It’s being called the toughest crackdown on illegal immigration in the country. A bill requiring police to determine if a person is in the U.S. legally is expected to be signed into law by Arizona Governor Jan Brewer.
Immigration advocate Isabel Garcia says the bill “legalizes racial profiling.” The author of the bill, state Senator Russell Pearce, says illegal is not a race – it’s a crime. Under the bill, police would be required to question anyone they suspect of being undocumented. The bill also targets those who hire illegal immigrant day laborers or knowingly transport them. Immigration advocates fear the Arizona legislation will set a precedent for other states.
We want to hear from you. What do you think of the legislation? Does it go too far or should other states follow Arizona’s lead?
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yet another case of simply walking/driving while brown is a crime. Outrageous, remind me NEVER go to Arizona!
Immigrants are not the problem, illegal immigrants are. I am extremely please that Arizona has the guts to do what the Federal government should have done a long time ago. Three cheers for Arizona and hopefully all states will step up to this challenge.
More incentive for law enforcement to harass and abuse anyone with an accent or whose skin is a shade darker than whitebread. Congratulations on giving legal sanctuary to prejudice, Arizona.
The AZ anti-illegal-alien bill is good. It will effectively protect our Mexican border from illegal aliens who are smuggling illegal drugs, murdering and threatening American citizens, and providing cover for anti-American Muslim terrorists.
Since when is it wrong to protect our own borderland, our own citizens and ranchers, and demand that the Law of the Land be obeyed?
I am ok with this to be honest yet hard to say .. if they are here illegally then they shouldn't be here in the first place. In our area jobs are hard to find because businesses are hiring illegal ppl to cut cost. Time to flush them out. I hate saying it but it's true.
This bill will only promote racial profiling and more law suits for the Police Department in this very difficult economy. I wonder why the State of Arizona Congress should pass this kind of heartless bill, I really feel for the Hispanic American Citizens- My loyal advice is if you are harrassed.....just sue the Police Department simple!
why do you think JD Hayworth is ahead of McCain in the polls there? he hates mexican immigrants, look at the polls, so do all of the AZ residents! finally the govt is standing up for its people by signing this bill. i know alot of people in AZ who would love for this bill to pass, and not letting the growing illegal population bully the american way of life down there.. i may move back now.. (no on can comment unless you live there, or somewhere like it.. otherwise, you guys have no clue..)
Hahaha. There is NO way this is constitutional. What happens when the cops stop a citizen and that person doesn't "have his papers?" I's too funny that the same teabaggers that are always going on about 'protecting our freedoms' are for a bill that allows cops to stop people and make them prove citizenship. LOL!
I'm a foreign born, green card resident, professor at an American university. Two weeks ago I was invited to lecture at an Arizona University. I will decline the invitation. I do not intend to risk being stopped or harassed by Arizona law enforcement just because I speak with an accent.
I think the bill is an improvement to the American economy. I have nothing against legals but illegals are the ultimate law breaker, they still others personal information and makes it theirs which is fraud and forgery, the outsource billions of dollars every year that isn't being circulated around the country, and they are using government benefits by having babies while our government is footing their bills through welfare and medicare when they haven't put anything into the system.
I can't wait for that billed to be signed and when other states take up the same legislation, this will be a start to end some of the economic crisis that the greatest country is facing.
Law is good, without it we will have chaos. In every part of society we should have good laws. No one is above the law immigrants or citizens, Rich or poor, white or non-white. But Ladies and Gentlemen read history very well almost every great nation falls from with inside out. It almost always begins with moral decline. Then when those wrong moral decisions begin to bring in their consequences we look for who to blame. The easiest people to blame are the weak, the poor and the strangers. Many of these strangers we are screaming for their blood literally eat off of the crumbs that fall off our tables, crumbs that not even our dogs would want to eat. Some of us spend more on our dogs in a month ( or even a week) than some of these people make in a year. And that is what pays the bill for their family here and for mom, dad, cousins, aunts, nephews, nieces, in-laws etc back home. This preacher is not advocating for lawlessness, God forbid, but we as a people are rapidly mutating from generous and kind Americans to wicked, selfish and seriously self-centered and fearful people. It is one thing to throw out vessels during a storm to lighten the ship and hope it will survive the lashes of the waves, but when you start throwing out people you are crossing a line that may never stop. To the citizens, lawmakers, the court and the executive office of Arizona and United States Of America: Be careful what you do with your illegal immigrants, do not tag them, bag them and throw them to the animal control because you have law on your side. The precedent you set today in your zeal to make and uphold this law will one day bring the same law to your own door step in a way you cannot possibly presently imagine. The word mercy is used for the weak, the undeserving and an even the guilty. Mercy does not condone crime but fines a way to punish crime or correct a person while being even more zealous to help and heal the broken life of the criminal. Not everything is black and white. A compassionate heart puts himself in other people's position before making judgments but a depraved heart displayed his folly especially when he has the law on his side. No German ever really thought of how far Hitler will go when he starting tagging Jews and prosecuting those that would seek to help them. Okay! I know this is different, yea its always different until it turns diabolical. Its always different if we are the ones on the other side of it. We are a wise people we can find ways to deal with our immigration issues without sending all immigrants to the gallows, all cases are not same. Beloved people we must be careful how you threat strangers because we are all strangers in God's world and God knows, some of us are illegal, we have regard for His laws. Selah
That bill is beyond wrong. Making one race of people carry identification is similar to early Nazi Germany and WRONG. Whats next putting all Mexicans on one side of town? and THEN we can tattoo numbers on them so the police, and employers can identify that they are legal???
It's about time the states became serious in dealing with illegal aliens.
This measure will go a long way in making Arizona a much less inviting place for those who flout our laws.
To all of those who say this is an open inviatation to racial profiling, I ask, have you read the bill? If not, please make a concerted effort to become informed on a subject before resorting to ad hominems and fear-mongering.
This will no more institutionalize racial profiling than the 287G training popular with many local police departments.
That racial profiling egg did not hatch, neither will this.
This bill is a wrong step in solving our immigration problem. Now, if you have a brown skin and you can't prove you identity, say you forgot your id at home, then you may get in trouble. It seems like Arizona denies its diversity and becomes unfriendly to people that look and speak differently. However, you can't suspect somebody to be illegal, on what grounds?
This bill is an experiment to see what's going to happen. Are the businesses going to grow in the state? What will be the tax revenue? Crime level change and so on. Well, let's experiment on those people, people that will have no other choice than going back to their countries, or moving to another state.
That's why we need a nationwide immigration reform. We need to decide what to do with illegal immigrants on a nation level and we can set any laws afterward.
Well I think that it's about time we do something to stop illegals from crossing the boarder. If only we stop ignoring existing laws then maybe these people will stop trying to come here illegally.
This bill is simply a shame!!!!
The burden that illegal immigrants place on every community is creating this response. The federal government has failed to secure our border and enforce current immigration laws. With over 12 MILLION illegal immigrants here, this problem is out of control.
Arizona is trying to do what they can to protect their citizens. Citizens have illegal immigrants in every school, hospital, jail and social service office. The community is stuck with the social issue and the cost because of federal inaction. We need the federal government to do it's job for the citizens of the USA and enforce federal immigration laws.
With so many citizens looking for work, why are we even debating this? This law is telling all workers and employers in AZ that there is ZERO tolerance for the employment of illegal immigrants. This will surely encourage employers to do what's right, hire americans and abide the law.
Can we all agree that American jobs should go to Americans?
Hell, the enforcement will be scant at best, if it's ever enforced at all. But it is a mighty threat on the books. Sign it Jan!
I am extremely appauled by this law, I came to this country illegally and was able to obtain papers through the Regan Administration (REPUBLICAN) amnesty program, I have since served in the US armed forces, graduated college and continue to be a productive member of this great country founded by immigrants. This bill is nothing more than fear of the growing diversity of this country. God help us rid ourselves of some much hate.
It's not just hispanics who should be worried. Anyone can be targeted with this new law. Caucasians could potentially be illegals from Europe or Canada, and once the police realize they have the authority to stop anyone, anytime, anywhere and demand their papers, you can be sure they will.
It's about time we in Arizona take our sovereign nation status serious.
White,Brown,Black,yellow ot purple. it doesn't matter.
Just because it is simple to get here doesn't make it a right. Take the right course and do it legally. if you can't do that then don't come.
try crossing the border into mexico,China, korea, any middle east country without the correct papers and see what happens to you.
Wake Up America.
Thank you for finally getting this done.
Those of you who really want illegals to keep coming, remember they are the ones that are draining the education and medical system. I live in AZ and we are sick of it...violence, drug wars, bleeding our systems. Don't come to AZ...there are too many people anyway! Let our state be the one to actu
Thanks, for comments D. Mazyck...you said it more eloquently than my rant. I get so tired of people thinking illegals have all our rights. We fought too hard for those rights and many have died. My last posting didn't get finished...I wanted to say that at least our state is repecting the existing law! Finally...now that Napalotano is gone. What a laugh that she is Homeland Security head. Too scary.
Well,finally someone in Arizona is standing up for AMERICA and it's immigration laws!If people want to come here that's fine,DO IT LEGALLY like my father did a long time ago.To those people who embrace illegals,let them live with you in your house at your expense!Stand up for your country people!!!!!
I want this law to come to new york. Illegal Immigrants are ruining this country. Legal immigration is something entirely different. Most of us in this country have ancestors that were at one time immigrants. We can not indiscriminately invite people into this country. There have to be limits on immigration or else the social fabric of our country will tear.
I am just asking for existing laws to be enforced!
Illegal is illegal. Illegals should have No Rights, illegals are not even suppose to be in this country. They cost USA tax payers Billions of dollars a year, in Hospitals, Jails, Schools, etc. If illegal aliens have a baby in USA, send the baby and parents back to their native country. When the child becomes 18 years old, the young adult can move to USA. Build Fences, big and strong ones, fast, patrol them, repair them.
Way to go Arizona. If the Mexican Government can't take care of their people too Bad. I dislike the fact that everything has be be in English and Spanish. When you call you receive a voice press 1 for english press 2 for spanish. Your in America speak English. Go to Mexico they don't do that for us. I had to learn to speak English in the first grade without the help of the school. I learned to speak English and made a great life for myself and served my Great Country in Viet Nam.
Bravo, mdiaz, for your accomplishments. This era is not the same as Reagan's. We also cannot keep taking in everyone that wants to be here illegally when so many of our citizens are hurting.
Shame on Arizona. They repeatedly remind us of their sad agena to nurture a one color, intolerant ideal. There is no place for this in a Great Nation.
It is absolutely imperative that we protect the American Citizen and while I lament that it has come to this process, it is necessary that we identify illegal aliens and deport them. The structure of American society is under attack. We must improve our educational system by removing those who don't belong, strengthen the benefit of our social services by restricting access to only the American citizen, protect and preserve the future of America by limiting population to only the American citizen, and restore respect and use of our laws by removing those who ignore our rights, our restrictions, and our legislative process. I strongly support the intent and application of the new law in Arizona – and hope to see even stronger steps taken throughout the United States to restore America to the American Citizen..
Good for you Marc. I can tell you are an illiberal liberal and as such were invited to speak only as you are a Liberal to begin with.
Good riddance from we real-life Arizonans. We don't need you, we don't want you, though we will gladly accept the thoughts, words and writings of anyone, Liberal or otherwise who comes to Arizona with an open, honest and objective mind.
Ask yourself, Marc, when was the last time you were in a gathering of Liberals where anyone of them could honestly make that claim of themselves or another Liberal they know?
As a test, simply mention the name Sarah Palin, and listen to the knee jerk verbal swill of vitriol that spills from the mouths of Liberal women who hate for for her courage to be a mother first, a woman second and a concerned citizen third.
Then, either stay home or go to a politically correct, Censorship-minded, failed-society California University...they will welcome you with open arms, Comrade Marc.
$15,000 PER Year Per Student for public education (illegal alien students add to that cost w/ESL programs, teachers, assistants, text).
$8,000 per delivery on average for EVERY illegal alien child born in US not to mention ALL emergency room visits for illegal aliens from common cold to $1.5 Million service to care for ONE ILLEGAL Alien patient in FL!
$300+ PER hour court appointed Lawyers, $45 PER day for incarcerated illegal aliens (this does not include translators & all print materials in foreign languanges). Now add in welfare, rent/housing, food stamps (can include phone, utility & cable as well as daycare up to $750 PER month)!
Getting stupid, lazy, fat & apathetic American Taxpayers to pay for it all = PRICELESS! It is YOUR own fault American's HAHAHA – you do not vote so we are winning! HAHAHAHAH
I fully support this legislation. I just saw your story about this and I heard someone describing how people would turn against each other. That is what I would hope for.
The main issue is ILLEGAL immigration not legal immigration. If immigrants want to come to this country, fine, but do it LEGALLY where they can be someone who can contribute as do other LEGAL residents.
There are those who come here stating that they became upstanding citizens AFTER coming here illegally, yet there are so many more that do not do this. They remain a burden on our society and more importantly many of them do not wish to change that status and even work to increase this burden by assisting others to come here illegally to increase the burden even more.
This is an excellent starting point and should be implemented across all troubled borders and entry points. I applaud this whole-heartedly
How about punishing companies for hiring people without papers??? Oh, that would be against business, American prosperily... Hire the legal residents, the ones that complain that the illegals take jobs from them. With that you eliminate the racial profiling issue, since they will not come across the border. Case solved. There are laws but enforcement is lacking, due to protect business. Naturally, none of the parties would look good to be loud about this, because it would be against prosperity...
If this doesn't get overturned as unconstitutional, we will have lost our Republic forever.
This law legalizes racism. I pity every Latino living legally in Arizona who will now face incessant scrutiny.
What a disgrace.
How in the hell they will determine who is illegal? Do we need to carry our immigration papers with us now?
I am against illegal immigration but not at the cost of our liberty. Looks like US will become like Saudi Arabia where people get arrested if they found not carrying their document.
I think its a good law and other states should follow suit.
So long as they do not pull somebody over to just check ID I have no issue with it.. If they are pulling you over for speeding, J-Walking, etc and ask you or the group you are with for valid ID I have no issue with them arresting you if you cannot prove you should be here legally.
I think it is about time. I hope it passes, we need to change the problems that now exist due to all the illegals in our country. I am not opposed to immigration, sure my grandparents were immigrants but they immigrated legally and of course had to learn the language AND assimilate into America. Many hispanics do not want to learn english and only speak Spanish and do not wish to know any other culture but their own, in fact think they already rightly own Arizona. I have seen their handouts when they have protests, they truly feel that Arizona is theirs. Too bad they don't really know history.
This bill is an act of desperation brought on by a failed immigration policy. It will be very difficult for a police officer to determine whether or not a person is here legally based on a conversation. I live on the border in Nogales, Az. were the majority of the community is Mexican and legal US citizens. Like you and I, none of us are required to carry proof of citizenship. Also, I wonder what kind of training these officers will receive to carry out their new orders and whether or not our cash depleted state govt. will foot the bill for all this training? Good luck to this lame brain idea!
NOTHING BUT STRAIGHT RACISM AT IS FINEST
What did you stop me officer
Officer:Because you are brown
IF THAT IS NOT RACISM WHAT IS?
Ditto to what Wayne and the Dr. have said. Come on – get a grip. It's the right thing to do and clearly our federal government lacks the political and moral courage to protect us. Legal and law-abiding citizens of Mexican heritage should not be offended. If you are trying to discover illegal aliens from Mexico you have to focus on individuals who appear to come from Mexico.
I live in Arizona, every day I see problems that are caused by illegals. We are sick and tired of supporting them in schools, medical , and crime,. We have drop houses, drug runners and gangs almost entirely made up of illegals.I hope and pray our Gov. steps up to the plate and signs bill1070. Previous Gov. and now Homeland Sec. idiot never did anything for Arizona and certainly is doing no
Several years ago a friend of mine was rear ended by an illegal alien. As a result of the crash my friend was paralyzed from the waist down. The other driver had no licence and no insurance and subsequently fled back to their country of origin. Two years later my friend committed suicide as he could not adapt. I know his mother and father would give ANYTHING to have their son back.
This is not an isolated incident. Approximately 12 to 14 Americans die each day at the hands of people who should not be here. Look at the FBI's ten most wanted. Fifteen hundred Iraqui's, Iranian's, and Pakastani's have been caught so far crossing the Mexican border attempting to pass themselves off as Mexican nationals when apprehended. Gee, I wonder what they were up to?
I think the legislation is great. Arizona is definitely heading in the right direction. I'm all for immigration – when it's done the right way. It's not fair to have illegals coming in to the country, committing crimes, and giving those who are trying to do things the right way a bad reputation.
I think New Mexico, Texas and California should follow suit. If they're here illegally, kick em' out and make it harder to come back in.
Being a resident of Phoenix, I can say I fully support the bill. Phoenix is now known as the "Kidnapping Capital" of America- a title we are desperate to shake. The kidnappings, done by drug pushers and "Coyotes" who work with smuggling illegal immigrants, are the cause behind these problems.
I fully support any effort on behalf of Law Enforcement to make Phoenix the "Best run city in the USA" the way it was in the 1990's as opposed to the "Kidnapping Capital of the USA".
Hoorah for Arizona. It seems everyone has forgotten that being in the US illegally IS A CRIME! I salute Arizona. It does not matter the skin color or the shape of the face – illegal is illegal. I have paid my dues for 53 years to be in this country and now I am losing all of my benefits to people who are criminals. I say they all need to go home and come back the right way, instead of sneaking in and demanding their Civil Rights here. Seems there is really something wrong with this picture. There should be no question at all about what Arizona wants to do!
I hope Arizona citizens will realize what a misdirected effort this is to try and stop illegal immigration. This law will encourage racial profiling, and place too much power in the hands of police. U.S. citizens with blond hair and blue eyes will not have to worry about being stopped and questioned about their status, but U.S. citizens, like me, with black hair and brown skin, will. Arizona is a beautiful state but I have no intention of spending my vacation dollars there while this law is in place.
It is outrageous that this is even controversial. We do not need immigration reform, we simply need to enforce our existing laws. What is racist is the presumption by persons such as Ms. Garcia that some sort of special privilege should be extended to a particular group, in this case Hispanics. We need to arrest and prosecute anyone who employs illegals. End of problem, No jobs, no reason to be here. I don't hate illegals, I understand that they are seeking a better life. However the plain fact is that we cannot harbor every person born into poverty. The result of that will be to turn the USA into a Third World nation.
nevadademocrat: I am a physics professor NOT from a California University, I have nothing to do with liberals or conservatives or comrades. I was invited to speak about science, not politics. And I feel sorry for you. If Arizona does not want me, I'm certainly not crying for that, I will bring my expertise where it is welcome. It is sad however to see how prejudices can affect a person's mind: "California University", "Liberal", "Comrade"... I am sure that one-on-one you're a good person, it's so sad to see how hiding behind an anonymous blog can turn good people in raging lunatics...
This is definitely racial profiling, but the states have reached a point of desperation and I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier. As long as the Federal Government drags it's feet and does nothing for immigration control the states have to act before they reach the point of bankruptcy.
In a country that has laws....and government officials elected by the people of the same country to police and enforse those laws, why does it come as a surprise and a confrontation when the law staes that if you are doing something ILLEGAL then they are enjoined to enforce the law.....no surprise just the law...If u are here illegally then u are the ones they are after...no one else....
There is nothing right about asking for papers. One can't help but think of Nazi Germany. I live in AZ. I'm often mistaken for an hispanic though I was born in WI. Does this mean I have to start carrying a passport? To avoid the racial profiling accusation where does the burden a proof lie legally when pulling someone over. I can see lawsuits piling up now!
This bill is outrageous. Not only will it justify the use of racial profiling but it will also amount tens of thousands of tax payer money to an inhumane and futile law enforcement. This is money that could be used to improve public transportation or education system for our youth.
This is not racial profiling, its language profiling. There are illegals from all over the world. Immigration is great, but in limited numbers and done legally.
i think it is about time that someone had the courage to say that breaking the law is breaking the law.it shouldnot matter who,where or the circumstances and law abiding citizens have nothing to fear.
I like this idea very much. This is overdue. I myself is an immigrant to this country and last 21 Yrs, I have been always a law abiding citizen. I have been a dedicated democrat throughout my life. I can not see how come this country block millions of people in one hand to come to this country legally but allowing millions to stay in this country illegally. And Federal govt. is not going to do anything to stop this atrocities and massacre by illegals. States need to come out with their own law. These illegals are taking away all the social resources. This is simply crazy.
I am a Cuban immigrant which came to the US in 1970 and a US
Citenzen since the 80s. This bill is a sure admission of the
failure of the immigration policies and control. Further and most alarming, it is prejudice and targets a sector of the population.
Can we truly see a policy officer asking an Anglo rancher if he is
here legally? If not, this bill is not legal and should not be signed.
This sounds like a business opportunity. T-shirts or jackets with your Drivers License displayed for all officers to see. That will cut down on the stops officers have to make and make real citizens feel more secure. Sounds like a multi-million dollar business and a real winner in these tough economic times.
I think more states should follow the lead of Arizona. I think it should also be a federal offense for employers to employ illegals, whereas the employers will do jail time and be required to pay the expenses of transportation, etc for shipping the illegals back to their own country.
This should also be the same those who house illegals or protect them like the church. Organizations who harbor the illegals who are a tax exempt organization should loose that privilidge.
My daughter lives near a lot of illegal imagrants and she tells me how they get stolen ss# for 75 dollars and then get on food stamps and even file taxes using a stolen ss#. then they also have a husband getting paid cash for work- along with all these benifits. That's why they are coming here. While we let them get away with all this and call it discrimnation if we try to put a stop to it?
At one time in my life I would have been incensed at being stopped and ask to prove my citizenship in America, as would most Americans. But that was before illegal invaders learned how to use our system of freedoms against us. So now, if you want to stop me at any time to make sure that I have a legitimate right to be in this country then I welcome it! But the problem may be that in many cases across the nation, law enforcement wants to appear lenient or complacent to the legal status of illegals or migrant community so that the migrant community will feel free to come to law enforcement to report any crime against them. But in my opinion, this is not doing their job and shirking responsibility. It’s like ignoring or turning a blind eye to millions of small time drug dealers in the hopes that the small time dug dealers will turn in the king pin or bigger drug dealers. It’s law enforcement gone amuck; and it’s killing our nation!!!
I am an immigrant. My dream was to be an American, and I am today. All these illegal alien invasion is only destroying my dream, and that's unacceptable. Open border policies, and the people who push for it, is only degrading this nation into a third world country. The new bill in Arizona is an example for the rest of the country that MUST be followed as a start. It is time to reinstate the broken institution in this country, and that responsibility is, as always, in the hands of we, the people.
Now we need it for the whole country...go Arizona
and by the way, the real racism being expressed here is the presumption that all Hispanics are brown skinned. No, Mexicans are brown skinned. Many Hispanics are black and some are white as snow. But then, what would one expect from people who support a group that calls itself, La Raza?
I am so glad that I live in Penna. I am just upset that I will never be able to visit my family there. I am an Africa-American that might look Spanish & I could be picked up or stopped. I have an accent. I think this is illegal McCain is a bigot.. Remember when he ran for President and on April 4th he stood on the balcony when Martin Luther King was shot (he was trying to get some Black votes) and he got booed. (remember AZ doesn't recognize King's birthday as a holiday). He then promised he will changed that. GUESS WHAT – it still isn't a holiday. Mr. McCain is nothing but lair and bigot. He will do anything to get votes and he doesn't care whom he hurts.
I don't believe this law would lead to racial profiling in any way shape or form. It is something the state of Arizona needs. Police officers should have the right to question anyone about their legal status here in the U.S. It should be something every state should enforce.
The only thing these people are afraid of is being caught here illegally. Arizona is out of control with illegals and it causes our auto insurance,medical cost to increase and welfare to be paid for on the backs of the legal working residences in the state. There are legal US citizens in this state that don't have health insurance yet we give it to the illegals. Somethings wrong with this picture. No other country would allow this to happen why should we? The courts are overwhelmed with illegal immigrants that have committed crimes here. They have no respect for our country and something needs to be done. As a legal resident of Arizona I will be very disappointed if this doesn't pass.
I don't have a problem with profiling for safety sake. The problem is that we are limiting it to Hispanics. Why not profile Arab Americas? As far as I know of, Hispanics have never blown anything up in this country. Where as Arabs have. Then we also need to profile all Muslims. After all they come in all colors, shapes, sexes and sizes!
Unfortunately the US cannot continue with a business as usual mentality. Hard decisions have to be made to control the costs in entitlements, 2 wars and illegal immigrants. Get these things in order and we might just be able to get this Gov.t back in the black and t be able to afford universal health coverage. If the Gov't does not want to make the tough decisions then it is up to the States.
People get harrassed by the police all the time, and it's not just blacks and hispanics. It's any teenager wearing a backwards hat, or 'privledged youth' driving around in a nice car with tinted out windows. If anything legal immagrents should be happy that this law is passed, because they became a citzen of this counrty the right way. The legal immagrents are being screwed just like the rest of us. So yea, legal immagrents may be pursued by the police to check their documentation and if the harrasment goes overboard then they have the right to take action against the law enforcment. But there is the fundamental point that people are missing, they have the right to do so. Illegal immagrents have not obtained those rights, and they are abusing the privledges of living in the United States. It's about time that the powers that be take control of our country again and make life easier for the people who are actually citizens.
I think it's a great law. Shouldn't they already be doing this already? I think it would be good in FL too!
I believe that immigration is not a crime... All this immigrants come here for a reason .. To do hard labor & and support their families... Is there any crime on that? Like all people, there is bad and good people.. We can not assume that for one raw apple the rest Of the apples are the same... Is time to be caring and give and support others that need help...
I hope the rest of the country will follow suite and run the illegals back where they came from. Thoes people that think this is horrible should follow them out .
I think this kind of bill is long overdue. All states as well as the federal government should promptly follow suit.
I sympathize with the Mexican people, who are obviously suffering greatly from economic problems, but so are we. I believe that they should stay home and do whatever it takes to resolve the problems, just as we must do. I have been out of work for 16 months like thousands and thousands of other Americans and I don't appreciate people who come here illegally and use resources I have to pay for, such as hospital emergency rooms, Social Security, etc..
I believe Arizona is right to "profile" them. Not only should employers not hire them, they should have to prove their citizenship status in order to get housing.
If it's illegal, it's illegal, and they do NOT have any kind of "rights." Also, we should not give citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants who are born here.
Illegal means illegal. If you are not a US citizen you have no rights under the constitution, and if you are here and are an illegal you should be arrested just as any one els that brakes the law. a crime is a crime and if you break the law you should be jailed. All those that belive this is profiling, let them move to your state and drain the resources for your children. God Bless America.
Yes I think other states should follow Arizona's lead. Everyone who is American derived from immagrents. Ones who obtained the citizenship through the correct channels. People forget this if your here and don't have documents to show your here on the up&up you are breaking the LAW! To me a cop asking for proof of citizenship is like when you go to a store and your credit card that isn't signed and the cashier asks for ID. I am NATIVE AMERICAN so I maybe racially profiled but if I have proof what's the big deal? I'd rather that happen on a daily basis to myself, but it give me a peice of mind that ILLEGAL LAW BREAKING IMMAGRENTS are not bleeding the system dry.
America is being infiltrated by illegal immigrants. Anyone wanting to become a US citizen should accept the practice of being profiled. America owes them nothing and we should be more worried about our country than our political correctness to the world.
Well, I guess farmers will no longer have cheap labor to go out and work in the fields. Which means, we are going to pay at the stores and where we eat. Nobody with a little high I.Q. is not going to go and work in 100 degree weather and pick apples. Arizona is the most dumpest state in this country.
It seems the American People have lost the clear idea of the law.
Yes: I agree with the new law Arizona has passed and I think that all states should follow suit. I am married to a Legal immigrant who has fulfilled all of the requirements of the United States. It is a very large cost in money and in time to complete these requirements but we need to keep in mind that with out these laws we will all suffer. Look at California who in the last few years had to close several hospitals due to the lack of funds. Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes or buy insurance (there may be some but most do not), we need to think about who is paying. Terrorist are with out mentioning a large problem for all Americans.
The government of this country needs to stop terrorizing human beings! Whether they are legal citizens or illegal immigrants is immaterial. This is racial profiling at it's worst. Does the word "Gestapo" mean anything to you people? We are heading in that direction and one day illegal immigrants will not be the only persons being hunted down. Christians are on the agenda also, as are the pro-life groups and anyone else who is against activities that are prohibited in the Bible! (Remember the nativity and the ten commandments!) It is not moral, nor is it American, to accept what our elected officials are doing. If it is not stopped we need to go up to the island and pull down that big old statue with the torch held high. What hipocrisy! I am a natural born American citizen who wants to vomit at the unadulterated lack of compassion and caring that is missing in this country! If you want to do something constructive why not go into the highways and byways and find all these monsters who are killing off the children...or find a way to stop taking ALL our tax dollars to pay for the mistakes of big business/government.
The illegal immigrant overload has nearly bankrupted schools, cities hospitals, prisons in our border states.. There's nothing wrong with the leaders in Arizona saying "Arizona First" and supporting their American citizens who pay the taxes.
The only ones screaming about racial profiling are the ones that are either themselves illegal aliens or have family members that are inside our country and illegal. Because "brown skinned" people who are here legally LOVE this law and accept it because they know they have nothing to worry about. All the losers are now going to leave Arizona, which just makes me want to move there and live happily ever after. I wish Nevada will be next to follow Arizona because we are going to only get worse now because all those illegals leaving Arizona will be coming to Nevada.
This is 25 years past due. I feel other states should definately follow Arizonas lead in passing this bill. If and when this bill does pass it will be a lot less strain on Americas economy. We didn't tear apart any families, they did by coming to this country illegally. They're a strain on todays economy because they run illegal businesses here and they do not pay taxes. The money they make here goes to Mexico. Most of the automotive recycling yards are run and owned by illegals.
Legal immigration is not the issue/ breaking the law and going into another country and basically stealing that countrys resources is the issue. Lets tell the truth for a change if people can not work here legally they are working under the table and are not contributing to the tax system that people who are working here legally are. This is one of the few functions the federal government should have been doing for the last 30 years.
The U.S. has a process for people who want to imigrate to our country. One of the immigrant responsibilities is to assimilate into our culture - respect our flag, learn the language, etc. Unfortunately, far to many of those coming across our southern border, are choosing not to do this.
Most of us who are against illegal immigration, ask these folks to just come here legally by applying for entry into the U.S. to live and work and wait their turn. In addition, no amnesty!
If "racial" profiling stops or slows illegal entry into Arizona, then I volunteer to be stopped.
Thinking beyond the humanitarian point of view, Arizona is reacting to the economic burden. The Phoenix area has earned the unflattering title of the city with the highest kidnap rate in the country. The human trafficking and drug transport industries are actually extending the turf war from south of the border to Arizona. The police are forced to protect the community with at a minimum "One hand tied behind their back."
On the other hand, Senator McCain is rather disingenuous regarding this as it took pressure during his re-election campaign to make him support what the community has been asking for.
The Arizona economy has taken a significant hit due to the country's humanitarian policy of not turning away anyone in need of emergency medical care. Thousands of illegal immigrants (not just Latinos) are taking advantage of this compassionate loophole at the expense of the Federal, State and local government budgets.
The biggest challenge for the region is that the inflow will not decrease, only move to the left or right of the AZ border. Here in Southern Nevada with 13.4% unemployment, the concept of adding additional low wage labor to an already challenge workplace will only add to the budget complexities.
If you have a green card, then you would have nothing to worry about. The police would ask for identification and you would provide it, end of story. Sounds like either something is a little shady on your end, or you aren't as smart as you think you are. Either way, as a U.S. Citizen, I would love to offer my drivers license at anytime to the police when asked and let them run my stats, oh yeah, that is because I'm legal! Again, the only people that are complaining seem to be the people who think that everyone has the RIGHT to come to our country whether legally or illegally and to support their families and to have their babies here and then claim that the Big, Bad America is breaking up families, etc. It's old. America is awesome and it is a privilege – not a RIGHT.....
So ask yourself (Marc), if you are that brillant in Science and you are legal, why would you deny an opportunity to speak with young brillant minds and make your mark on this world?
Racial profiling is a GOOD thing. If you are a Latino, YOU MUST cooperate. If you are an American from Latino background, you MUST cooperate. This is for the future and prosperity of our nation. Being Latino, DOES NOT mean you have to support people who break our laws. ALL AMERICANS are expected to follow and respect the laws. Illegal aliens have been breaking the system for decades, WE, the people, are going to enforce them now. The game is over.
Talk about displacement syndrome...
Instead of focusing on strenghtening our economy, we are harkening back to a time in US History when McCarthyism reigned supreme. Back then it was "The Commies". Today it's the "Illegals" (specifically those people "suspected" of being illegal because of their skin or hair color). If you are in Arizona and have dark hair, I would warn you not to get a tan. Let's be real here...Do you seriously think that a police officer is likely to ask a light-skinned person if they are here legally? What if they do and that light-skinned person doesn't have anything that proves that they are here legally...will they get arrested? Probably not. (BTW, If you picture all Latino's as having brown skin and dark hair, think again.)
This Bill is a waste of Arizona resources. The Phoenix Police Department has been speaking of layoffs/furloughs. Will the manpower be there to enforce this? No. Will there be lawsuits from people wrongly detained/arrested due to this law? Most definitely. I promise this...If I happen to be approached by a local law enforcement officer and if I am asked about my citizenship, I will politely plead the 5th. If I happen to be arrested due to my refusal to answer the question and/or supply proper documentation, you can bet your bottom dollar that I WILL sue.
This is a situation where some people are pointing fingers at Illegals, placing the blame solely on them and wanting to make everybody afraid or angry against those being blamed.
C'mon Arizona...Those bigoted legislative members who voted for this bill are presenting a very negative face to the rest of the country. I'm extremely embarrased to say that I live in Arizona.
I am an alum of the University of Arizona in Tucson, and I am glad I graduated and left four years ago. Lucky me because I would be constantly harassed now if this bill is signed into law.
This piece of legislation is abhorrent and anybody involved with its crafting, passage, and signing should be ashamed of themselves.
It will inevitably target not just Latino immigrants but American-born Latinos. It places our community in a police state of constant terror and fear.
To my Latino brethren in Arizona, make sure you laminate your birth certificates, passports, green cards, and the like. You are going to be asked for it a lot now.
For all the cries last week by Tea Partiers about "tyranny" and "freedom," in Arizona, liberty for Latinos dies a painful but ignored death.
I do not understand how this is even an argument. We have immigration laws. IF you want to live in America, you need to follow the laws and get legal citizenship and pay taxes. I'm tired of illegal immigrants bringing a ton of kids, flooding our school systems and hospitals without paying a dime. My grandfather had to jump through the hoops to get citizenship - time for your people to start doing the same.
Finally, the state of Arizona doing what we as legal citizens have been asking for, for years. Legal imimigration and consequences for illegals breaking the law. I am for immigration, our country needs the help, but legal imigration please. I hope more states follow this precedent.
First of all, i just want to let all of you know that i myself is an immigrant to this country and for last two decades i have been always a law abiding citizen. I am urging all the Americans to do everything to stop illegal immigrants. They are creating havoc to our society, taking away all the social resources, school resources, medical resources. Schools are now spending more on bi-lingual education than science and math. What has been going on for sometime giving the illegals all the facility and right is simply insane.
I think that this is not the right way to solve the immigration problem we have. People are taking away their own rights of the constitution. The sad thing about it, it just goes to show how arrogant people are. One of the things I would like to point out is that people say that immgrants are criminals but immigrants are here because just like Americans immigrants are just trying to survive.
This should have be done a long time ago. The problem is that is costs so much to become legal and often takes years. When my grandparents came here, they were given a Social Security number, pledged their allegience and were taught english and went to school and work. Let's make it easier for the illegals to become legal so they can become taxpayers and contribute to the economy.
I believe that other states should follow. Anyone who is here illegal should be deported. They should have to get in line like the people that are here legally. They are taking American jobs and they affect the school systems and health care. I think they should be stopped and if they are not here legally they should be deported immediately.
I for one absolutely agree with racial profiling in all aspects. If you are from a terrorist nation, you may be a wonderful person, but expect to take a little extra time at the airport because you will be thoroghly searched. I absolutely agree with that. I'm so sick and tired of being "politically correct" and anything the ACLU believes in, I know for a fact I am on the opposite side. The ACLU will ruin America, give them a few more years. I'm tired of hearing about the 90 year old NUN that was searched at the airport, but they let the 2 Yemen muslims go by without anything because they didn't want to be accused of racial profiling. Are you kidding me?
Yes, I understand that there are many other people within America that are illegal aliens, but the majority are Mexicans or Latin Americans, you can't deny it. Until we get that under control, we should start with what we know.
I am "brown" and I would appreciate some racial profiling on me, if that means that are finally going to get all the others in town.
This is great. The laws of the land should be enforced. It is unclear why the Hispanic community thinks they should be exempt from the laws on immigration. Everyone should have the opportunity to come to this country, but they should do so legally. Illegal immigrants are illegal.
We should all enforce and support this law.
The illegals will just leave Arizona and those illegals will become some other states' problem. So we should all be mindful and support the laws.
They are breaking a law. The Police are there to stop people from breaking the law. Now they will have a state law to enforce in support of fed. law. I have never understand why it was not been done yet.
I have a solution for AZ gather all this rednecks together including the sheriffs and the governor and send them back to Europe their home?
Mexicans and Indians are AMERICA morons!!!
Illegal immigrants are illegal, period. They crowd our hospitals, schools, and welfare rolls, all paid for by the American taxpayer. They take American jobs. It has been proven that the small amount they pay in taxes does not begin to compensate for what they cost. Arizona is overrun by people who sneak across the border..
What is wrong with asking people coming to this country to go through proper channels to obtain citizenship, . We don' think it OK for people to go out, rob bank, kill, or what other crimes that are committed. Why would we think illegally entering the US OK. It is so like the political side of life. Wrong has gone on so long that we don't know what is right any more.
Think of the border between countries as your property line. Then, tell me if you'd allow people of any race to walk through your back yard. It's easy to point fingers about "brown" people or Mexicans or whomever you think is the "problem." If South America was occupied by albinos and they came to this country illegally, you'd be carding every pink-eyed, white-haired person on the street. The actual problem lies in American companies and corporations that hire illegal immigrants and with the American public’s fear of speaking their mind. No one wants to be condemned as a racist, but this is really an economic issue that affects everyone regardless of interest or apathy. The government’s time, (our tax) money and (natural) resources affect people even if they choose not to participate (read vote) on issues. Much like the prostitute-john "relationship," if there's a need, then there's a source. If the employers of illegal immigrants were held accountable or fined, there would be a lot less "race-related" profiling. This would not stop people from illegally entering the country by any means. There's no other nation in the world that offers amnesty to people who enter illegally. We should not encourage nor reward any non-citizen, no matter country of origin, with benefits, driver's license, or rights, and this includes the loophole of "anchor babies" or any other means to exploit the system. As cruel as this might sound, the country needs to be run a little more like a business and not a flop-house. Think about how much money is dumped into border patrol, the penal system, healthcare and lawsuits for non-citizens. Did you know an illegal immigrant has the right to sue an employer? Which is worse, the illegal immigrant who might be feigning injury for profit or the employer who hired the illegal immigrant for cheap labor? This kind of thinking promotes modern slavery. California is full of people basking in wealth while exploiting the misfortunate. We have this convoluted historical philosophy of accepting the downtrodden as long as they’re not a burden to us financially. Americans should make up their minds rather than making excuses. If Americans didn’t make excuses, then the illegal immigrants as a majority wouldn’t have the right to protest, which is one of the fundamentals of our Constitution. Meaning, you have to let them in the country and in great mass in order for them to use your laws against you.
I do not see this as racial profiling. If they are here legally and they have their green card, then they have nothing to worry about. I see this new law as a major step.
I think this very bad that people are here to better themselves and have to live in fear.Immigrants are not the only people committing crimes in this country instead they work hard to contribute to the economy of Arizona.This is act of racism of national origin.
Since the vast majority of the millions of non-American citizens entering the United States illegally from Mexico, look like Mexicans, it only makes sense for authorities to check people who appear to be Mexican. They are being checked because they look like people who may have broken the laws of this country by entering illegally. Those Americans who are or look like they could be Mexicans will have to understand, just as any American does who is questioned by police when they have done nothing wrong. The politically correct prohibition against racial profiling has gone way too far. The next thing will be that police will be required to interview Asian, Mexican and black African-American prospective suspects when the perpetrator of a crime is reported as being white.
Anyone, regardless of ethnicity, race, citizenship or any other factor can be required to produce identification for authorities when requested. If one wanted to make an issue of being unjustly interfered with by authorities, one could conceivably win a law suit against those authorities, though the expense and trouble otherwise would outweigh the consideration, if any awarded.
Once, on a very cold night, my wife and I were compelled by police to stand outside our care after we left a hockey game because we were cold. The police were questioning us (middle class, middle aged couple) in response to a report of someone attempting to break into the nearby nuclear reactor. I was not pleased, but understand the police have to do their job.
State College, PA
Hooray for Arizona!! It's about time that somebody did something positive to stop illegal immigration. Some people are screaming about 2 things, Racial Profiling and the rights of legel and illegal immigrants. First, Racial Profiling is the only way Israel still exists and if the immigrant has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear. If the Mexicans in our country don't like it , tell them to go back to Mexico ! No one is making them stay here.
I think it is a good law it will protect all legal citizens latinos as well.
if you legalize immigrant's you would have the economic jolt this counrty need's, a stablizing housing market
Its about time. Im moving to Arizona
I support Arizonams bill. We have a lot of illegal immigrants here that are overwhelming our country and commiting crimes with no recourse. I think police being able to stop soneone they dont believe are here legally is okay. If they want to be here do it the legal way, contribute legally to this economy and we want mind. Im still shocked that they feel as though they have the same rights and liberties as we do when the are here ILLEGALLY
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Yes, yes, yes. The new law being discussed must be passed. The law being considered is not racist, it's common sense. The American citizens who live in border states can testify to the problems regarding overcrowding, gang problems, and being driven from their homes and neighborhoods for their own safety. My family members in Illinois have experienced the same problems. I think we have had enough of the bullying and demands from pushy immigrants. This law would be wonderful for the entire United States.
what do people not understand about ILLEGAL?? Why as an American Citizen do I have to obey the laws of our country but illegal immigrants don't?? What is NOT clear about ILLEGAL people??
This country has been to lax on illegal aliens. I hear too many illegal activists trying to compare legal immigrents who came through Ellis Island to the illegals. There is no comparison one is legal and the other is illegal.
Under Pres. Reagan there was amnesty and penalties for new illegals. The penaties where rarely enforced if ever. And now they want to grant the close to 13 million new illegals here amnesty?
It is way past time that the illegals are forced to immigrate like the rest of many, legally. And the illegals should be forced to pay for their deporattion costs. This country can only handle so many immigrants a year. This country is overwhelmed by the mass exodus.
The problem keeps getting worse. It is time that there is a fair solution and enforcement.
Legalizing immigrant's mean's new investment here in the U.S. buy 50 other latin countries pouring $ here for investment
There is so much ignorance and mis-education from the media on this issue. First and foremost Mexico is not a race so this has nothing to do with racial profiling. Mexico is a country and this is about nationalism. One country dumping its poor and uneducated on another. America cannot care for Mexico's poor and criminals. Most mexican's don't even know that they are made up of 3 different races so they have no clue of which race to claim. America and its citizens deserve to protect its borders and services. Mexicos arrogance and the arrogance of its citizens breaking laws of our country and then wanting to be protected by laws is ridiculous. using civil rights leaders as examples is embarrassing as well as most Mexicans erroneously claim to be white and debase Blacks regularly need to obey our laws made to protect Americans
It took me eight years to get my wife and son's citizenship, the mexican nationals walk across a boarder and think their citizens. they use up our medical care and educational classrooms and resources. we need the law like arizona's in order to get them back to their country. here in denver we have them bribing our elected officials with the drug money they make by getting our kids stuck on dope. they have kid's here and then they become citizens, we have to make a law against that. we are being invaded, wake up or we will have a terrible war.
Legalizing immigrant's mean's new line's of credit that you can charge interest on" mean's $$$ :)
I am a legal immigrant, took me tousands of dollars, days standing in lines to get my greencard in the US and I don't think it's fair, that illegal immigrants can get jobs much easier, with fake I.D.s then me, or a U.S citizen!!
They don't pay taxes, I do
They ask and get for monetary help, I don't...but I pay for it???!!!
Yes! they need to get legalized, or go back to they home country. Period.
The immigration debate has been going on for years with no results. Our federal government has let down the American people with it refusal to do anything about it. I glad that the people of Arizona want to make a stand against the unlawful and illegal acts to stop the flood of unchecked, uneducated, unmotivated and unemployed people who's only plan is to drain the resources from this country. God Bless Arizona!
California should follow. Millions will be saved by eliminating services in schools, prisons, and welfare programs. Racial profiling does no exist, but lawbreakers do, regardless of skin color. Let them in if they follow the procedures legally required! It's a no brainer!!
For the first time in the more than 30 years that I have lived in Arizona, I am ashamed to admit that I live here. The state government has done some stupid things recently and has now topped it off with this immigration bill. If I am stopped for speeding, will I be asked to prove that I am a citizen? Will I be asked for my passport? But if I had darker skin or have an accent, then all of a sudden I might be a criminal or at least I might be in this country illegally? Sounds like racial profiling to me!
This is dangerous, insensitive and stupid!!! Let's find a way to legalize the people living in the shadows of our nation. I'm an American citizen and YES, I've lived as an illegal in another country before and it's tough. It's scary!!! Immigrating, living amongst people that are different than you are and adjusting to culture shock is NOT EASY for newcomers to the United States. Look, those Americans that are so anti-immigrant have never lived abroad before and some probably have never left their towns much less. The Americans shouting "illegal" are afraid of the unknown and need to open their hearts. We should learn to embrace other cultures. Sometimes if you're in the Third World country, for example, India, China or Brazil, the laws are not clear cut. These laws that Americans are advocating will have a reverse effect on Americans living, working and residing outside the United States. I've LIVED abroad before and I can say that most Latin American countries are watching this debate. If you make life hell for illegal immigrants in the U.S., they will do the same to us abroad. Unfortunately, most Americans aren't curious about other cultures, would consider residing in other countries or working aboard. If Americans WALKED IN THE IMMIGRANTS shoes abroad, this debate would be much different. Let's stop talking from comfort and start talking from common sense and sensitivity!
RJ: Because I have already been harassed by police (twice). I volunteered to witness for a crime, and I ended up being questioned about where I was born, how long was I in the states, if I were legal, show ID, show green card etc etc. (and without a law allowing this – you do not say "no" to a police officer...) It was not pleasant. Concerning showing the driver license, this may not be enough to save you from a free trip to jail, as a recent incident in Cambridge Massachusetts, where a black Harvard professor was handcuffed in his own house after showing ID and passport to police, indeed shows. I came to this country because this country needed my expertise, or, if we want to say it bluntly, because the university where I work could not find anybody on this side of the Atlantic who could start a much needed research. It's business, pal, from both sides. America may be a privilege for somebody, as many immigrants are a privilege for America. About making a mark on this world: I guess I can spend my time better if I speak elsewhere. I can spend all my life teaching physics to monkeys without leaving a mark.
Hello, It is sad to know that people is to worry about immigration when we have worse problems like child abuse, earthquakes, wars.
Most of these problems lead to poverty and to immigrate to countries with better future. And all that people that is against immigrants have to remember that their ancestors came also from other countries as immigrants. There is not much difference between immigrants now on. I do not think immigrants are taking jobs away from americans, if americans want to work they could do it but they some times do not want to so they can have goverment support, and also they do not want to work for less, and that is when immigrants take those jobs nobody wants becase they are not good payed.
IT'S ABOUT TIME we enforced our immigration laws! That is what our FEDERAL government was sworn to do all along, but chose not to do. So now we have 12-20 MILLION unknown people taking advantage of us and doing whatever they like – in OUR country.
No other country is so STUPID and PATHETIC as to tolerate such an outrage – let alone REWARD such lawbreakers with free social services, free education and free health care!
We need to identify them and send them home. They can HEN, if they want to apply to come here they can.
(A liberal, but one who has not forsaken his common sense. )
Congratulations to the state of Arizona on the immagration law. Lets hope the rest of the states pass a similar measure. I certainly don't have any problems with immigrants as long as they are legal and would welcome them. I live in SE Kansas, and would love to see Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri and Arkansas pass a similar law.
Hooray for Arizona! Ilegals cost this country millions of dollars, especially the western states. California should follow suit and get itself out of the budget shortfalls they currently encounter!
This is just the most rascist thing that has happened in the U.S. in the past 60 years. What counts as reasonable reasonable cause. Just because a person has a hispanic background doesn't mean that a person is here illegally. Imagine the impact of this law passing. Like senator Russell Pearce said, we don't allow people in county illegally. then learn from history. The white people did the same thing, your ancestors are illegal immigrants. Think of the economic effect this law will have. If the country is going through a hard time economically right now, imagine what it will be like especially for the state of Arizona. This is just supremely rascist thing that this generation has seen.
I "agree" with the Bill that is before The Governor of Arozina. I believe that each State should have that decision.
These are "lean" times, and by illigals not paying taxes, getting our education, and utilizing our health resources, is putting me as a legal citizen, without resources that I could now use.
Before, We, The US, seems to have an excess of resources; but since this recent economy of lack, there seems to be less resources to go around. Schools are being closed; programs are being cut; How can Illigals expect us to continue to continue to support them?
When we are in need; I have never seen any Country come to the aide of The United States of America!
I believe Arizona has the right idea to curb illegal immigration. Now if the rest of the states could follow suit, then America will begin to recover from the many negative effects that illegal immigrants have had on the US.
Maybe they should just set up random road checks for ALL vehicles on X road at Y time like they do for drunk driving. Then there would be NO profiling issues and they would still be moving forward with resolving this problem.
If they would make some kind of effort like this, I would have no problem providing my docs more than once a day!!! I have them!!!
Its about time that someone is going to do something about the flood of illigals. Racial profing?? who do people think are coming across the southern border. Now we nee the military on the border, We can send our military around the world to protect other countries from invasions, what the matter with protecting our own.
I think that has to be better ways with immigration than arresting people that most of the time are innocents with family. I think that a lot of people against immigrants do not think clearly and are racists.
Where's the beef here?
This country was founded by immigrants... I see no problem with immigrants, but they should pay income taxes, state taxes, FICA, just like any other American citizen shouldn't they?
If someone wants to come to this country, that's fine... but they need to become an American citizen to work and live here. Can anybody tell me why people should be allowed to come to this country, live and work... use the roads, send their kids to school, and not have to pay taxes for these and other freedoms? American citizens pay federal, state, county, and city taxes for these services don't they?
And if illegal immigrants are living and working in America, and NOT paying taxes like American citizens, then that means we're paying more taxes to support people that are here illegally that are not paying taxes. Why should Americans have to pay for federal, state, county, and city services for illegal immigrants?
It's pretty clear to me... either become a legal citizen of the U.S. or get a green card in order to work... or get out of the country until you become a citizen.
This is not a conservative/liberal issue here... it just makes sense to me.
cops wont go after everyone brown, obviously cops can tell between asian, italians, light skinned blacks, etc... theyll only go after the mojadros, you know, the only ones driving ugly decorated cars, shoot guns in the air, smuggle drugs, leave diapers along lake shores, have their kids run in streets, hang out in home depot parking lots, fit 8 into a truck, 40 per house, and listen to that crappy music.. theyll be easy to spot.
ILucky for us and bad for the Native Americans this was not done some hundred years ago........! Immigrants are immigrants, even the Republican Governor"s ansisters. Or maybe he is a Native.....???
The Federal government has long ignored the problem of illegal immigration. Everywhere in the Southwest, there are illegal immigrants crowding our hospitals, schools, and welfare systems. They have their babies here so that they can start chain migration because of it, and American taxpayer pay for all of this. Arizona has a right to protect its citizens from the drugs and crime coming across the border, and keep employers from bringing down wages by hiring illegals. Americans need the jobs that these people are taking. When do American citizens get their rights?
Hopefully other states will employ the same bill and protect jobs, housing, schools, health care and our citizens from the imported crime from Mexico and other countries that dump on America. We are not here to babysit the poor and unskilled from other places. We currently have the lowest standards for immigration and do not demand that those entering have education or a skill needed by our country instead we allow them to enter welfare roles and defraud social security all while they shout viva Mexico. Mexico hates our country and think we owe it land and we need to do something to end this thinking
I hope the other states will follow Arizona's lead. If it is against the law, why do we put up with it.
When Americans go to another country, Passports are mandatory.
It is no different here in Arizona and until you live in a state that borders Mexico, seeing and hearing about it is one thing but living it is another.
To those who oppose the bill, what state do you live in?
i am not a citizen but is living legally because of my husband's work here in the US. Arizona is on the right track for passing the bill.I know a lot of people who are living illegally and i think it is unfair for us who came here, spent big amount of money for the processing of our papers just to get here. I truly understand the plight of illegal immigrants.But coming here illegally is wrong because there are laws to follow.We have to uphold the law and what we need right now is for the US immigration law be amended to make it more humane.I am not afraid to be checked by the police,why should I? When you can prove that you are a legal resident,why be scared? I would be happy to know if other states will follow the same steps.
Laws such as this would not be necessary if we did not have an illegal persons problem in the US. Laws such as this are not discriminatory rather, the law provides an avenue to further enforce laws that are in place.
It is the presents of the illegal’s that make laws like this necessary. When one group is well known to the public and are not in compliance with various rules or laws then profiling is a sound way to seek out and remove those that do not follow the laws and rules.
Time has come to focuses our attention on those known to violate the laws and rules of our land. For those that don't like the new law must remember we are a nation of freedom. These freedoms do not prevent you from leaving and going somewhere you like better.
The immigration law does not go far enough. Schools should require proof of citizenship and report illegal immigrants. Hospital emergency rooms should require proof of citizenship and report illegals. They can not refuse treatment, but they can report them and have them deported.Employers of illegal immigrants should be arrested and fined heavily. Our state is overrun by drug and human smugglers coming across our borders. We need our National Guard troops on the Arizona border fully armed and allowed to arrest illegal immigrants. No one seems to want to admit that ILLEGAL entry is a crime. Legal immigration is welcome. Illegal immigration is a crime that hurts us all and must be stopped. Our highways are unsafe because of the smugglers. When they have accidents our emergency rooms are flooded with illegal immigrants who are victims of the human smugglers. As a taxpaying citizen it is hard to see how anyone could oppose this law. It is a long time comiing and does not go far enough. Senators McCain and Kyl need to get aboard with their full support for strengthening our laws against illegal immigration.
one of the major significant crime is not being mentioned! desperate mexican women are seducing married American men to break the marriage to obtain residency, and they will do just about anything to sexual immorality. police report everywhere is filled with violent crimes relating to these domestic crimes and i am one of the victim after 30 some years of marriage. if they come to earnestly work and pay taxes, i support their efforts, but if they break the law whether it is thru drug, sex or any illegal activity, i support the arizona law. Americans are law abiding citizens after all, aren't we?
These steps should have been taken long ago. And by all states. These people have broken laws to get into this country. Why does anyone think they will abide by the other laws? They have overburdened our social services , schools, law enforcment agencies and hospitals in all states. The Federal government has refused to enforce the laws that would have stopped this. Drugs are being smuggeled in and bringing the gangs and violence that follows.Any here illegally from anywhere should be told . If you ever want citizenship in this country. Go home and come in the right way. Set a date and if they are found here later. They should be deported and never allowed back in. It starts by securing our boarders
Is this real? My first question is who is the majority party in Arizona that has passed this? I'm a teacher in Texas and we have many school districts full of American children who belong to illegal parents. What does Arizona plan to do with the children?
Next they will raiding school offices to find these parents. I don't think this was the answer. I'm numb on this one.
A very interesting situation indeed....I have family in the Arizona and California area for over 60 years and they immigrated legally and went by the system.It seems the "anyone who can get there is entitled" mentality has taken over....we speak 2 languages up here and we actually verify if someone is allowed to work ..BEFORE.. they start.I have seen many companies from landscape to factories to construction on my trips there hire and pay these employees minimum wage if not worse as they know they have no options to complain...perhaps an approach by both sides in finding a solution to this country and indeed all of North America,s issues on this would be a better approach...of course we do not have millions of illegals in Canada but we do have our own issues ...compassion is great until they burn your ranch or raise your taxes ..we can find the solution to allow all to prosper and be respected...but it starts in Mexico!!Good Luck!!
Good for the citizens of Arizona. It's about time that we all began to demand that our immigration laws be enforced. What other country allows illegals to enter with impunity? The border states must act as they have not received the support from the feds. As someone who has resided in a border state, and who has traveled extensively, it is alarming to witness the rise in the illegal population in cities across the country. Witness the increase in Latino gang population and related criminal activity. Enough is enough. I hope that other border states follow Arizona's example, and that the Gov. of Arizona does the right thing for tax paying U.S. citizens. This is not an issue of prejudice, it is the right thing. If we do not enforce the laws of the land, where does that lead us?
America is a melting pot! Some in Arizona have a problem thinking being 'pure white' is the only thing of value. Immigrants have a history of valued contributions and labor in our country but it is important for immigrants to be allowed a fair chance at getting their green card to work here legally.
The solution is to stop allowing employers to hire illigal immigrants.
All people are valuable and deserve respect and diginity especially those immigrants who have contributed to our society in a positive way.
Legislators should use monies to make the process of legalization more efficient for America instead of building fences and letting police practice racial profiling. That spells disaster!
When was the last time you went out without your drivers license? If you are a citizen, you have nothing to worry about. This law isn't about harassment, this law is meant to deter illegal employment. This is a public display of ZERO tolerance for illegal immigrants working in Arizona.
The enforcement cost hasn't even been funded. It's more about proclaiming a new policy. Arizona is flooded with illegal workers stopping traffic and taking away jobs from citizens who are struggling to feed their families.
Once the message is made clear that there is no work for illegal immigrants, they will leave AZ and seek work elsewhere. The trail will create an influx of low wage job competition into New Mexico, California and Texas as well as every other state nearby. Some may even go home to Mexico and give up on the American dream.
But this means that it's each state's job to protect it's own citizens. Until the border is secure, the federal government can't get the support needed to address the problem in any realistic way. Without a secure border, the problem continues to grow. Any hint of amnesty encourages more illegal entry making the problem worse.
At least the state of AZ is protecting it's own. Next is Texas, New Mexico and California. Our leaders need to realize that they work for American citizens, not nationals from other countries who have come here to break our laws.
This is something that is long overdue. I was married to a Colombian lady who here in Miami when looking for work in retail stores was offered work at sub minimum wage levels in many privately owned stores. When she told them she had a green card and questioned the legality of this, she was told " So?, thats what we pay". This is directly due to the basically zero enforcement of immigration law on the street level. This thought that we are invading peoples rights is just plain wrong. I believe in immigration it just has to be done legally just like everything else in this country. Thats why we have laws. I have travelled extensively and in most places the police can and do enforce immigration/visa laws. why not here? Times change the people, and our economy, not to mention civil services can no longer afford to absorbe an endless amount of immigrants or those who manage to sneak in. What I find ironic is that when I talk to many latinos about this issue they agree. It is not fair to the people who, in many cases waited years to come here legally only to find they are exploited here as well. There are plenty of people who need jobs whether they were born here or not but are legal. Business owners want cheap labor So they can afford a lifestyle that if they were paying legal wages and benefits would be beyond their means. Hey maybe this could even help domestic auto sales, you do see an innordinate amount of German harware here in Miami. This is also not just confined to people of latin descent. There are alos large amounts of Russians, various eastern and western europeans here as well. A blanket amnesty is also not the answer. Again this would be terribly unfair to the people who came through the proper channels, including my ancestors.
i am an african immigrated here early 80s and an american citizen,this bill is simply targeting solely only one group of people hispanics. it simply spells 21st century APARTHIED.
Opponents of this bill are frightened that they are going to be targeted or racial profiled. I am sure that this may happen a little, but this is just one more tool which law enforcement can use to do it's job. Latinos who are here legally shouldn't worry – show your ID if your questioned and you're all good. I am sure that there will be some isolated problems, and even some police abuse – but the benefits of this bill for society far outweighs the potential negatives. We can no longer offer jobs and benefits to everybody comes here illegally. How would you feel if you had tickets to a concert, but when you got there you found out that they didn't have good security and thousands of people without tickets had filled the place, taking your seat and making the concert difficult to enjoy?
Yay for Arizona!!!!
It's not racial profiling, illegal is illegal! And if they're on the streets... (American Soil) who better than the police to take action against law breakers? Remember, they come from Latinamerica, China, Africa, Europe, even Canada on tourist visas and then they overstay their welcome. Enough is enough, Arizona has the right to protect itself from the physical and financial burden they cause. Fine the companies who hire them. It will open jobs for Americans.
The Arizona State Legislature is not wrong to impose rules and return the illegals to their own Country. Many States are feeling the same pressure, how to afford the costly measures of educating and providing free health care to illegal immigrant's, while maintaining the expected social programs for legal citizens. This economy demands that self preservation be the first law.
What rights do illegal immigrants have in the United States... so many people are confused by the legal representatives arguments.
Other States will follow Arizona's decisions, except for Illinois that has just increased it's sales tax to 10%, the highest in the nation...to take care of Mayor Daley's decision to make Illinois a safe haven for illegals.
Yea for Arizona ! This is wonderful. It is about time someone does something about all the illegal aliens living in this country! I live in California and am sick of the the millions of illegals here from Mexico, getting welfare and free medical care, on my dime!
The illegals say this new law is a crime? What do they think they are committing by being here illegally????? They are committing a crime!
How can we get California to follow Arizonia's lead???
This law is one that is long overdue. Our economy is on the brink of bankruptcy and many States are having to lay-off teachers and other public employees because they do not have the money to pay their salaries. Not all of this is caused by the Illegal Aliens that have swarmed into this country during the past 20 years, but a good part of it is. Our schools, hospital emergency rooms and social service agencies are overwhelmed by the increase of Illegal Aliens.
What is wrong with having your immigration status verified by local police officers? If you are here legally you have nothing to worry about, if not then you do.
Let's wait and see the full effect of this law if Gov. Brewer signs it. A dramatic increase in violent crime within Latino communities. People who are going to be afraid of the police when their only crime is being undocumented. It is another example of government creating legislation with unintended consequences. Do we need a secure border? Yes. Do we need to crack down on illegal immigration? Yes. Is providing a climate that allows for increased crime in the name of "immigration enforcement" the right way to go? No. It's time for Arizonans to realize that the issues are national ones. They need to communicate with their elected officials on the issue of immigration reform. Let's provide a way to legalize the people who are already here, and create a program that allows temporary workers to legally come into our country and subsidize the agriculture and construction that is Arizona's lifeblood.
This is good news. It is simple, require "US Citizen Yes or No" to be indicated on a driver's license, if yes you may pass. If No than supporting paperwork is required. Illegal immigration is a festering disease that needs to be cured.
this is a racist issue!!!! IF Arizona was concern with illegal activity they should focus their energy on the meth labs. AZ is one of the states with the biggest meth lab problems!!!!! drunk driving also kills people and its illegal. THIS IS RACIST When was the last time an irish bar was raided???? or a chinese restaurant???
IT'S HIGH TIME somebody started enforcing our immigration laws! That is what our FEDERAL government was sworn to do all along.
No other government is so MISGUIDED and PATHETIC as to tolerate 12-20 million illegal foreigners sneaking in. But we actually REWARD them with free social services, free education and free health care – and many misguided Americans want to reward them with citizenship!
We have been watching them slowly take over our country. The country our forefathers died to defend. Have we lost all common sense; all self-respect?
(A liberal who hasn't been lobotomized.)
I feel this is pretty pathetic that America has allowed this to go on for this long! Our troops have been overseas fighting in a war when our border security in this country is a joke. Bring our military to our border and lets get America back in order at the border. It's going to continue to be a serious issue until a bill like this is signed and passed! This isn't about racial profiling as they like to say. It will stop illegal smuggling -drug smuggling and gun trafficking, and Arizona won't be 1 big drop house anymore, etc...
I think the law, as described on CNN will be declared unconstitutional. Just being "suspicious" is not a legal reason to stop anyone. However, if a person is legally stopped for some legitimate reason, then the law has every right to demand identification; and in the absence of such, to confine that person until identification is established.
Other countries protect their borders from illegal immigration, but it's wrong if America does? I pity any Guatemalan who is caught sneaking into Mexico (on their way to America). They are treated very badly, sometimes forced into slave labor without pay or food. People complain about America's treatment of illegals, but show me a country which welcomes illegal aliens with open arms, giving them the same benefits and services which their own citizens enjoy.
I grew up in Phoenix, AZ. in the 40's-60's. I went to school with Hispanic children who all spoke English. No one had to teach them English. There was a difference in culture but there were not any major problems. We played sports together and talked like normal kids do. I returned to AZ. to live in the 2000's. I saw a huge problem. Young Hispanic people living in America, legal or not, do not feel they have to or should teach their children English. They seem to feel it's our problem to teach their children English, like we owe it to them. That has caused a division between the children and a huge economic damage to the school system. The language difference causes a immediate division in the children. I sat in doctors office's and listened to the young parents speak Spanish to their children and English to others. They should be teaching their children English. When people migrated to America from all over the world they learned English and became American citizens. Now, for some reason, the Hispanic's seem to think it is their right to come over our borders and expect us to take care of their health, food, provide a home and job and teach their children English and educate them all at our expense. Why is that? Many of the people that cross our border illegally steal, traffic drugs and people, join gangs, over run our cities. I left Arizona after 3 years. I can only speak from my years of growing up in Arizona. But this is happening all over America, only it is not only the Hispanic's.
I would love to see that bill pass and become law. Guess what happen after that, all the food, restaurant, Gas, Hotel, grocery prices with get 5 times more then now, no body will go to Arizona, no tourist will go to Arizona, business will doom. Then every one there understands the value of immigrants people make this country going. Infect they should do the same in all the States.
Its not racial profiling. Mexicans are not a racial group. Please stop with the lack of education here. This is nationalism. For example I break into your home and claim to be part owner. If the police come and do their job its not racism. they are taking someone that does not belong away from the area. I think those people that have citizenship and defend illegals are doing more harm than good because this bill protects illegals as well as citizens. It stops those from paying low wages to people working here and citizens will have services open to them that illegals have been using illegally.
If even a single person dies because of border drug trafficking and human trafficking through illegal immigrants, this bill makes sense. It is the right of the people to have a safe environment.
Since the a large percentage of AZ cops are Latino, but of this hand-wringing about profiling because they aren't as white as the cops is bogus.
We don't want them, we don't want their anchor babies, we don't want to give them welfare, we don't want the drug cartels. 'Nuff said
Matt Tindal, do you think that because they want to be here they should just be able to live here? You are very Niave in your politics.
I applauding to the people that passed the bill!!! Now we officially supported the hate and jealousy in our country.
We are talking about millions of people. Oh no, they are taking our money!!! Their kids getting education for our money!!! really. you dont want the KIDS to get education??? how is this different from sending your money to other countries to help their kids to study, Africa for example, their kids are different, or you have some sort of a stereotype?!
We can't just put 4 percent of our population in jail and then pay for their trip to their homes. It is more expensive than just live them alone. That's what we should do!! Make them pay taxes, learn english, make them show that they DESERVE the right to stay here. And give them right to live. And after that We have to secure the borders, and expand Arizona's experiment throughout the country. This way we will show our tolerance, wisdom, and it will prevent any new illegals from coming here.
I think this is outrageous and it has gone too far. Arizona is an a horrible state of mind right now, those who are undocumented are in fear to get something to eat or walk down the street to pick up their kids from school. Those who support the Bill are living it up not knowing how much this bill will affect our state. SB1070 is crazy and no one state should follow this example. It amazes me how anyone would support "racial profiling". Undocumented is not a race but the people who are targeted are not Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese, etc. they are Mexican. They do not intend to pull you over if you look Asian and ask you for documentation of legalization they will only suspect those who have brown skin and dark hair, who speak spanish and who fit into, what they believe are characteristics of a Mexican.
It is about time someone cracksdown about this problem in America. We can't keep on taking care of eveyone for free. The companies that hire illegals should be fined a steep fine ( at least $1000.00 for each worker) each time. They come over here and have one baby after another and our goverment keeps on paying them to do it. We pay for their housing, health care, food, schooling and so on. Color has nothing to do with beening here illegal. If they have their paper to be here legal then they should have with them at all times. Here in Alabama we have to have our car insurance paper,title and etc with us to drive a car or they will fine us and take our car. I have nothing against others coming to America but do it the right way. Stop the illegals immigrants from coming and not paying taxes and living off us that has paid all our life's. If caught here illegal~ send them (with their kids) back home then make them file papers to come back the legal way. The way it used to be done. Quit giving them jobs and all the freebe's and then they might leave and take their drugs with them. The law shouldn't be changed for them if wasn't for others, illegal is illegal. Other countries would not let this happen but only in America and America is going broke because of it.
It is about time some government orgaization took on a criminal activity instead of concerning themselves with charges for carry on baggage. You go Arizona!
You don't want illegal immigrants, no Legal immigrants either, because so many American are unemployed, then why even legal immigrants go to Arizona. The people, who sign this crap legislation, should ask there parents in which boot there parents or grand parent comes in. illegal immigrants are bad, but I am Legal immigrant. I am waiting for my GC application for past 8 years, spend so far almost $25000 to stay on Legal status on Lawyer and USCIS fees. All my savings on buying Home hear, I pay Real state Tax, my wife is a Science Teacher for past 9 years teaching in NY on visa. What if they denial my application, should I leave my home, and go back to my country, or stay illegal here, I have no right to work, Because my Legal status dose not allow me to get SSN. Where the humans right are, I am legal with no right to work and support my wife and my 20 months old kid. If you thing Legal Immigrants in Arizona is ok, than why my life on backlog for past 8 years, and it will take another 10 years to get the GC. It is same like in 90's no black people to commute with white people, so now no Dependent visa holder a legal Immigrants not allow to work with American. This country is made of immigrants, and if people like me, a legal immigrants feel insecure in this country then who will buy home, who will run business, who will do research and create technology. Only people like me put all there life savings in this country buying and maintaining home with still status on jeopardy.
Back in 1986, when we were overwhelmed by illegal migrants the solution of our politicians was to make them legal and tighten up on the borders. So we made many illigals of the time legal not because they warranted it but simply because they were here and politicians saw an easy way to deal with a tough problem; however, tightening up border security proved to be tougher than our politicians originally thought, so they chose to side step their responsibility and ignore it. As a result, we had swarms more illegals hoping to carve there own piece of the American pie. Problem is, many who mass migrate from Mexico are not here because they want to become apart of us or even like us. They just want a piece of the American pie to take back home. They’re here for the money and don’t really want to be apart of “us”. I use to live in a predominately migrant community a few years back and found out that some of the ones the ones that came over here illegally and became legal by hook or crook, actually own property in Mexico. They are steadily sending money “back home” and once they get to retirement age and can collect social security, they plan on moving back home to Mexico where the cost of living is cheaper. So our government will be sending a lot of Social security out of this country to be spent building up other countries economies.
Racism is “NOT” the issue of this bill! Illegal entry into our country is a “CRIME” and that, IS THE ISSUE! State and Federal laws are to be enforced against “ALL” who violate them. Otherwise, we have the worst kind of discrimination, which is the prosecution of “legal” citizens in our country while border raiders remain untouched…They have affected this country financially, economically, socially, and criminally!
Amnesty did not work 20+ years ago it only escalated the problem of illegal immigration. It sends the wrong message to the world concerning our borders and laws. Where is the security in that? If you want the unvarnished facts on illegal immigration follow this link and do your own research…Do not trust those who have their own agenda in protecting Illegal entry…
Thank you, Senator Russell Pearce for doing something about a growing threat to our nation and security; one that our federal government refuses to address!
This bill shouldnt just become effective in Arizona is should be put to use nationally.
The bill is blatanly racist.
What does an "illegal" look like?
This bill is a true representation of "a little too late". This is going to cost a lot not just monitarily, but also it will cost a lot of human lives to suffer unnessesarily. The money should be used elsewhere to correct the problem. The border patrol needs to be reorganized for example. The guards are not switched out enough. Communication between the u.s and mexico needs to be improved. Etc. Most Mexicans are only here to make money, not to corrupt the nation. There is a solutuion out there, please just don't make this another future-failed patch up job.Throwing money at the problem isn't going to solve anything. The u.s needs to help pull nexico out of the dark ages and become a better place to live. Then everybody will be moving back there.
How else should this problem be addressed. Maybe the left leaning liberals could come up with a better answer. Until an influx of white people illegally immigrating from Mexico becomes a problem, this may be the best solution.
Please pass this bill... All our states should follow .... Before it is to late.... a grandma in oregon.
Let the lawsuits begin!! Time to get rich off the Arizona police. Police departments are ill equipped to handle this issue of racial profiling, and that is just what lawyers are waiting for to get a bunch of people on class-action lawsuit. I predict a large class-action lawsuit is in the works.
John McCain should be profiled and questioned in Arizona. He was NOT born in the U.S. He was born in Panama. He should be deported.
I understand that many people believe that this is right to do, I mean this is dang , very good way to get by on discriminating people. I was born here and raised in a different country, my family is from the country, unlucky me, and I couldn’t attend school after 6th grade because I was a U.S. citizen. However, I came here to study and learn my language at least that is what my parents said. Now, I really dont not have any reasons to give the cops the opportunity to ask me if I am a legal immigrant, unless one day I am running late for work or school. Boy! I better be careful and not be speeding. I will be treated like an immigrant because I have a heavy accent because I didn’t learn my language until early teenage life. I know that this is just my situation and could not happen to everyone. However, there a lot of people who belong to third, fourth and up generations, and they look like they could be from any other country except from U.S. which probably have no clue of their heritage. I feel sorry for them because after this law they are going to feel just like an immigrant feels like; discriminated! just because of the way the look.
Take this in mind.
Cop; " Oh yeah, he looks Latino, let’s get him!"
Civilian: No sir, I am a U.S. citizen, I do not even speak any other language besides, English.
Cop: “Well, I am going to have to see some documentation.”
Thank God, for the power of Ignorance and people who are pushing this law to even give them more power to act like animals.
Hey Arizona Vote GOP? Wonder what it looks like when all of the intelligent people in your state leave? You won’t have to wait long, many of your best and brightest have already left and many more will follow.
Your state has become a home of reactionary right wing fanatics who see John McCain as a liberal. I will never again visit your dangerous gun packing brown hating haven. Your property values will continue to decline and jobs will all but vanish. It’s just as well, people shouldn’t live in the desert and when they do they just seem to get dumber. Enjoy your GOP paradise Arizona.
I think this is a good idea. It is a tough call but I think the right one. To comment to the professor declining to speak. I understand your frustration but at the same time you have to realize the purpose behind it. Sinking the education system and taking away jobs tax free from American citizens has to stop. On another topic, the cop out of my skin is darker so I get picked on is getting old. Does racism exist? Of course it does, from every race and background and it is wrong. However automatically assuming a bill like this is racist, in my opinion, is a racist comment in itself. The reason I believe it is racist is because you accuse all those with legitimant concerns as racist because you assume they are of an opposite race. It is time to start debating issues with tact instead of pulling the color card consistently. If you commit a crime you should pay the penalty. Is it unfortunate for those who are here legally? Absolutely it is, but there are things we all have to do that we do not like. However that is life.
I think that this bill will just cause a lot of racial tension. When you think illegal you automatically think hispanic, this bill gives the police the power to question every hispanic in arizona. This bill resembles the Health Care bill in its wording and support.
This is abhorent. For 60 yrs. (at least) Mexican people have provided cheap labor to all aspects of the American food industry.Working in orchards ,fields,canneries and packing plants for substandard wages,with no benefits, often in inhuman conditions. And all this time the irs, ins and hhs have turned a blind eye in the namme of big businnes.For this republican lawmaker to defend this in the name of protecting american jobs is absurd and hypocritical. Just exactly how would an officer (by observing someone driving by) determine if there was reasonable suspicion that they are an illegal alien?
I have 15 illegal living next to me and all of them have jobs. This is not fair to American citizen.
We work so hard to promote justice in our society and clearly the act of racial profiling is an issue of Injustice. This bill does not act on behalf of our American Core Values.
When did the seperation of families and the dehumization of people become the American Way?
Has anyone who's ever been 'unexpectedly' detained or questioned by law enforcement felt it was 'a good thing'? Does anyone in their right mind feel that Police Officers shouldn't use every means at their disposal to identify and interdict violations of the law? Especially, when these crimes are detected during the course of their normal enforcement duties. Seriously, if a Police Officer pulled someone over for failing to signal a turn, and then spotted guns or explosives or narcotics, or say a missing child in the car, should he simply right the ticket and say have a nice day? If for no other reason than the 'effective use of tax payer funded resources', Police Officers should be allowed to intervene in any law violation they encounter, especially if they suspect that a violation has occurred during the course of their normal duties. This is just a 'two-fer', where you detain a person on suspicion of a violation, and determine that multiple violations have occurred. This isn't racism, its simply good law enforcement practice!
GO Arizona! tired to see iilegals trashing our country
Imagration is a problem in the USA. The illegal aliens sneaking over from Mexico is out of control!! It's about time we protect our borders!! These illegal aliens do not belong here, there is no way to account for them!! As for the people who hire these Illeagls should be delt with fines and jail time. It's about time we take care of the people we can account for!!
Marc said "Because I have already been harassed by police (twice). I volunteered to witness for a crime, and I ended up being questioned about where I was born, how long was I in the states, if I were legal, show ID, show green card etc etc."
It not unusual that Police might want to validate their sources before proceeding in an arrest or going to trail. Obviously, Defense attorney's would use any method at their disposal to discredit the prosecution, so your assertion that you were harassed is more in your own mind than it is based in fact. Further, it's common police practice (watch the news whenever their a missing child or elderly person in your community) to question the witnesses, as well as the victims and their family members.
I have a better idea. Why don't they pass a law so that police must stop and investigate everyone to ascertain s/he is not a criminal for everyone who looks suspicious? That way, we can eliminate crime!
This is a return of Jim Crow laws only instead of it being aimed at blacks its now being aimed at anyone with brown skin, particularly Latino brown skin. Mr. Pierce should be ashamed of himself.
I applaud this law. I will gladly submit to carrying my papers around if it means getting rid of illegals (aka criminals) that are ruining our country.
Good riddance. I am proud of Arizona taking action that our federal government refused to do anything.
"What does Arizona plan to do with the children?"
Have you ever read the 14th Amendment sir? "Subject to the jurisdiction of" does not grant "brith right citizenship" no matter what....Our founders never envisioned people sneaking in illegally to give birth n order to establish citizenship....Birthright toursim is just one of many examples of how weak politcians and open boarder advocates are destroying this great nation...We are a nation of laws or nothing!
i am turkish mani am support about immigration people legal or illegal right now easy the blame people because illegal but we all immigrant well dont tell me because u or i come legal what ever this people is good people spanish people mostly illegal immigrant people hard working people we have to open the door our hard for them this life my freind no one live for ever we are all guest we coming and going ) des why we are all guest and immigrant have nice day god bless america god blees all good people america
The people in Arizona are saying that do not want immigrants in their state. I suggest all immigrants who can move to another state move. If enough immigrants move it will start to affect the economy of the state and they will start to change their minds. Who is going to do the lower end jobs that most Americans won't do? Also, people who support immigrants should not travel to the state.
According to real estate law, everybody has the right to move to and live on any piece of vacant land they choose.
Undocumented workers have given so much our society! The united states has caused this problem, they have caused the devaluation of the peso in Mexico! These immigrants just want to stay out of poverty and provide for their families. This is a terrible bill that will not fix anything except discriminate even more against communities of color. Is Arizona gonna stop white people who could be "illegal aliens" from Canada? I don't think so.
That's what California needs too! In fact all of America! illegals don't help the US. They don't have SS#'s, they work with pin #'s and false papers which pretty much is identity theft. They drive w/o drive license, so if they kill someone they just run to Mexico, then they come back after about a month with a new identity and act like nothing happened.
They are taking our jobs, so our young kids can't get a job. Also, they have California broke. They have all the benefits that should be for Americans only. This is not racism, its the LAW. If there is no LAW for this or any law regarding rules to live by, why have them? By the way, for example, if Guatemalans were to hold rallies in Mexico like these protesters for immigrants(from Mexico) are doing, they would be SHOT ON SITE by law enforcement and even assaulted by the Mexicans citizens themselves with out any reperuccusions from their attackers! But it's funny how you mention those facts and they always seem to justify the means.
Finally some lawmakers have the courage to state that illegal immigrants have committed a crime as stated in the U.S. law system and have no rights whatsoever in this country except as any other criminal has. They can justify it any way they want but why can't a bank robber do the same, I needed it to make a better life for my family. Nothing against immigrants, my grandparents and father were immigrants but legal. Congress also needs to change the law that children born here are automatically citizens of the U.S. That is just plain stupid, I'm beginning to believe that most of our lawmakers are on some kind of illegal substance and make decisions after being stoned
I am all for it. I don't think legal citiznes should take it personally, these people knew how to come here properly and chose not to obey our laws from the beginning, why is it our job to walk on egg shells for them? There are consequences for not doing things properly, and this should be a lesson learned. But then again I believe the borders need to be closed completely. We have terrorist problems, economic problems, and high crime rates and poverty because we allow ourselves to be vulnerable to it. This cannot be compared to Hitler, thats an excuse to ignore the facts. I would never walk into Russia and say I want to be here, I want everything that is available to its citizens, although I do not legally belong there and will not be responsible enough to enter the country the RIGHT way. Seperate whoever they knew that was a risk when they snuck over the border.
As an American citizen and a veteran I am appalled at how far we have not gone in terms of humanity and racism.
There are those that are anti-immigration which are nieve in terms of the economic impact on business.
Ilegal immigrants have not been at the root of homegrown terrorist. They would prefer to keep a low profile to avoid being on the radar by being law biding employees and concumers of products.
The loss of American jobs to foreign countries is the root cause of the issue frustration in America right now. No one in America wants to do the low level jobs that the so called "Ilegal Aliens" perform.
Where Americans need to take their frustration is to the large corporations that took the jobs abroad after President Bush gave them a tax break to create jobs in America. Create a excise tax for all products that took those jobs abroad and sold us out. Afterall the tax breaks were intended to create jobs in America.
Quit racial profiling and being using Gistapo tactics. Do Hispanic citizens have the right to stop light skinned people for papers. After all there are Canadians that are not brown skinned.
What does "illegal" look like? Something tells me it's going to look a lot like "Hispanic." In other words, I doubt the cops are going to be too concerned with deporting Canadian illegals.
I am absolutely disagree with Dr. Charle LeChance : You speak as yourself or repreasent US citizen ? Listen Dr Charles whatever tittle behind you OK . I am Indonesian root and I proud of that, do you know 300 Millions people living in my country. And 90-95 % they are muslims and they know christianity only less than 5 %. Do you know what happen in Indonesia ? Indonesian muslim polulation, give all christian people to chance to practises and protect their religion.
You are Dokter but you speak like Dog in the middle of Khafillah on the dessert ! How about Oklahoma Bomber are they muslim ? Are they good people ? Your brain and your butt were too closed, too BAD you got tittle Dr. behind your name.
Some of you guys see immigrants as criminals as people that take away your rights & privileges.. And I got to say you guys are so selfish to only see the negative part of immigration... However believe it or not there is positives upon this whole situation.. You say immigrants take jobs away from americans .. Now i want to know how many of you would like to work at farms from early morning to late hours, under the hot sun? America is forgetting about fairness and yes i do understand they are here illegal and that is that and it's also wrong... But this new law is not the right solution for it ... You guys also say they don't pay taxes but yet some of them do... I'm sure that with an immigration reform all this problems would be resolve ...
Welcome to the Soon to be bankrupted State of Arizona, there was a question about who is going to paid for the enforcement of this Law and Pearce said that it will get paid by cities, counties and state goverment, LOL what an idiot
like Arizona have a lots of money to support something like that
The Law makes no sense. It will not stop illegal immigration and will only promote suspicion and prejudice. If they want to stop illegal immigrants, then allocate money to extend the wall. That would be the effective method to stop illegal immigrants.
As for the story of the man who was rear-ended. Hit and run happens all the time. It isn't just illegal immigrants doing it. It is easy to blame the weaker members of society, but that does not make it right. If you want to blame someone then blame the immorality of that individual and not his/her entire category of people.
Being an Arizona resident myself, I believe this bill is absurd. Racial profiling should never be legal. Why should my family, being legal mexicans, have to carry around our proof of citizenship just because we are mexican. We have lived in Arizona for longer than most of the people who are passing this legislation and now our race is being attacked. I hope our governor is intelligent enough to veto this bill.
The main reason I don't agree with this is that America seems to think that all illegal immigrants are brown.
Votes! It is all about votes. Our politicians need them. If dogs could vote, we would all be barking. It is just that simple. We are being sold out by our greedy politicians in every election. It makes my blood boil everytime I see someone waving a Mexican flag in this country or I am asked if I want to speak English. Wake up America, we are broke and yet we give illegals free health care, a free education, etc. Are we crazy, or what?
Since the Federal Government has refused to do anything to stop the flood of illegal immigration into the United States, it has left no other choice than for the States to protect themselves. It's good to see Arizona stand up to this crisis and pass legislation that actually has teeth. I'm sure that there will be other states that will follow suit.
Heres the thing Mexicans may not be a racial group but because they don't look white they will be racially profiled to because of that there will be people that are in fact here legally that will be stopped because they are suppected of being illegal. Who's going to want to go to AZ if you look like you're of Mexican decent you'll be stopped and prove that you have documentation. I don't know about you but I don't carry my birth certificate with me at all times so how am I going to prove that I'm a U.S. citizen without it? Are they going to follow me home? Its just rediculous that you want to get rid of the people that broke there backs working jobs that everyone else doesn't want to do. The day I'll be okay with this is the day that I see and American goes out and a works a field worker for a living without demanding that they are paid more than minimum wage with benifits.
I'm all for the cracking down on illegal immigration, but this does not seem constitutional. I can forsee the Supreme Court excersizing Judicial Review on this one and deeming it unconstitutional. This is a violation of the fourth amendment of the constitution, an unreasonable search and seizure. Yes, the Bill of Rights is meant to protect legal citizens, but what if they were a legal citizen, and they are searched based on their ethnicity? This is highly controversial and will most likely be appealed by the Federal Government.
Look I understand some people see this as racest but its not. Thay will not be targeting one race. Thay will be targeting all races brown is not a race nor is mexican. Mexican is a nation not a race so get it right. Look I am a legal resident and I have lived hear sence the age of 3 I am 25 now I love this country and I would die to protect it. I am in the proces to become a US citizin. And even thow I have seen how both sides work I have chosein the US over mexico. Look I think this it the right thing to do, things need to change in the way we treat illigals. We can't really report them to ins or ice to get them out and thay have to commite a crime in order for them to be removed even thow comming hear illigaly was a crime to begin with that is just plain rediculise. That just give them the right to stay hear and over populate this country. Ancker children are a joke as well I know of at least 23 poeple that I know personaly that have had childern in the us just to get a chance to remain hear if thay get caught. Why would you wanna live a place were you are afraid of getting sent back at any givin time. Just go back and retern legaliy. And the over popultation in the school system omg. Look I just frear for my child that will have to lose valuable time with teachers because illigal immigernts over populate the class room. And the fact that I know I have to teach her spanish. Not because I want to. But because ill have to. Just so she might have to get a job at mcdonalds. How sad it that. Just because the lazy alians chose not to lean english. So I'm glad that this is happing. And just so you know you DO have to carry your papers or card on you acording to the ins paper work you signed. If you didn't bother to read it well now you know. For for the person that was complaing about that you rey have no reason to because you must carry it any way.
protect our borders? hmmm what a novel idea wasnt that in our original constitution? i wish they would hurry along with the new constitution, this old one seems worthless ,
ii for one thiink thiis law iis not faiir...why do this to many iillegal iimiigrants in ariizona...thiis country was made for liiberty but as tiime has change iit got forgotten that thiis iis a free country no one iis suppose to liive iin thiis world wiit beiin afraiid of someone...you people that are ok wiit thiis are all bunch of stupiid people that don'tknow how liife iis hard all the thiinks an iimigrant has to go thru to come to thiis country just to be someone iin thiis liife...for an iimmigrant any job iis better than nothing any kiind of money they could make iis better than nothiin...but for someone non iilegal they want the most better jobs nd gets paiid well why because they know that they could work anywhere wiith no fear people thiink and say that iillegal iimmigrants are a huge problem to thiis country and state but thiis country was made by iimmigrants iif you dont know...poliice stoppiin someone because of theiir skiin color iis somethiin they need to be ashame of themselvs for doiin thiis...iimmigrants make thiis country nd are the most hard workers ii dnt thiink you would liike to work from sunriise to sunset with only gettiin paiid miiniium wage you wont liike to work iin the fiields all the tiime wiitout iimmiigrants you wont be were u are riight now...and the presiident should stop thiis thats why hes the presiident...nd thats why the majority of latiinos voted for hiim because he saiid he would stop famiiliies gettiin pulled apart nd we are stiill seeiin famiiles gettiin pulled apart nd that hurts to many....this new law shouldn't be ariizona wiill loose many thiings many farm workers nd loose iis stauts....
I am all for the law! I hope it can spread to all 50 States and free this Country of the illegal aliens. This illegal immigration has to stop! Our Federal Governent has FAILED us big time in enforcing our immigration laws and the illegal aliens just snub their nose at our laws.
Illegal aliens are destroying this Country, and one would have to be almost blind not to see this. How much longer do we have to support these illegal aliens? How much longer do we have to school their illegal alien children? How much longer are we going to let them have our jobs? How much longer are we going to put up with all the crime, stolen identities, forged documents, fake green cards? How much longer are we going to allow these illegal aliens to send money out of this Country and bring our Country down? Oh, amnesty will correct all this. WRONG! Nothing will change except we wouldn't be able to call them illegal aliens any more. Let's get rid of these illegal aliens! Let's get them back to their own Country where they belong!
It's so easy to enter this Country LEGALLY. Just apply and wait. How easy is that?
You go, ARIZONA! Round them up and ship them out.
What a shame!
I was planning to look into the possibility of buying a home somewhere in Arizona. However, looking at this shameful actions that threaten the integrity of human beings I will definitely cancel such plans.
Those people who came from across the oceans years ago did not have any papers and now they want to expel people who come to work to the US.
I hope the bill becomes law and withstand constitutional scrutiny. Than we can see laws like this in more states.
I have a feeling the governor won't sign it she has been awfully quiet on the issue which leads me to believe she is getting an earful from both sides as we speak.
There is a need for immigration reform, but this is profiling. I wouldn't want to be working in law enforcement in Arizona. What do they plan to do...hire about a hundred thousand more policemen/women?
What is the criteria for stopping someone? Boy...this is murky. It's bold...but very, very murky. A Pandora's box.
All four of my grandparents were immigrants. They came to the upper-midwest because the economy was horrible in Norway.
The big trouble is that the drug warlords have taken over the border. That is where the battle is.
Sounds like a Republican-sponsored government takeover that will cost tens of millions of dollars to me. Think I'll join the coffee party. LOL
Protecting the borders is not wrong.
Profiling of any kind 'is' wrong. If it happened to any of us, we'd be hiring an attorney to file a lawsuit.
Immigration reform is needed badly. President Obama campaigned on this issue...and has plans to get to it. He saw saving the economy and reforming healthcare as the first priority.
I'd imagine that all Republicans will be getting in line to help him. LOL
Since the Federal Government has done nothing to stop Illegal Immigration into Arizona, the state had no choice but to try to solve the issue effecting its citizens. Janet Napolitano, as Governor, did everything she could to put roadblocks in the way of the Maricopa Sheriff, when he tried to solve the problem. Thank God she is gone!
It's laughable that Obama put her in charge of our Homeland Security. Maybe he knew she would encourage open borders, like she did as Governor. Just 3 more years of Obama, that's what I keep telling myself.
I think all states should have this law,that problem is contributing factor to a lot of american citizens not being able to find jobs.and from what i have seen they are't really friendly to american citizens.So why would we wan't people like that here.to set up a country within our country?I see them in stores wiring lots of money to where they come from.taking money out of U.S. circulation.they don't pay payroll tax either.They get around that law of not hiring illeagls by working for temporary services.I have seen over and over where they discourteus hostile attitudes toward americans here.so why be here.
hopefully she signs this thing. Illegal's, mexican/canadian/etc, are just that, illegal. Most importantly, it's a federal law they are breaking. As a US citizen, if I break a federal law, guess what, I guess to go to prison. Mexicans seem to have rights that Americans dont, immunity to our laws. Plenty of mexicans come here legally, so whoever says we dont let them come here legally is stupid.
And to those saying that the illegals take jobs americans wont take, apparently know nothing about business. Supply and Demand. We have one of the highest unemployment rates in the country(those numbers only count those actively looking. If i stop looking cause I gave up, they dont count me as unemployed. So the actual unemployment rate is in the upper teens, if not twenty percent).
If employers cant employ illegals anymore, pay rates go up, citizens take these jobs, and since they'll have more money, they'll spend more money, thereby create more jobs. This isn't rocket science, though I guess common sense is just as difficult to comprehend.
Its about time, I hope this passes onto California, I work in healthcare and time after time I have seen undocumented workers come into the ER or ICU with 20-30 different IDS..... no insurance and leaving million dollar bills for tax payers to pick up. We need to take care of our citizens.... not hand out to those who come illegally.
As long as we forget that we are a nations of immigrants, we will only make the situation worse. First, when we fail to enforce our laws it's not because of immigration issue, but failure of law enforcement. Second, our immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. Third, we are a people founded on illegal immigration of our ancestors who traveled far to escape whatever reasons they had to occupy a land not theirs. This should be reason enough for us who came after them to be accepting of immigrants who come to our country as long as they are not threats to our society. Fourth, immigrants "legal or not" who can prove that they are good citizens, are working or are able to work, are not a liability to our way of life, and who profess to defend our "home of the free and the brave should be given US "citizenship".
To pose the blame on the victim and not on the actual structural problem cause a path to a regressive government. Government that doesn't take on the issues and builds paths to economic well-being that are understanding to the people that suffer from poverty is a regressive government. A modern government, in my personal view, has to be able to respect our human-rights, above any other law is our human-right.
It is irresponsible, I must add, to blame the victim. Those who do not understand what immigration struggle is are tyrants and uneducated on the issue.
If the USA Authorities were doing their job those illegal aliens would and should not have made it to the USA in the first place. Unless, by design they were intentionally made to be here. Good Luck!
This is going to far and will cause a dominoe effect. Imagine those with "TPS" status and have 1 misdameanor. With the 2nd, if the bill passes, thousands of TPS holder would get denied and either put in removal proceedings or be exposed if they gave a deportation order.
I live in Texas. My family has resided in S. Texas for 5 generations. For the past few years, my family in S. Texas has had illegals approach their house, run through their yards and hide in the creek behind the house. My sister is 76 yrs. old and babysits her grandkids. Her son and family live across the field. His two sons cannot play on the creek (as generations have done) because illegals hide there. The law does not come or waits until the next day. My cousin owns a ranch close to the border. Illegals cross their ranch and trash their out buildings constantly. We citizens have to live like this so some people will not be inconvienced by being asked for proof of citizenship? Good for Arizona-Texans want to live free of concern for their safety. The Federal Gov. needs to do it's job for citizens-close the border to illegals and drugs.
Note to Prof. Marc. You won't have a problem in Arizona as long as you carry your green card, whcih the law requires you do.
To simplify this I have to ask all the people against it a question.
Would you allow me to enter into your yard or home unchallenged, because I'm an illegal passing through and need to use your facilities while doing so, oh and I will be free to help myself to anything you have since after all I'm just a poor lawbreaking illegal you shouldn't mind. Well I do mind I have to live by the Laws and anyone coming into my country must do the same especially when they are here illegaly they have no rights. COMPRENDE!
What part of illegal don't they understand. If you are illegal you don't belong her so get out immediately. If a business hires an illegal they should be put out of business immediately. 12 million u.s. citizens are out of work and there are 12 million illegals here taking their jobs away. It is a myth that illegals only come here to pick lettuce. Every major building site in every state uses illegals to do framing, concrete, roofing, siding, and landscaping.
This law may be an inconvenience, but it is important that lawbreakers, in this case illegal immigrants, be found and dealt with. If we are to be a nation of law, then some harsh measures may be required. In any case the law will be less of a problem than the effects of the illegals immigrants, so it is a good law.
Profiling is not of itself bad. You waste law enforcement time by randomly selecting people to question. If we had a large influx of Hottentots, questioning caucasian grandmothers would not be useful. If people with brown skin do not want to be disturbed, then they should help to send the illegal immigrants back. When the problem is resolved, the law will no longer be needed.
It is about time someone did something to fix this very serious problem. Enough is enough!
I applaud Arizona for taking the lead. My hope is that New Mexico, Texas and California will follow Arizona's lead.
We can force American citizens to buy defective health insurance from corrupt private corporations looking at the bottom line, but we cannot screen a population for immigration status. Seriously? Everyone who screams racism does not understand statistics and probability. This law is overdue and it is absolutely correct for the States to step up and take the issues of sovereignty seriously. The FEDs have dropped the ball because of special interests and a desire to see this country further fragmented.
Enforce the laws.
Vote out anyone who does not support regulation of immigration and the sovereign rights of citizens.
No, it does not go too far. There is a legal way to come into this country. Why are people ignoring this? Come here legally or expect the states, certainly not the federal government, to send you home.
It is very sad that we gave up on the federal government protecting and representing the American people who are citizens, or here legally.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or hotel room, you must do it in English !As a matter of fact...if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English! My Father & Grandfather didnt die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over & disrepect ours. Follow the laws and enter the Country the correct way, otherwise I consider you a "Law Breaker" right off the bat. I have been in Arizona for 16 years & I am fed up. Pass the Bill Mad'am Governor!
I like how people are saying that this is "racial profiling" yet Ms. Garcia refers the "janitors" that this law would be going after. Now theres some profiling! Pathetic! This law is fabulous and just what this coutry needs! I am all about people wanting to come to the United States expecting to better their lives but they have an opportunity to do it in a legal way. I'm sorry illegals- don't take advantage of the system by being here illegally and then complain having your "rights" exploited by being profiled- YOU AR AN ILLEGAL! Those aren't YOUR rights!
Illegal immigrants complainig about their "civil liberties" is about the same as a shoplifter stealing a product then getting home and complaining about how they don't like the product.
I believe that it is a step in the right direction. I live in a state with a large population of illegal aliens and the amount of criminal activity by them is staggering. People who sympathize with them obviously do not live in an area with a huge influx. They are hurting our educational system, our welfare system, etc. Round them up and get them out!
While acknowledging immigration fraud was probable, the corrupt courts awarded a Guatemalan immigrant my home, car and assets without due process or equal protection. I will not pay taxes until I have recovered what was stolen and I have not filed tax documents in years. If justice can't be found in the courts, I'll keep what's owed by the government to secure justice for myself. The Feds can drag me into court if they want and I'm ready for the challenge.
Keep in mind that our wonderful legislature here in Arizona also passed a bill prohibiting "research into animal-human hybrids." We have far too many members who have held their seats forever and are re-elected just because they're incumbants, but irresponsibly waste time and money while pushing their own an agenda that is only borderline-legal.
I am a naturalized U.S. Citizen, but I look like an Indian , so am I supposed to carry my US passport in arizona (part of my new country) in fears of being arrested if I don't prove to a cop that I am a U.S. Citizen? , This bill is downright racist and they know it.
There are immigrants (legal aliens, residents) that pay a lot of money to have a spot in the US the right way. it doesn't seem fair to me that some people just walk accross the borders and stick around and enjoy all the US has to offer. AZ may be a little harsh about it, but it sounds like the right thing to do to me. If you come into the States the right way, you are made aware of your rights as a resident and what the US expects of you. You earn your spot here instead of 'stealing' it...
You have just opened the floodgates! Do you really think these illegal aliens are going to turn around and go home?
They are going to exodus into other States such as Texas and California!
If all the illegals got kicked out overnight you can bet the kitchen staff for most restaurants would disappear that same night. There should be consequences for entering the U.S. illegally but kicking them all out will hurt local businesses too.
The issue for me is that it simply won't work. It's fighting a problem at the wrong end: supply instead of demand. If you really want to stop illegal immigration, cut off the jobs and they'll stop coming. Enforce the laws against hiring illegals, game over. Truth is that few really want to cut off the supply of cheap labor. All the talk about border control is just BS. If you really want to stop it, it's frankly pretty easy. Levy a serious fine on anyone who hires an illegal. When they know that there are no jobs, they'll stop coming.
Obviously the mexican border is the only border people worry about....don't mind the terrorist coming in from the canadian border or the the student visas given to people coming here but not attending the schools.....yeah...that is absolutely great......I agree the drug war on the borders have got to stop. But if you think about it.....you do what Arizona is doing to a black man or any other race for that matter. Someone is going to raise a stink about racial harrassment...and win.
First I can name a country that treats at least some of it's illegals with welcome and provide equal rights (except voting) to illegals; local authorities knowingly allowed me to reside illegally in that country until the culmination of Same Sex marriage equality was completed 2 years after I was officially an illegal. I agree with the Sheriff that the problem has to be dealt with both on the interior as on the borders, but until there is effective border control, comprehensive effective immigration reform is not possible. However every case must be looked at under its individual merits – while I was illegally residing in Belgium, I was not receiving any direct government services (other than the general benefits of a socialized single payer health care system), working (for a non Belgian company) and paying taxes.
Well, it's a good thing the Indigenous people from this continent didn't close the borders. Where would you be if they had engaged in immigration crackdown? Exactly what defines one as an illegal immigrant? Welfare? Would that include land given to homesteaders? Round 'em up and get em' out? That might have been more effective if done in the 1600's.
I am a Caucasian woman with blond hair and green eyes. If a Caucasian woman with blond hair and green eyes committed a crime and the police were looking for this person, I would have absolutely no problem with being stopped and questioned as to my possible guilt or innocence. This is how our laws protect us all. There is nothing wrong with the ultimate intention of Arizona's plan. It should be this way throughout our country. Since when does it make sense that a criminal should be able to say, "Yes I committed a crime but it's not fair for you to punish me? Oh, and by the way, speak my language when you talk to me, don't dare tell me I can't have my baby here so she can be citizen automatically, and provide any and all medical care we need, too." Are we nuts, or what?
congratulations arizona for doing what the federal government wont !why should any us citizen pay taxes when the government refuses to inforce its own laws ? if i dont pay my taxes i go to jail ! if an illegal doesent pay taxes he gets free medical a cash paying job , free education and endless charity ! plus his employer doesnt pay taxes either , or health ins , or disability , or soc sec and gets rich ?illegal means illegal ! arrest them put them to work on a chain gain and then deport them ! let there employers due time right next to them ! i wish my left wing disfuntional , broke , corrupt state of ny would do the same as arizona !!!!!!!!!!!!
finally one state has the guts to pass a good law. we have enough home grown criminals here without adding foreign nationals who are here illegally commiting more crimes. Coming into the country illegally is against the law.Enforce the laws of our country and stop catering to all these organizations who have no regard for the welfare of all our citixens .
Do the supporters of this bill understand that even US ethnics can, and WILL be stopped and everyone has to carry some proof of citizenship, like a passport or birth certificate?. We have fought against national ID cards for a long time. This is a huge step into the world of the book 1984.
Some countries in Europe are requiring pre-immigrants to observe a movie about the daily life and culture of that country. The point is to let them know that if they observe some cultural or social action that they strongly do not agree with then they should not apply to live in that country. The United States should consider such a program. Anyone applying to become a citizen of this country should be tolerant and respectful of all other Americans.
1. Stop using the politically correct term of undocumented immigrant. By definition an undocumented immigrant is an illegal alien.
2. Do not cheapen my natural born citizenship by granting a path way to citizenship for illegal immigrants. These people have knowingly broken our countries entry laws and they should not be rewarded with a de facto amnesty. It’s probably unrealistic to try to deport ten million or more people. My suggestion is to let them stay but because of their illegal entry status grant them some kind of permanent resident visa with the proviso that they can never become a United States citizen.
3. Although most illegal immigrants are from south of our border, it should not be overlooked that illegal immigrants enter this country across all of our borders and from many different countries.
4. Illegal immigration suppresses the wages of low income American citizens and legal aliens. The labor unions know this.
5. Gather up all illegal immigrants with a criminal record including but especially violent gang participants and send them back to wherever they came from.
6. I believe that too many illegal immigrants come to the United States purely for financial gain. I do not believe they care anything at all for American culture, traditions, history and the diversity of this country. They come here and undercut wages and then send that money to their home country. How does that help the United States of America?
What is the big deal with this bll? I emigrated to the U.S. from the U.K.
in 1960 as a legal resident alien. We had to carry our Green Alien
Regisration Card with us at all times and every January had to go to the U.S. Post Office and fill out a card to notify the authorities of our
present address. I was happy to comply with the rules then and
today's immigrants should be happy to do the same, after all it is a
privilege to be allowed to live and work in the USA. It took five years or more in those days to become a U. S citizen, which I finally did in
By the way back then an application for a visa to the U.S. took five
written references, one from law enfrocement, one from your priest or pastor and three others. Plus a medical exam at the US Embassy including chest xray and blood tests and an interview with a consular
officer which took 3-6 months!
When my Grandparents on both sides of my family came to this country from a far they had to jump through all kinds of Gov. hoops had to have paper's an everything else so that the Gov. can collect taxes from them when they got a job. There wasn't any free health care or much of anything else back then an there shouldn't be . Make them do it the right way or stay the hell home. I don't see why things should be any different now. Nobody ever gave us anything free.Hell we are in debt from the day we are born.!!!!!!!!!! Most of the people that want the illegal here an free are mostly people born here an know nothing about immigration an what there ancestors had to go through.
Thank you Arizona, Sure hope they will really follow the bill and make it "illegal" like it should be and (truely enforce this bill.) No playing games get er done!!! Really hope California follows suit !!!!!!! As well Texas should be right on their tails. Calling all border States, Please think about this and make it happen in your State as well. Sooner the better.( illegal imigration) is just what it says "illegel" get it ???
Its about time. We have a law that makes it illegal to try to cross into the Country, but nothing that says it illegal for you to be here once you are here. We need this law. Go Arizona!
Secure the border! Send the message SOUTH that there are NO jobs for illegals here. The gravy train has stopped and there is NO REASON to come here illegally. The pervasive flow of illegal immigrants needs to stop completely before any expectation of REFORM comes into the light. Interior enforcement is KEY.
Without a strong cooperation and effective enforcement at the workplace, the IRS, all local social service offices, the local police and the local business authorities, there will not be compliance to prohibit jobs from being taken by illegal immigrants. There needs to be enforcement on the interior as well as at the border.
Also a very high TAX needs to be added to every dollar that is sent out of the country to discourage folks coming here to work and send their money back home. Once those dollars leave they are not taxed or spent in the community further deteriorating the economy of the community. Why is this so hard to understand?
Way to go Arizona. All 50 states should get some backbone and stand up for United States citizens instead of the other way around.
The immigration bill for signature should be vetoed.
Our state is financially destitute. This will be an excuse for every police agency in the state to demand new personnel, vehicles, weapons, communication, conferences, etc.
This is a federal problem and we the people of Arizona should not have to pony up huge amounts in spending to solve a problem that should be shared with the rest of the country.
clean up....ilegal immigration.....
I think its an excellent bill. If you are a legal immigrant you have nothing to worry about.
I live in Los Angeles, and i understand the need to have immergrants, but if they break the law, they shouldnt be allowed to live in our country anymore. for their safety and ours!
keep up the good work Arizona, get those murders out of our jails and country!
I believe the border should be strengthened, and illegal Immigration stopped. However this just feels to me that Arizona will now be asking for your "papers" as if you where in some Cold war eastern European nation stuck behind the Iron Curtin.
Wasn't Freedom of Travel one of our biggest touting points during the Cold war?
Good for Arizona! It's about time the states got tough on
illegals. The federal government has been derilict in their
duty to protect American citizens. The Governor of Arizona
has my full support.
Today in the newscast, at 10AM (Wed) Federika talked about the anti-immigrant law enacted by the Arizona Legislature. She then showed a clip with legendary anti-immigrant Sheriff Arpaio in further support of this law. How about interviewing someone that opposes that law? It would be refreshing. Thank you.
I think its amazing that this is even being considered. I would be be okay if they were simply asked to check papers when they pull someone over, but the idea of me getting stopped for being half Mexican and dark is absolutely crazy to me. and if i don't have my id with me i'm going to be taken to a holding cell? for real? i don't speak Spanish, i drive a German car, and i'm a huge fan of apple pie, I don't know what makes me any less American than you. MAYBE if they just set up check points that stopped everyone, and everybody from every race that forgot their ID that day can go to jail and pay fines.
How do u profile a Illegal? dark with a mustache and paint on his jeans and sombrero? What do u people think an illegal looks like?
I live in Tucson and its ALL Mexicans.
Sorry if i'm misinformed, i don't really know "whose chair depends on what or who is trying to make political gain"
im just and average Graphic Design student that doesn't have the time or money to deal with these new laws.
The 4th says "persons " therefore this law is unconstitutional. Just ask sheriff jones in Butler country Ohio. He just paid $100,00.00 for doing just what the AZ laws says
ITS ABOUT TIME!! Our country has been "invaded" by MILLIONS of illegals, who did not scarifice anything, but enjoy OUR (US citizen's) freedoms! Outrageous crimes, and blatant disregard for US laws along with taxing valuable resources in all 50 states, is reason to enforce the existing laws and pass new laws like Arizona! GOOD GOING ARIZONA! GO USA!
As a retired military man I am well versed in what it takes to keep America safe and free. Laws like this are not only necessary but a must if we are to ever get a handle on the illegal immigration problem. Those who say it promotes racial profiling also complain that we are not doing enough to keep America safe. You can't have it both ways people. It's the cost of living in a country that promotes a safe living environment. If you can't understand or you don't appreciate what others are doing to keep you safe and it bothers you that much then LEAVE!!
It is about time someone upheld the existing laws when the government fails to do what it is responsible for by law. . Arizona should be commended. It is there state that is over ridden with illegals and the crime that comes along with them.
We are not talking about legal hard working legal aliens but ILLEGAL people of all races.
People against this are concerned about individual rights without realizing this is all about VOTES. The first thing a powerful Latino group threatened the government with was to hold back the Latino vote????
This is ridiculous. Our nation was founded on immigration, for us to even consider a 'wall' to guard our borders is no different than the Soviets and the Berlin Wall! It is the same! We are keeping people out who don't believe in what we do as a country. This is a 'free' country! Border walls, regulations and ect is communism. If Mexican people want to come here so much? Why don't we just come to them, I mean the the Afghans and Iraqi's did not want us there...it is not like they are coming over here. Mexican Citizens would love to see help from American's, but their leaders are too egotistical and would never want to be answering to someone else such as a Republic. So is ours, jealousy follows greed...America Stop Being Greedy!
sounds like some more mean people , we are all humans put here together, big deal, they are just hateful, Hope they are standing beside an immigrant when they get to the Golden Gates and the immigrant gets in and they are turned away
It's a shame we need to take a step like this but I am behind it 100%.
In Fla. the illegal aliens are almost as numerous as in Texas, Arizona and California. I hope it proves helpful and our state adopts it.
As far as racial profiling goes, if you have your legal drivers license and proof of residence and your not doing anything wrong, what is the problem? If you get stopped for a check, it may take a few minutes out of your day but that's all. If you're here illegally you do have something to worry about and should be looking for a ride home, regardless if you are brown, white, yellow, black, blue or green.
This law is something that should have been done long ago. I agree with the law.
People that are fighting the immigration bill do not live with the day to day issues that we in Arizona do. Such as traffic accidents involving illegals with no insurance who run back across the border or commit crimes and do the same. They flood our schools and take public services which they do not pay for. I encourage the governor to sign the bill.
Children born to illegal immigrants while in the US become US citizen's and then qualify for Medicaid, welfare, and education. These programs were not established when this country was founded and the constitution was enacted. Perhaps it is time to establish that only children born to a US citizen can become a US citizen by birth. AZ just wants to send illegals home before they can populate.
I was listening to Cafferty yesterday and he associated illegals from the border of mexico with 911 they didn't fly those planes into the twin towers if anything they probably helped build them .
I support what Arizona is doing. Stop with the racial claims. The reality is that we are flooded with Illegals. A good number of those illegals are criminals, drug dealers, gang members. Do you want them in your neighborhood? Everyone pictures the hardworking Mexican family as illegal. Those are the ones we need to SAVE but not at the cost of allowing the bad one to remain too. BUT NO AMNESTY!
Want to know how brazen this is now? In LA there is a car dealership that has a sign out front that says: No License? No problema. No insurance? No problema.
Yet police officers will tell you half the cars they stop, the people(regardless of race) are driving without a license, suspended, or on probation or with warrants.
BofA wasoffering credit cards/bank accounts to ILLEGALS. New Haven CT was offering havens to them.
At the rate we are going Kiss America goodbye. Our schools are dying, our students wont' stay in school. We're supporting millions of illegals. Our government is owned by the corporations and Wall Street. Drug cartels own our cities on the borders.
We are quickly becoming a 3rd world country
no brainer.needs to be done.laws need to be enforced".Profiling"small sacrafice.
There should be a formal but easy way for citizen of Arizona to report illegal immigrant suspects to the state police. Random check will neither be effective or cost-effective.
Profiling did not kill AZ's rancher. What people in don't understand is the huge amount of crimes, killings, drugs, & kidnapings that are done by illegals. They even get shot below border, cross over & get free safe care in U.S. hospitals. There are a large number of legal wonderful people that are getting a bad name because of lack of border inforcement, we would like to feel safe. Dee in AZ
I wish all states especially my state New Mexico would set up a bill like this. As Senater Pearce stated this is a crime. I'm tired of illegal immagrints coming to the United States where the women get food stamps, medicaid, and financial aid while the husband works illegally.
While alot of Americans have to watch there budgets. The illegal immigrant has money to load up there grocery carts on my dime. I have been behind women who can't speak English with there carts loaded pay with foodstamps and then get $200 cash back from the same card (which is to be used for hiuising) and buy beer. If your here illegally and your stopped you should be sent back. By the way, I am Hispanic.
So now Arizona has a law that will encourage police to conduct interregations of anyone without probable cause. If this isn't racial profiling will someone please tell me what is? Anyone that looks latino or is brown skinned can be stopped and questioned for no reason at all except their skin color. What happens when the "suspect" refuses to answer questions and asks for a lawyer? I can see the reverse sting cases and resulting court cases for false arrests. Sorry Arizona this law just isn't going to stand constitutional and supreme court muster.
As far as illegals all being criminals what about those who are here to just make a buck and who pay their taxes and social security? If you live in Mexico the only possible way to make any kind of decent money, no matter how hard you work, is to be a drug smuggler. There are virtually no honest opportunities available in that country. Shame on the Mexican government for not seeing that and doing something about it!!!
I live In Tucson AZ, something needs to be done. Our hospitals are going bankrupt, schools running out of money, police, fire need more. All to be put on the backs of homeowners, taxpayers. We need to enforce the laws of the United States of America. Enough is enough illegal immigrants are breaking the law. They are breaking Americans wallets. Enforce the law . This new law hopefully will make it easier for law enforcement to stop the flow of illega immigration. Illegal means illegal.
My concern here is why the focus is or sure does seem so, on Mexico or south or the border. There are thousands upon thousands of " Illegal Immigrants " in our country. In the state of New York we have our share of illegals from Germany, Russia, Poland, Asia, etc.. I am all for Illegal Immigrant reform but lets be honest, I do not see a police officer stopping a white male or female to ask them to see if they are illegal or not. I believe the biggest problem will be with Puerto Ricans. Born here or on the Island they are United Citizen by Law. We need to do this correct is all I am saying. Illegal Immigration should be for ALL who are illegally in this Great Country the United States of America... God Bless...
The United States is broke and we need to get tough on our boarders and all that are here illegally.
I am willing to be stopped and show that I am a resident legal in the United States. Why would anyone with nothing to hide mind showing legal identification? You say racial profiling; well if the boarder in question is Mexico then I would logically think that would be the main focus. If it is the Canadian boarder then the focus would be vary. More checks for persons illegally in the USA should be made in all areas. We are at War in many areas of the world and our economy is being affected in a negative manner trying to care for persons in the USA illegally. These negative factors are evident when you analyze the USA welfare system, the jails that house so many criminals that committed crimes while here illegally, and the medical system that is over whelmed with non paying illegal persons that have arrived in the USA.
Come on people get tough on all forms of crime including those here that did not go through the correct and legal process to be here. What is a little inconvenience when so much is at stake?
I am a long time Phoenix resident. The problem with illegal immigration in Phoenix has increased exponentially over the last decade. We are tired of being considered a safe haven for illegals. We are tired of supporting them financially as they are given unfettered access to the public school systems which includes the free breakfast and lunch programs. Our teachers already have too many kids per classroom and get paid too little. I am a medical professional and our healthcare system is flooded with illegals. They are elligible for the state medicaid programs and utilize a large portion of our resources. We have citizens being murdered along our border by these law breakers. This must stop now. We gladly support the efforts of Sheriff Arpaio and applaud the leadership of our state legislature. The federal government has made it abundantly clear they have no intention of securing our borders.
it's about time all states take the same stand against illegals
This law is anti American, it will only portrays the State in a bad light. America is a land of freedom and a gift to the World.
IMMIGRANTS VS. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.....Get a clue people...You only look like fools when you try to change language to suit your position.....Federal law says there illegal, state law says there illegal yet people want to keep saying "immigrant or migrant" as if it changes reality....If you didn't do it the right way you are ILLEGAL plain and simple.....
America is the only country that grants US citizenship to aliens. America should have the right to check these aliens for illegals. If they don't want to be checked then they should go back to where they came from. America is being invaded by aliens of all nationality.
Anyone in this country that has an issue with securing the border should have a background check done or they are idiots.
Come live here. Live with the crime from the illegals.
Until then shut up.
I support the law and think it should apply in all states.
While some people talk about the lower prices we enjoy because of the illegal immigrants who work here, I feel this is offset by the huge amounts ot tax dollars that go to medical services, education, law enforcement and most especially, ESL and other translation programs for people who are here illegally.
The brother-in-law of a friend of mine was a principal in a public school in a major city. He was not allowed to hire any teacher unless that teacher was bilingual in English and Spanish. It is outrageous to think that an American college student born here or who is here legally can't teach in that city unless they learn the language of a people who are here illegally. This also encourages other immigrant groups to not learn English either.
Many Hispanics speak Spanish at every opportunity, even if they speak fluent and unaccented English. We have become a bilingual country without the consent of the American people.
Another thing that really irks me – there are several supermarkets in my area that used to be run by white managers. They had a diverse workforce which included people of different ethnic groups and ages. When Hispanic managers took over, all the white employees disappeared even though they were older and had been there for years. Now only young Hispanics work in those stores, and they usually speak Spanish. (These stores are in white neighborhoods.) Government officials are only concerned about diversity in employment if management is white – discrimination by other groups is just fine. I hope the white employees have a really good class action lawsuit underway.
Not only is the legality of this bill questionable, but the moral implications are enormous.
The Senator is saying "lets crack down on illegal immigration" while he receives his big fat paycheck. The people he's calling outlaws have to fight day and night to stay alive, and immigration, although illegal, is the only way to achieve this. The alternative is poverty and drug wars back in Mexico (which are the US's problem due to the US demand of drugs). Targeting illegal immigrants like this is a virtual death sentence.
I find the bill offensive and bad for the health of people.If this bill is passed civilians may have the right to intervene .I am not aq Mexican I am Puerto Rican if someone other than a cop is goign to harress me and force me to show my identification dont call me an America call CNN and some reinforcement because I already can not make a livng wage in America we have grown men that can even make enought to live in their gettos .If I am forced to be treated like a convict why live .I live work hard and atleast live in a getto ,but when my right to live with dignity is taken away why behave .Death and life will not just be pointless it will be meaningless.
I personally dont want to be bothered and harressed due to my tan skin color send me back to Puerto Rico live me in the forest to live in peace with myself and my environment .Not only isthe bill extremrly racist it is against democracy .While immigration may be a problem lets look at the real reason for the the drugs wars .Poverty .Poverty is linked ot violence and the system of capiitialism is forcing millions into a life of crime and drugs .
I believe in justice and equality for all .
Dignity is worth living for
I am totally for this bill, and have wondered for the longest time why Uncle Sam provides so many benifits to illegals. Free health care, no tax obligations, and no real rammifications for not properly entering and working in our country. I'm tired of paying for these freeloaders to come here with their illicit drugs to steal and usurp our resources. I hope the other states fall in line. Protect America!!
I love the idea that this law is on the table. AND PLEASE TAKE GOD OUT OF IT. THERE BREAKING THE LAW.... it's crime. If they want to be here do it right. Get the right paper work.
AMERICA, WAKE UP!!!
Illegal immigrants are not America's problem, WALL STREET and FINANCIAL INSTITUTES are. They are the REAL CRIMINALS!
How come LAW MAKERS in Arizona are not going after the REAL CRIMINALS???
It is always easy to pick a fight against little people!
Shame on you, Arizona..
I do support them making it illegal to be an "illegal". I think the main problem here is that the decision of who looks like an immigrant is left up to the police. It's it too easy to abuse and can be used as a carpet reason to stop and question anyone who an officer decides "looks" like an illegal immigrant. I understand the frustration of Arizona residents to the problem and lack of action by the federal government, but this is giving basic civil rights for the sake of reducing illegal immigration.
we as american's have criticized hitler since the beginning. with the nuremberg laws, yet we are enforcing our own kind of nuremberg law. i am against illegal aliens yet i do not agree with this law. i feel we are being too harsh, and a bit hypocritical. illegal aliens should not be allowed to stay here but why have such harsh laws? not all illegal aliens are bad, this is how hitler had started in germany, the jewish stars, no jobs and imprisonment of the jews, this is very similar to what we are doing. do they not realize this will also be more costly, stopping anyone because of probable cause, asking for identification. not only does this take time but it also causes our already full prisons to be even more full. mere hypocrisy from my point of view.
there is not an illegal alien isabel garcia,amnesty intl and the aclu
wouldn't try to get citizenship........hooray for arizona statehouse. they
are doing something the federal government will not do because of
corruption and vote chasing.
WHERE ARE TEA THE PARTY PEOPLE???????????????
they yell for states rights why are they not supporting them...rick
sanchez has his friend in memphis the illegal immirgration train
runs across I-40 to memphis and across tenn at the end south to
atlanta and north I-81 to everywhere. they wonder about illegal
aliens on east coast??????????
ilegal aliens and radical moslems given the right of everyday people
when is this country going to wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!march in va ntl park with
a bunch of gun toting protesters glad there were no lone wolves!!!!!!!!!!
“Let them stay, but make them pay”
If someone arrived here illegally, words can’t change that they are residing here outside the law.
If someone breaks the law, they must be dealt with in an appropriate manner.
These 12 million illegal immigrants have taken advantage of what our country has to offer…..illegally.
Now, we should make them pay….legally. In the following order, we do the following:
• We identify the illegals.
• We visit them where they live and or work
• We make out a monthly or biweekly payment plan for each one to cover for unpaid Social Security Taxes, Income taxes, Medicare & Medicaid Taxes, and for fines that they need to pay for breaking our immigration law in the first place.
Do I agree with the Arizona Bill? I agree with its intent, but the concept of sending them home is a costly logistical enterprise and we won’t get re-paid for the services that they and their children have received while living here.
“Let them stay but make them pay”.
My family came here they learned the language , they fought in our wars and they became citizens as soon as possible. Why not question some people. If they ask me I will pull out my identification and proudly prove I am an American , I pay taxes and I dislike Washington as much as the next person. These liberals need to get over it. Our nation is broke we cannot continue to cater to illegals. They have no rights. They are not citizens. Look at California they have gone broke for supporting Mexico.
I feel sorry for this conservatives sons of redneck bush and his redneck administration they feel threaten by the Latin community and black community. Just for the simple fact that we are way better people than they are. They are full of envy, jealousy and hatred that is why God is taking this nation from their hands and given it to us. Just the way it happened to the Jews for their disobedience and bad intensions of their hearts. We should keep our heads up doing good and depart from evil which is understanding thanking our God each and every day for our lives. And let them destoy each other as it will happen?
Who are the real ilegals? Arizona was part of Mexico before the USA Stole it
We would not be having this discussion if the US government enforced borders. Why do you CNN ignore the cost of illegal immigration to the American tax payers in providing education, medical, welfare and translation services to the illegal immigrants, their children and their children born in the US?
I live in Arizona. I have been here for two years. I live in Queen Creek. Down the street from my apartment I see "undocumented workers" stand around all day outside of the CircleK and liquor store waiting for work. Nothing happens to them. Deputies drive by all day. Business owners don't call the cops for loitering. Nothing happens. Do you really think this new law that will allow cops to check ID (which they should already be doing anyway) and for business owners to be arrested for harboring illegal immigrant (which they should be anyway), is gonna change?? Does anyone out there SERIOUSLY believe that this bill whether it gets approved is gonna change illegal immigration? WAKE UP IT'S NOT!!!
Whoever says this is a "good bill" is honestly IGNORANT! How can you possibly advocate for a bill that will legalize racial profiling. Oh yea, give Hispanics an ethnic identity card, single them out, similar to what Hitler did and similar to Rwanda. It is the same thing if you are passing a law that will allow law enforcement officials stop people who “LOOK UNDOCUMENTED” and who are we kidding? When you talk about “undocumented” people automatically assume “Latino” or “Mexican.” To the idiots who are saying that Mexican’s “harbor terrorist” for your information, terrorists used the border along CANADA! Why don’t we build a fence there? The fence is clearly not to protect ourselves from terrorism. What this law basically says is that if you are NOT white then you might be undocumented. Well what about all the Mexicans that look white and have blue eyes with blonde hair, but are undocumented? This bill is ridiculous! It shows a neo-Nazi mentality.
If you are not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't have a problem! Why is it about color to some of you. It is always something that you can call out for no reason at all. There are white immigrants, you do know this, right? I don't care if they are white, from Germany, black, from Africa or brown from Mexico. If you are here illegally, you need to leave. We do allow people into this country, you just have to do the paperwork to get here.
It's about time government took a stand against illegal imigrants. It's time we took care of our own legal citizens, and if anyone wants to become a citizen go about it the right way. It is time for all Americans unite together and protect our borders. Help to put a stop to drop houses, drugs, and other criminal and terrorist activity that comes from illegal imigration.
Lets say you need police assistance and they are all busy trying to profile illegal immigrants...Just think about it for one minute... that would mean they will take MORE time to answer to REAL ISSUES! More police would be needed therefore MORE TAX MONEY!!! It is amazing how people dont think about whats going to be the cost for this... Not to mention that if you look Mexican/Hispanic and some jerk cop pulls you over, its going to take time of your day to prove you in fact are legally here!
Yes Arizona has gone to far with this ridiculous immigration law. Let me ask something are they going to suspect white people of being illegal aliens from Europe no are they going to suspect black people of being illegal aliens from Africa no are they only going to suspect brown Hispanics of being illegal aliens of course therefore its discriminating.
First off this bill is irrational. Cops have a right to pull over anybody who looks Mexican and they can ask for documentation to prove you were born in the U.S. In reality this is going to anger a lot of people. Think about it don't you hate it when your accused of something you didn't do? So a whole race is being discriminated against because of this bill. And if the Governor approves this just watch and see how many lawsuits the state gets, because you can count on me I will sue the state if I am being discriminated against as well as many other people. Yes I can prove I am from here. But for the people who can't it's a different story. You think they like living in fear on a day to day basis just by living here? Yeah yeah yeah they shouldn't be here anyways. But if you look at it from there point of view: live in Mexico and fear the Mexican Drug Cartel, broken down system in their government, and not being ever to make a honest living. If you live in America fear of the Migra ,being sent back to Mexico if you already have a family here, and being discriminated against. I can honestly say they are very strong people and are willing to endure the what ever pain for a better life.
Couldn't they just try to become legal before they come?
In many cases the illegal alien is brought here by their parents choice when they were young, so really theres nothing they can do about it but wait years and years while they file petitions and spend lots of money just to get a card with their name on it.
We have 12 million illegal aliens supposedly, we can't get rid of them, and we really shouldn't. People think if we send them back to Mexico it will fix everything, because it WILL NOT. America should just focus on immigration reform, we all came from an immigrant, except Native Americans and residents of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas who were there before America bought out these states from MEXICO.
My (conservative Republican) husband and I (liberal Democrat) are both praying that Jan Brewer has the guts to veto this bill. Being here illegally is a Federal issue and needs to be dealt with by immigration reform, not by our police! Yesterday I too part in an informal political discussion at a local book store with 13 folks – all over age 55- and of various political leanings, and 8 of us were against the bill, 3 for it, and 2 unsure but leaning against it. We all know people who are terrified that this bill will pass, and many of them are US citizens or have green cards! I am embarrassed to live in Arizona!
We MUST PASS THIS BILL!!!!. The People of the USA and Arizona deserve to have the US immigrations laws enforces]d. ***The racisl profiling BS is just an excuse to break the law by liberals nuttjobs - nothing here, folks,.
Just enforce the laws on the books. *** If you are here illegally , there ARE are consequences. Time to GO HOME Illegal aliens! Americans – Legals Americans) come first. LEGAL Americans do not welcome you!
GET THIS - Over $32 BILLION DOLLARS OF "OUR" TAX DOLLARS GOES TO ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THE US? Who set this scam up, folks? Think about this! ***Bull.crap Clinton (NAFTA) anyone?
I am a long time resident of Arizona presently living in Phoenix, and i think that this bill should be passed. The Hispanic community is threatened by this bill, but this bill is not specific to just their nationality, it is targeted for ALL illegal immigrants. If you live in the Phoenix proper you can see and live around the crimes and know the victims of crimes being committed by illegals, Hispanic or other wise. And as far as being asked to provide proof that you are in this country legally is no different than when a police officer asked to see your drivers license to prove you have a legal right to drive. I have experienced first hand many many times people will be here, say that they are a legal resident of Arizona, and can not speak one sentence of English, as they continue through the assistance of an interpreter receiving welfare, free medical and cash assistance from the state. Could that not be a red flag to someone, to really question their legal status, yet it happens every day here. The only ones of the Hispanic community that should be in fear are the ones that are here illegally.
They claim it is racial profiling, come on, (basic scenario) if you are hunting for bear, would you go to the city to hunt? The Hispanics that I have had conversations with support getting rid of the illegals that are here. The Hispanic community should be in support of this bill as it also protects them as legal, law abiding citizens from the crimes and the increase in fear to their community causes by the illegals.
FACT ::::30+ million Illegal aliens broke into my house (Country) and now they should pay the consequences. Americans have spoken! Pack your bags and come back through legal channels - you are not welcome. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! ***We should not even be having this conversation, folks. There are now over 30 Million illegals (not 12 million-that figure is a lie-go to: NuumbersUSA.com to see the real facts the media won't report). These leeches are stealing from OUR resources each and every day. ***Let's LOOK a this taxpayers – and people without jobs! We have been duped by our government! UGH!
If we would only get rid of the 2 borders in North America and allow free movement anywhere in North America the wealth of Canada and the United States would trickle down into the poverty ridden areas of Mexico and would transform the North American continent to a prosperous, fair place to live.
You can't stop people from pursuing a good life. As long as there are borders it stifles all of the countries affected. It would be a shining example of actually having one world.
IT IS ABOUT TIME, go Arizona . This country has a hard enough time with all the corruption and mishandling of money that we cannot continue to pay for all the illegals immigrants. These laws need to pass in all States, if not as soon as the children born here from illegal immigrants get old enough to vote we will not have any say. This country and those in power to manage it rarely do anything right. Illegal immigration is just another example of how this Government both Federal and State never get it right. It is about time that this type of law is passed.
How about ask victims of the Chandler rapist what they think of the bill? Ask widows left behind any time an officer has been killed by an illegal alien – not just in AZ, but in other states. For both Chandler rapist and the MURDERER of Phoenix Police Officer, Nick Erfle, both illegals had been deported already, but still came back into the U.S.
For all of you WHINING about "driving while brown" or "racism" OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN' EYES!!!!!! If you are speeding, and get pulled over, show your driver's license. It's not the friggin' hard!!! If you are standing outside Home Depot waiting for work and a cop comes up . . .have your AZ State ID (if you don't drive), have your green card, have your student visa. Again....NOT THAT HARD !!!!!!!!
Stop HIDING behind the word RACISM.
And hey, how about the prayer rugs and notebooks with Arabic writing in them found at border crossings? (ask the FBI about this stuff....if you don't get a straight answer, keep pushing and asking follow up questions). I don't care what country you are from, if you come here, do it LEGALLY, PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!! I say if you are ok with people coming in ILLEGALLY, then you are ok with possible TERRORISTS coming in. THANKS A LOT !!!!! If you are ok with ILLEGALS, then you are also ok with drop houses, human smuggling, drug smuggling, and all the TRASH that is left at the border and in the desert. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! If you are ok with ILLEGALS, then you are ok with jobs being taken from Americans. Recent examples: Shuttle van drivers, Ariba Mexican food restaurants, construction workers, landscapers, etc.
If you are ok with illegals being here....how about YOU cover their health care costs and the cost to jail them, deport them, court costs, etc.? How about YOU compensate the motorists that have to come up with deductible money when they hit your car and run?
I think you can get my point.
The law is simply going to take what is already a Federal crime and make it a State crime. The law itself has been in existence for quite some time. Anyone expressing outrage at this point in time is not protesting the actual law but the fact that it might start to be enforced. Why would anyone who is genuinely contributing to our society have an issue with the enforcement of an old law that is clearly common sense?
I guess I should quit tanning and stay white in order to avoid racial profiling if I have to go to Arizona for business ( just being ironic ). In case, they do not like out of state people and put them into jail by false accusation. Even the bill gives out the right of suing for misconducts, but no one can guarantee that misconducts will not happen. A trip of no return. We might see those incidents of racial discrimination between police and common people, like what it happened in Los Angeles that police beating up color people.
*So many times I wonder what those politicians were like when they were younger in college or if they had ever gone to college. They sounded like high school students talking right out of their ass.
WOW, I just see one thing here HATE, hate and more hate...It's a shame America.
Since the founding of this Nation Minorities always been targets of Racism. Native Americans,African Americans and now Hispanics/Latinos are targets, Of this UnMoral Thikning.This Immigration Bill It's Meant to target One specific Race. Look What Country is next to Arizona, even Citizines are going to be harased just cause their appearance. This Bill Is Unconstitutional and represent Discrimination,Harassment and Violation Of Human Rights. I Believe we should do something about the Drug cartel and the Border problem,but not target one specific Race,it's UnMoral.
I think this is a good thing. There is obviously a severe problem on the border states. Getting control of illegal's crossing and being in our country is a must. The cost to our economy is huge. I for one always carry identification with me. If you have your ID with you and a cop asks to see it show it. Illegal's will not have valid ID. End of problem. Yes it's a shame that we have come to this but something has to be done and this is a good step in the right direction!
Good job Arizona, about time a state took a tough stance on this issue. Now if only this bill would pass here in California.
As for people comparing this bill to Nazi Germany and racial profiling...give me a break. The cops are not going to be driving around strictly pulling people over based on their appearance, this bill gives them the right to check legal status if they break a law wether it's a felony or minor traffic infraction. They need to have probable cause. They're already breaking the law by entering the country illegally...that's all the reason I need.
My parents came here legally from Mexico and are denied social services and health care, yet illegals get free money for having tons of kids and abusing social services....that's a slap to the face to my parents who immigrated in a legit manner. Lets be real people, they mess up neighborhoods, have multiple families in one house or apartment, create gang problems...I know this because I'm MEXICAN.
With all the cartel problems going on in northern Mexico, the violence could spill over to US territory. This is no time for "political correctness" because this is not a human rights issue, we are giving sanctuary to law breakers plain and simple and this can't go on anymore. If your a citizen or national....you have nothing to worry about so stop whining.
Does the Bill go a little overboard?Sure.
Should the state technically leave it to the Federal Government? Sure.
But isn't it about time SOMETHING was done? Hell yes!
ILLEGAL Immigration is a huge problem, and something needs to be done.
LEGAL Immigration is perfectly fine....but not coming here illegally.
The south is rising again, and we all know who there after.
Arizona I applaud you! I have read about the problems with crime, rapes, drugs, and robberies in Arizona. Not all illegals but the majority are. I live in a SW Kansas town that has a packing plant. We have more and more crime, DUI, driving w/o a license, drug possession, robberies, rape, you name it. These are posted everyday in our local newspaper. They are destroying our country along with Mr. Obama & the other idiots in Washington. Maybe next we can succeed from this NO LONGER great anymore UNION! AND NO I am not a racist, Tea Party Member, Democrat or Replublican, just an American Citizen who is thinking of moving to Arizona. No one knows what it is like until you are living it...don't be so quick to judge.
Thanks for taking a stand ARIZONA!!!!
what's wrong with questioning people as to whether they are illegal or not? it's not racial profiling. it's not a civil rights violation. the fact of the matter is mexican people are crossing the border illegally into the arizona. it's not like we have whites, asians, or blacks coming over the border. of course the are going to be looking for mexicans. would it make them happier if they just said they were going to canvas the entire state and check everybody for their citizenship status?
i hate how this is turning into a race issue. i also have issue with congressmen from illinois getting involved with the issues of another state. i live in illinois, and i promise you we have issues as well. why does he claim to know what it's like down there when he lives half a continent away. he should trying to fix problems in his own state before he meddles in others.
What is so hard about carrying proof that you are legally in the US? You need a license to drive and a Visa to travel and I see no difference. I understand that it would be a pain to be stopped by the police but if you have your paperwork in order everything should be okay.
I think that Arizona is taking this way too far. I am an American Citizen and my husband is a permanent resident. I have much daker skin than he does and one of our children, who is also an American citizen, has even darker skin. I think its absurd that there is a possibility/probability that just because we are walking down the street with a brown skinned boy, we should be stopped and questioned.
Boo hoo for the illegals! You want a path to citizenship? Go back to Mexico and apply at the Consulate in Juarez! Illegal aliens are just that... illegal. It is a CRIME to sneak into the country. Period
70% of az wants this bill to be signed and enforced or maybe the gov't will again decide to ignor the people. Before we decide this is a bad thing perhaps we or you should live there along the border with the gangs, guns, murder, drugs, and kidnappings. NO well
This bill goes too far! Not only does it encourage racial profiling, it also criminalizes transporting illegal immigrants. What about scenarios when children here illegally need to be transported by Child Protective Services? It becomes illegal to do so! (That is just one example of the nonsense of this bill.) This bill is too broad and I am confident that even it the governor signs it, it will be struck down as unconstitutional in the not-too-distant future.
– A concerned Phoenix resident
I think that the opposers themselves are inserting racial profiling in the bill. The bill says nothing about "brown" people or "Hispanic" people. It just says that the bill is for people who have no papers. This is not about race. The unwarranted search mandate is also common in American society if there is reasonable suspicion, like if an officer can smell drugs coming from a vehicle or notices some weapons, cages, sharp objects, etc. And it's illegal for people to walk into any OTHER [industrialized] country without papers/a passport. Plus, there has already been enough violence on the borders, and the Mexican government sure isn't doing anything to stop the cartels fueling it. This points to that "the few ruins things for the many" clause.
Plus, I don't see every illegal person as a bad person, or a person that brings harm. But what needs to be done needs to be done; that's the tragedy behind it. If both sides are to come to a census, shouldn't Arizona also make getting papers easier for the immigrants who have good intentions coming into the country?
This bill is frankly appalling!
So because someone isn't blond haired and blue eyed , they are illegal immigrants?
Fyi being hispanic/latino isn't synonymous to illegal immigrant, and this is exactly what this bill is promoting. So much for the constitution.
I firmly believe it should not be approved, it would create a more racist and hateful society.
I'm so glad this is going on, please pass the bill, report illegal immigrants to the police ladies & gentleman, remaining silent is one of the main issues we face today, I am Mexican and unlike many others I had to go through hell to get my Legal Residence and I hate it when this pricks just manage to jump the fence and use identity theft in order to apply for a job.. Want to be in the US and have rights? well then do things right, apply for your residence and go to Juarez, speak to a consul and then come to the U.S, trust me you will be living with peace of mind,no problems, good benefits and a great lifestyle ->when you're legal.
YEAH BILLY!!!!!!! I gotta with Senator Bill here, illegal aliens are a HUGE problem in this country. Im not saying that all Mexicans are bad and illegal, the ones who get here legally and get their green card SHOULD be allowed in, but if you are just going to ILLEGALLY jump the boarder and ILLEGALLY live here, then GET OUT!!! There is a reason it is illegal, population control is another issue because of this illegal immigration. No offense to the Mexican race, but wear a condom and limit yourself please. The ones who come here ILLEGALLY should not be able to abuse the US Government and get free money out of them. That money should be used to help the people who are here LEGALLY. America is suffering enough as it is, we dont need anymore issues brought on by something that can be somewhat dealt with.
I am a 61 year old retired Hispanic male Snowbird that lives in Colorado and Arizona. No matter what race you are you should be in the United States legally. I would not mind being stopped to
Verify that I am a U.S. citizen as long as the police are not abusive.
it is pretty "nazi" an other way to control people in the USA, spying on the citizens and the illigal immigrants, but the sad thing is all United Statetians are illigal immigrants, only the Natives are the real citizens ( and i'm not a native by the way) the true country of freedom is Canada, where you don't get 5 years for a weed joint.... Patriot Act is like the Nazi Enabling Act. you guys lost all your rights yours founding fathers fought for. good job to have put the grand-son of a Nazi as a president during 2000-2008
So correct me if I’m wrong but if I understand it right the bill says a police officer has to make sure that the person they have stopped for whatever reason is here legally. Right? I am an immigrant and I see nothing wrong with that. USCIS tells us “aliens” that we have to have our green cards on us at all times or we could get fined $500. So if I would get pulled over/stopped, I wouldn’t have any problem at all. Just take the card out, just like your driving license, and show the officer.
I think it is time we stop avoiding the truth and start telling the truth and stop trying to be politically correct on issues that endanger our state and our country. Yes this country was built on immigrants but they were legal immigrants not illegal immigrants like what's coming over to this country today. The legal immigrants from years past wanted to be American were proud to say they were Americans and stood up for the people of America not the illegal immigrants of today who bad mouth this country march against this country and most of all hate the American people who are not of Hispanic heritage in this country. I have never seen a culture that hates the non Hispanic American person and what America stands for more then the Hispanic culture of today but no one is supposed to say this but it time we did. No one is being forced to stay in this country so if it’s so bad here go back no one is stopping you. Also the Hispanic communities of today should be ashamed of them selves for letting their own culture destroy this great country you now call home.
Take one look at what the Hispanic people done to LA and then let me know if you want illegal Mexicans in your state. And for those who think this is racial profiling I say facts don’t lie and it’s a fact that most crime in AZ is committed by legal and illegal Mexicans and most crimes against white Americans in AZ and LA is committed by Hispanics and that’s a fact that no ones wants to let out to the public.
I think it is racist to apply this kind of bill. To start how do you make a difference between and illegal immigrant and someone who is an american citizen but from another racial background. This means police ( mainly racists ones) will stop any non white person and treat them as a potential illegal alien. This makes no sense to me. The person who had the bright idea for this bill must have been very racist but does not shows it. And for the people who say illegal take our jobs, well would you guys be janitors, gardeners, construction worker all while getting paid much less. The answer is NO. If the US takes away all those illegal immigrants then who is going to lawn your garden or clean your streets. Think about it.
I'm a bit confused as to why so many of you *Americans* find Arizona's bill 1070 difficult to swallow. I don't hear anyone complaining about things like:
*Having to always have your drivers liscense with you when you're operating a vehicle.
*Having to show a passport or birth certificate to enter back in to your own country.
If you have nothing to hide, why in the world would this offend you? What do you fear?
I'll tell you what I fear.
I fear funding in a state where education spending is LAST in the country because we have to deal with so many other issues including fighting illegal immigration, border mafia, and drug trafficking. Then I think about the medical help, education and other state agency aid that is given to those who are not legal (and ultimately at the taxpayers expense, and those that pay for things like auto insurance and health insurance). When applying for these free services, the illegal aliens do not say, 'yes, I am illegal'. They lie. We essentially reward people for being in our country illegally.
What is wrong with expecting them to follow the law? Why do you fear telling them to follow the laws that govern us that we ourselves follow? We do not get to 'pick and choose' what laws we want to follow... so why stand up for their so-called right to do so?
I welcome the legal immigration of all peoples to our great country, but there is a process and it's there for a reason. If you choose not to follow the laws, then you are a criminal. It's that simple. There is no black and white, or brown or yellow here.
It's about time!!!!!!! Being from Phoenix, i agree 100% with this bill. There is nothing wrong with coming to this country to try to better your life and your families life. BUT, when you come here and rape, kill, steal, and kidnap..... you gotta go! Bye Bye!!!!!!! God Bless America
I think that this law is atrocious. It makes me embarrassed to be an American. And the possibility that other states could do the same is frightening.
I am so embarrassed for Arizona!! I think they are taking a step backward. I hope all Latinos look at this Bill for what is racial profiling! As for me and my family there will be no vacations in Arizona. I will not put my family at risk (especially my dark kids) of being questioned or detained due to our ethnicity.
This has to do with racial profiling. Whats next, making a different line at the airport for Arabs/Muslims/Indians? This is outrageous and it's crazy to think that not only is this being considered but that it actually might pass. I never thought I'd be ashamed to be a citizen of the U.S. but as time goes on I'm becoming less proud. I'm a 10th grader at ChandlerHighSchool and I refuse to say the pledge. Because this is an abomination. Absurd, and I hope you know it all politicians know what you're doing. You're sending Arizona right down the toilet, thanks.
why is it so hard to comprehend the law? Illegal immigration presents burdens upon our social and political culture. It is not about racial profiling. It is about a country taking control of its borders. Go back to your own country and fight to make things right there instead of fighting the USA on its laws and culture. Illegal immigrants destroy neighborhoods and drain resources paid for by legal tax paying citizens. They wave their flags around at rally's because they are so proud of their heritage and culture. Why don't they portray that same energy within their own country.
I am an immigrant but I came here legally, following the process. The Arizona Immigration Bill is a remarkable bill to get rid of illegal immigrants. I do hope other states would follow this bill. If you want to go to USA, you should do it in the legal way.
Its nearly impossible for him to pass the Bill because there are millions of immigrants in this country and it's illegal to randomly question someone and handcuff them out of no where. The state of Arizona is the one and only state that is supporting this law probably and Pearce is really stupid for saying that basically ONLY immigrants murder and rape people. He is basically saying that if one immigrant do these illegal acts then all of them do. Nearly everyone in the United States are immigrants and have immigrant backgrounds so that makes them immigrants. If this bill is going to get passed, if America going to handcuff nearly everyone in the US? That is humanly impossible and the most retarded thing to do. This is suppose to be America. I dont know why Pearce is hating on immigrants. There should be a reason and if the reason was that he had a bad past or background with immigrants, then that reason is appauling. This bill should never get passed and should get ripped up. If Jan Brewer signs this Bill, then i dont know what is going to happen to America. Pearce is asking for an all out American riot in all 52 states. This state has the pledge "For Liberty and Justice For ALL." There is a reason why we have that pledge. If Pearce is asking for a fight with millions of Americans, then so be it.
This law is racial profiling!! It may not state that exact verbage but every law enforcer will use it in there power to profile. Its already happened to a young man here in AZ on Wednesday April 21st (check the local AZ news) and the bill hasn't been passed into law. All this is going to create is more debt for AZ due to all the lawsuits. Yes, they can question anyone on their status of citizenship, however ask yourself this, who will it target? You guessed it LATINOS!! How do I know this its happened to us, MEXICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS! Before this law came to light my husband had been pulled over twice, for no reason given by the officers. When the officers walked up to the vehicle he wasn't asked for his license, proof of insurance, proof of registration. No he was asked, in the officers broken Spanish, for his green card. To which my husband replied, in perfect english, "don't you mean license, proof of insurance, registration?' We as a country have come to far for change to go back. It shouldn't be a crime to be HISPANIC, it should be a crime to profile. Its funny to hear all these people say yes send them back yet many, many of these "illegals" have children born and raised here in the US and have proudly served in the military but no one seems to mind.
I've lived in AZ for 21 years and I think that this is one of the best initiatives for our local community since the government is not taking the issue with illegal immigrants seriously. Arizona is already filling jobs for legal residents after getting rid of several illegals who stole identities. Our crime rate and drug trafficking is out of control and needs to be taken care of. If we visit Mexico we have to abide by their laws. I don not think anything is wrong with enforcing our laws. There is a protocol to becoming a legal citizen of our country. If you can't follow that protocol then you have no right to live here.
You can make comments about how illegal immigrants are stealing jobs, but they also help create them. As a teacher, many of my students are illegal or children of illegal immigrants. Without this large percentage of our community a large number of schools would be forced to close and hundreds of educators will lose their jobs.
The passing of this law will impact the community in many ways. When the Mexican community in San Diego went on strike several years ago, the impact was tremendous. Businesses were forced to close until the strike was over, schools lost tons of money due to low attendance, etc. It made San Diego realize the importance of the Mexican community. While you could argue that many illegal immigrants are draining the state of Arizona of some of its resources, it could also be said that the state of Arizona is dependent on illegal immigrants.
Not to mention that this law poses several moral issues for me. It does seem to justify the questioning of a person based on race. As a white person living in a predominantly Mexican community, the reality is, I will probably never be questioned. Yet my friends, neighbors, students, etc. who are Mexican, are more likely to be stopped. Is it really fair for police to question a person based upon their looks or race? In class today, my students were drawing parallels between what the Mexican community is going through currently to African Americans' struggle during the Civil Rights Movement. Their insights and comparisons to the struggle were startling and touching. One even made a comment on how they need a "Mexican Martin Luther King Jr." to help them.
What a breath of fresh air Gov. Brewer is compared to Napolitano.
It takes courage to say no and speak the truth. A none passage of this bill is an insult to all those Hispanics who have paid the price and earned the right legally to enjoy the freedoms that are not really free.
Thumbs up for Gov. Brewer
This is a bit too extreme. Arizona will be empty in no time, and will in turn collapse the state's economy.
Even if the bill passes, I'm sure it will be over turned soon... Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment, anyone?
ok...another bill???? why does everyone want mexicans out of here. I mean white people go to acapulco and everything and mexicans dont say anything. Remember that az was mexico before everything. and people come here cause its the land of the free. and everyone has an opportunity. I dont know why some have to be so racist and everything. We are all suppose to live in peace and harmony we all are 1 nation. thats all i want to say for now
As a Latino American today is a very sad day. I am desolated and shamed of this state in the United States. Today is a sad day for all those who have fought so hard for freedom, all latino groups should give the feedback to those Republicans Tea Party crazy freak people in the next election. Republicans are the most liesr and hypocrites in the face of earth , this is a big government intrusion in people life's is not what they probably would say about this. But now they won't say anything about...
It's like going back to Alabama in the 60s or in the 40s when our goverment put Japanese Americans in detentions camps... Simply crazy that our nation will go back to racial profiling, pretty soon we will have radical militias hunting people. Our goverment need to address the Imigration issue now, give a chance to the people that are already here to be legal and pay taxes, and then set tougher Imigration Laws and Regulations. Enforce our borders and like we are doing with Colombia, help the Mexican goverment fight the cartels. Lets remember that it is a Supply & Demand issue, it works both ways so we can"t blame only on side...
Illegal is illegal. Call it racial profiling if you like. This is our country. We need to take it back. I understand why a person would come to the BEST country in the world but, they need to come here legally.
If you are here legally why would you have a problem with this law. It's only the illegal folks that are angry about this one. The problem with this country is that people are getting rewarded for doing wrong and the people are getting penalized for doing right. Sounds like we need some change, but it's not going to come from this administration. Happy Friday
Whatever happened to "don't judge a book by its cover?" As if people of color don't get harassed enough, they have thought of a new way to harass legally. I understand that something has to be done, what I don't understand is why they believe this is the only option they think we have. He says that about 50% of the crimes are done because of illegal aliens, when reality is that the people that do the major crimes come in through the airports, and have a lot of money to do what they do. Now should we also go after people who have over certain amount in their accounts for questioning? I honestly find this ridiculous.
Its about time someone in America crack down on illegal immigrants. If this were any other country illegal immigrants would have no way of surviving in the country. This is a good law and hopefully other states will follow.
Finally, a state is doing something about this HUGE problem, that the Federal govt won't do anything about. Its not that you're brown and you're being profiled, its the fact that millions of ILLEGAL MEXICANS are crossing the border and it is a problem. And these are the people that are criminals-both being here illegally and commiting crimes. There is a legal process that everyone else has to go through to get here, yet they cross the border illegally and think its okay? REALLY?? Oh, and not to mention they don't speak the language! They are ruining American society and its about time we crack down on it. THANK YOU ARIZONA!!!!!!!! I hope other states follow your lead!
WOW 50% of homicides/rapes are by illegals. Not sure what the problem is at all? The law appears on target.
Fine them document them then send any illegal back where they came from. Why does this lady want illegals to come in at will? It is not profiling or racial, it is accounting for people who have broken the law.
Additionally, Letting illegals in hurts the ones who are here legally and totally diminishes their effort to do the right thing.
Our country is a mess when Obama does not support the efforts of a state trying to control crime.
I can see this going one of two ways... either the Cops do this professionally with the person's dignity intact, or AZ turns into an American version of Nazi Germany "Show me your papers!". I'm leaning towards the latter.
I've lived in AZ for a little bit, and just walking down the streets in Tempe, Chandler, and Scottsdale (were I lived) I've been approached by cops... in less than a professional manner... I'm sure there most have been something suspicious about me walking down the street with a trumpet... silly illegals coming to America to start a band.
This is a bad idea and I feel bad for anyone of color or just anyone a little different than white. Way to go AZ at making life harder for your people.
Finally a state that has the guts to do what should be done!!!!
I live in Southern Arizona and in the absence of Federal legislation and enforcement of current immigration laws, I support the proposed legislation. I say this although I fully recognize the inherrent problems and risks associated with the law. I live in a retirement community that has been surrounded by drug running, transportation of illegals, and the crime that accompanies these activities. I could be stopped but I believe the benefit may outweigh the negatives. This will send a message that we are serious about enforcing our immigration laws – and this has not been done in the past. I believe in immigration, but it must be handled legally or you create the lawless environment that we live in today in Southern Arizona complete with murder and horrendous traffic accidents that kill innocent people (both local and alien).
Nice story about the guy who rides across country to get involved in demonstrating against something that's none of his business. How much does he or your guest Hispanic PC lawyer pay in taxes in Arizona to pay for the crime and social service burdens brought on by these illegals? Now do a story on those who have been robbed, raped, murdered and caught up in the crime brount on by the criminal element in thse "immigrants". Why is it that people assume that folks here illegally have every right to be here and live off the system paid for by American taxpayers? I, and millions of others in the too long silent "silent majority" , are fed up with this PC crap. There is a boiling undercurrent developing in this country that the media is ignoring and it is about a lot more then boiling "TEA".
Thank God someone is finally trying to do something about this. Unless you live in a truly affected area, you have absolutely no idea what the illegal population is doing to our communities. I have ZERO problem with immigrants that come here legally. They work, pay taxes, and definitely deserve to be here and have the rights that we have. Illegal families are draining our communities of their resources. Their kids attend our schools for free. They take advantage of health care by showing up in our emergency rooms. Who do you think pays for all of this? You do. It really bothers me that a new law needed to be passed in the first place. The fact that they are considered "illegal" implies that they've already broken a law, which is why I do not support these immigrants in the first place.
As a teacher, my classrooms are filled with illegal students. Most of them do not speak English very well. They are sent to ESL classes.
This is a drain to the school system as these classes cost more to run. They receive very little support from family to aid in their learning which causes them to fall behind the other students. So, I either have to reteach the entire class or leave them behind completely. It's a lose-lose situation. Contrast to those that are here legally: the parents are more involved, the students preform better (they aren't afraid of their situation), and they progress with the rest of the class. Yes, they also attend the ESL classes, but their parents are paying into the system.
And as far as the crime goes, I'll just let the statistics speak for themselves. "Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001." This is from an article from 2006.
In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003. It found the following:
* The 55,322 illegal aliens studied represented a total of 459,614 arrests – some eight arrests per illegal alien;
* Their arrests represented a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses – some 13 offenses per illegal alien;
* 36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.
For those of you who cant see past imminent 'racial profiling' should the bill pass, consider this, the Georgia priest who refused to marry an interracial couple was appalled that he was considered a racist. Racist nature is seen by action, not by denial.
I support those in the Arizona senate who passed this bill and if I lived in Arizona; I would vote for them in the next election. This bill is right and long overdue. We have to take control of our borders and illegal immigration. Other countrys require the same basics as set forth in this bill..I rue ther day I voted for President Obama.
My family lives in Tucson, AZ. If you had any idea of the daily economic drain from illegals from any country in a border state you would be appalled. I am an RN at a Tucson hospital. How many of you know that patients from Mexico are routinely "dumped" at the border to be picked up by US EMS workers and are treated at our hospitals. We have had patients who have had surgery at Mexican hospitals left with open surgical incisions at the border to be picked up by us. Guess what, after we identify them through the Mexican consulate, their family members get papers to come and stay in the US while they are being treated at the hospital. I'm not talking about minor injuries. I'm talking about car accidents with multiple fractures, head trauma, shootings, stabbings, assaults. These patients are in our ICU's for weeks at a time. Then we have to pay the cost of trying to get them transported back to Mexico when they can finally leave the hospital......
Does this law apply to any illegal immigrant? I know Arizona is most concerned about Latinas, seemingly, but would the law cover anyone who might be illegal? Isn't there some concern that terrorists come in through Mexico to neighboring states? That would mean that Arizona lawmen might have to stop people of all ethnicities and ask for proof of citizenship. We should ALL be worried about this. I don't carry such documentation around with me-do you. Doesn't this sound a bit Communist to you?
Given the high unemployment, I really don't care too much about the plight of illegals. I do think that some illegals deserve sympathy though, like that 8 year old girl who was on Soledad O'Brien's report "Latino in America." Generally though, if illegals have no family here and they are here illegal, they should just be deported immediately. We need the jobs and it's not their country.
As for this bill, well it is legalized racial profiling. As a dark-skinned person, that would probably annoy me. I wonder if the law cannot be written a different way, like to deport people who are guilty of loitering. That would be much less racial and would still nail a lot of illegals.
I am so proud to live in Arizona , its about time someone is not afraid and start doing something about illegal immigration.
And i hope and prey that other states will follow , we need our country back , God bless America .
It is a sad day in the USA when the best leadership this country has to offer on one of the most difficult issues of the time is to side with and offer loyalty to illegal aliens as opposed to the loyal US citizens who have suffered at the hands of those same illegals and from the neglect of that same US leadership who best contribution seems to be denigration of local efforts, while avoiding it's own responsibilities to the citizens of Arizona.
There's nothing wrong with the proposed new Arizona law regarding illegal immigrants.
All these naysayers are conveniently ignoring two very key words: "reasonable suspicion".
If law enforcers abuse THAT, that's an entirely different matter.
This new Arizona immigration law is a tough one to judge. On the one hand I don't want Mexicans who come here for a better life to be harassed. Considering where they are coming from there is no way they'd ever get here legally. So, in that sense the new law is way too harsh. On the other hand, we don't want to miss catching terrorists who come here illegally, although so far I believe most of the terrorists in our country came here with legal VISAs. It's harsh to say we'll punish the majority to capture the few criminals. FYI – I don't believe coming here undocumented to start a better life is a crime. We are a nation of immigrants.
unless you are here in arizona, then you probably dont know what its like down here. we have illegals kill and sell drugs and get their wrist slapped and deported, just to hot foot it back over the border and do the same thing again. i dont think i should have to press 2 for english or try to order a hamburger in a drive-thru from someone that doesn't understand me. I can mow my own lawn and i am fully supportive of this new bill
I believe there are better ways to handle illegal immigration. Trying to control the situation through fear is NOT the way to go!
"Fear defeats more people than any other one thing in the world" (Ralph Waldo Emerson).
Instead of chastising those who are here to make a better life for themselves, we should try to work together in order to continue to build our country!
Let's hope she means what she says. Promises are easily broken!!
Arizona is now a poice state. You cannot take a proper legal uturn or you will be arrested for being "confused" . The tourists will STOP coming and the residents like me willl MOVE to a normal state. No one wants a police state. She has now run it down. The Federal Gov';t will step on her! She is a disgrace and the police behaviour is also a disgrace. They have no rules of law for the police to folllow. The do whatever however thery want to anyone they think. It is time it was stopped and Maricopa County is going broke! People are leaving!
please help me understand why a woman gets pregnant in mexico and comes here ilegally and has her baby it becimes an american citizen. then 5they sign them on medicaid and food stamps.
Governor is creating a police state. There goes the tourism and AZ. will fall to the dust! The Feds better stop her.
This law is long overdue, let's see if N.Y. , other states, and the federal government will follow. Illegal immigration is bankrupting my state of N.Y. (schools and hospitals in particular). My health insurance company just settled after months of negotiating with our local hospital allowing me access. Meanwhile, had I been an illegal immigrant (without insurance) I could have been treated without cost to myself but watched my premiums and co-pays rise! What a country!
p.s. If a person is not breaking a law being in the U.S. what is there to fear? I still do not understand the lawbreaker or sympathizer logic.
We need more brave politician , bravo, bravo for Gov. Brewer, Gov.Brewer for president
its about time they pass that bill. what part of illegal do you people not understand. there is a proper way and a illegal way to enter the US.look latino's all you have to do is carry your I,D whitch every american does anyway and if asked show them and be done with it.
Arizona is doing the right thing. This is not an issue of rights. It is a matter of national security and cracking down on the crime of crossing our border illegally.
This law in AZ means only one think!!! War against Latinos!!! Is time Latinos to stand up against white people?
There are twelve to fifteen million people in the country that are illegal. With all the legal opinions right or wrong at least the arizona governor had the guts to do or try something. Everyone else does nothing and then it will a fifteen to twenty million problem. That is what is wrong with the government. They do nothing.
About time someone has the guts to do the right thing. Illegals are taking many jobs that Americans would gladly do.
All the bull that Mexicans only take jobs that Americans don't want is bull
I agree that there are jobs that Americans won't do, but Mexicans are taking many jobs that used to pay good wages.
I'm a Hispanic guy and i support the ruling in Arizona. I hope other states follow. Illegals got to be stop from coming to the U.S. especially with !0% unemployment. Jose from Illinois.
WOOHOO THE BILL HAS BEEN SIGNED just now.
Now can we have this in 49 other states? I'm writing from CA (MEXifornia) where we have illegals everywhere and the damage is high, in terms of crime they often cause, and the billions they cost us
Gov. Jan Brewer for president
This bill is a disgrace and it is most certainly unconstitutional. Arizona will go bankrupt paying for all of the lawsuits that will be filed.
To Nicola we all have to carry an Arizona ID now. If you don't have one there is a reason for it. GO back home to Mexico.
I currently live in arizona. I am of hispanic background but I dont have a hispanic last name. How dare they judge hispanics by their looks. I wouldnt appreciate to keep getting pulled over by authorities because of how I look. I had recently got pulled over in california with my family on my way to disneyland just because we looked suspicious!! My 2yr old son freaked out when he saw the authorites come behind us like we were criminals. Now what are we teaching our children?
illegals have been the modern day slaves of america and it is about time to give them the credit they deserve. It use to be if you owned a slave you had to give them housing, clothing, medical care, food, a roof over thier head and overall take care of. The illegales do not make enough money to support themselves, they have to share in a living space they eat poorly and they pay cash for everything. They pay into social security but will never recieve any back and so they support our country with low priced farm goods that we would pay millions more for if farmers had to depend on us the white legal folks to harvest. A tomatoe would probably cost $2.50 each and we complain about educatiing a few children that are probably citizens anyway.
What arizonia has done has just created the monster that the whole world thinks us white over feed americans are all about. Put up walls, throw people in jail, treat them like slaves....let them dye trying to come across our borders because of the lack of water or caring humans on the other side. I think all people are created equal isn't that what america is all about? I will never travel or buy anything from Arizonia until they change this Nazi mean bigotted law.
Long overdue! the rest of the nation should follow-illegal is just that-all Hispanics should be checked-the country is full of illegals-send them all back!
Democratic led States should immediately move to boycott the Apartheid mentality now in force in Arizona and Texas. Boycott having conventions there, traveling there, boycott Arizona's goods and services.
Everyone with Brown Skin in Arizona is now a marked citizen by the Gestapo Apartheid law now in effect in Arizona.
Show us your papers old man or you'll be taken away from your wife and children to be privately questioned in the basement of the Sheriff's dept.
Why am I being harassed by the Arizona police thugs he asks? You just left a Mexican Restaurant, you must be Mexican!
I hope this Apartheid law in Arizona empowers President Obama to focus on a sweeping immigration legislation which swells the ranks of the Democratic party which permanently sweeps out the utterly racist Republican lawmakers in Arizona, Texas and the US Government.
John McCain and Sarah Palin are being uncharacteristically quiet on this illegal immigration issue, don't you think?
I am an immigrant myself, came over 20 years ago wtih family LEGALLY and waited 9 years to get here. I think it is a good law and other states should follow. Working with international students for many years I have seen so many just try to get in the US on a student visa and then dissapear and never really attend school. Then you meet them working in Chinese, Mexican, Russian or Vietnamese restaurants or stores illegally. As long as employers will hire illegal immigrants there is nothing that can be done. I think the first thing should be: get tough with companies that hire illegals, fine them with huge amounts, so they will not want to hire illegals. It will be cheaper for them to pay legals higher rates than pay the fines.
Maybe it's not the best solution to stop people on the street if they have an accent (I still have an accent), but employers should not hire them, schools, hospitals should report to DHS if someone is illegal. Why do we have to pay such high taxes to pay for their hospital bills and schools for their kids.
And anyone should at least try to learn and speak English. My father-in-law came legally to US at age 85 and immideately went to ESL, watched TV in English to learn more and tried to speak English as often as he could.
I know too many people who have been forced out of their jobs so illegals could get them at cheaper pay.
The AZ law also goes after the employers. YEAH!!!
I hope other states follow.
Mexican firstthe Yaki indians never left after the American invasion who has more right to that land ask the Guadalupe town they had to incorporate to keep adobe in the building code
After 9/11, taking an airplane was never the same. Illegal immigrants, anchor babies, free social services, Education, etc. has been a gravy train for millions of illegal immigrants for years. The fact is that most of these illegal immigrants are latinos that come across our southern boarders. Illegal immigrants come in all shapes, sizes, and ethnic country of origin, not just Mexico. So if you think this is racist, look in a mirror. If racial profiling will catch an illegal immigrant, I'm all for it. I have a passport, if that is what it takes to expunge the illegals from our boarders. this country has on multiple previous occasion granted amnesty to illegal hispanics on at least three occasions and it has not stopped the flood of illegals from mexico.
If we just do the following, we could dramatically reduce the number of illegal immigrants coming into this county.
• No sanctuary for illegals
• Anchor baby status only if one parent is a legal citizen of the United States of America.
• No jobs for illegals.
• Pass federal legislation making English the official language of the Unites
• Repeal EXECUTIVE ORDER 13166 IMPROVING ACCESS TO SERVICES FOR PERSONS WITH LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY
• Deny illegals social services
Glad to see Arizona got the immigration law pasted. I get very upset to see all the Mexicans protesting in the streets for their rights~~ what rights. I bet everyone that 's out there protesting is here illegal or their parents are here illegal so why do they have rights. Do you see any of them wanting to go oversea and fight for this country? How can Obama even think about making all these illegals immigrants legal? They broken our countries law by coming here illegal so they or their families should not have any rights here and be made to go back. I f not in a few years our country will be changing it name because there will be more Mexicians here than Americans. We haven't ever changed for anyother country or would they change their laws for us. Race has nothing to do with any of this black or white. Mexicans is not a color it is a different country. The black and white in this country all pay taxes, fight for this country, have the same laws to live by, and all speak english. Not us having to learn their language instead of them learning ours.
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Isable Garcia garicia makes a valid point, and to further expand on it the United States has had much to do with it, as they have displaced many other natives in other countries, by appointing puppet presidents were they see only to see the US perspective, and take land from its indigenous people to American Companies for their use as they did using the CIA in Guatemala for many years. However, it is time to accept that because of our intervention and governement ovetake we have had much to gain from outsourcing, and this impact of immigration was inrelation with our intervention in Latin America, and it has come to affect us now for the last few decades because we never let them economize respectively without disturbance from the United States. Our society has as much fault for become addicted to narcotics which have tained our communities, and have given rise to cartel wars affecting Latin America. These "illegal immigrants" only hope to be settled in a state government that have better regualtions than theres native homes.
“We the People” sit under an administration and Congress that are relentless in their efforts to enforce their will against the people of the United States. Furthermore, the final step in our pseudo-check-and- balance system is the Supreme Court, which rules with a loose interpretation of the Constitution as if our sacred document is dynamic.
The Tenth amendment and the Bill of Rights are crystal clear......
“Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”
The people of the Arizona Republic have spoken!
The comments from the Mexican man calling himself a legal immigrant – Latino – stating this law will cause more criminal activity is pure bull. One of my son–in-law's is Mexican – 4 or 5th generation US and we have a lot of Mexican friends all of which are sick and tired of the illegals!! We cannot support them in California any longer. We all hope California adopts the same policy as Arizona and give them and the Governor or Arizona a thumbs up – its about time we take our country back. I know no legal Mexican US citizen or anyone who came here legally from Mexico and became a citizen that feels threatened by this law- that is pure fantasy!!! Everyone is sick and tired of this status quo – illegals are criminals, depleteing out infrasturce and need to be returned to Mexico!! And illegals dont give a damm about the USA!!
the 1986 immigration reform and control act says if your here without immigration papers your breaking the us law. wake stupids if you have immigration papers and doing it right, fine! we are talking about the people who know they are breaking the us law and still come here to the us, need to go back and do it right. the hispanic community wants the illegals mexicans, chinese, middle easterners etc, to go back and file for citizen ship through their embassies. do it right, pay the money and wait like everyone else. if illegals have been here breaking the law and they know for 10 to 15 years, send back and consficate their property as a fine for breaking the law, that incledes their children and family. they are bringing crime and drugs. they ruining our states medicai,education funds,send em back now!
Congratulations Arizona to be the first state to do what every state should have all done long ago! Its time to be concerned for our fellow Americans and protect our borders from killings of people and animals, thefts, drugs and causing environmental harm. Also, lets get rid of welfare for these illegals, they are taking, taking, taking and giving back nothing in return. Where is your pride illegals? Doesn't it bother you all to take everything from our country that you all do not deserve? You should hang your heads in shame!
not all illegal immigrants are criminals, that is a very broad generalization
its stupid and racist. it gives the police more power over us. racist police can use that law as an excused. that governor obviously do not think and maybe have something again immigration. that means the police can pick on anyone and just blame it on the law but for white Americans.
Definitely in favor. Only 30+ years to late.
I'm from Arizona-Illegals are a big problem with no fear of reprisal.
Not to mention the long lines of illegals at the emergency room for free of charge attention while the staff drill me and my insurance to make sure I pay them. Why don't we bill the nation where these illegals are from? Why does it come from my tax dollar? Why does it cause my premiums to go up?
Watch the border and you'll see these people go to their PO Box collect a paycheck from social security and go right back across the border. What are we paying for? What is going on here?
Good Job Arizona!!
I'm so happy for AZ!!!
This law should pass in 50 states not just AZ, it's not fair,
Here in CA the situation is horrible, have a walk in LA, MEXifornia it looks like Tijuana
instead of progressing forward and correcting mistakes of the past, this bill proves America is going backward. Did we not learn anything about the Civil Rights Movement? Unbelievable that people are okay with judging others by the color of their skin. This bill is not about protecting the border, instead it is violating the rights of human beings!!!
this makes me sad to say that i'm a native Arizonian :-(
Honestly before people start freaking out – they might want to read the bill itself. It is not legalizing racial profiling. It's always ridiculous that everything has to be laid down as a "racial issue". Law enforcement will be required to show cause before they're going to ask for any type of identification. No one is going to be busting down the doors or any families just because they're Hispanic – unless you're living in a "drop house".
I grew up in Arizona living right across the street from a family who was here illegally. They were on Wellfare and Foodstamps while their father worked under the table doing construction and bought a $40K pick up truck and everyone was wearing Calvin Klein. It's this type of abuse that is frustrating, and what's worse is it's only skimming just the surface of deeper abuse and criminal behavior.
I'm glad the bill was signed, and I hope people will soon see that the only people who have to fear it are those who are here illegally and commiting the crimes that have plagued this state for decades.
The Arizona Governor Jan Brewer and all the people that are supporting the toughest law immigration act are out of their minds. I don’t see their point except that they wrong. Immigrants come to the United States to get a better standard of living. But then again they get CHARGED AS CRIMINALS because people with out heart want them to be like that.
The Governor I guess should look into her background and find out where her family comes from. Because this nation is about immigrants and I AM SURE HER FAMILY WERE ALSO MIGRANTS
I am embarrassed to see that we have Latinos giving support to this law; I guess they forgot that someone PAID the price for them to be where they are NOW. That’s the reason that many immigrants get away from their countries because of people like that. People that discriminate against each other, they think that they are better than the others because they have education and money. They think that because they own a house they also own the world.
This law is another virus that will contaminate everything, like the financial disaster that we had because it is bringing other entities that should not be linked to immigration such as the police. This law and actions will bring fear and a lot of confusion to the system that is not even working right. The politicians talk and nag about a broken immigration system but then again they are not doing anything to fix it. The Arizona government talks about leadership but they are not doing anything by this law because it is only affecting a lot of people. Leaders always listen to everybody not only the people that they agree with. Leaders listen so they can make the right decisions and I don’t think the Arizona government is stepping up as leaders, if they want to step up as leaders the governor and her government should start listening to the illegal immigrants and start making laws to help them become legal. They should start making the right decisions by promoting a law that will help not only the state of Arizona but to help the whole United States. Find better ways to protect the borders because many illegal immigrants are not criminals just because the drug lords that are fighting a big fight close to Arizona. The people behind this law is just stereotyping instead of becoming an archetype. This law is wrong and I think the governor of Arizona should stop listening to her closes friends in government and start making the right decisions and become a leader not a follower.
Will you boycott Arizona now that the governor has signed the immigration law?
Reprinted from Newsvine, original post by R. Donald Snyder
This law is racial profiling at it's worst. It is impossible for it to be enforced without racist actions by law enforcement officers in that state. It can not be enforced without violating the civil rights and dignity of Hispanic Americans in Arizona. In short, it is on it's face, a racist law. It, in effect, makes every brown skinned person a person of suspicion and makes them a target of every bigoted cop in Arizona for harassment.
Therefore, my wife, my family, myself and a number of our friends have decided that we will no longer purchase anything from the state of Arizona and will no longer give them any of our tourism dollars by visiting there again, until this racist law is repealed. Sometimes one has to stand on principle and this is one of those times. I urge every person who honestly believes in civil rights for all Americans to boycott that state also. I also urge Mexican citizens who live along the border, to no longer cross over into the state of Arizona to shop. To not give them any of your business or money.
I also urge any and all Americans who are identified as possibly illegal simply because of their skin color, to file a class action racial harassment lawsuit that threatens to bring financial collapse to the state or Arizona. I have no doubt that the ACLU and any number of civil rights organizations are already preparing the paperwork. So, stay within the law, but hit them where it really hurts, in their wallets! Sue the bastards!
So, will you boycott anything and everything Arizona? Will you refuse to purchase any products from their state? Will you refuse to visit them as a tourist?
I have lived in the state of Arizona my whole life. I am 100% for this law! I am sick of having to pay taxes when illegals who live off of THE HARD WORKING AMERICANS dont! You want to be here? Fine. But get yourself the RIGHT to be here first. Call me a racist or whatever other terms you can come up with, but I will NOT sit here and let illegals of ANY RACE, COLOR or ETHNICITY mooch off of MY tax dollars and MY job!
It's tough for me to be on this side of the argument considering I'm 21, whereas most of my friends and classmates are extremely against this law. However, I have a mind of my own, and I do support this law completely! Good work Jan Brewer!
Folks this is a good bill. The Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training are now tasked with training these Officers/Deputies. This is not just some free for all for the police.Just as any investigation, there will be particular factors that will come in to play before detaining a suspected illegal alien. No different from what I.C.E. currently does (trying to do), except now we will be tasked with enforceing what law is already in place. Since I have lived in Arizona, I have have realized that Arizona Police/Deputies have the most integrity and honest law enforcement and well trained law enforcement around.
As a peace officer I have come across alot of illegal aliens, and have listened to their stories of how and why they are here. It is unfortunate that these people have to live this way, but I do believe that if you want to be a citizen of this great country you have to do it right.
The citizens of Arizona are fed up with the serial rapist of children, murder, kidnapping that involves severing off digits, importing of massive amounts of methamphetamine/marijuana, and that its "what we do" while driving under the influence and killing people. I know and understand that these crimes can be commited by legal citizens, but the fact is that a majority are being done by illegal aliens from Mexico.
And folks, believe me, the police are not "mislead" and have no intention of racial profiling. We have enough other task to be preoccupied by profiling. If this law is abused by any law enforcement, you will be held accountable and will lose your job in this career. Trust me, none of us want that over our heads or want the shame that comes along with being police officer.
I think the new law in az will cause riots soon
It's racism pure and simple.
I think the new AZ law is great. Im tired of everyone being so PC. You cant call a cat a pig if its pink. It is what it is and its about time we start cracking down on illegal immigration. If the feds cant do it why not the states?
Mr. Holmes i think that the Arizona immigration bill is just fine and the ones raising all the stink have nothing else to do. The bill is just making sure that everyone is legal in the united states.They are not
picking out certain people. wayne parkfalls wi
This is to attack ILLEGAL immigration. Give the law a few months and see the benefits (and problems) and then see if we have to protest. Paranoid much?
The new Arizona immigration law is compeling enough to shock the fed into doing something effective about the Mexican border...before Santa Ana's army enters the US again, and this time never leaves.
America, land of the free home of the hatred. I'ts amazing how many people are so racist in this country. Many around the world don't even have the slightest idea how racist this country could actually be.
It is about time that somebody addresses the issue. Congratulations to the governor of Arizona. Washington has to come out of its neglect. Wake up elected officials!
Kudos to the Governor!It's about time some politician has the backbone to stand up for what is right.Other countries don't give illegals the rights that we do and shouldn't.This bill isn"t saying don't come to America,it is saying do it the correct way like everyone else!
Good for Arizona and its Governor! About time someone took action to protect our citizens. Illegals feel they should have the protection of our Constitution, and feel empowered to crowd our schools, bankrupt our states, sell drugs, join gangs and kill farmers on the border? What have Obama and Napolitano done to protect our borders from illegals? Racial profiling is a liberal code word for "prevent the police from doing their jobs". BTW this is only "controversial" for illegals and their liberal supports. Arizona Governor you rock!
BTW to the "teacher" who claimed parents of illegal students pay for their schooling, I say bologna. How can you possibily pay for school if you have FIVE families, with 20 kids, living in the same house and paying property taxes as if they are only ONE family. What part of illegal do you not understand?
This issue is not about race. This issue is about equality under the law. If I, as an American citizen, have to abide by the law of the land, then everyone else who is here must abide by the law as well.
Although something must clearly be done in regards to the current immigration situation, likely a combination of better enforcement combined with selective conditional naturalization and integration of those that are already here–a very complex, thorough,and detail oriented reform, this is not the solution.
This law will firmly establish a disadvantaged under-class, who despite "improved" efforts will continue to live, work, and raise their families in the United States. Consider the apprehension that most undocumented immigrants already have towards law enforcement, even local authorities who until now did not have the capacity to initiate deportation. What will they do when they fall victim to malicious crimes?–one thing is certain, they can no longer turn to law enforcement to protect their lives and property.
Furthermore, I would like to clear up the notion that undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes and unevenly burden the social service programs. When they are given their pay-checks, is income tax not deducted, is a sizable portion not put into the social security program? When they buy goods, do they not pay sales taxes? If they manage to purchase a home, do they not also pay property tax? So, for their taxes, what benefits do they receive?– Education, emergency medical treatment? These, combined, are not even close to the strain social security benefits, which they cannot ever hope to collect, put on the system.
The Asian & European immigrants in this country should be ecstatic with this new law in Arizona. Why should all of these people come into the country when they had to go about it the proper way? Sponsors, paperwork, etc.
This is in no way a good law. It legalizes racial profiling, it allows anyone who feels that their police are not stopping enough Latin people to sue their police department. It is a law written in fear and the beginning of a slippery slope toward Nazi Germany, which we spent rivers of precious blood to end. This law is disrespectful to everything we as a nation stand for.
This will not stop drugs or drug dealers as long as there is so much demand in this country for their products. We are only protecting one border while 3000 miles of our border is ignored, so please do not pretend that this is about anything other than racism.
The Arizona Governor stated they had to do this due to a failure at the Federal level. Yet when asked if another Republican Senator would step up to help Senator Lindsey Graham and Senate Democrats draft an immigration bill. I don't hear anything from Senators John McCain or Jon Kyl, both from Arizona. How big of a problem can it be if your own senators won't step up or any other Senate Republican, for that matter? I can understand why John McCain has to stay on the sidelines. The Tea Baggers are waiting for him to make a mistake. What's Senator Kyl's accuse? Doesn't this issue matter to Arizona and their voters? Get it done. Which to Republicans means stall, stall, stall and then say NO, NO, NO. I wish the Republicans can come up with a proposal, a plan, something to say well this is our idea. I mean you guys are against everything except for going to war with Iran. Which we cannot afford. Let Israel or the international community take them out. Let take care of American. If after Financial Reform you guys take care of both Immigration and Energy Reform. Then everyone needs to vote their incumbents back into office. That's every big issue on the menu. Wish you guys the best. Even though in the end I'm sure you'll find a reason to remain the party of No or was it Heck No!!
Wasn't there a program similar to this in the 17-1800's concerning "free-papers"? If my memory serves me correct, anyone with dark skin that didn't produce "free-papers" was dragged south. I could be wrong though
Wow... This happens with every minority group this nation has ever had. Guess what... RIGHTS... CIVIL RIGHTS... ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE. What Arizona law means is that Civil Rights from Georgia to Washington St. are threatened.
Having worked for the Federal Government I can tell you that Immigration is Federally inforced and a State can't simply decide to take over that function because they don't feel the Federal Government is working fast enough.
It's about time a state is enforcing illegal immigrant laws that are already on the books! If you are here legally, you should have No Worries.
It is now illegal to be an illegal alien in Arizona ... what a horror ... America needs to get some "stones".
ILLEGAL Immigration means Illegal. Against the laws of the United States of America.
You don't like the laws, then return to your countries.
Every sovereign nation has the very same law on its books. As someone who voted for Obama, he will definitely loose my vote if he supports repealing this law.
I like the new law, here in rural southern Missouri 13 illegals were found working, the local sheriff took them in and the Feds said to turn them loose, that they could not be held legally. It's caused quite a stir. Maybe this will be a start of something bigger.
My hat is off to AZ. Doing something effective to curtail the illegal alien problem has been long overdue. The virtual fence was a failure. So, maybe this will have a positive effect. I believe that the law enforcement agencies in AZ will be sensitive to the implications associated with civil rights violations in the course of their duties. AZ will be a test-case for this kind of questionable legislation and a nation will be watching closely.
Now, lets get Texas onboard with this legislation too.
Thank God and Arizona, its about time. Amazing that these illegal immigrants put their kids on tv to cry about how they dont know whats going to happen. The whole time nobody mentions to the children that their illegal parents put them in this situation to begin with. Start telling the children the truth. If they were not here legally then this would not have happened. Mexico is not the only third world nation that really needs help. If we open our country to Mexico's illegal immigrants then we have to be fair and open it for Haitians, Puerto Ricans, Bahamains, and all other illegal immigrants. We cannot, everybody has their own country and if they dont like it they should fix it, just like we do. I like my neighbors house and car better than mine he seems to be doing well, I know, I'll just move in without him knowing and use his stuff...he wont mind, besides my kids NEED it and deserve it. NOT!!
The situation has become critical with the drugs and violence in Arizona. The governor is acting to bring law and order back. People wishing to become residents of the United States have proper means to do so. We often have to show identification in the United States and accept that, so what is wrong with that – it is for our own protection. So obey this law.
What has happened to this country is appalling and somewhere the illegal goings on must be halted. Arizona governor is attempting to bring law and order to Arizona at last.
We cannot afford this. We have 10% unemployment in this country.
The country is going broke (all the politicians want are votes) the issue is not being addressed. What would any country do if millions of illegals swarmed into their country? We better worry about jobs for
legitimate Americans we cannot save the whole world we better start in our own back yard. Something has to be done and the Federal Government is doing nothing. I feel sorry for the poor illegals but I feel sorrier for the American citizens who are now jobless.
Why is everybody freaking out!! I am trying to get into Mexico so I can get work. Thanks NAFTA
In regards to the Immigration Bill in Arizona and the tough new laws. If you aren't in the country illegally or involved in an activity that is illegal, these laws shouldn't be an issue. Why is there fear of being scrutinized if there are no laws being broken?
This law is a wonderful and I hope the State of Arizona defeats any challenges opposing it. It’s disappointing that the new law focuses on the weakest constituency, “the exploited illegal immigrant” rather than focusing on those who benefit most, “the callus employer”.
What will happen to the United States economy if illegal immigrants are no longer able to provided cheap labor? Change, Comform, Reform. That's Great!
Arizona has taken action to protect the rights of the majority at the expense of the rights of the minority. The US needs to adopt a immigration controlled progarm like Canada. It is not fair to make legal immigrates wait in line and follow many rules while those that break the law can come here, enjoy many of the benefits without paying for them. Adopt laws of control like Canada where the workers will be returned after the work is completed!!!!!
These protesters crack me up ! They scream about illegal racial profiling but none of them mention that a large percentage are in the country illegally and daily robbing the taxpayers of America of services and tax money because they work under the table. It's about time to correct this inequity !
Unfortunately this is only the beginning of fascism in our country which will happen on our watch while the news media like CNN look the other way and focus on the irrelevant (On CNN yesterday I saw a interview of an expert on UFO discussing the launching of rockets into space by the Air Force. How stupid.). In the meantime confederate month is declared in Virginia and Arizona passes a law requiring their brown citizens to carry papers proving they are in the country legally. if I remembered right in apartheid South Africa blacks were required to carry a Pass allowing them to travel in some areas and in Nazi Germany the jews were required to carry identification eventually escalating to their requirement to wear a tag eventually leading to the near extermination of the Jews in Poland. What is good about this situation however is I know the entire world is watching and I hope a worldwide boycott of Arizona is organized. Someone needs to bring this issue to the United Nations for condemnation of human rights violation by this state. Shame on Arizona and shame on the rest of us for allowing this travesty in the United States of America (a great country or a once great country?)
I think the coverage of the Arizona bill is hilarious. The talking heads (you included) keep saying things or showing clips to the effect of, "But this bill would make it illegal to be an illegal alien."
Well, duuuuuhhhhh!!!! Anyone who enters the U.S. without proper documentation (passport, visa) OR enters somewhere other than a legal Port of Entry has violated a federal law and is by definition a criminal. Might help if you'd read the law.
By the way, the same thing is true in almost every nation in the world.
As a foreigner living in Mexico (there are about 2 million of us Americans, mostly retirees), I can tell you there's no such debate in Mexico. If you're here illegally and get caught, you go straight to the airport and bye-bye. (Or, actually, "Adios!") No paperwork, no civil rights, no hearing, just GOOD-BYE!!
Illegal is illegal. ("Undocumented immigrant" is about as silly as "undocumented driver.") If the feds won't enforce the law Congress passed, maybe Arizona will.
To Joe in VA:
Make it over 100 million sitting on the sidelines, working everyday, and watching illegal immigrants ruin the financial backbone of the country ! And they need to stop the idea that there are no Americans that need the jobs that the immigrants have sucked up !
I feel Arizona has taken a stance on an issue that a LOT of Americans feel the same about.. The issue isn't about profiling. It's not about taking your LEGAL rights away. It's not a racial issue.
I would gladly, show my brown hair, blue eyed identification to show my LEGAL right to be here. The issue is about illegal (against the law) immigrants smuggling into our country, and stripping Americans of money, health care, food, jobs etc., which are rightfully theirs.
If the Federal Government would have done their job , Arizona wouldn't have had to stand up on thier own. I personally, hope other States follow suit. If Arizona is the only State to enforce this law, , it will only cause illegals to move to other parts of the country. It's time to send them back home, and let the Americans have their country back.
United States is a country of laws,
I think we have to respect the laws
I am an immigrant but I come legally from the front door I learn the language before I come here , there are many people out of United States waiting legally to come to this country my sister is waiting 8 years to come here and we don't accept somebody take her turn I become American Citizen
and I respect l the laws of this country, I learn the language before I come here.
I am sorry I have to admit that in our country there is no justice, it is unpunished crime and that is why I come here 45 years ago and I find justice, liberty. I CONGRATULATE THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA
I’m an American and I subsidized illegal immigration but I’d like to STOP!
What would happen if the Government imposed special tariffs, taxes and fines on employers of illegal immigrants? Would they continue to pay to play? Or Change, Conform, Reform!
A sad and tragic day in Arizona history. But, the mounting backlash created by this inhumane law may well cause the pendulum to swing back to a position of greater justice for all.
If an individual has nothing to hide, then the imigration law should not bother them. Also. I understand that in the State of Illinois the practice of showing your I. D. when ask for , has led to arrest if you don' t carry an I. D. So what is the difference. Also, if this can lead to fighting crime with illegal drugs, than I am all for it..
I think it's wrong to profile "illegal aliens" like this. Making our boarders stronger would be a smart idea because this will only increase violence.
To all those who say illegal aliens are stealing the jobs of "legal" Americans, I just one question for you. WOULD YOU want to do the job they are doing? Would YOU clean the bathrooms, work out on the sun to harvest crops or do hard construcion jobs?
The fact of the matter is we are ALL here as a alien, this should be allowed. And to those who say white people can also be stopped, ARE YOU freaking JOKING? They aren't going to stop any white people, ONLY PEOPLE with different color skins.
Myself I am an immigrant, who came to this country legally. From the beginning I learned how to improve my english. Spoke only english, because this country received me first as a guest and later on I became american. I abhor people who speak their other language in front of everybody, our language is english, not spanish, not chinese, ect.ect. If people cannot or will not speak our language, they should go back to were they came from. If you like to speak your other language, speak it at home, do not confront us americans with your language, its is very rude. I have only something against immigration, when people come here illegally, I believe in chances, but you have to do it the american way, not the mexican way, the american way. If you want to do it anyway you want, you do not deserve to be in our country.
I agree with Wayne. This is an example of what many states should do, it has come down to an issue of our country's safety. Preventing illegal activities, not only drugs, but being here illegally. Our parents, grandparents, great grandparents did it legally, they can too. And is it a crime for Muslin women to wear veils here???At this point yes....For our country's safety is at hand today. Why is it we have to bow down to their rules in their country, but they're allowed to do it here??? People need to look at the whole picture & not just the RACIST card
I would like to know, What are the jobs that the illegal workers are taking away from us US citizens? What is the pay? What I know through all the research that has been done and the comments of those who hire, the jobs we are talking about are farming jobs, cooks, dishwashers that according to the ones employing no American citizens want because it is easier for them to live off welfare programs. This Arizona bill is not the anwser. We do have an immigration problem in this country but we cannot have it both ways. Take the Mexicans and others in their situation blood and sweat and then required them to be treated like they are not humans. I also would like to know, once we have to pay $10.00 bucks for a head of lettuce, if there is someone to grow it, how much we will favor this type of bill. I hope all the illegal immigrants leave our country so that we can truly see the effect of it once we are starving as there will not be anyone to work the fields.
Cable News is misrepresenting and promoting Arizona's immigration bill as racial profiling. The police will not be stopping anyone without a reason such as a traffic violation, or involvement in a crime. There will not be random stopping of anyone. Negative comments are from people who have not lived in a border state and have no understanding of the problems caused by illegal immigrants, not only with regard to crime but also economically. I admire Gov. Brewer for standing firm against the federal government and Hispanic groups. We are doing the job the federal government has not done.
My family has been in this country since the 1800's and we are of spanish descent. Does this mean I no longer belong to this country?
If this is the case then I become the enemy of this country, and I feel this is what's going to happen to this country if Arizona continues with this law.
Finally we're going to take back our country from the illegals. Legal immigrants are welcome – very welcome. Illegal immigrants are not. First they destroy our desert crossing (and not all are Mexican). Then they bring crime into our cities. The human smugglers are not interested in anyone's civil rights.
As for profiling, having to produce a drivers license isn't racial profiling. To obtain a drivers license in Arizona, you have to have shown you are in the country legally.
Yes, it's about time , now just maybe some other states will follow the right path to a better United States of America. Stand up State Reps and do the right thing . Jobs are for the legal citizen not illegals.To many people are not looking down the road to whats going to happen if we don't stop this invasion of our rights.The illegals are having more rights than the citizen of America. Whats wrong with that ???????Everything
This puts police in a bind since they can be sued if they don't go after the illegals. But how do you differentiate... since illegals look the same as legals. An illegal Russian looks the same as a legal Russian, an illegal Swede looks just like a legal Swede. I'm guessing these two nationalities have nothing to worry about though. It seems that Arizona prefers to discriminate against a third of their legal population. They say crime, class sizes and taxes will go down... I can't wait for them to see these numbers don't change, or taxes go up because legal residents forget their birth certificate and get thrown in jail (it costs tax payers to put people in jail).
I'm all for the bill and think that it's about time. How long was Napolitano Governor for Arizona and was never able to resolve illegal immigration, and now she's Obama's right hand 'man'? So we already know the Federal Goverment won't be doing anything about illegal immigration anytime soon.
Think about it this way, do we US Citizens really think that if we were to go to another country to live and work that we can do it without becoming a citizen of that country? Hell no, we'd get kicked out in a heartbeat. So why then, it is okay for people to enter our country illegaly? If you want to live and work here, do it the right and legal way. This bill isn't about illegal Mexicans, it's about being a legal citizen in the United States!
It is a travesty that this bigoted legeslation was signed by the Governor of Arizona. I personally will not do business with any company based in that state from here on out. I will encourage a national boycott of that state for any convention and travel business. I will financially support any and all court contests to this legislation. It is apparent that the RICH arrogant residents of Phoenix and those in other parts of the state are bigoted racists. What are Spanish speaking natural born citizens to do? Must they carry a certified birth certificate or their citizenship papers with them at all times? This is truly the most ridiculous peice of legislation ever signed into law in the entire United States.
This is bigger than health care in my view. If the Dems go with the Illegals on this, it will kill any chance for them in NOV election.More people are affected by Illegals being here than any other thing.And will create more problems in the near further for all of us.Jobs, Taxes,and crime are just afew. Thank you Arizona. It's a start
if the illegal immigrants have their perm. resident card that is fine. If they don't then they are ilegal and breaking the law, send them back. Now that the law is going into effect in AZ watch out Utah, CO, NM and TX, they will bring their drug money and crime to these states.
Its about time someone took a stand and clamped down on illegal immigration. Temporary workers are supposed to carry a registration document card at all times just like you need to carry your drivers license, therefor ID cards should be on record if by chance its not on your person. By the way this is Federal Law. I live in a resort area with many illegal’s living in the area and during the recent census they ran like roaches exposed to the light. Many drive around without license and insurance and in the state of Mass they are entitled to free health insurance while the rest of us pay for them. Lets see, no social security, federal, or state taxes paid and from what I have seen in the past most of there pay checks went back to Mexico or Brazil. Well finally the Gov of Arizona has made ‘A change I can believe in”, to bad the President can’t do the same thing. Oh wasn’t that his election phrase?, never mind. I guess for some the panty waste attitude still prevails in this country.
I agree with the law. Don't just check people who look like
illegals, check everyone! Even if the country was in good
fiscal order,this law must be enforced.
Taxes Taxes Taxes. Who pays for the health and education
of all these illegals?
Get them out now! Maybe it's too late as it is!
Let's keep it real TJ we have well over 12 million illegal immigrants in the country and there is no type of amnesty bill that does nothing for illegals in our country! I say this is a great bill to find out who's here illegally and who's not here illegally! If your a legal citizen then what's the problem with providing proof that your a legal citizen? I can understand where people fear about racial profiling but in the same way immigration is out of control and maybe other states should follow Arizona's idea and do the same thing maybe then we'll get control of illegal immigrants in the country! I urge Governor Patt Quinn to pass a legislation for the state of Illinois the way that Arizona did because it makes sense!
Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)
Let's get back to the basics on this issue. There are currently immigration laws that are not being enforced. Why aren't they being enforced? Millions of people, including my parents, have entered our country legally following the laws of our land. If one wants to come to and live in our country then they should comply with our laws. The illegal immigrants have taken jobs away from Americans, have stolen the identities of Americans, have added to the overcrowding of our hospital emergency rooms, have stolen the taxpayers money by filing false claims for state aid (welfare), have taken over the classrooms in our schools and have greatly increased crime in our communities because they cannot obtain legal jobs for proper wages along with the other benefits our country offers. The Mexican drug cartel has crossed our borders and is actively recruiting young Americans to join the cartel and traffic illegal drugs into our country. The mis-use of American citizen's tax dollars to support the illegal immigrants must stop. ..after all we are in a serious recession. Having an open door policy allows unrestricted acces to our country by everyone and anyone, including terrorists. The Federal government has failed to secure our borders by not enforcing the current immigration laws. The Federal authorities are afraid to alienate the legal Hispanic community because they rely on their votes for re-election. I applaud Governor Brewer for her courage to have local law enforcement do what the Federal authorities have failed to do. Before anyone, including President Obama, criticizes Arizona they should come here to live and experience the reality of what goes on here with the illegal immigrants....drugs, crime, slums, high speed chases causing accidents and injuries, etc. The illegal immigrants have committed a crime by entering our country in the first place. People are fooling themselves if they believe that the illegal immigrants will abide by our laws...they are already criminals for entering our country in the manner that they did.
Is this about votes or right or wrong ? This is about Illegals in our America. Not votes in Nov. or 2012. If you worked in a factory were 70-90 % are illegals you know why they must go. Too many America's are out of jobs because of these illegals.Punish any business that has illegals working for them, This will help send them back home.
I live in Tucson, approx 80 miles from the mexican border. I couldn't be happier about this bill! It is about time someone did something about this HUGE, LONG TIME PROBLEM!!! I'm tired of my children being 1 of 5 "white" children in their classes! These hispanic kids may be legal, but most of their parents are NOT!!! For those of you who do NOT live in Arizona... ome here & wait for hours to be seen @ the ER, try standing in line for any kind of help; foodstamps, medical, housing, ect. I promise that you will stand in line most of the day, wait 2 weeks for an appointment and be on a waitng list for years!!! All of that was BEFORE this country started going poor! We just had a murder of a man who owned property by the border. His killer(s) are in mexico & will never pay for what they did! Is that fair? I firmly agree with this bill! think that if these people want to be in our country than they need to stand in line & do it right! I also believe that any & all that are physically able, should have to serve in the military & fight for the country that they so badly want to be a part of!!! My brother was killed in june '07 fighting for his country. These people sneek into our country, put their kids in our schools & want any & all of our welfare benefits. Yet, they don't want to fight for this country, They don't even want to apply for green card!! Those of you who are not Arizona residents... Think about how your town would be like if you were us! Put yourself in our boots!!!
Once again the cry of the 'Sky is falling, the sky is falling' comes out when we, as Americans, try to protect ourselves from people that break the law......and we see the media flock to cover the crying people that will be 'persecuted' for the color of their skin or their accent. Where are they when a person is killed by an illegal.....do they cover the funeral and talk about the injustice, where are they when a hospital has to write off $20 million dollars for indigent care, where are they when an illegal leaves the scene of an accident because they don't have a license, insurance, or a properly working vehicle (This has happened to me twice....fortunately one was a bicycle that had hit my car and caused no damage)
They are not "undocumented citizens". They are illegal aliens and are breaking the law. From what I can see in the bill, law enforcement can only stop you if you break the law. This means that an illegal alien has, again-remember they have already broken one law by being here illegally, broken a law designed to protect the American Citizen such as speeding, running a red light, robbed a person, or gasp, murdered another person-here legally or illegally.
We have been politically correct for too long. A person in this country illegally is an "illegal alien" and not a 'undocumented citizen'. This applies whether they are Latino, African, Middle Eastern, European, etc. Nor do they have the "Right" to education, health care, food stamps, housing........and no, I am not racist.....I have friends that have come here legally and are living full, complete, Legal lives. Nor do I believe that all illegals take advantage of the generosity of the United States.
AND AMENISTY IS NOT THE WAY TO GO
The United States is not about Isolitanism.....We welcome the "tired, your poor, your huddled massed yearning to breathe free"......but please, when you come.....obey our laws and do it properly.......to respect the ones that came before you and to keep the door open for those that follow.
the only jobs they are taking are the ones you wouldnt be willing to do yourself. the underfunded and undermanned police force do not have the time it takes to take in and process all of the illegals here. besides the point that its racial profiling (how many white people are going to get asked if they are here legally?) if all of our police are busy detaining and processing illegal immigrants (about 3 hours for each one) whos going to be on the streets trying to protect the public from violence and the stupid things that US citizens do. If it wasnt so hard to become a citizen in the first place, we wouldnt need such racist and condemning laws such as this one. Its a clear violation of civil rights to harass legal immigrants because they are brown or black or whatever their race is and the president is probably going to have to take this into his own hands and get rid of it
CORRECTION.....Thank God and Arizona, its about time. Amazing that these illegal immigrants put their kids on tv to cry about how they dont know whats going to happen. The whole time nobody mentions to the children that their illegal parents put them in this situation to begin with. Start telling the children the truth. If they were not here then illegally his would not have happened. Mexico is not the only third world nation that really needs help. If we open our country to Mexico's illegal immigrants then we have to be fair and open it for Haitians, Puerto Ricans, Bahamains, and all other illegal immigrants. We cannot, everybody has their own country and if they dont like it they should fix it, just like we do. I like my neighbors house and car better than mine he seems to be doing well, I know, I'll just move in without him knowing and use his stuff...he wont mind, besides my kids NEED it and deserve it. NOT!!
It is about time. People are fed up, we are tired of paying for services for people that are NOT in this country legally. I am glad this has finally happened.
This is a situation that is bittersweet. It is our fault as Americans we have had such poor immigration laws. We are paying for it in many ways. Now we have illegal immigrants (humans remind you), families, some legal some not. Now they have to go. It is unfortunate and sad but as immigration becomes more of a problem i.e. terrorism, drugs, welfare, healthcare it is time to tighten the gates. Other countries such as Austrialia practice tough immigration laws and religious limitations. As an American I believe this is a step in the right direction.
***Now our big challenge ahead of us is cracking down on illegal immigrants with fraudulant identification or stolen identity.
I don't have a problem with immigrants. I have a problem with illegal immigration—not just Mexicans, but ALL illegal immigrants. The Arizona law requires naturalized citizens to carry their papers. So what? Every state in the nation requires every driver to carry a Driver's License. A similar law should be introduced at the federal level.
"They take our jobs?" Pleeeeaaassseee!!! They do the jobs we don't want to do, which in turn help our economy.
I Think Its About Time,Glade to See State doing some thing about it.Looked like most of protesters were Mexican
ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! This has nothing to do with immigrants and 'legal immigration.' This has nothing to do with racial profiling. This has to do with people being/iving in this Country illegally. We once gave immunity and legalized all illegal immigrants with the promise that this situation would not happen again. Well, it has and is has been going on for a long time. The Federal Government has done nothing about the immigration issue. Kudos to Arizona. Hope others states take their lead.
My street is made up of many backgrounds; we have Canadians, Italians, Egyptians, French, Polish, Chinese and Hispanics. We all share one language... ENGLISH, and everyone who is not native born has legal papers and is in the process of becoming a LEGAL citizen. This law is making a statement that there is only one way to come to America... and that is LEGALLY, no matter where you are from.
You know what you all try living here. I was born and raised here. I lived in the projects where we were always fighting the illegals because our friends who lived at a different projects were blacks and we hanged out together. They the worst racist against blacks. Ethnic cleansing in LA. Article in the LA Times. I live in the suburbs called Maryvale. For many years the illegals have called it Little Tijuana. I do not think people understand what really goes on here. Home invasions, drugs dealers they rent homes here so they come and go across the border, the drop house are everywhere. Yes 70% of Hispanic wanted this this. These people pry on not only citizens, but on their own. They always remind us ,we are not from here we do not have to obey your laws. My son looks white. The names they call him, threaten him. The so called Latino organizations do not speak for us. So before you condemn us, live here for month.
I think that bill is crazy, George Bush is the reason the immigrates are here. i think President Obama is doing a wonderful job. I think they are trying to make him look bad. Haters quit hating, let him do his job and support him
It's about time!!!!! Now let's do this in every state in the US. And let's start with CALIFORNIA. And it needs to start TODAY!!!!
wouldnt this be an expos facto ??? against the consitution
.... living in this country illegally is a crime yes, but when it has to come down to acutally seeing who is illigal, acutally pin pointing by the way a person looks because officials may think they are mexican ?? to begin with not everyone is of the mexican race living illigally in this country .. there are also people who are from other countires. Shouldnt they be targeted as well ? and how can officials possiblsay say it is not racial profiling ?? very rude of the officials of arizona to seek in gaining money for their state by suppourting the crime of living illegally in this country through racial profiling .... isint this like the 60's for real .. i thought we were living in the 21st century .. people were not able to learn from the past they need history to repeat itself again
No, the state of Arizona is right in making it a crime to be in the state, work in the state and etc. if a person is present illegally. I live in AZ during the winter months and I am always amazed at the attitude of the illegal residents that they deserve to be in AZ, deserve to get a job, deserve free medical care, deserve special exceptions compared to people who enter the country legally. I have friends in PA who are trying to become US citizens after coming here from Poland. It has been a long hard road of paper work, jumping through so many government hoops, working and paying taxes....but in AZ all you have to do is walk over the border. The media make want to look into the groups that support illegal residents because drugs, guns and human trafficing are full time business in AZ. iI common knowledge that they have front people who tell sob stories just to keep their gun and drug running businesses going. The Federal Government has turned its head while the state is left to protect the citizens. How could Obama complain about the Governors decision when he has just sits back and makes no decisions about border issues. Senator McCain has asked for National Guard assistance but no answer from the President. Funny, as much as the President wants to control our health care and businesses why wouldn't he want to do his real job and that is to protect the country, the borders and the citizens?
AZ cops already abuse their power, this is just another way for them to harass people mainly hispanic people, its such a shame that our government really never listen to its people.
WE DON’T NEED MORE LAWS! We only need a few good ones. How about starting with the original constitution? – I think our founding fathers, with God’s guidance, got it right the first time. The Arizona Immigration Bill is another example of how the few elite in power do nothing but divide America. If this pattern (by those in “so-called” leadership) continues, I’m afraid that we will only digress to a totalitarian nation, robbing future generations of the American dream.
Our Constitution is for American citizens. This is a price we paid for in blood sweat and tears.
i will never stop in arizona or shop from any company thats from there!!!! and i will never vote for the GOP. just another scare tactic from the right...just like it was when 9/11 happen...then it was the terrorist now it's the drug lords. and i bet the right blames the hispanics for the economy too.
Look i am a white American, i was born here! i will gladly show that i am an American citizen! The idea that this is a racist ploy is just ridiculous. It is nothing like the African American struggle or even the Native American struggle. Please learn your history instead of putting this inaccurate information on the web!
If I am understanding this correctly, because I am still trying to process this and can't even explain to my young children what our country is doing, if my skin is brown and I look latin I will be asked for proof of citizenship? How worse can this get! It is an embarrasement that our country has come to this. What happend to the land of the free? Where along the lines did our government leaders forget that they represent a country that has always been a dream for others. This is not about securing our borders it is more than this, it is about racism. The people in this country, their culture and theiri uniqueness makes this country as a whole unique. This will only create chaos in our country. Why is the government only focusing on the bad things. Just as latinos comit crimes so do others (whites,blacks, asian). I think we have to look at the whole picture and not forget that we are all humans. The border thing has always been an issue, I believe that it is more controlled now thant before.
I believe that there are positive things also to focus on, why not focusing on all the crime that other people do that are not from the latin community. Why not think about the positive things that have come out of having Mexican's in this country (fieldworkers). Who would be caught out in the fields working 12/hours a day with little pay? What about all those latinos holding a professional or federal position. I am certain that most have ancestors that were immigrants. There are doctors, professors, scientists, etc that at some point where either here illegaly or their ancestors came to this country illegaly. These are the positive things to look at. What happend to our history. Or is it that our political leaders are trying to make history?. The land of the free and the rights of the people will no longer be a symbol of this country if this law goes in to effect.
It is not okay to be profiled because you are brown. Maybe everyone else thinks it is a good think but I would certainly not be okay to be asked to pull out my citizenhip becaus I am hispanic. What is this state coming to. I say that if this laws goes in to effect then if you do it for one do it for every single american living in this country. I think that the government has had better control on borders now than every, all that money they spent on the borders and the e-certify they required companies to complete in order to verify if someone was legal when employed, what happened to that?. What is the problem! Wonder whose going to be working in the fields now................
If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness. -Theodore Roosevelt
Papers please,is a simple solution to a growing problem, All Americans go through a background check at some time to be part of this fabric we call America.Undocumented imigrants will not be sent to death camps but back to their country of origin.How long must we give away the fruits of our labor to people who take unlawfull advantage of this countrys genorisity?I am tired of people geting over on our system ,if their not documented Iam sure there not paying taxs.Send them home please the party is over.
Let me see if I got this right. If I am in the state of Arizona, and for some reason I arouse the suspicions of a policeman, he must then ask for my ID. If not available, I would be arrested? Okay, then what? Will I be deported? To where?
Sorry, but this doesn’t add up. I’m sure Scalia and Thomas will support this, but the others on the court?
Here’s a scenario for you, Arizona. How about if 10,000 people gathered in Phoenix and demanded to be arrested? They would carry no Identification and simply say “no entiendo” (I don’t understand) to all questions, a perfectly appropriate reply. And the next day, 10,000 more. Entiendes, Arizona?
You gotta Love this State and its people for having the courage to do what is right ! Rid themselves of ILLEGAL aliens.
This should have been done a LONG time ago. Hopefully my state ,KY will follow as well all others, for this is a huge problem in this country and it wont go away unless we enforce the law of the land.
We live in a Republic , not a Democracy , look it up people , get a grip,.
Arizona did what the federal government would not. They were justified and deserve credit for doing what was necessary.
FINALLY!! Bravo Gov. Brewer and the great state of Arizona.
A shame on our democracy.
When do the goose step and the salute begin. Can't be far behind. Will not step foot in the state until this is repealed.
Not enough illegals pay local taxes. Thats gonna upset local tax payers. If you complaining this is racist your either confused or a manipulative hack...
lets be honest, its true mexican ara hards workers. But dont have to make an excuse for my people to take your jobs. for real white people are just to lazy to look for a job, i mean not like you guys struggle just be true and get a job or just stick your usaual daylife and get a benefit card. Know what i mean brown pride for life.
The REAL issue is the infringement on the rights of American citizens and legal residents, not the illegal immigrants. If we allow the government to single out one race of people who's to say we're all not next?! And where will it end? We are a country built on immigrants that celebrated diversity. If you don't like diveristy, why not go back to the country of YOUR family's origin? Why wouldn't tightening our borders be the first and most obvious solution to this problem?
It is about time. We Americans are a laughing stock around the world when it comes to being tough...why should we not toughen up and enforce the laws we have now. My family has been in this country since the 1600's and by gosh they came here openly and above board and registered with the scribes on the dock, waiting to take down their information. They did not sneak into this country in the dead of night. Just the other day I read about an illeglal alien in my local community who is up for murder. The defense counsel mentioned that his confession was coerced, thereby violated the accused 5th Amendment rights. What? Since when do illegal aliens have constitutional rights in this country? Was I absent the day that was passed? I say let's stop this pandering nonsense and do what is right...if they are in this country illegally, back they go. End of story.
This is not the way to go about this. If you want to curb the illegals coming into this country you have to go after the businesses . Instead do random checks on companies to make sure they are not employing illegals. If the business is employing illegals, impose strict fines on the business. Letting the cops interpret the law is going to be a huge mistake.
As a legal resident, not citizen, I know that I am not breaking any laws, therefore I have nothing to worry about. Also, let's try and give our law enforcement officers some credit. Do we accuse all bankers of being crooks, just because some ripped off the nation? Should we accuse all officers of racial profiling when the law hasn't even gone into action yet.The population this bill targets, for the most part, are in the U.S working hard to support their families. And, for the most part, they are willing and able to perform jobs that Americans won't, or don't want to do. I see both sides to this story. I just hope the protestors, for and against, keep it peaceful.Violence will only add fuel to fire.
If Americans would do the jobs that these people do, we would not
have so many coming over here, fact is we don't want to pick our own
fruit. We don't want to take the low paying construction jobs, We are not willing to go stand on the street and wait for a truck to pick us up
to work an honest day's work.
I got some news for you people. The police ALREADY have the power to demand that you show identification, and you are required to comply. That aspect of this bill is dumb only because it is superfulous.
I became a new citizen in1993 that day they took my Alien Card
and gave me my citizen papers. It wasn't untl I retired at the end of March, that I should have had to notify the State Departament on my change on status.Without the fact that I had a valid U.S. Passport it would have taken over 3 weeks to clear up the mess.So I guess in Arizona they will have put me in jail .I guess if you are brown don't go to Arizona
Any law against illegal immigration is a good law. The problem is not immigration. It is simply "illegal immigration". Actually, illegal immigration is the only illegal activity that is wide spread and totally sanctioned by our federal government. If someone were driving while under the influence, which is illegal, they are booked, arrested, etc. But illegal immigrants believe they have the "right" to be here and that they should have the "rights" of the American people. That simply is not correct. If a US citizen is in a foreign country illegally, he/she have absolutely no rights. Neither should illegals have rights here. They are not citizens of the United States. Therefore, OUR rights do not apply to them, neither should our jobs. If their allegience is to another country, by all means, they are welcome to live in that country. They should not sneek in our back door and demand their rights. Of all the audacity! They have no rights. They are illegal. They should have absolutely no entitlements, freedoms, jobs, education, nor anything else in this country. Illegal is simply that, illegal.
All these "foreigners" from other states comming here (ARIZONA) to protest the Bill I say this YOU do not pay my taxes, you do not live here but you still want to protest- WHY? It is NOT against Anyone execpt Illegals. Why should any one be afraid to produce ID if asked by police? I'm not afraid of cops ,I like them they PROTECT me. Illegals are definately afraid of cops. If you are Illegal you have no right to be in this country
I think it is a GREAT idea to crack down on illegals! This should be a FEDERAL law rather than just a state law!
Now there is a law that needs fixing they say they were arrested at least five times before, so why wern't they deported after the first time!!!
Dont complain if you are here legally you have nothing to worry about If you are here illegally its about time they send you back to where ever it is you came from
i say if you are legally here then whats all the fuss about, American citizens can NOT go into another country and get away with it. i think it is a great idea. so what if they pick up the odd jobs, they are still ILLEGAL, if they want to live in our country then they need to be responsible enough to get it done legally, it would save alot of time and TAX PAYERS money.
Yea! for America for protecting itself finally. God Bless America.
The other states should follow.
The new Arizona law sounds interesting to say the least. I support its approach in combatting crime and illegal immigration, however from what I can hear, the legislation is vague:
an individual can be stopped and forced to furnish evidence of legal residence for "reasonable doubt of being in the country legally." Without any clarifications for what reasonable doubt is racial profiling/ infringement on natural rights and due process could occur.
A state enforcing a Federal law within it's borders, wow, what novel concept! Given the violence in Mexico with the cartels, spilling over into southern border states, it's about time Arizona took some action to protect it's citizens.
How is requiring the police to determine if someone is breaking the law an unconstitutional act? Being in this country without following the proper legal process is illegal regardless of where a person comes from. I find it ironically humorous that so many people complaining about this law are either hispanic or represent the hispanic community. All anyone has to say is "illegal immigrant" and EVERYONE assumes the phrase is referring to hispanics. I lived in Arizona for a while and I happen to know that in some areas, there is a high concentration of illegal Asians. Where are all the Asian support groups ranting and raving about "racial profiling?" If these hispanic support groups would spend half as much time helping people get here legally as they do complaining about the illegals being harassed, maybe a law like this wouldn't be necessary.
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