parents say he is a danger. The knee-jerk reaction by a failed system only gives our enemies what they want–more disruption and delays.
I have always felt relatively safe when I have flown. I worry more about the Air Traffic Controllers than Terrorists. Personally I think the Airlines are over reacting. The problem was not in the last hour it was BEFORE the Person EVER boarded the plane. If the security measures were properly in place overseas then he would not have made the plane. Also If the man was on ONE countries NO FLY list e should have been on ours. Over 99% of ALL flights World wide have had no problems. To Create a Prison atmosphere while in flight is ludicrous and counter productive.. It will result in less people flying and an increase in Air fares that will only line the airlines pockets.
While the odds are in our favor to be on only flights safe from terrorism, I cannot help but feel a bit of real concern when I step aboard a flight. At least as far as personal travel is concerned, I am exploring the possibilities of more travel by car or train..
This is a total breakdown of our security system and instead of punishing the agencys, getting them to tighten up the entry screening, the flying public get punished. Our country needs to take a page out of the Israili's security system. TSA is a joke.
I do feel safe, just because the US Embassy failed to revoke this individual’s Entry Visa and require him to undergo further questioning and screening does not make me feel less safe today than a week ago.
I have been a bit anxious when flying since 911. However, I am ok with whatever security measures that are put into place. I would rather be inconvenieced for a liitle while as opposed to being exposed to a potential disaster.
If I can't go in my car, I don't go, I don't consider any public transportation safe.
I think security in the U.S. overall remains quite good, notwithstanding the recent event While it exposed a vulnerability, it does not obviate the need for individuals to remain very aware and report anything suspicious to complement overall security. However, I am concerned about security in Amsterdam, having just been through there. I saw firsthand people being allowed to sit in a boarding area before security screeners had arrived. I reported it, While the people were told to vacate the area once security screeners arrived, I didn't see any serious check of the lounge area. Those people could have planted something in the waiting lounge, only to pick it up once they went back through security.
I don't feel safer flying because no one seems to be following through on what really matters–the watch list and the no fly list. If intensive security checks were enforced for these passengers, I think we would all feel safer. It seems to me that all security efforts should be in making updated lists readily available to security personnel at the terminals. These other changes are just "window dressing."
No! I do NOT feel safe flying.. I can't believe with all that's happened we STILL have issues like this. Farouk was on the Terrorist list and that should have come up when he purchased a ticket for further screening. Anyone on that list that is flying, should be processed differently.
I don't care if I'm patted down, x-rayed, etc... I want to fly and know I'll be safe. Do I like it? No- is this the world we live in now? Yes.
Anyone that posts a note saying they feel "safer than driving a car" are simply in denial. They certainly would be beating a different drum if their son/daugher were on the Christmas Day plane if it went down. Everyone....every life has value. We need to step up our security and get angry- NO MORE acts of terrorism at our airports!
Who is in charge of screening passengers departing for the U.S. from foreign airports? Does the TSA have control of those departure points? If not, how did the U.S. TSA drop the ball? And how can increasing security measures at US airports have any effect on what happens at foreign boarding points?
No Patrick, you personally did not start anything...but making judgements about people is what fuels hatred.
Your sratement "those who don't, won't" in relation to believing in God is judgemental and should be kept to yourself, not on this public blog. Heidi wanted to know YOUR fears of flying, not what you felt about those who don't have God in their hearts. I understand, your point, but you should not assume I or anyone else does not have God in their heart and you should also not assume God is a man especially since it is woman who has the birth rights to reproduce....i'm just sayin! :-)
We need to make sure current guidlines are met and background checks are accurate. That'd make me feel safe–not new rules
I fly allot between Canada and the US with flights to latin america and a few to the middle east. At this point it is no longer worth the hassle to fly. The security measures added today is not the answer. Continually reducing movement on the plane and access to your personal carry on in the last hour of flight is just stupid. The dangerous goods should not be there. The Problem is before you are on the plane, poor screening and poor attitudes of security and airport staff is the largest weak link. I would rather drive for a personal trip and use technology to have web meetings then be treated. I hope this kills the airlines, they need to smarten up. Keep dumping there stock, its the only thing we can do to make them listen.
I feel safe so fare .what I suggest is all flights specially from europ to the states need to be checked by american security
happy new year
This latest NW incident highlights the inadequacy of our security. All of the procedures are geared to finding metal objects but the latest attacks are explosive and chemical based. We have the machinery to scan bodies for hidden articles but probably because of rights groups, these can't be used. Our procedures are knee-jerk reactions to past events, not planning for future events. I resent having a stewardess escort me to the lavatory because that Nigerian had to go to the bathroom in the last hour of the flight. He could have done the same thing in the first hour and spared me the humiliation.
Some rules are ridiculous, eg. Aircrafts that have Aircraft Map display on screen are no longer allowed, which prevents suspects knowing aircraft position on Globe ... what difference does this make? It does not prevent them from blowing up the aircraft !
Sitting for last hour of flight, are you allowed to make attack during the 1st 2 hrs of flight ??!!
Nothing on Lap during last Hr ?!! If someone wanted to do most harm I would think it would be at cruising altitude.
They need to screen better, not make life harder in flight .
I havn't felt safe flying for some time now. The governments are unable to adequately control passenger and employee behaviou, and equally worrying, the flight safety regulators have hadtheir hands tied: they are not allowed to inspectactual planes - they are only allowed to examine airlines' maintenance logs, which of course, are easily doctored by people pressured and in cear for their livlihoods . I have no confidence in air safety, and it does adversely affect my willingness to fly
Immediately after 9/11, knowing that the 9/11 boys bought tickets and quietly boarded their flights, the U.S. Army was sent to patrol every airport hallway in jungle camouflage slinging automatic weapons. Because this totally missed the point, I felt much less secure knowing that our government was concentrate so much resource ineffectively, just for show. The same phenomenon is occurring today. For many people, being strapped in a chair with minimal leg room is a recipe for a life-threatening blood clot. A person's chance of getting deep vein thrombosis this way – or being an accidental victim of a drive-by shooting on the way to the grocery store – is likely at least 100 times higher than being killed by a terrorist plot on an airliner. Yes, I feel a lot less safe today – not because of terrorists, but because of our tendency toward dumb ineffective overreaction.
P.S. Why are you concerned what Detroit is doing to beef up security?
Thats where the plane Landed. Im more concerned what Nigeria, and Amsterdam are dng to beef up their airport secuity.
Heidi: I think that it is important to keep our eye on the ball here and note that the incident happened:
a) On a major holiday to create maximum distress and
b) Involved an organic explosive PETN that is detectable with a sniffer and not detected despite the availability of such devices.
I note in particular, the failure of the latter aspect and question what the authorities are going to do to correct this shortcoming.
I believe the U.S is over reacting again. This is an isolated incident. Meantime the new rules are affecting millionsof Americans.
You are afraid to walk across the street and paranoid. This fear will paralize your economy and damage the Airlines who are already losing billions.
Bad governance caused by fears of politicians, created by lawyers ready to pounce and worried about being blamed if something were to happen.
American are doing it to themselves. The Instigator won again!!!
Blaine Mitton, A Canadian worried about our neighbors
I don't feel any safer. I see another knee jerk reaction by TSA to increase our misery, yet do nothing to quell the types of terrorist acts committed. Increased bag checks does nothing for explosives worn on the body. It is completely ridiculous. At this point, the terrorists have won again. What we need is explosive sniffing dogs at the check points and at the gates. Dogs have proven effective in most all uses. Just their presence would serve as a deterrent. We can pay for the dogs by firing the excessive numbers of TSA agents that stand around doing nothing.
I personnally feel it is safe to fly, however, a lot more need to be done with screening bags,personnels, and electonics due to the event that hapen on the 25 Dec. 09. Bad guys are constantly developing new ways to hurt the general public so should security personnels. I feel carry on bag aboard plane be restricted to only people with kids, everyone else must check their luggage in.
Next trigger will be a cell phone, then a computer, and other little things allowed aboard the plane.
I fly a few times a month and I feel that passengers make it hard for TSA and airline employees to be able to screen passengers as thoroughly as they should. Passengers are always yelling about baggage policies or running late for a flight and trying to go to the front of the line to rush through security. Passengers are constantly raising their voices at Airline employees and TSA employees, making it harder for everyone focus on their job. If passengers would just stop trying to argue about policies, arrive to the airport early enough to anticipate long lines, and stop disrespecting Airline and TSA employees...it would make it a little easier for those employees to concentrate on important issues and do their job.
I am a flight attendant with American Airlines and as far as Air Marshalls on board there needs some changes. Currently when there are Marshalls on board there are 2 of them that sit in first class to watch a breech of the cockpit. They have earphones in their ears.. watching a movie.. and even when the cockpit door opens to let the pilots go to the lav's.. they rarely look forward to notice what is going on.
The threat now are people in coach.. pulling stunts like what happened on Christmas Day. Be in coach cabin and take care of the terrorists there
I feel totally safe while flying and I'll tell you why;
After the airlines got that great bailout (most people forgot) they've improved planes and security. Yet these "threats" never hit any small towns, where I mostly travel. Terrorism is started to become bluff-ism.
I would also like to add that those disgruntled passengers should have the police called on them every time they raise their voices. It should not be tolerated in such a high security environment.
I will feel safer when like most of asia EVERY passenger
And hand luggage gets a pat down before getting on board (this is after regular security) regardless of sex, race and country of national origin. There are no additional delays as this is standard practice and all passengers are aware.
I feel safe only because there are THOUSANDS of flights each week.How many times do you run into a terrorist? Not very many times.
If we think that an airline security department full of morbidly obese octogenarians will protect us from radical fundamentalists is absolutely rediculous. Between the gangbangers the government hires to those who can barely walk across the terminal floor, we couldn't spot a terrorist if they were wearing a sign.
There is a higher risk while you are in a car. This man may have caused a security scare but it is not such an event to make people reconsider air travel. There are thousands of flights every day and we get scared when one is threatened by a bomber or by a emergency.
I feel very safe when I fly, but I do think that security can be improved without further imposition on the traveling public.
The TSA has been well aware of this sort of attempt to bring explosives on a plane for years. This incident was a variation on the shoe bomber. Why doesn't every airport have explosive sniffing technology? Because the risk is much less than the cost of the equipment.
I am a Nigerian and this is an usual case. I will like to use this medium to appeal to all Americans not to use this case as a bad rep to all Nigerians. You and I know how people stereotype people in cases like this. Nigerians are loving and caring people. Keep in mind there are American born terrorist.
I travel to Nigeria every year, and I will always feel save flying.
And my last thought on the issue is that there should be drug and bomb-detecting dogs at every security check point.
I think that the new in flight rules are of no value. What would it do to stop someone from doing something during the rest of the flight. If you really want to stop on board mischief you would have to strap every one to their seat by both their feet and hands with on carry ons. But a better ideal is to make sure no terriorist get on board and that all items place on the plane or safe. Which no one could promise to be 100%.
There needs to be more consistency with the quality of screening and security through out the world. I've flown to 45 different counties and in my opinion the only thing that is consistent is the hassle.
Dan..the pink elephant you refer to:
The 9/11 flights originated IN the US...
To "MR Wolf, you're a idiot for suggesting our country MUST outlaw Islam to survive apparently the wrong thing was amputeed.
If either of you have another thought..just let it go...
Why do reporters stand outside in the cold at Detroit? It looks silly.
I might feel somewhat more safe when flying if I knew how many potential terrorists had been detected and stopped from flying in the last year by federal officials. Insight into success of present security measures would be helpful news.
You just said that the plan to carry out a terrorist action was foiled, signaling an opinion, it seems, that some element of our good government and airline employees, as well as those traveling on the plane, worked. Yet earlier this morning you made an issue out of the Secretary's comment that "the system worked." You took her comment out of context twice, and then made a comment about expecting more from "the system" 8 years later.
Your commentary is inconsistent. Would you please clarify your position?
I feel pretty safe flying, as a matter of fact, my husband and daughter will be traveling to the Caribbean next month, i feel confident knowing that everyone is doing their part to create air safety. We should stop blaming and pointing fingers, and help to maintain safety for all.
I think everyone is missing the point. This was obviiously a "dry run" to test the system and a successful one. The minute he was able to get on that plane with the explosives, the game was over.
It's not going to matter if he acted alone or if he is part of a larger group. Our security failed to stop this breach.
You better believe that the terroists are taking note.
Santa Maria, CA
If you don't mind taking your car out of the garage, you shouldn't mind flying!
Yes, air travel accidents, especially if terrorism is suspected, are a lot more publicized and "newsworthy" than car accidents. . .
But we should all remember that the likelyhood of dying or being severely injured in a car accident within 50 miles of our home is many times greater than the likelyhood of becoming the victim of an air travel accident, especially one triggered by a terrorist attack.
In reality, the worth thing to fear. . .is fear itself!
I am curious to know what is Saudi Arabia doing to fight terrorism in Yemen?
Our Security Requirements were well and good. The problem with them are the relaxed irresponsible people carrying them out. I am mot saying that ALL TSA people are lazed, just there are some who do not take their job seriously. More stringent rules is not the answer but rather, better employees who appreciate their job and realize the seriousness in it.
Why does our government always have a knee jerk reaction to security issues and go for the low hanging fruit to make us feel that they are making us safe? Why are they clamping down on US Domestic passengers? Are they forgetting that Abdulmutallab originated form Nigeria?
There's the threat Janet, why don't you focus your attention and energy there on the real threat and not on Grandma in Idaho. The real security issue here is that our government is so broken.
I feel very safe when I fly in the US, but I'm confused as to why no one in the media has put more focus on the TSA counterpart in Amsterdam. The woman interviewed by HLN said she wan't even asked to remove her shoes! Yet everytime I fly I have derobe jackets, hats, scarfs and even sunglasses. SO, WHY ARE WE TIGTHENING THE REQUIREMENTS HERE WHEN THE FLIGHT ORIGINATED OVERSEAS.
A simple security solution: Train dogs on jet way and those passengers who do not pass the smell test make a u-turn and go back for further screening. Please get this message to the proper authorities.
There's something the matter with a security system that "randomly" targets me, a Caucasian grandmother, for an intensive search of my person and luggage, and confiscates some jam that my sisster's granddaughter made for me as a threat to my fellow passengers. This charade, done in the name of avoiding "profiling," did not make me feel safer, and I think we need to drop it in favor of more informed searches based on the passenger's past travel and associations.
I fly over 50,000 miles per year and feel perfectly safe, however, more ofen than not, I'm sent through extra security at the airport. I've been told this happens by the gate agents because I have too common an anglo name. I guess middle aged business men with last names like Smith, Jones and Williams are considered a security risk?
I do not feel safe flying. We let a terrorist who gave classic signs of such, get thru screening, board, and without the intervention of passengers and crew, would have killed almost 300 people. We need reviews but we need competence. And until that goal is reached, I suggest in addition to instruction time on using a seat belt that we also include time on steps to take if you see suspicious behavior, including how to subdue a passenger.
The security breach is not at US or Amsterdam .It happened in Nigeria. Nigeria is a country that you can carry anything on the plane as long as you can bribe the your way in Nigeria and this is a boy that came from a family that has the money just to do that at any cost..Also once he got on the plane he did not get out of the Airport in Amsterdam. If he had gone out from the airport during the three hour lay over he could have been detected. What American need to concentrate on is to set their on security in Nigeria as we all know how corrupt that country is. If they fail to do that this will continue to go on as the Northern part of the country is now a breeding ground for all these stupid fundamentalist.
Safety is all in what your mind will handle. Any time anywhere something, can and will happen, know matter what .News media just makes it more fearful.We all need to relax .Ask people that live in large cities how safe they feel, with night time shootings,rapes and,burglar's.Every night citizen are at risk across America.It's safer to be in the air than on the ground any day.
The terrorist have us exactly where they want us, they want us fearful. A man control you when you are fearful of him. I wan't let them control me. A little skinny kid from Africa is now controling millions of travelers around the world, there is something fundamentally wrong with that. We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
What happened is definitely an unfortunate tragedy which should never have happened. Hope this is an isolated incident because Nigerians condemn terrorism. The US also needs to help nigeria fight terrorism in the predominantly muslim part of northern nigeria where about 13 states have sharia laws.
Interesting. Your expert says these explosives are not detected with a metal detector. Overseas has different standards (ICAO) than in the US.. the guy is ON a terror list... the Brits do not share the info... According to the web and news, TSA would not be able to have caught the guy anyway. Why are we wasting out tax dollars. I think airplane security is much better than before, but how much money has been wasted by TSA and DHS? While I am glad no one was hurt... what will it take for the TSA and DHS to wake the heck up? ANOTHER plane going down? We, The People... DEMAND ANSWERS!!!!!!
I would feel better if we replaced the traditional flight attendant with active duty Marines or Ultimate Cage Fighting champions. Sure, they might look a little odd at first... And the preflight briefing might be a bit more concise "Listen Up Passengers! Sit down, buckle up and shut up!"
It's not really a matter of feeling safer when I fly it's a matter of shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted. Stop and look back at everything that happened with the airlines in the 60,s, 70,s and 80,s now nobody is saying that what happened on Sept. 11th wasn't a horrific thing but what about beefing up security during all the hijackings before that happened if they had maybe it wouldn't have happened at all.
Posted comment: ***Heidi for days CNN and other networks have covered the NWA bomber story and to date not a mention about using Voice Stress Analysis. Check out what El Al uses in Israel, the US needs to profile. We should allow the TSA to deny the effectiveness of this program. *** I am a CVSA Examiner, and "they" could care less!!!
Anyone that knows anything about defense knows that the battlefield is fluid and you will never predict every threat. The fact people are afraid shows their apparent lack of perspective. Switching to driving increases your risk of injury and death by a long shot. We as humans and especially Americans who identify with our sense of entitlement and individual power (which is consequently the reason why these 'crazy' terrorists dislike us, among other things) simply have a difficult time with the notion of loosing control, and so we feel safer driving. Coupled with disgusting eating habits, stress loads and horrible ignorance of a great many things as Americans, we have much more important things to be concerned about than the off chance of being blown up by a terrorist. We are much more likely to die on the slab getting our gastric bypass, or liposuction, or possibly congestive heart failure from our ridiculous diets and stress (from worrying about terrorists), and from hitting something with our vehicles while being distracted by one of the five million things we pay attention to while driving other than driving itself, than we are to die from terrorist. But I agree, be very afraid it seems to be patriotic, it helps the news anchors and fear based businesses employed and the fear based economy needs a boost.
If you're asking do I feel safe or safer due to all the restrictions put in place since 2001 my answer would be, no. The problem we continue to have is not with the people who SHOULD be on planes, it's with the people who are slipping through all security measures even though they're on some restricted list. Allowing passengers to carry on only 3 oz. bottles, taking away blankets and all the other ridiculous changes put in place has not and will not deter a terrorist.
I fly as little as possible now and pray before getting on a plane hoping someone looking to cause problems has not been allowed to get on with me.
I feel very safe when I am flying because I subject matters of flight safety on God's protection and that has never and will never fail.
Human systems can only provide so much and that is what we've seen in this incidence with the guy sneaking through all the sophisticated systems.
I could also see God mightily at work here, otherwise how can it be explained that whatever the guy was trying to detonate did not work? That probably explains why it was reported that this guy was stunned afterwards!
More importantly though, I would expect someone to be bold enough to admit that the US embassy in Nigeria dropped the ball by treating the information provided by the suspect's father lackadaisically. The truth is that the embassy in Nigerian is known to treat Nigerians with disdain and so such information wouldn't have been treated with the seriousness it deserves coming from a Nigerian.
My viewpoint on this was confirmed from the reports relayed this morning that US authorities were questioning why Britain did not provide information of their concerns when the suspect was placed on their terror watchlist earlier this year. In other words, there was no confidence placed in the concern received from the suspect's father for the appropriate action to have been taken by barring the guy from attempting to fly to the US.
***December 28th, 2009 9:31 am ET Heidi: My husband is a pilot for a major airline at IAD. He complains that TSA employees are allowed to pass through security without screening. When asked why this is allowed he is told "the new badges set off the alarms." My husband is flying the airplane and is required to have all his bags searched every time he enters the airport. He is furious that TSA employees are walking past security. He complaints have fallen on deaf ears. Maybe today with all the coverage of the latest attempt on the flying public, someone will finally check into this situation.*** NOT TRUE. I have seen male pilots drop their pants and whine at various check points because "I am the pilot and can crash the plane if I want. Why Do I have to be screened?"
As a frequent international flyer, I see shortcomings in the so called state of the art computerized tracking system used by Homeland Security, when checking into International flights, this system is highly flawed.
If you ask a question about it , you are looked upon as suspect.
Like most people, I worry more about the age of the plane, and whether the airline is cutting back on maintenance to save money.
But about this terrorist in Detroit, I have three questions I have not seen addressed.
1. If the plane was descending for its landing, it may have been below 12,000 feet. Why would someone intent on blowing a hole in the plane wait for that time. It would work better at higher altitude. The logic hear is missing something?
2. Is there any indication that he learned any loopholes from the security information that was accidentally given out over the internet by the Dept of Homeland Security 2 weeks ago?
3. Why can't airlines do what restaurants do, and post a notice that "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason"?
Whether they smell bad, act belligerent, or appear on some watch list, or whatever, laws should be changed to permit airlines and airport security to place legal preference on security first. Currently the system seems too afraid of lawsuits for discrimination.
*** Evelyn December 28th, 2009 9:48 am ET
And would you believe, when I drop off three kids at the airport whom are traveling alone, TSA gives me a hard time about giving my husband and I each a gate pass so that we can accompany all three children to the gate. They give only one gate pass....That is so unfair....Kida want to say goodbye to both parents....and it's hard to choose which one of us will go thru. But it"s so easy for these terrorist to get thru our gates with explosives on their bodies....You figure*** It is NOT TSA that gives the gate pass... IT IS THE AIR CARRIER !
Based on her interview, I would fire Napolitano and then would look to fire the person who hired her. Her boyish looks don't make me feel more secure, but I assume that's how she got the job. Start hassling the arab and muslim men who commit these acts. Now that we have a live suspect, prosecute him legally, then show the world how we HANG someone who tries such a thing. Without a quick trial and execution-the rest of his allies laugh at us.Frankly, I would like to slice his head off on live t,v. PROFILING should be the first security measure and a liberal like Napolitano will never understand that.
All planes entering US airports from foreign countries should adhere to the same boarding searches as planes leaving the US airports do.Better yet what if a system is developed that targets all passengers as potential terrorists ( I am not saying all passengers are terr. But the system developed will be enhanced ) and implement that system to work expeditiously.Deny boarding to passengers carrying restricted items,regardless of how harmless they think it is.This would make people more conscious of carry on rules and restrictions.
The bottom line is this; real safety in the skies means real inconveniences and thorough preboard security.
Airport security is a joke. As a wearer of a pacemaker. I carry an I.D. card that states my name and model number of the pacemaker. Because of the pacemaker, I can't go through the scanner and I am directed to a area for a pat down procedure, When informing people that I am wearing this device, I take out my card to show them. On three occasions, no one examined my card and the pat down was almost non existent. I called the TSA earlier this year, telling them that I felt a photo on the I.D. card should be required and the pat down procedure was lax in my opinion. I was told that they felt the photo I.D.
was not necessary. So much for security.
*** Joe December 28th, 2009 10:11 am ET
Where's the beef? All this talk about beefing up and ramping up security at airports – why not just do it right the first time? Ramp up to your highest level and keep it there. How much more beefing up has to take place before we all feel safe? *** GOOD QUESTION. You want it "beefed up?" What are you willing to allow to be screened? Groin checks like law enforcement? TSA is NOT law enforcement. We HAVE what the American public WANTS and WILL allow.
Based on the over-reaction to this incident by Homeland "Security" I am thankful that the individual didn't hide the explosive material in his under pants. Imagine that line when you check in for a flight!
The terrorist are more clever than we think. They are on the offensive side and we are on the defensive. They are always trying new tricks and new plans that we do not expect. At the time we discover their new plans and attempts it might be too late.
December 2008 during my flight from Shanghai to Detroit by NW, I had a small bottle full of water which was not detected when I passed the security check in both Shanghai and Narita airport. Or, may be they detect it but they did not bother themselves. (I am not sure).
December 2009 during my direct flight from Shanghai to Detroit by Delta airlines, I had two small bottles of water, I passed the regular security check. Before entering the aircraft tunnel, there was a secondary check for the carry on bags and they found only one of the bottles, at that time I informed them I have another one.
Frankly to say, I do not feel safe when I fly from China or Japan back to Detroit due to not secure check.
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An area to look at is to recruit few good security personnels, have them think of different ways to smuggle things (anything that could be used to hurt people aboard a plane) through screening check point. Have them go through screening to see if it will be detected, if it doesnt get detected, have the screening authorities find a way to prevent it from going through screening without being detected. The bottom line is we need to think ahead of these bad guys.
I find it shocking and appalling that some Nigerian man could get on a plane and threaten to blow up an airplane in the United States. I thought we would be safer nowadays but I guess not, it do this country a world of difference if we made it tougher for people to get on a airplane, do extrodianary searches, etc.... This is a must because our country is at risk once again and we need to be on high alert.
Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)
How do these people with "red flags" get visa's when my mother-in-law and other non-threat travelers get denied! airport security is one thing but visa's and watchlist issues are another...and you don't hear about that.
I want to comment on airline security. It appears to me that this recent airline event could have been prevented providing the government would have done its job in scrutinizing the handling of visas. To what degree are we willing to go in order to be “politically correct?”
It seems like if the homework had been done adequately by our government agency handling visas, this airline event would not have occurred.
It doesn’t seem to be fair to airline passengers to be punished with more onboard rules when pre-boarding measures can be taken and I believe this point needs to be analyzed more closely.
Thank you for listening to a typical airline passenger.
Since the first person flew through security with no problems with something suspicious which could have gotten on a plane and you aired it during the 8 years of the Bush administration, I have not felt secure at any airport or airplane.
Since the first person got through the 'Do Not enter' door at the airport without anyone catching him until he brought it to the security attention and you aired it on television during the 8 years of Bush, I have not felt secure at any airport.
Yet even though the above occurances happened more and more, all that was done was the individuals, who were trying to bring the lack of security to the attention of the authorities, were just arrested.
Yep, not one thing was done to Improve the airport security during the Bush administration.
So why get mad now? Why didn't you get mad before? Republicans had 8 years to perfect it. Why didn't they?
Every time I see the Homeland Security Secretary interviewed,
I feel less safe. This person seems to be dumber than a box of rocks.
I flew from Seattle to Detroit on Sunday December 20th on American Airlines( flight #1442), with a layover in Chicago (flight#4202). Sa we were boarding the young man next to me started conversing about our destinations. He was traveling from New York with a layover in Detroit and then on to Dallas. He was extremly confused as to why I was going to Detroit and on a plan bound for Dallas. He showed me his ticket which clearly said he should be on a different plane. Although one would think he would have realized his mistake prior to boarding, one would also assume the airline scanner would have caught this. I wonder how and why this fella got on this flight. In retrospect I and the other passengers around me should have ask that all passengers on the plane be rechecked for security reasons. How foolish are we to have let that plane take off knowing that our own safety could have been at risk. We all assume the airlines are safe and we are protected by scanners and beefed up security. I appreciate all that is being done to insure our safety but feel quite foolish for not speaking up for myself as well as the other passengers on flight 4202. Thanks be to God, we were not another headline.
Being 30,000 feet in our atmosphere on a jetliner carrying 126000 pounds of aviation fuel not to mention people, baggage, usually cruising around 600 MPH is dangerous! Remember, car accidents kill many more people than airliners. So are you going to stop driving a car? You can hide in your home, become agoraphobic and still strangle to death on a piece of toast! Should we tighten up security, ((Yes)) But to prevent people from going to the bathroom an hour before they land is just ridiculous. The bombers can just get their bomb ready earlier. You are only stressing out the elderly and people with urine control issues. To be honest with you, the OVER reaction is more of a concern to me than anything else. Just be aware of your surroundings and remain calm. I am planning a flight to Shanghai soon, and I will be no more worried than usual.
I hate to say it, but if the government don't do these stupid steps the GOP will cry and cry.I hear it day in day out.I guess they forgot, they had time to do something years ago.
If there was a list, we as americans should make every day sure, that is checked. This in the time of technology should have never happend. Homeland security will say, its not our fault, because he originated from another country. The people at Homeland Security in charge of these lists need to be fired. Flag the computers, so if there is a name coming up under suspicion, that person should not have been allowed on a flight to the USA. If we give people visas, they should be checked, especially after his family went to the Amercan embassy to tell them about their son. Do not blame other countries for the Homeland Security failure. Ms. Napolitano is as much to blame then her underlings. When she said this morning the staff and passengers acted accordingly, who is she to say, that we as passengers have to hold terrorists, if her employees cannot do it, why should the passengers do Homeland Securities JOB. They all should not get paid, because of their FAILURE. These people in charge are losers.
Let's stop all the news coverage with pictures of the attempted bomber from the jetliner, and lets show the photo of the young man who leapt over the seats to tackle him. Lets talk about the passengers who bravely put a stop to him.
Stepping up security in the US is not going to make anyone safer, it will just irritate and frustrate people. The point that US security is missing is that the last flight that carried a terrorist came in from Amsterdam and that is where the problem is. I was in Europe this summer, Amsterdam included and anyone could have brought anything into the airport and onto the plane, especially if you are a pretty girl. I was shocked and upset over the lack of security in Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Antalya Turkey, etc.
Fixing things at home isn't going to change anything overseas, and the attacks will continue.
P.S. Funny, how in North American you can't fly and have to undergo so many security checks if you have a minor criminal record, however, someone with known terrorist ties can move around the world freely, Maybe we are doing something wrong on this continent.
How did this man get on the flight with obvious explosive materials? That one question that stands out. Are we letting our guard down and security becoming less pressing? Is there some sort of confusion in the process? Do screening points need assistance? Is screening overwhelmed in the crush of busy travel? Is anyone watching the process on a daily basis as far as back up?
I think President Obama like all of us is deeply appreciative of everyone on the the northwest flight who helped to stop this possible terrorist incident. He probably can't thank them enough. That's how I feel.
While we need better equipment, better identification of potential terrorists, and sky marshals on all international flights ' all we are likely to get are longer lines and more harassment to perpetuate the illusion that safety is adequate.
Why can't the U.S. implicate a new rule that no one can walk up to a ticket counter and purchase a ticket to fly immediately. Why can't there be a 24 hour delay so everyone can be checked thru all the databases world wide even before they board a plane. When they do get thru security with the bomb device with them, then with all the information security can now meet them at the gate for another body check before he/they/or she can board the plane.
reply to Angie: I would assume The republicans" didn't make us safer because "The LIBERAL democrats" won't allow us to do what we need. We need to PROFILE. There is a specific, definitive suspect who blows up planes. Yes it happens to be young arab muslim males. I have no problem turning them all upside down and inside out. Instead of muslims getting upset and running to lawyers and courts over descrimination-they should be the voice that demands that their"relatives and brothers" stop the radical ways. If you are muslim and do not actively denounce the terrorism–then you get tipped upside-down everywhere you go in MY country, as a possible terrorist yourself. The minute the enemy looks like me–tip me upside down too.
I avoid flying at all costs. The only way I fly these days is if I absolutely have to, and there is no other way to get to my destination. My preference is to drive when ever possible. My VW Jetta TDI gets more than 50 mpg on the highway.
Actually, now, I do...feel safe!
The media has put such a spotlight on the issue that everyone cannot not be more alert. In this matter, it behooves us all to be ever watchful and ever 'awake' to the reality of this global concern, in my view.
All passengers should be placed in tubes and drugged so that they will be asleep for the duration of the flight. Nobody should be turned away because of ethnicity or other profiling. Nobody should be violated by a search. Just line up for a shot, a gurney should be provided that would slide into the tube. The tube is closed and stacked with others bound for various destinations. Tubes can withstand any sort of detonation and absorb percussion or seal in any gases. Everybody is safe and rights are not violated.
I'm so frustrated that these terrorists are controlling our lives,,Why are we changing everything we do just to give in to them,,Where is our great CIA,and Homeland Security,,Maybe we should hire these terrorist to manage our Air space because they seem to be doing a better job
getting our attention,,I wonder what their budget is,,,Since they have made us spend so much in our security and here we go again to spend on more equipment and manpower.....They seem to be doing job at disrupting of economy........Why as Americans are we continuing
to bow to these terrorists,,,,,,what will we do next.....In order to fly,,By the way we will have to discontinue drinks at airport terminal and no drink on flights,,,Because I for one i always go to the bathroom before we land and others as well,,,,,
It hasn't been mentioned yet, but, this man got all the way through to detonation with this bomb. The only thing that saved these people was that the bomb misfired. Otherwise, it would have been all over!
Yes, we need tighter security.
All hoestly I really don 't feel comfortable when I fly. when i fly i constantly watch people of suspension. We as a nation I think we get to trusting and forget about the safety of the nation. i don't care who the person you should not be able to just walk up to a ticket counter and request a ticket especially when the persoan pays cash.
We, family of 4 from The Netherlands, were on our way to visiting relatives in Detroit. We were sitting directly behind Abdulmutallab (row 20A/B en 21B/C) so saw all what happened first hand. We thought at the time that someone used a firecracker as some sort of misplaced joke. Only later did we hear the true story.
Frankly, it has ofcourse terrified us and we keep on thinking about it, and what might have happened, constantly. I personally have to fly frequently on international flights and will certainly not do this so light heartedly anymore as I used to.
Without speaking to them about this, as we want to try and bury this ordeal as soon as possible, this will certainly also count for my wife and children.
So yes, I certainly will feel less safe on future flights, no matter what the security precautions are because, in my opinion, you can never rule out 100% that some maniac does not bring some sort of exploding device on board.
a,Jones from texas says drug us and put us in tubes. That is so moronic and just your way of ignoring the facts. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE ENEMY and they have no rights. If i were in a muslim country they would highly scutinize me, so I say do it to them. It's time to start hauling these losers out of their mosques and get rid of them. These losers are all around you and your moronic ideas only make it worse for all of us. You want to protect their rights, then remember which side you have chosen because the time of regular Amercans to control them is coming and people like you will drop with them. I can't even believe you live in Texas. There is a civil war brewing between red and blue and your blue shirt will get you hurt.
Instead of subjecting millions of innocent people to invasive procedures, shouldn't we concentrate on the known entities? It seems that for the most part, these terrorist activities are carried out by people who are on some watch list. I have no objection to grounding them forever. This would be much easier than going after millions of innocent civilians.
We just need to do what Israel does and it works, we need to profile. I'm latino, it is not fair that we all pay the price when certain and specific beliefs want to hurt us.
Body scans are better then body searches and I wouldn't mind it as long we have a safe flight. Profileing wouldn't hurt either. This politically correctness junk has gone too far and can get us all killed if we don't start using some common sense.
It is not Security first then Privacy, they must coexist. I am all for security but when even your private part is not off limit, it means that the terrorists may have won at redefining one of the American core values.
As a firefighter and frequent traveler I find no reason NOT to do a full body scan if available. If someone does not want to do one there are plenty of car rental agencies at airports so they can drive.
I also find it deplorable that emergency seating is usually given to someone who cannot physically perform the functions necessary in that seat. This is not a game and we as a society tend to forget that very quickly. We need to stop being so politically correct. I am sure relatives of a dead family member feel much worse if a profile could have prevented an incident. Flying is not a given right or privilege it is a paid service. If you don't like the requirement don't fly.
I will tell you that if the public took the time to do a bit of investigation they would be shaking in their shoes to find out that since 911 so many of the recommendations and procedures are still not in place. This is a fact, not speculation the system is still very weak. I spoke with Tom Ridge a few years ago and he agreed with me. If a fraction of the bank bail out money was spent to fix the system we all would be much safer.
I believe that the virtual body scan, while providing more security, will also violate people's privacy. I also believe that this violates the Fourth Amendment, No search and seizure without a warrant.
I usally travel with my kid who is one year old and it is so much time consuming in the airport , missed flight several times. In my opinion TSA is reacting to an incident instead of proactive
Thanks to a "peace loving" ideology; body scans and other security measures are great to keep the peace out! Everytime we get a full body scan, search, etc....and no matter how inconvenient please, remember the people we want to keep out of our space.
Its time to take the war on terror to the remainder of the terrorist world.......! We need to take out the people trying to take us out!
Privacy vs. Safety/Survival.......?
These measures are such a joke to the tsa they put them in place then a few months later they are so lacked then a incident happens then they bring them back up. They now are saying no getting up an hour before the flight lands what about the half hour before that hour is in place. Was the guy with the explosive shoes standing at the time if he was i sure he didn't have to be for the shoes to go off nor with the this last person. Sounds like we are on our way to sit in your seat and have the seat belts not unbuckle till the flight ends.As soon as the plane takes off nowadays people can wait to get out their seats and these are suppose to be the "ok" people and the stewards cant control them. But, in all reality the gov't get so relaxed after a certain point and budget concerns are the main cause and they start pulling things away then a problem like this occurs and they put things in place.
Terrorists love our media – we give them so much free air time. They even show how the bombs are made!!!
Solution: Any story about terrorism should include some facts about teh insanity and inhumanity of such actions. They should emphasize how foolish and counterproductive these acts are which create millions of enemies of whatever cause the terrorist claims to be supporting. It should point out the unbalanced psychological profiles of these people and their short sighted thinking. In short – make them look foolish and cowardly – two things most terrorists don't want to look like.
Terrorists love our security at the airports – it reminds people everyday to be afraid of them, EXACTLY what they want.
Solution: make security low key – make some searches random but search EVERYONE who fits the national and cultural profiles of almost 100% of terrorists – regardless of race. Since nationality and culture do not equal race but rather ways of thinking, it is not racial profiling.
As it stands, passengers must intervene to quell criminals on flights. Is that the way we want to live? Scanning absolutely every person and airline employee going thru airport gates makes a lot of sense to me.
Ok for body scan. Is that it ? What's next, because there will be a next.
Why not concentrate on the common denomenator ? Afraid to look into that ?
Again, I do feel safer in a geneal way. What I mean to say is that I, myself, have not recently flown, though my loved one have for work and social reasons and I don't fear for their safety any more than I do if they are on the highway driving. That doesn't mean that I don't fear for others around the world, esp. soldiers & journalists & other civilians in certain real hot spots around the globe.
What moved me to blog, in part, was viewing what Heidi read on the air yesterday about the relative of the 9/11 victim not wanting anyone to go through what her family went through. Also, today, the person who shared that their family was on that flight. I would place far more value on their accounts than some other bloggers – like the one above from Texas who should really be writing science-fiction – though of course everyone is free to express their opinion.
I really valued watching the CNN shows yesterday ( e.g. Larry King Live & AC 360 ), though I can't get my mind around thinking of global terrorism as crabgrass, and hearing different points of view. But if it's not a real war, as President Bush & company made us all see, but rather a law enforcement issue, then I suggest someone change the defn, in a big way, of what law enforcement is. I don't think the law enforcement community would consider the whole globe as part of their jurisdiction!
Yes I would, no problem, but this plane was arriving, is the U.S. going to pay for these in all the airports where flights will be arriving to U.S.??????????????? Mike.......Illinois
Why are people blaming the President for this terror scare? I mean I know he's at the top of the food chain, so ultimatly it's President Obama's responsibility. But what about airport security? Didn't that man's parents report him to the American Embassy? What's wrong with the Embassy people?! I think the public should be reacting to that instead of misplacing "blame"
Why would you not submit to a body scan? Flying already requires us to give up some civil liberties. I would agree with the masses, in that there needs to be some sort of anonymity when the scan is done (ie does the scanner sit obscured from seeing the actual person, but rather sees just the scan).
I think it is entertaining that people feel 'violated' by the scan rather than wanting to not only 'feel' safe, but 'be' safe by submitting to the scan. I typically fly twice a month for business and understand it is all part of the game. I feel as though the people that feel in violation are those that are not used to air travel and that it is somehow the same as hopping in their personal car.
My anxiety goes through the roof just thinking of going to an airport. No, I'm not afraid of flying. In fact, I could stay up there all day. It's worrying that the book I'm reading or the water I'm drinking or the nail file I forgot in my purse or some other innocuous item will be thought of as pro-terrorist or a weapon and I'll end up in some backroom getting strip and cavity searched. You have done well putting fear into us. The thing is, I am more afraid of being deemed a terrorist for no reason, like the person on flight 253 #2, than of terrorists. I don't even know how to tell a terrorist because the official description is they are brown people from other countries (at least originally) who hate American and how we operate around the world. Um, that's pretty vague and describes much of America who truly love this land and hate where it's headed. The reality seems to be that anyone could be a terrorist if they read the wrong book or say the wrong thing. And why the hell do you pull people from the terminal and search them right in front of everyone? A stunt like that, going from person to person at the terminal searching their bags and asking for pockets to be emptied, caused me to panic so badly that I could not fly. I am American in love with her country but shouldn't this all be done behind the scenes so as not to worry others? Shouldn't we never hear about a terror attack or an attempt because they are doing their jobs so well we think we live in peace?
it comes right back to people in the u.s.a. not wonting to do there job
I have in the past flown many miles, but not once since 9/11 NOT because of a fear of terrorists or flying. The inconvenience and inappropriate authority given to security to provide a false sense of making folks "FEEL" safer is not worth it. In the long run Home Security may prove to be far more dangerous than the terrorists.
well said Malynda – Our own government is causing us more fear than the terrorists – security should be kept low key and behind the scenes.
I think not being able to use the restroom for the last hour of a flight is ridiculous, what about those people who have anxiety and need a restroom on a moments notice. What about children who can't wait.
I think traveling by air is getting more and more inconvenient and yet I am paying more for my ticket. You have to remove your shoes to get on a plane, you have to be patted down if your the unlucky number .....passenger, you starve on the flight if you didn't have time to bring a meal with you or you can pay $15 or more for a piece of fruit and some crackers. Now you can't use the restroom when you may need it. This is just getting crazy...
How do we protect ourselves against drunk drivers? I could leave to go get lunch and be killed by a drunk driver. Should we have an officer stand out side our homes or bars or restaurants and inspect us before we drive home to our next place we want to go? That's crazy huh?
Life has risks everywhere and we can not protect ourselves from them all. I think we should not let a few people dictate what the majority can do and how we can do it.
Let's start calling the latest terrorist " freak" instead of his birth name. I am so glad his attempts failed and exploded in his pants. I hope he's unable to use those parts for a very long time. And let's talk about what a hero his father is and what kind of courage it must have taken to notifying authorities about his son. I'd like to nominate his father for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Maybe If airlines give people a choice to go on a flight that passages get xrayed on one flight and the other not.We'll see which one gets filled first.
I agree with you, Sally! But instead of being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm afraid the father of this misguided young man may become the target of terrorists himself!
This whole terrorist issue is there to stay. And there is NO fool proof way to assure anyone's safety!. . .so, it's time to remember that, in the United States, a little over 780 people died in inflight accidents since 2000 (yes, that includes 9/11 airliners!), while since 2005 ONLY. . .over 187,000 people died in car accidents in the U.S.!
It's time to put things in perspective. . .it doesn't mean ignoring the terrorist threats. . it just means doing our best, knowing that we just CAN'T stop them all!
Even body scans are not full proof! Next, the terrorists will use very obese people who will be able to hide exploding devices in the overly generous folds of skin!. . .Then what??? Flying naked?
Remember. . .780 airline fatalities (due to ALL airline accidents since 2000), compared to 187,000 traffic accident fatalities since 2005!
We're still safer flying than driving a car!
I have traveled around the world for more than 30 year on business, visited over 40 countries and have logged over 3 million flying miles on countless different airlines. I am astounded that 9 years after 9/11 the airplane cockpit doors in almost all US based flights are open during loading and off loading the passengers.
I flew on El-Al prior to 9/11 and even back then they secured the cockpit door PRIOR to loading and until off loading is COMPLETE. I guarantee you that this lapse in security will lead to a disaster at some point in the future.
I have communicated this concern to the FAA and several politicians in DC and received no reply. FAA must close this gap in flight security. It wont cost anyone anything to implement. Rather then wait for someone to take advantage of this gap before changing the protocol lets be proactive here.
PLEASE do something about this.
How safe do I feel when I fly?
For almost a full year the Republican Senators have blocked the top position of the TSA to be filled. That means there is No one at the helm of the Travel Security Agency. which also means that Our lives are in Danger everytime we enter an airport. and it means that we risk our lives everytime we fly.
The We all, including the Republican Senators, know that the Republicans have been playing Russian Roulette with American Lives by not allowing the Position to be filled at the Travel Security Agency. Yet we all pretend Not to know this. And we all Pretend that it does Not matter.
We just keep putting the Enphasis somewhere else.
If the Top position assigned by the President is Not filled at the Travel Security Agency, TSA, then where are his eyes and ears concerning the TSA? And who from the TSA communicates with the Rest of Homeland Security?
Thanks for the question
it time to x-ray everyone, or you don't fly, it's that easy.you fly or not.Do you care about living or not.Who really cares about what you look like on a x=ray.It's the way of the future because of 9/11. There's more to come so wake up.
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