A plan to build a mosque near Ground Zero - sacred ground for many Americans - is being met with outrage.
At issue: a 19th-century building and whether it can be designated a landmark. If it is designated a landmark, the original building will remain. If not, American Muslim groups will tear it down and move ahead with plans to build an inter-faith community center and mosque.
Both sides continue to go head-to-head on the issue. Their most recent face-off: a passionate three-hour hearing held by New York’s Landmarks Preservation Commission last night. Those opposing the mosque dominated the hearing.
"It would be a terrible mistake to destroy a 154-year-old building in order to build a monument to terrorism," one woman said.
"We feel that it is a cemetery and sacred ground and the dead should be honored," Pamela Geller, a conservative blogger, said on CNN’s American Morning. "To build a 13-story mega mosque on the cemetery, on the site of the largest attack in American history, I think, is incredibly insensitive."
On the other side- some Muslim community leaders say the mosque could provide an opportunity for improving interfaith relations. "We're saying Muslims have a legitimate role to play in the social fabric of this country," said Ibrahim Ramey, the director of the Human and Civil Rights Division of the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, on CNN's "American Morning.”
"I'm ashamed to be an American today," said Rakif Gathwari, a Muslim-American, who reminded the crowd that people from many countries and religions died on September 11.
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Tony in regards to the mosque at ground zero,
look I Can understand people being upset about this, especially since over 90 percent of terrorists have been of the muslim faith. Perhaps a multi cultural/religious center could be built there instead, after all Islam is not the only religion that stands for peace, We need to stop bickering and start getting along, otherwise....who knows. Thanks!
Biagio Como NYC
To those people against the mosque: Have you ever thought that Muslims need healing also after what happened on 9/11?
Because of the extremists in their religion, they have been shunned, abused, and hurt. Stop yelling, stop being mad, stop hating. Start listening to what Islam is about, then maybe you can begin understanding there is a difference between most Muslims and the radicals...
"Where is the love?"
This is disrespectful to anybody who died on September 11, 2001 and to anybody who died rescuing people after the attack. Could Muslims be any more disrespectful? They can peacefully build ANYWHERE else and they have to build it as close to ground zero as they can.
you are fooling your self,there is nothing peace full inactive
islam.you better read the whole quran,to find what Islam
Part of any healing process is to understand what happened and why. Why not build a mosque to help citizens better understand that the every-day Muslim we find in our American communities are not like the terrorists from overseas, who seem to be ignorant to their own religion.
Dear Tony, I am a very open minded person,but to build a Mosque where all the innocent people died horribly on 9/11 is an insult to those of us who are living and a definite insult to those who are gone,not to mention Barbara Olsen and the people who gave their life ,so more people wouldn;t die. THINK About it MY GOD, Have We All Lost It Completely. Sincerely Dianne Nodwell
We have been on the trail of the people who were responsible for 9/11, and we call the exercise the 'war on terror,' not the 'war on Islam.' So, why do we want to deny Muslims from building a place of worship, even though many of the Islamic faith were also killed by Al Qaeda on 9/11?
I say they should be allowed to build a place of worship, as long as it cannot be proven that they are associated with terrorism. That's the American way.
There is no reason why a Mosque can not be built any more than a Catholic church could be built or a Buddhist temple. People who only see the Muslim faith as terrorist and as blind as the terrorists they hate. Christianity had it's share of what would have been call terrorism if the crusades had happened today. For Christians to believe that any man woman or child who would not become christian should die is really no different than an extremist Muslim saying anyone who is not Muslim should die. All Christians are not cold blooded murders because some are in the name of Christianity any more than all Muslims are terrorist just because some are. In our country EVERYONE has a right to their religion including Muslims.
Why would any city want to destroy a 150 year old building. Please communicate to the Mayor and the Preservation Committee that they should just do their job. It seems so obvious and so wrong that we would even be debating the building of a mosque near ground zero.
If the powers that be allow this to happen after all the crap that the Muslim community has done to the American people over the years then I will sell everything I own and move out of this country!!!
Tony – A plan to build a mosque near ground zero is absolutely wrong idea. These Muslims arrived here and killed innocent Americans and now if we allow them to build mosque, they are always having upper hand. They can have mosque anywhere else but not next to ground zero or New York city. All muslims are planning to build next ground zero and wanted to see the weakness of our society. If you see around the world , terrorist plots were planned by muslims. Look at our 9/11, London, Paris, Spain , India . We should not give them chance to build mosque next to ground zero.
I think building the center would be a good thing for interfaith dialog and interaction. Since 9/11 and every following terrorist attack perpetrated by Islamic extremists, Islam and Muslims have been painted in a negative light. There are and were cries from people asking where the moderate voice of Islam was when all of this was happening. Now that there's a chance that this center would help better facilitate the moderate voice of Islam and Muslims CAN be heard, you're going to stop it?!
The mosque the want to build reminds me of the arch of triumph in Paris the one built by the Romans to celebrate their victory there. I'm sure
ql Quida will boast of such. None the less if the Moslems will allow a christian church and a synagog in Mecca then that would be a fair exchange.
It's a miracle that the current building is still standing after the events of September 11th. So tearing it down would be a shame! Why not learn from Savannah, Ga and cherish history? The building could be easily refurbished for a multitude of purposes; why not make it a September 11th Memorial museum? Alternatively, why not make it a place that children can go like YMCA; a place where the children of New York can not only play supervised but get an education as well. While I don't think a Mosque, or those that worship their own personal god, has anything to do with terrorism, I find it's in incredible poor taste to put a Mosque there of all places; there's also the fact that I fear for the safety of said building and it's Mosque-goers should it get built.
Deep grief needs to be respected, not analyzed or corrected. This is a horrible place to build a mosque. This is not the place for decent Muslims to have the last word. I am not anti-Muslim but I think the idea of building a mosque near Ground Zero is completely wrong-headed.
A Mosque close to Ground zero. Well in America everything is possible. A Mosque should be the last thing to immagine should be biult at that site. I am wondering what the motivation is for those who think there is no where suitable to biuld a Mosque other than Ground zero. I think if the Mosque ends up being erected at that site we may as well end up having Christian extreamists who will just bomb the Mosque. What I mean here is that biulding the mosque at that site will just bring a hell of fire works. So the best thing is for authorities to just not allow it to happen.
It will forever be looked upon as the Monument to Terrorism.
If the Mosque is defeated, the Terrorists win. One of this country's founding principles was Religious Tolerance. If we sacrifice this principle by yielding to hatred, bigotry and irrational fear, we have lost the "war on terror".
Building a mosque at ground zero is clearly meant to provoke non-Muslims. I am against building the Mosque at that location, but if it cannot be stopped, then the Muslim that bought the property should make sure that a Catholic church is built next to the Mosque with the cross prominently displayed. If he is truly an American, he will make sure that this happens. With that said, I would be curious to know where the money came from to buy the property.
When Christian and Jewish religions can build a cathedral and/or a temple in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. I might be agreable. No other religion is tolearated in those countries. The muslim religion is non-pluralistic. Their religion is the only one. You can't even be a religious non-believer!! The tenets of their religion state that all infiedels should be put to death. Who are infidels? Non-believers. That means all other religions must go and their followers are to be put to death. And these Islamic followrs want to put up a mosque near ground zero? Even if one is allowed I doubt it would be left standing for more than a few days before being leveled. Maybe we could hi-jack an arabic plane and fly into it.
We as American's would hope to be able to 'trust' those who are allowed to make decisions for our community and nation. A choice such as this is terrifying and a horrendous gesture, encouraging and justifying the terrorist act of 09/11. How can we call ourselves Americans if we do not truly stand up for what we believe.
This act does 'not' signify States that are 'United' but, more like 'Untied'. Let's continue to make decisions that are 'not' in the best interest of our 'entire' country and that is exactly what we will become.
The symbolic meaning of placing a Mosque on land that was conquered by terrorist activity is doing nothing more than solidifying the act that we claim to be fighting against.
everyday i hear america is the greatest country in the world, the most free, the most tolerant, and "oh yeh we wont change our life because of terrorists, yet the racist ideology which americans have had for the last 400 years is once again coming forward, if its not one group of people its another and another and another, people suffer all over the world, stand up and get on with life, the ignorance of everyday americans has got to stop although i doubt it ever will. we as a people are much better than'-'all muslims are terrorists, all blacks are crack dealers, all whites are paedophiles, all hispanics are illegal. hopeless, very very sad.
RE mosque in N.Y.,
I am suprised that people cannot see the inherant danger in religion in general. Frankly we should abolish all these fantacy religions
because of the violence they all advocate, endorse, and teach.
The only way we will ever rise above ignorance and violence, is
realizing the truth about the universe is understandable. Knowledge is better than belief. and all truthes are self evident, Men are neither created nor equal. But even with our obvious inequitys we all deserve the same right to truth , justice, peace, and freedom.
Churches of all types deny these basic rights .
Having a Mosque near ground zero is like saying, Muslims of the world... We give up!!
Are we going to let them plant their flag of victory "A Mosque" on America's sacred soil.
We don't need to be reminded everyday who was responsible for the
attack on 9-11.
We need to heal on both sides. A Mosque is not the way and it's a slap on our face.
How would they feel if we planted an American flag on top of every Mosque in the world.
So, back off and stop pushing.
No mosque near ground zero or in the United State.These are terrorist groups using the mosque to organized attacks on New York City.
The controversy of the construction of the mosque has already aroused a huge amount of publicity. I think it is important to understand that whether the mosque is now built or is declined to build, it will make an international statement on our country.
At this juncture, how do we choose to portray ourselves? Are we a forward-thinking country which is accepting of all religions and nationalities, or do we still subscribe to fear and ignorance? The mosque will be a place of worship for Islamic moderates, it will be a symbol for countries around the world of our depth of understanding for the Muslim people. It could be a wonderful place of learning for Muslim youths of America. It would be a place where they can feel safe and accepted within their own country (keep in mind, these people are OUR citizens, and have every right to worship God as well).
For the fact of the matter is, religion has so often been used throughout the ages as a tool for power and a weapon for prejudice in the hands and minds of hatred. I think it is time we make a real effort to end that cycle, and take the real teachings of our particular forms of god in the way that they were intended... love all.
It would be a further, extremely detrimental disability to our country to believe that ALL Muslims act in the way of terrorism. Throw away small-mindedness and separatism, the betterment of our world depends on it.
I think its absolutely ridiculous that there is even debate about this issue. If there was a church being built in the same spot, not a single person would have a problem with it. I am a 17-year-old Muslim girl living in the US, borin in the US. Throughout my education I have been taught that America is the country of freedom. Thus leading to my lack of understanding in why Americans would see the mosque as a tribute to terrorism. the Muslim religion is about love and brotherhood. The so-called Muslims that lived for the thriving of the 9/11 attacks were not real Muslims. I don't seem to understand why the AMerican people find it so hard to understand that. We are not terrorists. We are the same thing as any Jew or Buddhist or Christian who wants to open a place of prayer.
Having a Mosque near ground zero is like saying, Muslims of the world... We give up!!
Are we going to let them plant their flag of victory "A Mosque" on America's sacred soil.
We don't need to be reminded everyday who was responsible for the
attack on 9-11.
We need to heal on both sides. A Mosque is not the way and it's a slap on our faces.
How would they feel if we planted an American flag on top of every Mosque in the world.
So, back off and stop pushing.
CNN reported the Imam who wants to build the Mosque wants to promote Islamic moderation and show a peaceful side of Islam. If that is his intention then out of respect to the families of the World Trade Center victims and out of respect to America, why can't he build a mosque quietly in a neighborhood where it won't stir up bitter memories.
The argument is greater than just a 19th Century Building being changed into a Mosque, a majority of Americans believe Islam was the main reason the 9/11 terrorists attacked, unfortunately this is a misunderstanding and a wrongful condemnation of the peace loving Islamic faith. Islam was brought before us as like Jewdism and Christianity was revealed to humankind, it has the same tenants 1) Believe in God, 2) Pray to God, 3) Give to the Needy, 4) Fast for God and 5) Pilgramage with Humankind. There should be no argument to build a Mosque at Ground Zero and I would actually like to see a Synagogue and Church. right next to the Mosque, so we can fullful one of God's most important messages to us and that is for humankind to live together peacefully before we live in Heaven together for Eternity in peace.
The muslims goal is to take over the world one way or the other. They put their mosque on the temple mount in Jerusalem and now they want to put one on our sacred ground. They take from others to promote their religion and kill Christians and people who do not believe in their religion. In Americal we allow them freedom to believe what they believe but not to take over our country.
two comments in favor of building the Mosque.
A Course in Miracles says, "The Holiest spot on earth is where an ancient hatred becomes a Present Love"...we need this healing into the singularity of Being.
and..."A Hindu man came to Gandhi and asked, ‘You expect me to forgive the Muslims. My little boy has been killed by Muslims. Do you expect me to forget that? How do I forget my pain?’ “Gandhi said to him, ‘If you really wish to overcome your pain, find a young boy, just as young as your son was, a Muslim boy whose parents have been killed by Hindu mobs. Bring up that boy like your own son, but bring him up as a Muslim like his parents. Only then will you find that you can heal your pain, your anger, and your longing for retribution'."
Although I endorse all religious organizations to freely speak in our democracy Iam soley against a mosque by ground zero. It is like we
were defeated by the aggresors.
Have we forgotten that the first Europeans came here for religious freedom? And what about a the rights of the property owner? I think protesting this mosque is un-American and unpatriotic. This kind of ignorance and fear saddens me.
I don't know why their is even a discussion about this , Yes their are radical's in Islam but their are radical's in every religion. While i do think that the Mosque/Community need's to be built somewhere else. The real problem is here are the ignorance of people to think most or all Muslims are terrorists and i think this could change that perspective. MOST MUSLIM'S ARE PEACEFUL
What could be a profound symbol of tolerance to our friends and enemies around the world, is being misconstrued as an insult to our sacred past. Many of my Arab friends, both at home and abroad are so worried that Americans categorize all Muslims as extremists and I try to reassure them this is not the case, but it's hard to do so when we see such intolerance.
Al-Qaeda uses this as fuel for its propaganda against the US both at home and abroad. If people wanted to build a Synagogue or Chapel next to Columbine High School, would there be the same controversy?
I don't think so.
Building a mosque on this site, so near to Ground Zero, is an incredibly insensitive proposal by the Moslem community. They have to realize how hurtful it is to the people who lost loved ones as well as to probably the majority of Americans. To so many of us, it looks as though it is a victory for the terrorists over non-Moslem Americans. The terrorists who flew those planes were all Moslem who demonstrated for all time their hatred of America and Americans. If the Moslem community making this proposal really want to try to show the rest of America that they are truly Americans and for peace, they will retract that proposal in deference to the dead of that Terrorist Act by radical Islamists. The Moslem community has had very little criticism for the terrorist acts of their radicals. If they have to build something, I suggest they give serious thought to erecting a building that will honor all faiths - Moslem, Christian, Jewish, etc., but not a mosque that seems to honor those who flew the planes into the World Trade Center and killed so many innocents. It is time American Moslems look to their own attitude if they want the rest of America to recognize that they are indeed about peace and reconciliation. As a Christian, I am commanded to forgive - but they make that very hard when they seem to want to rub the ashes of our dead in our faces.
The America I believe in is a diverse place with many different ideologies and people from around the world. A mosque near Ground Zero would unite us as Americans, not divide us into Muslims and non-Muslims. Clearly others believe in a more homogeneous society that tolerates discrimination. We should not try to further alienate Muslims.
This story is very disturbing. The people who lost loved ones should have their feelings respected above all others. My view is that Islam is a religion like many others that is taught peacefully, but there are people who use it to project their anger use it to justify hate. I think Muslims need to make more visible actions to denounce the violent people, not just sitting back saying they are peaceful. I want to see them acting more a part of the whole of society rather than their own world within larger society. I have known many Muslims and I think it it time for them to step up as a group to improve their participation in society as a whole.
The mosque should not be built at this time because of the pain of victims. It would make more sense to make a place for peace between all peoples there, not a gathering place for a religion that does not actively denounce radicals.
Tony, I enjoy your show a lot. Your warmth is refreshing.
Thanks, Margaret Murphy
Its 2 blocks away.
Bulding a mosque in NY. The US government is naive. They dont understand that the main goal of Islam is to convert all american christians to islam. And they are using our free of religion laws to do it. We should not allow it, unless arab nations allow us to build churches there, and stop killing our missionaries.
I do believe that true Muslims are people of peace. However, to insist that your wants, wishes, or demands be met without regard for the understandable sensitivities of others, whether they be right or wrong is not a peaceful endeavor. It is reminiscent of Christianity's attitude of Divine Providence in the conversion of the New World. God is not on your side, no matter how he is represented to you, unless you approach all others with true peace and understanding.
Perhaps a non-denominational Spiritual Center for Peace and Prayer at the site of the proposed mosque would best suit everyone's wishes.
Ebru Dugme, the problem is your open place for prayer here in the US are places to plot more terrorist attacks. If your Muslim countries would be more open to letting Christians and other faiths build places of worship in Saudi Arabia etc.. I might see value in your statement, I mean have some common sense on this one, building it right across from where 9/11 happen is bordering insane!
Putting a Mosque near ground zero is definitely an insult to those who died in the attack. Put the Mosque any where else but not there. This is the height of insensitivity. Many muslim countries won't even allow churches to be built and if something similar had happened in a muslim country even in a country that would allow a church to be built there would be rioting and calls for jihad.
No Christian would even contemplate building a Church near the site of a radical Christian attack of such magnitude because we would consider the feelings of those who had been attacked.
Hell no, this should never be allowed and I am highly offended by the actions of those American Muslims who are so inconsiderate to the feelings of the families of the victims.
America has to stop being so PC, why would we even debate of consider this? Would we allow the Japanese to bulid a shrine to the Emperor near the Pearl Harbor Memorial?
I honestly do completely understand what some of you feel. And if the idea of building a mosque does get rejected, I wouldnt mind it at all really because it is the land of the American people right. I would just rather be content with myself if people didnt agree with the building of the mosque because of the locations memorial importance then perhaps saying that its is because Islam is terrorism. You know, its just wrong, plain and simple. From a Canadian, Muslim, 17 year old girl
Absolutely not! This is a way to get in the news. If they were building a mosque anywhere else nothing would be seen or said on the news. They know exactly what they are doing and anything to stir the pot in America is what they want to do. Cause discourse – create a situation that will cause Americans to be angry. They could care less about 9-11, if they did they would not even suggest a mosque in an area that keeps America aware of what their religion is capable of. They want publicity and appeal for their religious cause. Don't forget what happened here and across the world. No mosque at 9-11 site!
Religion is the root cause of the attacks of 9/11, All religions are extremely polarizing despite what they claim to the contrary. Til we can get past the mysticism of religion and look at life without the blinders of religion, then and only then might this start to become a more peaceful place for all of us to live.
I think its clear that people dont want a mosque built at the place 9-11 took place, but I think that some people out there who believe that it was the Muslims who created the attack. Let me just say, those are not Muslim. To kill one person and then to call yourself muslim is just absolutely ridiculous. I think it is rather very insulting to associate such people towards Islam especially when they are not Muslims according to the Quran. It would be like viewing Christianity based upon the small amount of Priest who are alleged child molesters. And in no way should I ever judge a whole religion based on a couple of people. I do not see why everyone else has the right to do so with Islam and any other religion. I follow Islam because of the peace it brings me and not the violence most of you believe it teaches in this religion; simply because it doesn't. Have some respect people.
Faisa Fatah, Canada
Is there not one other abandoned building in Manhattan this group could tear down? I feel it's a total insult to want it built near Ground Zero. Those paying respect would be subjected to the wailings coming from the PA system as a call to prayer(?)
I see everything right about building a mosque.
Not all Muslims are terrorist.
Thank God I am not judged as a Christain by
all the crazies in the world that proclaim to be
Judge not lest you be judged.
I thank to build a mosque would be a GREAT! step for America. I'm a Muslim in America and let me tell you that extremist are not of Islam. If America would get out of their lazy thinking, they would learn to embrace Islam and Life. Islam is Peace and submission to God (Allah), Islam is not 9/11 terror events. That's not our nature.
This is a slap in the face to America. This will only make headway for violence between Muslims and those opposed to the building of the mosque. I can't believe such a thing is even being proposed.
I bet there wouldnt have been or will be a debate over a christian church being built anywhere near the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.
Why in the world, now they have a good connection at the top of the well, are they not putting this well on to production. Just run some pipe to the top and fill barges.. They can choke the well at surface. It is stupid to just let the oil go into the ocean.
Do you think it is becase they are affraid to get the actual rate of flow because of fines.. I have worked in the oil field for over 30 years.. putting this well on production (ie bring the fluid to surface and storing it) would stop the pollution, get an accurate rate and maybe make some sense. As I said before, they could control the pressure from surface and perform well bore integrity from surface. Someone needs to get control of this situation
No mosque should be built there now. We must have respect for those who died in the Twin Towers in the name of Islam and for the grieving left behind. Let some time pass before considering such a thing. Maybe after a century, it might be considered appropriate. But I really doubt it.
i have only a few words to say to you and all american, we as arab christians , we live here in canada or usa , we know how muslims think , and whats their gual ,the THE SHARIA IS THE NUMBER ONE GUAL FOR MUSLIMS , and you american , you dont know what islam and muslims want from you , wake up wake up before its to late , we ran from our countries in middle east because of sharia , and we come here and we see the muslims more willing to out sharia ,,, WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE
As a sign of respect to those who lost family members on 9/11 it would be a good idea to not build the center in said location. I'm all for religious diversity and freedom of religion but come on, show some respect. Why not build the center elsewhere?
My heart says yes, but my brain says absolutely not.
As a 17 year old Canadian Muslim,I can agree as to why some citizens might be quite frankly frustrated by the building of the mosque, whether or not it is induced through fear or lack of knowledge. But I think we all know that using a whole religion, a whole people, a whole message as a scapegoat to this undeniably tragic event really displays the misunderstanding of Islam within the American people. I dont think its an issue of memorial for those who perished, rather a settlement between `the enemy`. For all I know, building a church there would not have sparked as much flare. And thats just the truth.
Faisa Fatah, Canada
Some may or may not like this comment, i am for neither side i am solely for AMERICA there were muslims that died in the towers also if to premit them to build a mosque to honor their dead will ease there pain for the ones they loved and lost let them build it, would you blame a rapist or child molesters family for the crimes one of their family members committed. let it be
"They are going to tear down a 154 year old building to build....a Mosque, a Monument to Terrorism." This quote is epic. Religiously intolerant Americans. I love it.
`merica! Conservatism at its Finest
I am a U.S.Marine that has served my country ( the U.S.A.) I will be ashamed if we americans deney the Muslims of there American rights.
What do you want us to tell the muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan...that they are not welcomed in the U.S. ? They might no longer welcome us either ...U.N.I.T.Y its the only way
Building a mosque in the Ground Zero area is an insult to the thousands of people who lost their lives on September 11th. Although people have the right to practice a religion of their choosing, we need to respect those who died for no reason. Find another place to build your mosque.
Once again, everyone is missing the point ! It is a residential (family) area. If they biuld a church or any other religious structure there, do I have the right to buy the place next door and put in a gun shop? Or maybe a porno shop on the other side also.
NO... I don't think it should be built even within 20 miles of the site. Muslims say their religion isn't in any way a part of what the terrorist are. I've read most of the koran and a lot of it is simple jelousy of Christians and Jews and is very bitter toward them. It preaches that they are wrong and if they can't be converted to islam that you should kill them. I don't know what the muslim preachers are teaching but apparently it's not from the koran. DON'T BUILD.
Okay, so sometimes you have to stereotype because it's the most efficient way of doing something, due to stereotypes being pretty true.
What if it's not true though? We can't say that every Muslim in the world is a terrorist. We can't even say that most Muslims are terrorists.
A mosque is representative of Islam – not terrorism.
If the United States is a melting pot of cultures, then we really should embrace everyone and give them a chance without judging right away.
These folks want to build a religious center to promote peace and understanding of Muslims. I see no problem with this. It's time for some people to let go of their paranoia.
When you let extremists cloud your judgment then they win.
NO Mosque!!!!!!!! The money to build it is coming from an undisclosed country! If the man in the news clip is ashamed to be an American, strip him of his citizenship and send him back to his birth country. The ground is sacred to the American people. Let them build this Mosque somewhere else. The American people don't need terrorists.
There are many other places to build a mosque in America. Why the great need to build so close to ground zero? We're still fighting terrorism, and creating wars in search of those behind 9/11 and other attacks that continue throughout the world.
Perhaps once we've made peace, would be a better time to make a Muslim place of worship of that sacred ground.
I appreciate the idea of religious freedom and bringing people together but Ground Zero is meant to honor the people who died on September 11th and building a mosque 2 blocks away, while potentially bringing people together, will only be a reminder of the pain and suffering of that day for millions of people.
I have been paying attention to this story for a while, and after watching the clips of city residents speaking on the subject, I am disturbed, and ashamed. These men and women are fearfully clutching their American flags and refusing to allow Islamic people to set up a place of worship. The American flag stands for freedom. Liberty. Tolerance. These people are cruel, racist cowards, and their behavior will only lead to more resentment and violence towards the United States for an anti-Islamic attitude. The city should go ahead with building the mosque, as a symbol of New York's and America's religious tolerance and human brotherhood. It is only in this way that we as a country and as a world can move into a more peaceful millennium.
Ask these protesters if they would be opposed to building a church, synogogue, or cathedral in the same location as the mosque; the answer to that will tell you about the prejudice which is harbored by these protesters.
We live in a world that is composed of many religions. When we put anger out on the Islam faith, as a country where christianity has a firm hold in many households, we forget how there are terrorist-worthy "christians" in our country too. We left and made our own nation because of a tyrannical Christian sect in Europe. Christians have been responsible for crimes here in our country and overseas. The only reason Islam is being targeted is because we compare extremists in the middle east to every Muslim in the world. And with both Christianity and Islam having members over a billion, this is too large of a generalization. We are not 1930-1940s Third Reich. Stop attacking a specific faith because you don't like a few of the many members.
America is a free country. Mosques should be allowed to be built anywhere. Isn't it funny how now Islam is being portrayed as the 'villain' religion? Why?Not all people have the same views in religion. If we all judged other religions the way we judges Islam it would not be so bad after all. I have one more message to everyone: study Islam NOT the Muslims.
The Ayatollah Khomeini himself said, "There are hundreds of (Quranic) psalms and Hadiths urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim."
Let us not forget that Cordoba was the toehold Islam established in Spain in order to conquer the peninsula, which eventually was re-named Al-Andalus. Naming this particular mosque The Cordoba House sends a clear message by that particular imam and his international financiers.
Resist Sharia. It is oppression.
– Lance Hemmert
I think the Mosque should be built. It would be a healing and understanding monument and center for understanding. It actually would undermine terrorists, who thrive on fear and ignorance. New York has always been a melting pot for the world, my own mother arriving through Ellis Island from Norway. It's appropriate. It's time.
The people against the mosque make me ashamed to be American. They are intolerant, ignorant, and seem to be wholly uncivil. There is a large discrepancy between radical Islam and the Islam that the average Muslim subscribes to, but these people seem mentally incapable of understanding that. And it strikes me as willful ignorance. It's abhorrent. Here is a question for those of the opposition: if the 9/11 hijackers were Christian, would you protest against a Church being built at the same spot?
Islam is not itself a terrorist organization and has the right to build mosques. Let us also not forget Christianity's terrorists who bomb Olympic Games and abortion clinics, but they still build. The Catholics and Jews were going to destroy America in the early 1900's, but we are still here....Islam won't destroy us either.
I think that building this mosque shows that there is perseverance and tolerance still present in the US, the latter being something we often forget when speaking of minority religions. Calling this a "monument to terrorism" is hateful, is without perspective and is completely ridiculous. It makes me think the only reason some of these people make the claim to keep the current building up is out of spite, not because it could be a landmark.
Why not build as we are not at war with Muslims or their beliefs. All religions have radical fanatics. In time this monument will teach us the truth. Build it and the healing will begin for all.
One final thought, imagine the celebration that Al Qaeda will have if this Mosque is allowed to be built. That thought and image should be enough to really piss off any American Muslim or not. This is just a completely insensitive idea and should not be allowed. For the first time even after 911 I am angry at American Muslims.
I think it is a very bad idia because it is a disrespect to people who died at 9/11 and it is also going with the plan that the made in the first place before 9/11.
The World Trade Center was not bombed by Islam, it was bombed by radical extremists who were educated in madrassas. A mosque is not a madrassa. There is nothing wrong with building a mosque two blocks from 'ground zero'
A mosque should not be built near Ground Zero due the unpredictability of those who could seek refuge in it to promote a terrorist agenda. It has been seen time and again in, that in mosques throughout the United States, radicals have been allowed in to spread their messages of hate against our nation's leaders and our citizens. Until Islam starts respecting both sexes equally, it should not be promoted within our nation.
I don't see why allowing a mosque to be built a few blocks away from ground zero is any different than allowing the building of a church in Waco, TX. The people who attacked on 9/11 were radical Islamists, not the mainstream, just as mainstream Christians are far different from the Branch Davidian sect. As a Mennonite, as a Christian, I do not think that it is right to hold all Muslims as responsible for 9/11 just as I would hope that they do not hold the horrible things some "Christian" groups have done.
NO NO NO, no Mosque, near ground zero, period.. if you reacall and show tapes of 9/11, the muslims were dancing and cheering in the streets when the towers fell.. how insensitive, this would be a slap in the face to America, the victims and their families..let it get built elsewhere
As charged as this issue is, we have to stop blaming 'muslims' for the tragic events of 9-11. Al Queda attacked NYC and they happened to be muslim. It is not appropriate to condem all muslims any more than it would be to condem all christians for Timothy McVeigh.
I think this building should be restored and made into a 911 measum
also the trail for the terrorist should be held at governors island the old coast guard place. that way we don,t have to spend money on all sorts of security. we can use coast guard ships to protect the island and national guards to patrol the island 24hrs
I think there should be a monument that should be build at ground zero. The issue is just to controversial for anything good to come out of it. So I say compromise on it. Build the mosque but do it some where else than right on ground zero. There were many more religions that died on Sept 11 2001 than just Muslim. Thank You!!
As is our view of the 1950s as a time a racial hatred and segregation. So now do we segregate ourselves, this time with religion. Our country was founded on freedom of thought. Such hate has arisen from true fear from true violence. Those against the Mosque have real emotions but should recognize where these emotions come from. Should all Muslims be placed in a box? Are we not all individuals in America?
Blaming all Muslims for the evil perpetrated by a handful of radicals is tantamount to disparaging all U.S. southerners for the hateful actions of the KKK. In both cases, the generalization of guilt makes no sense whatsoever. I truly sympathize with all those New Yorkers who were touched by the tragedy of 9-11. I do. But we all share a national responsibility to make our country the best it can be in whatever way we can. Perpetuating the cross cultural hatred and misunderstandings that poison today's climate does nothing to improve our nation. We need to move on.
I say NO, I am here in AZ standing up for Americans and I stand up for New York and the rest of good Americans.
They can twist it however they want, bottom line is Muslims led the attack in the name of Islam.
If you don't like it, please leave.
If building a Mosque:
improves relations and brotherhood then a good idea
if it promotes even more hatred and intolerance toward Muslims then a bad idea.
Islam requires to loyalty to the country of residence...thus whatever is best for the country is part of the decision making process (in this case building a mosque) according to Islam
If they ant to put up a mosque on ground zero. There should be a moratorium on it until every religion in our country has the same opportunity to have the same access.
I am a supporter of tolerance, and feel that it should be practiced. At the same time, however, this is not a simple open and shut case. As an American, as much as I hate to admit it the idea sounds kind of touchy to me. Placing a Mosque in New York City is not what is in question here. What is in question is placing one very close to where so many Americans were killed. Maybe if cooler heads prevale and people are able to talk this out, a compromise can be reached. Because this place is hallowed ground to the families, but there is still no reason to speak to the people who support the mosque as if they themselves are responsible for the attacks.
Why haven't we built a tribute to those that have defended our country? Why do they have to build the mosque near ground zero? I can only speak for myself by saying I am tired of being tolerant of everyone's ideals, what happened to being a united country? Being American!
What a great way to challenge the terrorist?
These guys are recruiting people to attack us/US on the basis America stands against Islam..
What will happen to that logic when America can point to a mosque built on the site where it was attacked by people pretending to be Muslim.
America is a country built on tolerance and this mosque can be the poster to the world to show how America responds to men hopping to use this hideous attack to define a religion.. Lets us/US control this message and this mosque can the pulpit.
Adeel A Usman
I am against this location for the proposed NYC mosque. While I agree that the terrorist act was a criminal act, it was done by Islamic terrorists in the name of Islam and their so-called U.S. war against Islam. The sensitivity of Americans at this time is understandable – our young men and womjen are fighting a war against Islamic terrorists.. The unified terrorist groups all have Islam in common, and in Islamic countries, children are indoctrinated on Islamic law at an early age. Until Islamic leaders worldwide speak out loudly against the Islamic terrorist movement, their message of peace will not be heard. If they want to develop credibility in the United States, and especially New York, they must begin to do just that, rather than trying to shove a mosque in a sacred location to all Americans.
This is absolutely the wrong place to build a Mosque. The Muslims in America have to know this is viewed as an insult to non-Muslims. All of the people involved in bringing down the twin towers were Muslim and did what they did in the name of Allah.
On another note I can't imagine the authorities allowing a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue to be built here.
Given the amount of hateful and passionate protests given by many New Yorkers (even if it is a minority of New Yorkers) against the building of the mosque, I'm surprised that the Islamic community still wants to build the mosque. There will undoubtedly be constant threats against patrons of this mosque, if not the mosque itself.
It's unbelievable that Mayor Bloomberg even let this come up for debate. In Chicago, Mayor Daley would have never even let this be put in front of City Council or any other public forum. And, Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan would no doubt have allowed investigation of funding for the property and redevelopment.
No matter what they call it - mosque, prayer center, cultural center, Muslim daycare - it is a breeding ground for problems, for Islamic kudzu, a global cancer that pops up with problems on at least five continents.
If, by one of the founding principles of our nation and by American law, we have to give Muslims freedom of religion, then fine. Why though, of all places, near Ground Zero? Even moderate Muslims should know better than to stick a thorn in a forever-hurting front paw of our nation, New York City and Ground Zero.
While I agree that there is a lot of Islamophobia going on, I don't think they need to build this so close to Ground Zero. It's just too painful. What do these people expect?
to allow the attack on 9/11 to divide our country between christian and muslim would make the terrorist attack more successful. I think building a mosque there would show the world what america is about and reiterate we are not at war with muslims but with radical terrorist who wish us harm. i believe such international statements are our only way to win over the radical terror ideology and provide true security for our nation from such attacks in the future
The first thing to say about this debate is something I've been telling people for years. The fundamentalist terrorists are NOT Muslims. They're infidels and murderers. I'm from Sheboygan, WI, and I know more about true Islam than any of them who claim allegiance to God and break key precepts laid down in the Koran. For anyone out there who is familiar with the Recitation, know that like the Way of God-Ps. 77:19 (Judaism) and the Way of Truth and Faithfulness-Ps 109:30(Christianity), both of them, like Islam itself, became corrupted, even disenfranchised due to the "vain traditions and superstitions of men"-Col 2:8. Humankind's actual evolutionary process is a series of progressions, even an internal revolution in individuals, that allows for spiritual growth and enlightenment.
Building a Mosque is Acceptable – However, building it near the tragic site of the World Trade Center is totally UNacceptable. It should be built as far away from that area as possible and, possibly should be in another Borough altogether.
I agree with another writer that Muslims themselves should be much more vocal about the radical side of their religion. I have yet to hear any one of them come out and tell it like it is.
The thought of building a Mosque there does not bother me because it's a Muslim place of worship and because it's so close to Ground Zero. I believe that the United States should be tolerant of all people, races, and especially religions. I am not a Muslim, but religious freedom is what this country was built on and that means accepting religions and their places of worship that differ from mine. I would not want anyone rejecting my church from building somewhere because of our beliefs and how we choose to worship. I do, however, hate to see old buildings torn down for any reason. Each demolition takes away a piece of our history little by little.
I have nothing against people having their religion BUT it does not belong in that section. If before it was commercial for business why now is it being allowed to put a mosque there. Put back business or put a park in.
To those who says the Quran preaches hate, please reread your old testament, where stoning is a punishment for many MANY things.
The mosque in Manhattan should be allowed for several reasons. Firstly, it is a mistake to believe that the 9/11 hijackers were representing all of Islam; rather they were only representing the hateful ideology of al-Qaeda. Secondly, no one has stated how far is far enough from Ground Zero to build such a mosque. Should it be one mile? Ten miles? One hundred miles? Thirdly, a mosque is a place of worship and this mosque should be no different. As far as I know, no one is proposing a center for jihadist ideology. If they were, then it would be legitimate to oppose such a mosque. Otherwise, a mosque is a place for worship of God, much like a Synagogue or a Church.
The memory and pain of 9-11 must not be allowed to negate the diversity and openness of New York City or the U.S. If opennes does not win out, the terrorists have accomplished their purpose.
The problem isn't the mosque or where it is/will be located. Rather, the issue arises when looking at the lack of dialogue, communication, and understanding between Muslims and people of other faiths.
The perpetrators of 9/11 not only hijacked the planes; they also hijacked a religion. Not only were thousands of precious lives lost; a proper vision of what Islam actually is was also destroyed.
The mosque could be a bridge that fosters understanding and tolerance between faiths, and could allow for a view into what many of us fail to see.
As an American Muslim, I feel saddened that some people oppose the construction of a Mosque. Last time I checked, it is the right of all Americans to have a place of worship, and freedom of religion. Just because a mosque is being built, doesn't mean its going to spawn terrorist activities. Have we all lost our minds?
Building this temple would give extremists a real foothold in the area for their operations. These people try to appear innocent but whom can you trust anymore? I saw program that said Muslims usually build mosques in areas that they feel they have conquered. American citizens or not, we are at war. Remember WWII and the internment of Japanese citizens?
I find it nearly laughable that people are outraged by this and making obscene statements such as "it would be a monument to terrorism."
Setting everything else aside about free speech, freedom of religion and every other basic right in our country, I can't believe people would be so crude to decry a place of worship simply because it shares a similar, and yet very inherently different, religion with the terrorists in the world.
By that very same reasoning, all christians should be shunned for the inquisition. All germans should be shunned for ww2. All americans should be shunned for the many thousands of deaths of innocent people in iraq.
That, however, does not happen. Because the rest of the world does not lay blame to an entire group for the failings of the few. This is america and this is the modern world; you are not more equal than others by religion or by having a lucky birth place.
I am a Christian and believe our country was founded on religious freedom and tolerance. I have friends of all nationalities and religions and am a world traveler and can appreciate the culture of others. I also don't paint all Muslims with the same brush. However, I don't think that we as Americans, in the name of "tolerance" and "political correctness" have to agree that the mosque should be built in this area, or made to feel like we're intolerant if we don't. I think it is a slap in the face of the vicitms' families and I find it upsetting as well. Build a mosque, or an intercultural center, somewhere else, but not where our entire country was terrorized and so much pain occured. Would the Muslims allow a Christian church to be built on their soil? I think not!
If the proposed Mosque were to be located further away from Ground Zero, it wouldn't be met with so much resistance. It shows a lack of empathy by those who want to establish the Mosque at that site, to the psychological state of the perhaps millions of people so affected by 9/11. If the building is historical, let it be restored as a historical monument and used for another purpose. Let them build a Mosque at another location in Manhatten.
I am a Christian, and although I know the building of the mosque will encourage Islamic beliefs, I recognize that the only way to bring hope to Muslims is by sharing true love with them. We cannot give them hope by preventing them from building a mosque. We can give them hope by building authentic relationships with them.
On behalf of all of Christianity, I apologize for the people who claim to be Christians who are treating Muslims with hate, ignorance, and an unforgiving attitude.
Is what is behind it all. I don't blame the Muslim Clerics for wanting such an establishment given they have shown this type of arrogance for ages.
~ no suprise there.
Any benefit a Mosque could have; would have the same benefit somewhere else. The instant uproar dilutes any positive message of building a Mosque at ground zero.
What a Joke.
This is a completely disrespectful to those who died on Sept. 11. Mosques have been found in the past to be part of the extremist problem here in this country. How could anyone think that this is a good Idea?
Unfortunately Americans frequently choose to give greater importance to symbols over the principles upon which the United States is founded. Building a mosque close to ground zero would stand as a testament to the very principles of freedom of religion and religious tolerance embedded in the U. S. Constitution. It is the integrity and purity of these principles, which Americans should defend and stand for, rather than just those objects which symbolize these principles.
First of all, this country was founded on freedom of religion. We cannot prevent the expression of the Muslim religion because of the actions of a radical minority sect of the Muslim religion. Allowing the building of the Mosque would show the world we still defend freedom of religion despite the act of a handful of terrorists. The terrorists don't represent any religion; I'm sure 99.9% of Muslims would agree.
Notwithstanding the emotions that the issue of a mosque at Ground Zero raises on all sides, Americans, all Americans, have inalienable rights that should not be diminished or destroyed; that's the "rule of Law." The right to believe in whatever you believe, and to do it freely, as long as it doesn't harm anyone or destroys anyone's property is the very definition of America. In assailing Islam writ large, we wreak havoc further havoc on American values. And guess what? Then the extremist win!
What is needed is continuing dialogue and discussion, beyond religion, victimization, and emotion, about what we really value.
To tolerate discourse like this, contradicts what this country claims to be fighting against. Tolerance of intolerance.
10 years later, al qaeda would be winning if they can still turn Americans against eachother and against their constitution and 1st amendment right to "freedom of religion."
Remember – hundreds of American Muslims died in the buildings and as first responders at ground zero on 911, and thousands serve in our armed forces, protecting our liberties, and trying to capture the villians who attacks ALL of us.
American Muslims do not accept any "collective guilt" with the villians who perpetrated the criminal act against OUR nation and they do not represent us or our religion.
Islamaphobes try to bundle all Muslims into on heap... an insult – that would be like saying no churches can be built in OK City because of Tim McVeigh's govt building bombing – also a ridiculous notion.
NYS Gov candidate Lazio is so desperate for any coverage because he knows he has no chance that he'll attack the constitution and his fellow Americans to get on camera – despicable ! ...and he wants to be in the highest office in the state ? What a laugh !
hi i'm from belfast and over here visiting relatives in virginia and i seen on cnn news about the proposals to build a mosque next to ground zero, i think that is absurd, why would anyone want to build it their, i think them people are just trying to antagonize americans because yous are letting them get away with so much, i'm not rascist but if they want to pray and stuff and argue about getting their own ways then let them go back to their own muslim country and pray all they want and where they want, it is totally out of order and i would never let that happen, what would happen if we went to a muslim country and wanted to build a chapel near something that was dear to them, we would get stoned or jailed or killed, it would never happen, so i would tell them to shut up or get lost, stand up for your american rights, thanks, keep the faith SLAN
I think the root of this objection is not racism but a misunderstanding of the faith of everyday Muslims. Muslim Americans have the same basic rights as jews christians Hindus etc. We are forgetting that this country was built and established based on religious freedom. This mosque will give Americans a chance to see the REAL Islam and not what is shown on the media today.
I think they should pick a different location to build a mosque.. It seems more as a publicity stunt to me. But if their is no law broken, legally– what can anyone say? Just another loop hole in our wonderful constitution.
Muslims need to heal??? what about the families of the thousands of victims that were killed by muslims terrorists on 9/11??? I'm totally against the idea of a mosque built so close to ground zero. This is not about racism, this is about respect to those who suffered most and still suffer from the 9/11 attacks. I understand this country is about diversity and tolerance, I'm an immigrant myself, but there are lines that should not be crossed, this is one of them.
why not send in the iraqi army to arizona to get rid of the drug dealers , after all the americans are not interested in stopping them. the us. army is in iraq so whats wrong with the iraqi army being in the us.
Islamists are not the only religion with blood on their hands. Fanaticism combined with any faith is poisonous to the cultures and people surrounding it. People being so presumptuous as to think they know with certainty that their beliefs are the truth and that everyone else's beliefs are wrong are in fact delusional. This exists in the Christian faith as well and has cost the world many innocent lives in the past. Let any church or place of worship be built anywhere, just don't let it become a hornets nest of hatred for others.
I cannot believe that this issue is even being entertained! This is just another prime example of how backwards the thinking of our society has become. Who is funding this endeavor? How can we trust that there is no jihad involvement here? I am just literally STUNNED!
Just how tolerant will the Muslims at the proposed center be if/when, say , if across the street from the Muslim center a Buddhist Center goes up with a statue of Buddha or an image of Christ?"
Are they going to tell us it's offensive and culturally insensitive? Is it going to be a one-way or two-way street?
I think this is the most appaling thing that I have ever heard. This would be a slap in the face to the ones who lost there lives and to the families as well. Why can't they build there Mosque somewhere else?
I don't think it's a good idea to promote sympathy for radical muslim by building a monument representing their contorted believes. America needs to stand up to its fundementals and stop being so lenient with the people who are trying to terrorize Us.
Absoutely NO. These people are doing this out of contemp for Americans. We have been told over and over what the muslims plans are. Please quit taking up for these people. They want to destroy our country. Why else would they be here to start with.
I think what people are forgetting (or are just not aware of) is that it was not Islam who planned and carried out the attacks on 9/11. It was an extremist terrorist group. I won't pretend that I know everything about Islam, but knowing what I know about the religion this attack did not come from the religion. It came from extremists who just so happen to say they are of the Islamic religion. I'm a Christian and I know there are people who say they follow the Christian religion, but are extreme in their thinking. This thinking does not line up with the principles and teaching of Christianity. Why punish a whole group of people just because of what a few extremists did?? The wonderful thing about America is the freedom of religion that we enjoy. Now it seems you can have freedom of religion just as long as that religion is not Islam.
This is a very sensitive subject. Muslims have a right to have Mosques in this country, but since the twin towers were taken down by radical Muslim extremists, allowing a Mosque to be built there would be like sticking a dagger in a giant wound that is still not healed to this day. There is nothing wrong with having mosques built in this country, but I think it would be in very poor taste and very insensitive to those who have lost family members to Muslim extremists attacks. I'm sure there are very few Muslims in the Middle East, bombed by the U.S., who would agree to a Christian Church being built there. Think about it.
no this should not happend there up to something the mayor of new york should make sure they dont bulid mosque near the ground zero .
Good Day Tony:
As an African American with religious ties to both Christianity and Islam I find it hard to believe that people are being so callous. Christianity has attributed as well as Islam to millions of deaths. How can anyone blame an entire religious doctrine on the acts of a few? It seems easy to forget that we have had our own home grown terrorist here in the United States. Have we forgotten Timothy McVeigh who was a Christian and had no problem blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma with the help of other Christians. I don't see Muslims (who btw also died in that "terrorist" attack) trying to keep Christians from building any type of church or religious forum around that building. I think it is pure bigotry and fear that keeps this type of controversy brewing. I think that Muslims have a right and the State of New York has an obligation to allow these people to have their mosque. Furthermore, evidently people are unaware that the Mosque existed there prior to 911. Peace be unto You Christians and Muslims alike.
Since everyone agrees or most people agree this area is sacred ground, an interfaith area would be applicable, like a Meditation Chapel like in Cleveland Clinic's Glickman 's Tower....However, if one were to respect ALL faiths-as Interfaith designates- one would not make it a mosque or Catholic Center, add a pool, or add a school center. Those areas should be elsewhere, out of respect for everyone that lost their loved ones that day. Economically, those entities could financially thrive elsewhere-if the real reason, if people want "Interfaith," truly, for faith and rememberance,
then it should be an area for ALL faiths, not a mosque.
According to what you hear or read on T.V. media, email news reports, personal emails, the Isamic faction always raises a memorial of some sort to their victories wherever they are made. And since they won't divulge the source of their finances and where the money is coming from to build a mosque why are we bowing down to their diatribe about it being a religious facility rather than a place of pride as to their distructive terror on our country. Islam is not a friend of America not their, government, their religion or their people. Islam's main intention in this world is to rid this world of Christians and people of Hebrew faith and has been since the time of Abraham and if you don't believe that you are naive and stupid.
I find the level of intolerance extremely disturbing. Religion in general is many times used as a device to invoke bigotry and hatred: the Spanish Inquisition, the often extermination of tribes Native Americans by white's belief of manifest destiny, the lynching of African Americans by white christian organizations, the Holocaust are just a few examples of where religious intolerance and hatred can lead.
What happened on 9/11 however, was not about religion. It was about hatred of the United States due to activities in the Middle East. To protest a mosque that will encourage community outreach and promote moderate beliefs, demonstrates the evil underpinnings of racial and religious hatred in this county towards Muslims and anyone who does not "look like me or believe as I do." What is this? I thought I was in the U.S. where there is supposedly religious freedom and tolerance. These protestors, bigots and American religious fanatics are an embarrassment for this country.
Building a mosque at Ground Zero would be quite the statement by the Muslims, and which would be much to the delight of the terrorists. Contrary to what we hear from the media, the truth is, that one of the basic tenets of the Muslim faith is that it pleases their god to eliminate the "Infidels". An "Infidel" is ANYONE who is not Muslim! I am sure the Muslim jihadists are celebrating with glee at the ignorance of Americans who really think we need to be tolerant of their beliefs, even though their belief includes eliminating us. When will we realize that our "tolerance" is going to bring about the destruction of this great nation?
I knew americans could be a little more ignorant than the rest of the world, this is just over the top. Muslims are NOT resposible for 9/11, a handful of 'terrorists' are. How dare you people be so insensitive. I am a native to North America...a real native. I don't hold a grudge against Christians for destroying my ancestor's culture and home. In the grand scheme of the history of the world, 9/11 was minor. No one cares about the injustices that are going on worldwide everyday. The rest of the world hates us for good reason. We hog all the resources and money and occupy countries that don't conform.
One disaster in how many years, and we're still dwelling on it.
This is just yet another symptom of the racism that has over taken our country. Since Obama was elected I have noticed more and more people, most of them self proclaimed "Evangelical Christians," using words like the n word to describe Obama. I can't explain it, but as a Christian, I was taught that it was wrong to judge people according to their skin color, faith, or country of origin. I feel like I'm judging a group by saying this, but the people I see doing this the most are the Republicans, and Tea Partiers. Everyone seems to have forgottten the premise of this country that made it great! A place wher all people could live regardless of color, or Religion.
Building a mosque at this site in no way takes away from 9/11, but perhaps it's a first step toward understanding between Christians and Muslims alike! Isn't that our main goal? Don't judge an entire group by the acts of a few zealots. If I did, I'd be denouncing the entire Republican and Tea Party membership! Folks we need to remember that this is a Democracy. We don't live in the Republic of China. Do you hear those two words? Think about it. And as a Tribal Member I have to end with this. Most of the people in the Americas today are Illegal Aliens. The only true Americans were killed, maimed, and forced from their lands. Does it take something this drastic to make people understand that racism is wrong?
I am strongly opposed to the building of the mosque near ground zero. Working as a visiting nurse, I watched the second bombing in a patient's home, advised my office that I needed to go home, unable to work. Those two buildings were full of moms, dads, sweethearts,and adult children of our society. They were law abiding citizens, not a military location under attack in a war. The innocents were jumping out of windows to avoid being burned to death. The horror these victims experienced is reason enough to reject the plan to build a mosque near their ashes. Has a Japanese monument been built in Pearl Harbor? Display our love and concern for our murdered sons and daughters and the sentiments of not only New Yorkers but also our country. The mosque can be built in NYC, but not at ground zero. Anyone who doesn't understand the reasoning is intellectually and emotionally challenged.
The idea of building a mosque near ground zero is a disgrace. If it truly was being built to bring people together they would not be fighting to build it in a location that would bring and is a source of pain to families of the victims of 9-11. Inflecting pain knowingly, is not a way to spread a message of peace.
If they want to build an inter-faith community they should 1st take into consideration that recently there have been radcial muslims recruiting at some of their mosques, and be sensitive to the 9/11 victims & they're families as this was a terrorist attack on US soil. What kind of American living in New York can't understand that. They need to start out by guarding their mosques from radicals trying to recruit 1st.
The anti-Islamic sentiment seems to be growing. People need to understand that the more they marginalize mainstream Muslims, the more radicals they create. Rather than giving input to ensure the mosque actually represents American values of peace and freedom, we have a rush to judgment. This discussion should in fact be extended to the "controversy" some on the right are trying to brew up over NASA. I'm sure most of them are smart enough to know that the Administrator of NASA is not a scientist, he is an Administrator. Hes not the guy in a white coat he's the guy in the suit. I don't see how trying to get other countries more involved can be a bad thing when the goals and cost of the space program are so immense. I guess they would be happier if these Muslim countries started their own space program with China and North Korea. Who knows what their intentions will be then.
I woke up this morning and watched your program and i almost choked when I saw the story about the proposed mosque. I am a veteran and spent 18 months in Iraq. I believe it is a direct insult to my service and the service of all other armed forces past, present, and future. It makes me sick that New York would be allowed to be bought of by middle eastern money. I'm not against Islam, but the religion itself is not funding this operation and the people who are should be investigated thoroughly.
We are supposed to be tolerant of other peoples thoughts, ideas, and religions. Can we just for once consider what we Americans are feeling? Yes, only a handful of people are responsible for this attack on Americans. But, do the citizens of our country have to be reminded which religious zealots perpetrated this crime against us every time they walk by this mosque to visit and honor these sacred grounds?
A mosque so close to the scene of the crime will only serve to remind us that Muslim religious zealots continue to call for the death of Americans!
I think it would be very wrong to build it so close to ground zero.Of course not all Muslims are terrorists, but most of the terrorists were Muslims.
I think there should be more respectful of fellow citizens, instead of trying to instill cases of racism. There must be another building in the city that they can use.I am Jewish and I am not opposed to another relegion,but they should be more sensitive to others. That would go a long way to heal each other.
I find the level of intolerance extremely disturbing. Religion in general is, many times, used as a device to invoke bigotry and hatred: the Spanish Inquisition, the often extermination of tribes of Native Americans because of white's belief of manifest destiny, the lynching of African Americans by white christian organizations, the Holocaust – these are just a few examples of where religious intolerance and hatred can lead.
What happened on 9/11, however, was not about religion. It was about hatred of the United States due to activities in the Middle East. To protest a mosque that will encourage community outreach and promote moderate beliefs, demonstrates the evil underpinnings of racial and religious hatred in this county towards Muslims and anyone who does not "look like me or believe as I do." What is this? I thought I was in the U.S. where there is supposedly religious freedom and tolerance. These protestors, bigots and American religious fanatics are an embarrassment for this country.
I believe in restoration and this buliding was originally built for people of different faiths to live together. Perhaps the ones who had this vision over 150 yrs ago had a deeper insight in a time of turmoil to create such a monument.
Restoring the structure and again making it a place of mingling of more than one faith would be a tribute to the victims of 911.
After all, we as humans have been given a wonderful gift of choice as we each must work out our own salvation. What a unique opportuntiy once again to reinvent such a place.
While I don't believe in invisible men up in the sky or religious fairytales from the bronze age, if the mosque were to be built, Muslims will definitely be under a very watchful eye for a very long time.
Muslims worldwide must make a concerted effort to show America and the world that they are willing to step into the 21st century with women's rights, tolerance for other faiths, and to actually become a religious philosophy that is deserves respect.
Respect can only be earned – never forget that.
People keep saying how they'd like to see the moderate voice of Islam condemning the radical. This Islamic Center at Ground Zero is dedicated to doing just that, to prevent the youth and other vulnerable Muslims from being brainwashed by radicalist philosophies that mainstream Islam and the rest of the world condemns, and to bring them in line with more modern and progressive versions of the religion. It's unreasonable to demand a stronger voice from moderate Muslims if you keep shutting them down at every opportunity they get to show themselves and voice their opposition. Not allowing this mosque/Islamic Center to be built would be just another example of that, and the only result from that would be the strengthening of the extremists.
We all know that Muslim written doctrine preaches to destroy Americans, Jews and all non believers. Their agenda is to destroy us from within. Yes there are Muslims that reject that teaching. But they don't understand that their proliferation is a vector for this evil. So some defenders of the construction of the mosque are naive and the rest are trying to "pull the wool over our eyes", by again playing on the sympathies and gullibility of the American people.
This construction if allowed to proceed would be insane
90% of terrorists are of Muslim faith? really? I am very curious at where are you guys getting these so called statistics from....
On another note, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the construction of a religious entity anywhere in any place in the world.
If its okay to associate terrorism with Islamic faith then it is also okay with associating Catholicism with child abusing, and Christianity with money scams, so therefore I do not want catholic churches around any schools, and i do not want christian churches around anyone that is eager to give money
Does that sound fair?
Some of the comments are just plain racist and ignorant, and you should take these comments to Fox News blogs where prejudice and intolerance are widely accepted
There should be no Mosque near Ground Zero. Much is being said about most Muslims not supporting terrorism. But, what are Muslim leaders and followers doing to stop terrorism? To stop the stoning of women and other atrocities?
Let's look at what they do support. They do not respect the equal rights and dignity of women. Their very spokeswomen are wearing head covers. Western women have struggled for centuries to obtain equal rights and respect. The Muslim religion would take this away from us. Another issue is their support of Sharia law over democracy. Under the cover of religious freedom, they would undermine our laws and customs.
The Muslims cannot be trusted!
The constitution is a wonderful document that we should never stray from...it defines who we are and recognizes we are all different but all want and need the same freedoms.
To quote the constibution..."No law shall be enacted respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Those who want to have the government tell american citizens where they can worship and practice thier religion are at odds with the Constitution.
There is a group of Muslims known as the Ahmadi Muslims who openly and repeatedly declare that there can never can be Terrorism in Islam and any person who supports Terrorism can never be a true Muslim as understood by studying the Quran and the life of Muhammad.
the motto of the Ahmadi Muslims is:
"Love for All, Hatred for None"
can violence be condoned with such a motto?
I would support building the Mosque based on one condition. That would be when the followers of Islam drop any objections to any Christian Church, a Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu Temple near Mecca, Medina or any other location or shrine that the followers of islam hold sacred.
Once that occurs, we will make great steps to understanding, accepting each others beliefs. At the moment, although there is mistrust and discrimination in the United States and other countries, it pales in comparison to the lack of respect for any other religous beliefs as shown by Saudi Arabia, the caretakers of the Holy sites of Islam and many other countries in the Middle East, where unlike the West, blowing up people at a Wedding, Church or Mosque is a weekly occurence. Perhaps the Middle East can follow Indonesia in it's quest for tolerance.
The mosque would be too close to Ground Zero..... it is almost
sacrilegious to even consider it. If the situation were reversed
would Americans be allowed to build a similar "trophy" in one
of their countries? I seriously doubt it. The will of the American
people is involved here.... the answer is NO!!!!!
I really can't believe that some New Yorkers are justifying collective punishment on an entire religion because of the actions of 19 extremists. We're always told that New Yorkers are the most tolerant because of the diversity of the city but that is just plainly not true! I have a feeling that those who oppose the Mosque would oppose it no matter where it was built.
Not only is this insensitive it would be appalling and not allowed under any circumstances
Our past should effect our future decisions but we have to learn from the past and make practical decisions towards positive change.
Our ingrown terrorism have grown because we dont have a place for young muslims to learn how a true liberal muslim shlould be balancing religion and life.
Americans from different walk of life should help the next generation of muslims or we will never end terrorism.
America stands for a beacon of freedom around the world it is not so weak that a place of religous interfaith mingling and worship would shake it ?
The Proximity of the proposed mosque aside, This is America. America is supposed to support freedom of religion. I am not a muslim, but a large number of Americans are....especially in NY. It would be fundementally un-American to prevent the mosque from being built. There are extremists within all religions and in all religions, extremists are bad. A mosque is not an inherently extremist establishment. America is not an exclusively christian country. It's time to practice what we preach...,Tolerance. We are supposed to be the great melting pot!
To those who request that Muslim apologize for what some in their communities, should we expect Christians to do so after they commit atrocities? There is not collective guilt in this country, Muslims are no exceptions.
I have been told repeatedly that perception is everything. That being said one must keep in mind that the the reason Ground Zero became Ground Zero is because of muslim backed destruction of an american structure and landmark. That being said: To allow muslim backed destruction of another american structure or landmark; especially at Ground Zero; and especially for the purpose of constructing a mosque; clearly gives the perception of insensitivity on the part of muslims as well as a slap in the face of our nation and the american people.
Healing comes from forgiveness and understanding. Those angry at Islam as a religion are blinded by their pain and hatred. It's like banning the building of a Christian Church because of the actions of many morally bankrupt priests over many years. Those terrorists did not represent Islam. Anybody willing to learn about the religion would know that Islam does not approve of their wicked actions. Muslim groups have publicly spoken out against those terrorists. How much is enough for someone who refuses to listen? I am a Christian who too suffered on 9/11, but I am a decent, loving, open minded person. It is obviously the decent and most respectful thing to allow the Mosque to be built. I pray for all the misguided individuals who are against the mosque.
The clear message to terrorists around the world will be that they have created a foothold on the rock of capitalism and they will infiltrate the mosque appearing as "good people" and corrupt any good intention. To counter this, homeland security will have to have plants of "good people" there to uncover plots, etc. IF there are good intentions from the mosque organizers, do they or we want a breeding ground for this conflict? Years of good intentions will be destroyed by one incident. Pick another place. Enforce the laws and regulations that are on the books already about protecting historic buildings in NYC. No exceptions for religions.
I am in extreme opposition this mosque project! Supporters of this project would immediately label me racist but that is not true. Supporters would also claim I do not understand the true nature of Islam. I understand plenty! I have not seen the outrage from the "peaceful Muslim people" about the innocent lives lost on 9/11 to due to extremist members of their religion. I have not seen protests from the Muslim world about the bloodshed and murder carried out all over the planet on a daily basis in the name of Islam.
I did see outrage and protests from the Muslim world over a cartoon depicting their so called prophet. That is the kind of reaction I would have expected from the "peaceful Muslims" in response to the 9/11 attacks. That story also ended in the murder of the cartoon artist at the hands of a Muslim doing his holy duty.
What I saw from the "peaceful Muslims of the world" on 9/11 was people in Muslim countries dancing in the streets in celebration of the attack on 9/11. Scene after scene in the majority of the countries that espouse Islam showing their approval of the murders in the name of their religion.
We do not need any more proof ot the nature of this religion than has been offered since 9/11. Their solution is violence not peace. Actions speak louder than words. But we have not heard many words from the Muslim community denouncing these horrific acts by their members all over the globe.
As our president said in his innaugural address:
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness.
We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, and nonbelievers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth.
This is no doubt true. But in order for us to all live together in peace in this great nation, we must be tolerant of and sensitive to each other's beliefs. Not only should the fringe elements be tolerated and accepted, so must the majorities and the "in-betweens". For many well meaning Muslims would like us to beleive;, that building a mosqe, where the same religion is practiced as by those who attacked this country on our own soil and took the life of many INNOCENT people, would create an opportunity for interfaith communications is absurd.
Would they also feel this way if we built a Chrisitan Church, a Buddistn Temple or Synagouge in Mecca? And none of us even killed their people there! Would love to hear an educated response from one of my Muslim brothers or sisters regarding this!
My community is in a similar controversy. There are people protesting the building of a second mosque in the small college town of Murfreesboro, TN. Even if these mosques are not being built for anti-American activities, it is extremely insensitive of those who are supporting construction at Ground Zero. My concern is that the cry for tolerance will ultimately be the greatest weapon of terriorists everywhere.
First let me make it perfectly clear that I live many states away from Ground Zero, and have never had the privilege or opportunity to vist there. I most likely well never stand in the shadow of any buildings that remain or that will be built. But, the horror of the results of the terrorist hijackers, made the earth move for me and all patriotic Americans wherever they lived.
Ground Zero is already hallowed ground, and filled with the pain, tears, blood and death of all who were assassinated there. It is bad enough that this hallowed ground is already hosting the remains of the hijackers right along with the remains of Americans who died there. To build a mosque representing the faith of the assassins is equivalent to erecting a shrine to the hijackers, and just WRONG on so many levels. There is other real estate that would be more appropriate. How would anyone ever be comfortable that this facility would actually only be a front for a huge training and recruitment center for all the sleeper cells in America? Build the mosque and get a sly wink of approval from Osama bin Laden, and maybe he will designate his targets elsewhere next time.
My responses to some of the bleeding hearts above:
@Heather: You're right that extremists make life difficult for moderates, but that is a problem that muslims must rectify amongst themselves. They already complain about non-muslim intervention into muslim affairs.
@Jannah: If muslims want to be understood by non-muslims, first create an environment where muslim moderates and zealots can tolerate each other before recommending that non-muslims tolerate the intolerance of muslim zealots.
@Mac: Nobody is denying muslims the opportunity to build mosques, several of which exist in Manhattan/Harlem. But as a survivor and witness to the falling of the Twin Towers, I don't want mosque within 5 miles of America's financial district. I don't want explosives & firearms warehoused so close to the financial district, and a mosque would provide the opportunity.
@Michael: When Buddhists and Christians start killing Americans here and abroad to the extent muslim zealots are doing, their requests for building places of worship should also be scrutinized.
@Paul Y.: You say that if the plan for a mosque near ground zero fails, it is a victory for Islam. That is a victory ALL non-muslims in America can "LIVE" with.
I don't blame the people i blame the teaching of islam the people are humans just like us americans is the teaching that makes some terrorist theres no equality in islam. Either you're a muslim or an infidel theres no middle ground the teaching allows an even calls for some of the extremism.
We have to remember that terrorist did the attack on 9/11 not Muslims. If the mosque is to be built it should have classes on what true Islam really is to those who are not informed of this peaceful religion.
If they want a place to pray in lower Manhattan, let them have it. But not a new edifice. I would be in favor of multiple Port-A-Jon's to accomodate the Muslim worshippers, and when they bow before Allah, they can also wash their hands and face.
The Muslim religion is slowly taking over the U.S.and they are doing it from inside out. Why is this so hard to see? Look at England. They did just exactly what the U.S. is wanting to do and now the Muslims are demanding Sharia law be followed. Soon they will demand Sharia law for all people and we have just enough "bleeding hearts" in key offices across the U.S. that it could well become a fact. WAKE UP America.
If Muslims were so concerned about their reputation, then they would have the sense not to even push for this. They would realize it's completely insensitive.
Guess Muslims aren't expected to have the basic common sense manners everyone else in the world is expected to live by.
The nine eleven terrorist atack has saddened the entire muslims
living in the U.S. as any other person living in this great country.
However, linking this terrorist incidence with any religious group will
be unfortunate,since among the casualties were many muslims.
If this mosque is being bulilt to project the real image of Islam then why this controversy. I think it can bring about harmony among different groups living in the United States.
The distaste of the proposed Mosque in NY is the proximity to Ground Zero. Americans embrace religious diversity, and tolerance. However, we cannot forget what happened on 9/11. In my opinion, it would be an American Shame if it is allowed to be built there.
I am an American Muslims and I grew up in a Muslim mijority country. What most of the opponents of the mosque project do not understand is that extremist Muslims hate such interfaith project more than facing off the might of the United State military.
At the same time, we need to remember that Amercan Muslims are as much American as other relligoius groups in the country. As such, we have responsiblies to counter the Islamic views that the redical have to offer in our communities. Marginalizing the American Muslims plays to the hand of those extrimists.
Some Americans just love to hate. Thru out our history every time we are at war or stand at the brink of one, we just which hunt entire groups, nations and sometimes entire regions of the world. From burning witches, to putting a price on Native American heads, relocating Japanese Americans to camps, communist hunts of the 50's to segregation of middle eastern race (regardless of their nationality or believes). America we need to stop the anger and ignorance, this is a country build on people who left their land to create a better future for them and their families. So let's work as one nation to get pass this rough times.
A group of people are trying to generate jobs and boost the economy, build a community and all we are focussing is where are they from?
I am a Christian. Thruout history zealots have commited atroities in the name of Christianity to further their own dreams of greed or power. The Jehadists are no different. The Aztecs were wiped out for "spitting on the bible", when the real motive was control of their gold. These kind of people use religion to forther their own goals, because it is a powerful ralling force. We do not blame Christianity and neither should we blame Islam for 911. Blaming Islam only adds feul to their claim that we want to
"destroy" Islam. Let's be peacefull with Islam, and remember freedom of religion.
I deeply share the concern/frustration of pro/con voices on this issue of Mosque building around ground zero.
The truth is that construction of Mosque in that site would foster genuine inter faith relationship between every American irrespective of faith and promote U.S.A image as lover of all around the world.
the more i think about this mosque the more angry i get, i seen a comment about if we wanted to put a crucifix up in the middle of iraq ha what a joke it would get blown to bits so america is not a muslim country and it should stay that way
I think it is a disgrace to allow the mosque to be built on that site. Build it somewhere else. What would the muslioms of Irag think if we build a Christian Church over there? I think they would be upset as well.
Does it strike anyone else as peculiar, that we are having this discussion here in America, a country whose very formation came about as a result of the burning desire to escape the religious intolerance that was prevalent in England??
I believe the tolerance that we show towards other religions should also be shown towards the victims and families of victims by NOT building a religious building on their burial site. I do not think any type of religious building should be built there, how about a museum citing the courage of all of those who gave their lives that day to save their fellow man?
I find it so hard to understand why a place of prayer in a country so religiously diverse is such an issue. We as a country need to always remember yet simultaneously try to heal and move on. The best way we know how to do that as Americans is to rebuild bigger, stronger, and better. That being said where is the outrage at the lack of progress at ground zero.
If islam is a religion of peace then why are the shiites and sunnis killing each other for over hundreds of years now, again this are people that follow islam but yet they killed each other where's the love in that?
I feel it is sacriligious to all Americans to build a mosque at the sacred ground where so many people died in 9-11. Have we forgotten the horror of that day so quickly? If something has to be built there, it should be an interdenominational shrine for peace in the same building that exists now. This building should be preserved, as well as the memory we have of that fatal day. There is nothing wrong with building mosques in the U.S. because we respect religious freedom here. However to build one at/near the very site of 9-11, where people were indeed sacrificed by terrorism for our freedom and way of life, is a direct affront to all peace and freedom loving people. I think if this were examined further, we would find that this was an attempt by extremist Islamists to prove their point and throw dirt in our faces. It is too obvious to be ignored. This country is so great, forgiving, and committed to equality that we are sometimes our own worst enemy in our naiveté and cannot believe that other people are insidious and have a hidden agenda. Generally, I am a democrat and considered a liberal., but this goes beyond any label or politics. As Americans, we all love our country and its people.
This country praises freedom of religion and we should. However, this Mosque being erected at ground zero would be a slap in the face to every family that had a loved one die in the 9/11 attack not to mention the rest of America. Build your Moque, just somewhere else.
I think that a mosque should not be built. I agree with the person who commented that the building should be a memorial museum. If not a museum why not make it a an american community center for everyone. I think that it is disrespectful to build a Muslim mosque near ground zero.
Stephanie, Totally agree with you! I think it is very disrespectful to even think to build a Mosque anywhere near this area.
Well the Christians learned for the most part not to do this and force a religion on you, the peaceful Muslims turn there heads and do nothing. Why do you think there is so much Anarchy in that part of the world. Frankly I say get the hell out of there and let them figure there own issues out, countries like the US and many, many others have been intervening way too much.
I think it is an outrage that the muslim's would even consider a mosque being built at ground zero. This is, in my opinion, a direct affront to Americans, and the Western World, by the so called 'peaceful' muslims. There were over 3000 deaths created by the so called 'peaceful' muslims at this site. I do not believe that this site should be considered for a tribute to the so called religion that instituted their deaths, and the attack on our way of life in the West!
It is sad that this is even a 'controversy'. One of the mainstays of this country's creation was protecting religious freedom. The fact that we're even having this discussion is a shame.
America: Land of the free*
*as long as you agree.
I have two issues or questions whichever is appropriate
1. Those crying for the Mosque to be built and crying for Freedom of Worship, can you tell me if the same Freedoms are in say Saudi, Iraq, Iran or any other Muslim lead nation regarding Christians
2. Why is it so important to build the Mosque next to Ground Zero? can it not be any other place which is less controversial?
Until Muslims accept other Religions in their Countries, they should not get the Freedoms they want in Non Muslims Countries no matter what they say and how much money they have.
Muslims believe in building mosques at the sites of their conquests. Are we so stupid that we would let them declare this site a Muslim conquest? Come on people!
Why does this mosque have to be at ground zero? Why do Muslims want to shove their religion down our throats? I don't hate Muslims or Islam I just have no interest in them at all and I truly wish all those Muslims who believe in peace the best, that said go away I have no interest in your mosques or your culture.
I was watching the story on the mosque near groung zero,I t crossed my mind I wondered how many muslims were down at the site helping the cleanup effort or for that matter how many denounced the attack.if they want so called unity maybe those muslims can answer those questions.
I think building the mosque near Ground Zero is a great way for Muslims to have a voice. After 9/11 the voice of Muslims have been shunned. Most people here in the US view Islam as how how the media portrays in negatively and by the actions of a few extremists. Building this mosque would allow faithful Muslims to make a voice as to what Islam really teaches. We are a country of mixed cultures and faiths. With that being said, there is there is absolutely nothing wrong with building a Mosque to worship God. As a result of building the Mosque many people who viewed Islam negatively might change their perspective on it and this could lead to a better relationship with Muslim Americans. And I believe that a religion should not be based on the actions of the people who claim to be of that religion, by should be judged by the religion itself and what its scripture teaches. So those who negatively view Islam, go read the Quran for yourself and find out what Islam really teaches.
When The Muslim Brotherhood of America and Muslims across the world are ready to stand up and condemn all jihad including that of the 911 terror attack, then I might be ready to accept their "religion" as something more than a totalitarian ideology intent on converting or killing all "infidels." Any "religion" that teaches hate and condones violence in the name of Allah cannot be considered a religion deserving of our tolerance.
Do not build a mosque there.
Saudi Arabi doesn't allow churches, tell me my Muslim friends are they bigots? Why is it ok for Muslims to persecute any other faith in Muslim countries and its fine, but they come to America and want the freedom to do anything they want and if anyone questions them then its bigotry.
Although I am not Muslim, I do believe in religious tolerance and I believe they should be able to build their mosques throughout New York. But I don't believe in tearing down a building that survived a tragedy and building something to "prove a point." Does America need a lesson in the Muslim religion so they stop thinking every Muslim on the street is a radical? I believe so, yes. But I think it's too soon to try and make that point in such a controversial way. I love the ideas I've seen in the comments about a multicultural center or Memorial Museum at the current standing building. The multicultural center could teach about multiple religions and how they're all different, and how every religion will have stereotypes and radicals within them, but that we can all stand together as "Americans."
Americans, please learn to respect other religions.
There is deep hatred behind 911 attacks which came from rude intervention of USA government in mid-east.
Americans use its super power in technology and economics to do whatever they want to do to other countries, races, and religions.
Don't act as world police as long as your motivation is self-interest.
This is outrageous. It's completely disrespectful, and guaranteed to cement anti-Muslim sentiments. There's just no excuse. And of course all the politicians are in favor of it, Bloomberg must be getting some of that $15 million budget.
This won't stand. I say, go ahead, start construction. Watch what happens.
It will be real hard to be proud to be an American if we don't stand up and put a stop to this nonsense. There may be a select few muslims that think there is nothing wrong with building this mosque at Ground Zero. The rest will be thinking that not only did they bring down the twin towers in the name of allah, but the ultimate slap in the face to the American people will be them worshiping at a place now held very sacred to all real American citizens. Maybe we should level Mecca and then tell the muslins we want to build a Christian church there. Bet that wouldn't sit too well with them!!!
Wake up people! Wake up. What an atrocious thought. A Mosque at grond Zero to commemorate 911. What an insult to America and the victims survivors. All Mosques teach Jihad. We are infidels and we must die because we do not believe what the Muslims believe. Look at History. Send all Muslims back to their countries to practice this Religon or the Muslim Demographics all over the world will by 2040 control all that we love. Freedom. This radical religion is what we will leave to our children. Wake up World Before it is too late. Everyone should be free to practice their faith but not a faith that feels everyone who does not convert must DIE.
Islam is planning on taking over the world using our free speech laws.
Look at the English Defense League in England and their platform to protect England.
And look at Geert Wilders platform to save the Netherlands and Europe.
When the Japanese destroyed Pearl Harbor, did they seek and/or were given the 'ok' to build a religious temple?
I was born and grew up in a muslim country and am so grateful to now live in the land of the free. I am a Catholic. The people who are for the mosque have no idea what it is to live in a muslim country and what the muslims are like. They hate the west – the niceness is a facade.....
Build it else where, but not at ground zero. It makes good sense not to hurt anyone's feeling and sentiments. 9/11 happened due to some bad muslims, doesnt mean all muslims are bad.
So to stop further hatred, it is better to build the mosque elsewhere. People who are supporting the mosque – pl show some sense.
stop catering to muslims...they need to adapt to our country not the other way around, they don't allow Christians to practice without fear of being killed in Islamic countries. A mosque built at ground zero would be a slap in the face to everyone who was killed there and to all the families who lost a loved one.
"We need to stop bickering and start getting along, otherwise....who knows. Thanks!"
I think this can be done without building a Mosque in the ashes of our fallen family and heroes.
A mosque at Ground Zero. Not only is this outrageous, but it is an imminent victory for radical Jihadists and their ideology. Can you imagine Bin Laden watching this thing go up right next to his biggest triumph?! This is nothing but sick and caving in the the most left leaning liberals and their "give peace a chance" and "racist" mantras. How would we feel if the Japanese built a temple right next to Pearl Harbor 10 years after it was bombed?
In addition, it is clear that Islam is spreading like a disease worldwide and changing/overrunning entire nation's cultures. I read that British actually allow some forms of Sharia law outside of their court system! Arizonans seems to be the only people that see this and already doing something about it. At least they are the ONLY ones with the Cajones to do something about it!
Folks, this is only the tip of the iceberg. Have the guts to stand up to this onslaught before it is too late. If you are afraid that this looks like racism then you are sucumbing to their plan of world domination. They know that we haven't the stomach to stand up for what's right and push aside the BS race card that has so often been used successfully in the United States. This isn't about race, it's about our way of life and our traditions.
All you closed minded people make me want to cry. How can you be that way? I completely understand why the whole world hates us.
We'll build a mosque at ground zero when we can build a baptist church across the street from Mecca
Everyone please stop fighting each other!This is all confusion and scare tactics. It's been ten years since 9/11 and nothing has been done. How come the name of the person who bought the land hadn't come out earlier. How come ground zero isn't already a landmark?..Ten years!!!We fight tooth and nail with are nieghbors, while Those one the hill still get paid either way! McDonalds, Nike, Goldman Sachs,Apple,Microsoft,GM,Ford. None of the muti-billion "American" companies have stepped in. Why?
Wow. Not a good idea for peace. The radicals are going to eat this up. I'm disappointed that someone actually brought this ridiculous idea forth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a mosque being built... but RIGHT THERE? Seriously? I'm all for peace. "Love everyone" was Christ's most important teaching. I don't think this will bring peace at all. In fact, I believe it will stir up more hate than anything. It is going to be very interesting to see how it all will end up.
The mosque being built right beside Ground Zero is a bad idea for peace. I find it amazing that we are actually considering it. I personally don't mind, but I know there are those that will be really upset by it. And the muslim-radicals will use any disapproval as fuel. Of course, we haven't heard anything from them in quite sometime. I guess our peace is a little over-due for some disruption. Very smart move by the Muslim people. I just have to question your true initiative.
First of all I am an American citizen with no religious preference, I think this whole mosque thing is out of controll... everyone has valid concerns, how about we all calm down and discuss! All the fighting and hate being shown just means terrorism wins. How about a mosque and church side by side.... lets show some unity!
I have been reading many of these posts and none have been more profound than Nicki's, " As a Christian, I am commanded to forgive – but they make that very hard when they seem to want to rub the ashes of our dead in our faces."
Very well said.
A Muslim monument to terrorism on ground zero?
Now I've heard it all. Do you think that will make them our friends? Should we allow them to laugh at our stupidity and tolerance in this manner?
We have reached an era of tolerance in our culture that takes us to the brink of idiocy.
What I had in mind is more along the lines of what the French did in passing a law that outlaws Muslim women covering their faces Muslims can hide their identity and make themselves more effective at distroying us and we should not allow that.
Wake up, they are our enemy and admit to that in no uncertain terms!
Wow!!! That fact that we have to argue about this is ridiculous. Know what your hating people, not all Muslims hate America and want to destroy it. The sad thing is all you people are grouping Islam good and bad, in the same group. You need to get to know the real Islam, we don't hate any religions or countries, they are respected as equals. Having a place to pray to god has nothing to do with 9/11. It should just be considered a place to worship god and that's it. If you really knew the real Islam it wouldn't be a problem, since most of you don't. People all over the United states hate out of lack of knowledge, Islam respects and loves everyone.
I say no to any specific-religion based building anywhere near the site. A non-denominational prayer site would be appropriate. No religious affiliation should be involved. It puts them in danger.
The site should stand as a reminder of the dangers of religion and blind adherence to any dogma. I say we ban construction of all religious structures and convert those which exist to peaceful purposes.
Opposition to this project comes from an immense lack of knowledge coupled with lots of misinformation. All this is either due to bigotry or just plain no regards for hearing the truth.
First and foremost, the only "slap in the face" that this project is giving, is to the Islamic fanatics and their likes, who don't believe in religious freedom. Let's not forget that this country was built by people FLEEING from religious persecution, so denying someone's freedom to establish a place to practice their religion (whether they be Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Rastafarian, etc.) is against what this country was built on. Keep in mind that there are many Muslims that work and live in that area, so establishing a prayer space for them is a need rather than a "luxury".
Second, a 154 year old building that is damaged and is causing no use or income to downtown Manhattan, is either going to be demolished and rebuilt or revitalized to offer many amenities to the ALL residents of lower Manhattan, relieving the burden on tax payers and bringing income to New York's budget and companies servicing the center (utilities, sanitation, employment, etc.). Opposing such a project would be denying the revitalization of lower Manhattan.
Lastly, if the opposition to the community center would just open their minds and hearts to establishing interfaith engagements rather than bigoted barriers, then America and what it stands for wins. As long as there is this "us vs. them" mentality, then the flames of bigotry and ignorance will still be lit. It's time to put out those flames.
I personally believe it would be a big mistake to allow a mosque on that site. While many Muslims profess living peaceful lives, the reality is that there are many others who support both directly and indirectly the ideology of the jihhadist muslims and favor any type of action or activity that would hurt the United States. 9-11 has taken many of our freedoms away so as to protect the American public from those who wish to harm us. It is inappropriate for Muslim Americans to try and use the Constitution as a means to further their agenda. If these groups truly understood what democracy meant, they would be sympathetic to the Americans who lost their lives and support the will of the people over their own religious will.
If they really want to "improve interfaith relations", they should build their mosque at another, less controversial, location
Can we build a Christian Church next to the mosque in Mecca for our pilgrimages. To this Holy area. In order for us to one with God Almighty. After all we are all sons of the same father "Abraham". Why should our God given right to worship be taken from us by human man, in his traditional ways.Remember God is spirit and man is flesh. You can not unite the two. Two kingdoms exits. Heaven and Hell.
As I read these responses I realize one thing just about everyone doesn't understand. Muslims did not attack the United States. The terrorist who attacked the United States were Muslim. It's the fanatics that twist the religion and recruit followers; who by the way are generally illiterate. Why was the Bible written in Latin when the only people at the time that could read it were priests? Salem Witch Trials, Spanish Inquisition. There are churches where all of these atrocities have occurred. Read the Koran then make a decision. You'll also notice how much its like the Bible. I've read both. I don't think it should be built until Americans can understand the difference between terrorists and Muslims.
What happened on 9/11 was NOT Islam. It was a perversion, and I believe that any real understanding of the teachings of Islam would not allow for such acts. This is why I think that a mosque at ground zero is fitting. I personally think that it would be nice to include many areas for spiritual exhibition (such as a temple or a church) so that the we can all heal in our own ways from this horror.
I am vehemently opposed to a mosque being built at ground zero.
It's akin to dancing on our graves. No! No! Unequivocally no!
Can you say provocation? Free expression means you also have the right to exercise good taste. Building a Mosque that teaches quotes from the Qu'ran that all non Muslims should be killed is an abomination to the sacred site of "Ground Zero". The people in charge of this endeavor must have known it would cause outrage amongst most American people and should stop stirring the pot if they truly want Peace!
It is outrageous that Muslim community wants to build Mosque near ground zero. They couldn't find any where else to build. Moderate Muslims are not in control of their religion. Islam is hijacked by the Terrorist. It is true that all Muslims are not Terrorist but sure all Terrorist in last 20yrs are Muslims.
Anti-Jihad, I am in full agreement with you, this should not even be allowed for consideration.
I don't think we are focusing on the right underlying issue here.
Regardless if it were a mosque, a cathedral, a synagogue or any other religious place of worship... religion was the reason for 9/11. I heard the augment that "moderate" Islamics would help to bring understanding (or something of that nature) and it was the extremists that caused it; but you don't become an extremist without first being a moderate. Becoming a zealot isn't an overnight process, it take constant repetition and confirmation of belief.
He here is an idea... how about we build a chapel on Indian burial grounds and proclaim that Manifest Destiny was the work of extremists and not moderate Christians.
This is completely disrespectful. Anyone even thinking of allowing this should be fired.
Any construction company who builds the mosque should be boycotted. People should photograph anyone working on the mosque and post their pictures on line to a traitors website. People should protest every single day of the the mosque construction.
How could anyone even consider erecting any symbol of islam near the 9/11 site. It's insane. Those individuals do not stand for islam???are you sure. They preach this in every nation over there that violence is the way and 9/11 is celebrated as an heroic act.
I have been Iran, Iraq, Pakistan among other middle east nation in my oil career. They hate america, they want our money and wealth but their "faith" would love to see america divided and failing. And the vacationer and chief, big eared beast is of no help.
My nation and my party have gone to hell in a hand basket. Will real democrats please stand uppppppppp
A few points to make: 1) naming the mosque "Cordoba"; The occupation of Spain in medieval times is considered by many Islamic philosophers to have been an inevitable step in the manifest destiny of Islam. These same philosophers tend to see the lengthy European “Reconquista” as a tragic, but temporary triumph of the infidels. The great mosque at Cordoba was built on the foundation of a Catholic Cathedral.
2) When I can build a church in Medina, or Mecca, you can have your mosque at ground zero.. Or how about step foot in those cities? You know, speaking of tolerance and all.
This is at the very least offensive to all who died, and should not be tolerated by our Christian founded country. Our Founders are rolling in their graves simply because we are having this discussion....
Even if the proponents of this Mosque are truthful in maintaining their desire for some sort of interfaith project, we must remember that such projects rarely exist throughout the vast Muslim world – where the call to jihad originates.
Let's not delude ourselves into believing that a Mosque near Ground Zero would make an iota of a difference in blunting their hateful ideology.
There's no problem with building a mosque just as long as its some wheres else the Muslims are just trying to start some crap as always .
Give the American Society for Muslim Advancement and
Feisal Abdul Rauf something to think about: Suppose Christian extremists hijacked Saudi passenger planes and flew them into a muslim structure like the Alhambra destroying it and killing everyone on board both planes (or a smiliar scenario but targeting the Financial District in Riyadh killing 6000 people) ...then brag about it. Now move ahead 10 years and imagine less extreme but equally passionate Christians asking the Muslim community to build an Evangelical Christian Church within a few blocks of the tragic incident. What would the general community reaction be? Would they embrace the idea with loving Allah arms?
Stephanie, would you be okay with any other type of religious temple build there? Christian, Catholic, Scientology, ect.??
I believe that a mosque should be built, along with other places of worship of other religions. This is not an insult to the people who died September 11 because their killers were EXTREMISTS. Something that the majority of Muslim people living in the United States are not. By saying not to build this, we are blaming a whole community. The hate some people feel towards the Muslim community reminds me of the Nazis seen during Hitler's regime. Is this what the United States is about? I am also an architectural fanatic and destroying the building would be a bit unfortunate, but people have to realize that PEACE and UNITY are more important. Most wars and genocides are because of differences. We have to all accept that we are different and that that is fine. Not all Muslims are terrorist extremists. That would be like saying that all Catholic priests are pedophiles. Building a multi-faith center would be a step in accepting each other's differences.
-Daniel, 15 Year old Coloradoan
If this Muslim community in NYC is truly interested in inter faith dialogue and communication, they would not be interested in putting a Mosque at the site where fellow Muslims in the name of Islam killed thousands of Americans. By selecting this site and not understanding that this is insensitive and insulting shows that they are not moderate and open to other views. Building a Muslim place of worship where terrorists in the name of Islam killed so called Infidels is not as voice of Islam Moderation. Extremists who see the 9-11 terrorists as Martyrs would see the Mosque a shrine, and go there to pay respects to those killers and preach more hatred. Choose another location.
As an American I believe that we have the freedom to express our religious beliefs wherever we want. And yes, the war is against terror not Islam.
However, Ground Zero has become a symbol of the atrocities that occured 9-11 and it should be respected. I do not think a mosque should be built here. It would be a disgrace to all of our fallen heroes and innocent who died that day. Our country suffered it's greatest attack there and the symbol of a mosque would make us look like a joke. Build it in another part of NY just not there.
I have to admit that when I heard a mosque might be going up near Ground Zero, I felt like someone punched me in the stomach & I physically took a step back. But my mind said, "Whoa. Slow down & think on it." I came to the conclusion that many people here label themselves Christian and if that is true then what's wrong with extending someone of another faith, openness, grace, humility & forgiveness? There are many misconceptions about Islam & Christianity. Perhaps people of this mosque could teach us all the TRUE Islam. They may understand & accept us also. I believe we should approach this mosque in peace and trust & let it proceed.. If you think you're living a spiritual life I suggest you examine resistance you feel before you honestly disagree.
Are they kidding? It is a insult to all Americans.
Why do the Muslums need to build their mosque in that spot. I question their motives if they say there is no where else they can build their mosque. What other religons are to be included ? would they accept people who practice Santa Maria? would they accept Jews? I think they need to rethink their plans. Did they think that there would be no rersistance? How foolish of them
This is awful! There should not be a Mosque anywhere near this are, it is an insult and very disrespectful!
I read all the comments objecting to the mosque. Its funny, one of the reasons for the 9-11 attacks was the presence of American troops on Muslim lands. They have complained for years about us being in the middle east and we as Americans ignored them. We proceded to go where we wanted and do what we wanted. Now they suggest building a mosque on ground we consider sacred and whaaa, whaaa, whaaa; they are "disrepecting" and "provoking" us. "We the People" make me sick. Grow up. I thought this was the land of the Free. But as always, its only free if you look, think and believe like me.
I think there should be a mosque and a temple and a church built on ground zero. Celebrating and teaching all who visit the site to love one another.
There can be no religion of them or us. All of us are US.
I support making the 154 year old building a protected landmark. It would be an insult to all the families of the murdered on 9/11 and serve as another terrorist attack and victory on American soil if it were torn down and a mosque built. I am sorry something this small would cause Mr. Gathwari to be ashamed to be an American. I am proud to be an American, and am willing to fight to protect all our freedoms including speach and religion even for those who don't agree with me. This is not and should not be made into a civil rights issue.
WE Americans need to act quickly if we don't want a Muslim in the White House within the next several years. We need to change the Constitution because we are coming very close to a total rebellion by the American People and it would be justified. We look like fools to the entire world. We're letting terrorist take over America and we Americans stand by and just watch. They not only killed alot of people on 9/11, now the want to put a Mosque on top of their graves. Is there anyone out there who would be brave enough to build a Church or Synagogue in Iran? You would be killed before you got started. Wake up America! We are losing our country and doing nothing about it!
it would be a terrible injustice to build a mosque near groung zero. something positive should come from such a horrible event. i'm betting this will meet with overwhelming objection & will never happen. on the other hand, i am all for saving & preserving historic buildings. they enrich our heritage
Regardless of the words being used by the proponents for building this mega-mosque on ground zero, there is a faction of Muslims who continue to spit in the face of America. It is ludicrous to think that this building will help gel relations between Islam and us, rather it will be a wedge solidly placed between America and Islam. We as a people of this proud land must insist that no mosque be built anywhere near ground zero and instead we must build a memorial to all of the people of all religions who suffered at the hands of Islamic terrorists; forever reminding us that we must be vigilant in protecting our people, our country and our homes.
It is too bad we cannot get rid of all religious insanity in America. If people didn't worship invisible men, 9/11 would have never happened.
They will build. Insensitive, Yes. Not just to those who live in NY but throughout the entire country. Speak where you will be heard. Your pocketbook. Commit to not spending a dime in New York should a mosque be built. I know that would be hard for those who live there, but you can make a difference by shopping in another borough. Do not let a small sacrifice of being inconvenienced over shadow the huge sacrifice all Americans made on that day. The shedding of innocent blood.
This is an unthinkable outrage. Further, it is to be called the Cordoba Mosque. The Great Mosque of Cordoba was the religious center of the Muslim conquest of Spain from AD 784 to AD 1236. Those who would fund this travesty are well aware of how profound an insult this is.
Wake up America, the enemy is at the gates.
OK, so not all Muslims are terrorists. But any American who loves his county and respects the sacrifice that our soldiers, firemen and police and their families have made should be dismayed that this blatant attempt to proclaim a terrorist victory over the United States. This is an incredibly unthinkable idea.
What about the daily life and the bitter memories in Iraq and Afghanistan where US Christians have devestated the countries, have set-up puppet governments and are building big embassies and bases?
Listen, the radicals of Islam today have become the face of the religion as a whole. This is not only painting a poor picture of Islam, it is an intentional attack on all Muslims, in America and abroad. There are radicals among all the worlds faiths. However, they do not speak for the collective whole. As a non-Muslim who has not only minored in Islamic studies and been to multiple Mosque time and time again, I have seen first hand the isolation Muslims in America have faced since the attacks of 9-11. There are Muslims who have been in this country for generations and are as American as anyone else. They are slowly being portrayed as monsters and are being made into second class citizens. The construction of this Mosque will bridge religious and cultural gaps, speak volumes for Americas tolerance and freedom of religion and embrace the fastest growing faith in our nation. Let us be accommodating.
"...Muslim community leaders say the mosque could provide an opportunity for improving interfaith relations. " Not if you try try to ram it down our throats. Those of us who still try to separate the average Muslims from the radical fringe see this as an endorsement of the events of 9/11. Why not try to dig up a veterans' cemetary to build a moque? Perhaps you'd like to build it on Ellis Island?
""I'm ashamed to be an American today," said Rakif Gathwari, a Muslim-American" Well, frankly, I'm not really happy about it, either. If you are so insensitive that you'd disturb what we consider sacred ground to build a symbol of the aggression of 9/11, you're cordially invited to find somewhere else to worship.
There are lots of places to build a mosque. There is only one Ground Zero. Ground Zero was there first.
There should not be an issue here, legally and rightfully, they have the ability to build a mosque there. This is plain religious intolerance on the part of these protestors. The founding fathers wrote the constitution with a strong emphasis on religious tolerance and freedom and any American who says otherwise don't know why they are an American. Not all Americans are Christian so in no way can we call ourselves a Christian Nation. We can't give and take religious freedom to suit our needs.
If the terrorists had been Christian zealots 9 years ago, would building a Christian Church there be an issue? Taking in to account that most Americans are Christian, probably not. If they were Jewish or any other religion, would we act the same way? People too often confuse the terrorists with Islam. These are people who abuse Islam to produce extremist zealots, just like there are some people who abuse Christianity to produce extremist zealots. There's no logical, reasonable answer as to why they can't build a Mosque there.
And if they can't build a Mosque two blocks away from the 9-11 attacks, how far away is ok? 3 blocks? 10 Miles? 100 Miles? There would not be a rational answer to this question and the whole premise is ridiculous. Let the American Muslims build their Mosque, they're not the ones that attacked us because they are apart of us. If we keep up the front of intolerance of one's religion, we lose a big part of what America was created to be.
Granted, emotions run deep about the 9-11 attacks, and very well that they should. But if we let our emotions control our actions, America would lose its heart. Remember to put the blame on those responsible, not on everyone else that has a vague and generalized commonality with them. We don't convict a criminal's family for the criminal's actions nor should we associate that criminal's entire religion with the crime.
I think that they should not be allowed to build a mosque, there. It is, at least, disturbing. On a more light-hearted whim, I think that Americans should buy the building and build a solar-powered, indoor farm, gym, pool, arcade(games)/leisurely facility of no religious affiliation.
Ground Zero is already holy ground. It was consecrated with the blood of innocents. There should be no other structure of reverence in that place but a memorial to those slain. Building a mosque, a church, a temple, or any other structure of worship will only distract from or deny the treachery that humans are capable of. Honor the dead and mark the grave to remember them. Practice your faith elsewhere.
An Islamic mosque should not be built at or near Ground Zero. To honor the innocent civilians who were slaughtered on September 11th a multi-denomination worship center should be available for any faith to pray for the firefighters, policemen and civilians who lost their lives on 9/11. They should be remembered in a manner that our founding fathers would be proud of – religious tolerance – freedom – liberty for all.
The Mosque needs to be built somewhere else. Pure and simple. To build that Mosque where 9/11 took place is a slap in the face of anyone who parrished in that attack, no matter what religion the victims were. It was people of Muslim religion that flew the planes into the twin towers and murdered innocent people. Don't be blinded by ignorance and look at the facts. What happened will never be forgotten and will never be forgiven. Take your building anywhere else in the city but stay away from the scene of the crime.
How dare Americans call other Americans of a different religion "Islamicphobe" (which is a made-up word) that has the same classification as one being a schizophrenic or one being with a psychological disorder, 'in fear of'. American Muslims are making me crazy, proclaiming this is not anti-American in all common understanding of symbolic freedom i.e. burning of the American flag. Further, to be call 'scared of Islam' is wrong in your guessing. I will tell you the only thing I'm scared of is Lord and not Islam. Luke 10:34-35 "Then Peter began to speak: 'I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.'" Therefore, Muslims in America should realize that they are only doing wrong to themselves, unjustly.
Muslims, so called Muslims, posers and such. You can build it, just not around there. If you want to be a part of a community (as you say) think about it.
"Most Muslims are Peaceful" yea? well "Most Christians are peaceful too" But I don't think Christians have gone out and flown planes into buildings in a Muslim country attacking the people based upon there religion. Does the Koran preach you must kill people who do not except it? Wow! that's peaceful.
Oh and by the way, weren't the people behind the attacks the very same people we have helped in the past (Muslim), and are fighting and dying for right now?
How about these Muslims go fight with the Americans against the radicals they say are bad to their religion. Go give your life to fight for Freedom and for a place in America. Don't you think it would be easier that way instead just coming in and building a place like that where we were attacked by Muslims?
And all you bleeding hearts, KMA
I understand the extreme Muslim fanatics have sullied the faith, and that good Muslim Americans think of the mosque as a sign of peace and interfaith.
However, I think the wound is too deep in the American hearts and minds to allow any sort of tolerance or understanding. I am afraid, if they do go ahead with the building, that it will be a target of vandalism, bomb threats and protest. I don't know how that would serve any useful purpose.
Ask Muslims if they allow us Christians to build a Catholic Church in the vicinity of MECCA or any other church ? if the answer is yes then they can go ahead and build their mosque at ground zero, however, I know the answer is going to be no therefore the answer from us is simply no you may not build a mosque there.
I think building a mosque to build interfaith relations is a great idea! But go build it on another ground zero.
Tolerance has nothing to do with it. Believe it or not we are at war with radicals from this religion. To allow this mosque to be built would be a slap in the face of all those lost and their families. If pushed hard enough we have proved as a nation we will push back harder, and I would hate to see Americans take action on their homeland out of rage of this desecration like the radical terrorist we are fighting.
Musilms are not at all peacefull and tolerant. For instance, try building a church in Middle East with the priest/reverand shouting every early morning thru the megaphone- "Jesus is great, the one and only". Imagine what have happened if something like that ocuured.
Those muslim groups could have been more tolerant and build the mosque at any other location, but they just want to intentionally stick their religious symbol at the cemetery of thousands people killed by muslims. They have tried to do a similar thing in other countries , but were not allowed to.
I cannot imagine the smurk all those terorists will have on their faces once they see the mosque raising up on the place which they cleared a few years back. Stupid americans.
As a citizen of the United States for the totality of my nineteen years, I was taught in school that our nation is a melting pot, rich in diversity. Unfortunately, many fellow Americans ought to be reminded, particularly those who believe the construction of any mosque, regardless of its location, to be an act of terrorism. However, any place of worship, be it synagogue, mosque, church- need not interfere with an irreligious, monumental area of rememberance in which lives were lost. For indeed, we are a melting pot, and a variety of innocent people fell victim to the horrendous 9-11 attacks. This is not an appropriate place to designate worship merely because many affected by the attack are offended by its distraction; it is not an appropriate place to designate worship as such an environment is inconducive to the peacefulness that religion seeks to promote. It is a shame that such a conflict exists in the present day, perhaps we all need to take a step back and a deep breath and think about just how far we have NOT come.
Should Catholics build a cathedral at the site of one of the Crusaders' massacres of Muslims, to show what Christianity is truly about? Would that be well-received by Muslims?
A productive gesture for Muslims would be to build a memorial to the victims at the site; perhaps even a replica of the twin towers. That would say, "We love you, America, and what happened here was wrong." This gesture says something else.
To those arguing that Muslims died in the 9-11 attacks:
Yes, Muslims died. And extremist Muslims kill Muslims of other sects every day because they are not following the "right" brand of Islam.
It is disrespectful and tasteless because Islam is responsible for the 9-11 attacks. Of course not all Muslims are terrorists, but read the Quran. If you do, it should be obvious why there are Islamic extremists and why they do what they do. It is not all about politics, the motivation to commit such acts is right there in those pages for anyone to read.
Building a mosque on that site isn't a matter of religious freedom. They can build a mosque anywhere, choosing that specific site reeks of deliberation and agendas to be pushed. It's like saying, see, not only did we take your buildings down, we're putting our own up right in place (oh, sorry, it isn't EXACTLY at ground zero, but a building nearby. One close enough to have had debris from the disaster smash into it. That makes it all okay). And Islam has a long history of doing just this sort of thing to conquered sites.
Do we really even have to have a discussion on this? No Mosque should be built next to the location where many people died as a result of Muslim issues.
The building should be a memorial promoting America, with the largest American flag flown that could be seen from miles like the Statue of Liberty.
No.Absolutely no. If the Muslim community is truly interested in peace and promoting goodwill, they'd participate in honoring our dead & withdraw their pursuit of building a mosque on or even in close proximity to ground zero. The fact that they can't and won't speaks volumes to their true motives - I'm not fooled. This is a slap in the face to all who lost loved ones on 9/11 and is a slap in the face to every soldier fighting to keep Americans free today.
Seriously, you people live in a diluted world of your own. How in the world is building a mosque disrespectful?? It's only disrespectful to you because you are bigots. Those people didn't personally bomb the towers, nor did they ever do a single thing to you or your families.
Many people have said over and over that all sorts of people died on 9/11, including Muslims. It wasn't just fair skinned Americans who studied Catholicism, folks.
If it's disrespectful for a Muslim to build a mosque near 9/11, then it's also disrespectful for a catholic to build a church.
You people really are insane. There is nothing insensitive about rebuilding a mosque that was already there. You all say it's insensitive, then spout of racial and religious diatribe that is even more insensitive.
Grow up and stop being so racist. By your same arguments, all churches should be abolished because of the choice of a few priests to molest boys, all Americans should be kicked out of their homes for forcing Japanese Americans out of their homes during ww2.
Seriously, folks, stop and just think for a minute and then you'll realize how foolish you really sound. What makes this all so much worse is that you are doing it in the name of defending freedom or defending the victims memories or some other outright lie. You're all against the mosque for one reasons; racism. Grow up
Let's look at history. Muslims built a Mosque in Jerusalem after they ran off the Crusaders, then conquered Spain and built a Mosque. I am sure there are many good Muslims in the world, but this is a bit much.
It is incredibly disrespectful to even consider this.
It's disgusting, really. The men who attacked the USA were bad no matter what faith they practiced. But the fact that the attacks were done in the name of the Muslim faith makes erecting a Mosque in that area incredibly insensitive.
I have to believe there are even Muslims that believe this to be a horrible idea.
As an American, I believe all religions should be able to practice unfettered, but a Mosque at Ground Zero might be to Muslim Extremists what the flag raising at Iwo Jima was to the US Marines during WW 2. I have always thought ground zero should be turned into a National Memorial Park, solemn just like Arlington National Cemetery, no buildings, just a quiet place to remember the victims and their families forever.
A lot of people think that the mosque would be built RIGHT ON ground zero, but it is actually 2 blocks away.
As you already may have read, there are a lot of people against the building of a Mosque so close to ground zero. If a Mosque were built, I believe that a lot of Americans may seek retaliation continuing the cycle of hate.
Although I understand that a few radicals should not represent an entire group of people, this is about paying our respects to those who died in the 911 attack.
Out of the respect for those family members of victims of 9-11 more time to heal and don't create more conflict. This is obviously still a sensitive subject, and consideration of a Mosque in the vicinity of ground zero should be re-thought, and built somewhere else. You can't force those who were affected by this tragedy to be forced into acceptance.
From reading some of these postings, it seems that people are unaware that there are already several mosques in New York, and they have not aroused hostility. It is this particular site that is the problem.
Years ago, the Catholic Church proposed building a convent at the site of one of the concentration camps in Germany. It was met by a huge outcry from the Jewish community and the proposal was withdrawn. (The work of the order of nuns was to pray to atone for sin, so, from a Catholic perspective, this was an appropriate place, however, they responded to Jewish sensitivities and cancelled the plan.)
I think the Muslim community should do the same and build elsewhere. This would show their empathy for those who lost loved ones on 9/11, and their sensitivity to the devastating impact 9/11 had on our country and New York in particular. This would certainly do more to improve the image of Muslims here than building the mosque near Ground Zero.
Who are they gonna build the mosque for, when their god is invisible ?
If they build a mosque, then there should be a religious structure for every person belonging to a faith , who died on 9/11. Such controversies puts Islam in bad light than good.
I dont believe a mosque should be built on such sacred land....Why cant those families mourn the horrific loss of their loved ones without distractions such as this. Building a mosque that close will only be a reminder of what happend. We have over and over again let these people into this country to again and again be subjected to some sort of terrorist plot or action....DONT BUILD IT.....
To all of you who are against building the mosque, should christians be allowed to have churches in Israel?
It is interesting to see some of the contributors here comparing the building the of the mosque to building churches or synagogues in middle-eastern countries. Have the American people really lost their principles and sense of achievement in that they are comparing my country (the US) with developing countries? Have we really dropped so low with our morals & integrity? The greatness of US has been in its belief in the principles of TOLERANCE and FREEDOM, although we are not perfect. As for the mosque, the proponents should consider making it an inter-cultural centre so that all faiths can come together and promote each other.
Pathetic. I know I will tick off the Muslim world, but the truth hurts.
As the saying goes: Not all Muslims are terrorists; however, all terrorists are Muslim. You cannot deny that fact.
As far as the Quran goes. It was written 600 years AD. No wonder. He could pick and choose what he wanted in his "holy" book.
The bible was started hundreds of years BC.
anywhere but there
As a Canadian I am shocked that more people do not speak out against this travesty. The people of New York and the U.S. are becoming Canadianized...Too bad..so sad..living in a brain dead city of T.O., and I'm not speaking of the one that all the tourists see when they do the film festival thing....is what New Yorkers can look forward to soon.. Bending over backwards to appease the backward beliefs of Islamic culture and trying to say they are equal to those that built America, that will be the downfall...
A few months back I finally visited ground zero, and of course cried. Now I just feel outraged once again by these barbarians.
No religous structure, of any faith, should be constructed near the site of this disaster. Everyone associated with and affected by the 9/11 disaster already has a preferred place of worship.
This is truly insulting to the people who died in 9/11. Just the thought of building a mosque at that place is sickening. Why not build it anywhere else in New York?
What is more sickening is that the money to build this mosque is coming from Islamic extremist nations where non muslims (Christians, Hindus, Jews) are persecuted and are not allowed to build their places of worship.
I had nothing against Muslims even after 9/11 or the Mumbai attacks but this thought of building a mosque just shows how low and filthy they are.
Muslims are already showing their true colors, they have no intention of respecting the wishes of the citizens of their host Nation by not moving ahead but instead they (from what I have read) intend to attempt to continue regardless showing their disdain for the opinions of New Yorkers.
Let the Muslims understand that we have spoken that the answer is no. Muslims do not allow churches to be built in Muslims Nations yet we the foolish allow them to build. Once they build they don’t intend to leave does the foolish Americans realize that. What you are doing to giving ground to the Muslim and where is the 100 Million coming from and why? Why don’t they give that to the victims of their religion? Instead they want to hold ground and next they will tell you can’t sell pork down the block its insulting to them. They will take ground and you will move foolish American.
What has happened to freedom of religion? Today mosques are associated with terrorist cells and now Americans have a new phobia that didn't exist before 9-11.
As the father of one of the victims of the South Tower, to even think of building a muslim mosque is totally unbelieveable! This is sacred ground, ground upon which many of us lost our children, husbands, wives, relatives, or good friends. If the muslims wish to build a mosque, have them select a different area of the city. To go forward with this building, at this location, would be like rubbing our nose in the murder that was committed by the muslim terrorists. This would be like a tribute to the mass murder that was committed on this site.
I am outrage by people who are against the building of the mosque. It is not at Ground Zero where the Trade Center stood but several blocks away on a street that does not face Ground zero. By the comments I can tell most of the people here probably never lived or visited NYC or maybe you did and took pictures of Ground Zero.
This country was founded on the principal of religious freedom. Many people of various religions have come to the US so that they can worship freely and without being taken away in the middle night. Equating the muslims who attacked the US to the muslims who pray peacefully at mosques is like equating christians who bomb abortion clinics to all christians and by the way, I am Roman Catholic.
To those of us who claim to be Christians, more people have been killed in the name of Jesus Christ than all the world wars combined. There are churches on reservations where Native americans were killed by Americans settling in the west.
People who are against this mosque should really think about what makes America great.
Islam in this day and age is not religion like any other religion, but militant terrorist totalitarian anti-western, anti-freedom, anti-human rights, anti-secular, xenophobic movement.
All talk about religious tolerance and multiculturalism is out of place here.
Some say, “All those jihadists do not represent mainstream Islam”, but I do not see much outrage from “Islamic street” against jihadists, I do not hear calls from “mainstream Moslem” for multiculturalism and religious tolerance in Saudi Arabia or Iran, rather they want to teach us that Islam is a ”religion of peace” and how beneficial is Sharia law.
Of course there is no simple answer. The idea of building a Muslim mosque near Ground Zero understandably evokes a great deal of powerful emotion in people, including myself. However I think it is important that we take a step back & think about a few things. We would not be allowing terrorists to build a shrine to themselves – we would be allowing a people of faith to have a place to build community, educate the community, and worship. And if this is too close, then how far away is okay? 3 blocks? 5 blocks? 10 blocks? If we deny this group to build a mosque simply because extremeists of the same faith commited horrible acts, then we are not staying true to the ideals that built America and that united America so wholly in the days after 9/11 (freedom of speech, religion, assembly, etc.). If a Christian individual commited such an atrocious crime, I hardly think that there would be similar opposition to a church being built close to the site, because unlike Islam most people are familiar with Christianity. That being said, perhaps the opposition is less about the fact that the terrorists were Muslim, and more about the fact that 9/11 was committed in the name of Islam (however misguided). Ultimately, both sides need to be more understanding. The opponents should make far more of an effort to understand the true intentions of the mosque, and of Islam in general, but perhaps the group wishing to build the mosque could be more sensitive to the deep wound left on 9/11.
There are two issues at hand here. One is an issue of Planning and the constitutionality of designating this site a historic landmark. Though the city has the right to protect this site it must prove that designating it a landmark protects a legitimate government interest and that such a decision stems from the desire to protect that interest and does not stem from bigotry. The second issue is one of faith. As a Christian I think it would be a great opportunity to share my faith with the Muslim community. Christian organizations spend thousands of dollars to reach Muslim communities half a world away, here's an opportunity to learn from Muslims and share the gospel.
I say no Mosque only because the memory is too close in peoples minds. Also no matter what anyone says a Mosque built in the area of the 9/11 attacks would be seen as a propaganda victory by extremists. And why is this so important to Muslim groups to build? Furthermore who is to say that terrorist sympathizers would not go there to worship and gloat? That is disrespectful to all those who died should it occur.
So if the Muslims can build a Mosque near Ground Zero, does that mean Christians or Jews can build a place of worship near the place where Muhammad's "foot print" is held?
I find it hard to believe that people of muslim faith cannot understand that there is a sensitivity issue involved with erecting a mosque at the WTC site. If you want to be respected as a group of people, you must first demonstrate respect and understanding to others. Muslims who died on that day deserve as much respect in remembrance as those of any other faith. However, they should respect the fact that those losses, including their own, came as a result of radical and irrational members of their faith. To build a mosque on that site would serve only to reinforce the irrational behavior of those who do not respect life.
When Iran allows a Jewish Temple to be built in downtown Tehran,,we'll consider a mosque at ground zero.
Maybe I missed it but I have yet to hear or read about the number of Muslems who were killed on 911... I expect it is a considerable number... 911 had a negative effect on people from all walks of life. I have no objection to erecting beautifully designed buildings for progressive positive peace loving people. A Mosque would be nice... next to buildings representing other faiths as well might even be nicer.. It would reflect the heart of America... We need to focus more on the positive... we can't allow people to exploit those who perrished on 911 in an effort to further promote hatred and division...
Hey, I think Dawn has a great idea. Let's Christians go build a church next to Mecca. Dawn, wonderful idea. I don't think the Muslims would mind. After all, they are a religion of "peace".
Certainly, American Muslims have a role to play in the fabric of American society. However, that role must acknowledge the damage done to our country by Muslim terrorists on 9/11/01 and at other times. How many thousands of Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Those who believe the history of Muslim terrorism in American is irrelevant are kidding themselves. Let the center be built elsewhere.
I find it hard to believe that so many Americans have such cruel hatred to a people because of a small minority. Calling this potential building a monument to terrorism is an incredibly idiotic statement. Just because one small fanatical group was able to carry out their awful plans, does not mean that they speak for the entire Muslim community. Most of you forget that there were many innocent Muslim Americans that died in those towers that day as well. We should embrace the fact that we are being given a chance to get to know each other through their outreach of interfaith appreciation.
How about since America is historically a great land of diversity and opportunity that we give this a chance? I am Christian and actually hope to see this plan in action. It would be a shame to tear down such a historical building, but I believe that if anyone else wanted to tear it down and rebuild, there would be far fewer complaints. Honestly, it sounds like an excuse to make those who would build this mosque move somewhere else. True followers of Islam are quite peaceful, it is the extremists which create such a bad image. Christians were not so different once. With all the violence and terror committed by Americans in our own country, a little more religion could certainly help.
US is not Europe, they should be much more tolerant with no discrimination
Yes – this is America and people are free to practice whatever religion they choose. Yes – people of all religions, including Muslims, died in the 9/11 attacks. The group wanting to build the mosque at Ground Zero say part of their goal is improving relations between Muslims and non-Muslims. That is an honorable goal, but it can only be achieved if they build somewhere else. Building a mosque at Ground Zero will send Muslim/non-Muslim relations back to where they were on 9/12.
Build a mosque at Ground Zero, absolutely not. We need to honor those Americans killed at the site. This is no place to build a church, mosque or anyhing else. Leave the 150 year old building and use it as a Learning Center.
This is so insensitive that it defies logic. Also, where is common sense? Do the mosque planners not think that this building will be safe? No, it will be the biggest target in NYC.
People need to really raise their voices to the NYC planning commission regarding this.
I will try not to repeat the same comments as everyone else. We are all repeating ourselves here.
Yes, practice tolerance.
No, it's a slap in the face to the US.
Muslims didn't attack us, terrorists did.
And so on...
But the real point here is that, whether or not is actually is a religious issue, it has become a religious issue. So take a step back and let's look at ourselves, all of us.
Every religion represented in this commentary is in some way pointing it's finger at the other in some negative fashion to some degree.
If all of us non-extremists truly want the same thing, the love of the people around us and the respect of those same people, why would we not encourage the building of a multi-cultural, multi-religious foundation as opposed to one that suits one particular religious orientation.
We have a United Nations, why do we not have a United Religious Nations?
We need to preserve our American history and that is not a place for a mosque. How dare the person that said he is ashamed to be an American. By his sentence alone tells me his lack of appreciation for the very freedom to say his statement.
I agree with those who remind us that people from many faiths and backgrounds died on 9/11. American Muslims and those of other faiths have an opportunity here. Divisive "us vs. them" approaches will not help anyone anywhere. Let's not confuse Islamist fundamentalism with the more modern Muslim worldview that is emerging in North America and elsewhere. Let's support it so we can all find peace.
As an American and a patriot, I support the right of the Muslim groups to build a mosque at the site. One of the founding principles of our nation is religious tolerance, and we should not allow the actions of a handful of radical extremists to affect our principles. If we follow the arguments of those who oppose this center, then Christianity–as practiced by the Crusaders and Nazis–and Catholicism–as practiced by the Spanish Inquisitors and sexually abusive priests–are also religions that promulgate terrorism. To those who believe that this Muslim radicals are attempting to desecrate Ground Zero with this mosque, my advice would be, "Well, then, ignore it! Otherwise, aren't you just playing into their hands?"
On 911, the towers went down, the pentagon was bombed and thousands of innocent people were killed by Islamic Terrorists. Building an Islamic Mosque on that site is an insult to everyone who died there and the families of these people, including Muslims who died. Until Islam takes care of these people and the problems they are causing in the name of Islam, they are not entitled to tell us how peaceful they are. Secondly, the koran is anything but peaceful. Read the entire book and the haddiths then tell me how peaceful this religion is. Any Muslim that tries to tell you Islam is peaceful is either ignorant of their own writings or lying to your face.
One consistent comment is that this building a mosque is somehow insulting to the victims of 9/11. That logic would suggest that the religion of anyone who commits a crime should be identified and their religion should not be allowed to construct a place of worship near the site of the crime. Should we prohibit Catholic churches from building next to anywhere children are? Should churches be removed from Israel, since the Crusades were so brutal against non-Christians? Should Churches be removed from Spain since Christians committed so many acts of terrorism in expelling Jews and Muslims?
I am a Canadian, and as you are aware, we, your neighbours to the north, are more laid back and not quite as radical as the average American. However, I would like to express my opinion on the building of the mega mosque at ground zero. Although I can understand the reasoning behind the Islamic movement to create an interfaith memorial, I do not agree that it should be a mosque. Many Moslems believe in peace and harmony, however, the actions of their fellows in faith would just be too difficult for the average American or Canadian to swallow. The mosque could be construed as a symbol of victory for the radicals, not as an attempt to promote tolerance of Islamic views. I support any American who is opposed to this venture. Anita Rushton. Nova Scotia, Canada
To build a 13-story mega mosque near ground zero, it is a massage from Muslims saying (We are here, we build our Islamic center and mega mosque on the same place of W.T.C., on the site of the largest attack in American history happened by us.), it such a slap on face of every American.
Nobody asks how much this building coast and who are behind supporting this fund and what type of money they use to build this 13-story.
Wake up America before time be over.
Another thought about building the mosque so close to Ground Zero – imagine those who lost loved ones having to listen to the Islamic call to prayer while they are grieving at the site. I really question the motives of those who insist on building a mosque there – I don't understand why they would want to inflict more suffering on those who have suffered so much already, especially when they can easily find someplace else to build.
Simple Opinion: No
More people are killed by Islamists each year than the 350 years of the Spanish inquisition combined. Throughout history they build monuments where they have conquered. I suggest you all look up Pat Condell's "no mosque at ground zero" on youtube and form an opinion from there. 1300 orphans were created because of 9/11. It was not just those who died, we have all been affected and hurt. My family fought in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII..for what? For a nation of spineless pushovers? If Christians were to bomb the Grand Mosque (the most holy mosque) in Mecca and build a towering Cathedral, granted a few blocks away, but completely shadowing and overlooking the area-a permanent and constant grim reminder of the hate and hurt and disrespect-would that be ok?
I can't believe we are even talking about this, never the less considering it. God forgive use if we do. Maybe we should build a church, to honor all the christians that have died at the hands of this so called peaceful religion. Oh I forgot that might offend them...
Yes not all Muslims are extremists; however, by building this mosque we are saying to the extremists, "America forgives you and we open our arms to you. See, you are welcome to worship here; we will bend over backwards to show you our Christian kindness, the American Way." The extremists see this as America saying, "We are week. You win. We will even build you a place of worship to appease you." We, Americans, do not think the same as the extremists. I am sorry for the sake of the American Muslims who are NOT extremists. Rebuiding the Twin Towers or Trio Towers with a memorial to our murdered fellow Americans, this would show our strength. Remove the stain, just as communities remove or paint over graffiti. The terrorists are unruly, undisciplined children. We need to fix what they vandalized and show them who's in charge!
"When Iran allows a Jewish Temple to be built in downtown Tehran,,we'll consider a mosque at ground zero."
Iran is a theocracy, we are not. What better way to show that our way is better?
Did you ever stop to think the Americans of Arab, Pakastani and Iranian descent may have come here because they prefer our way? Let them worship freely.
cancel it. Don't build it. It's not worth the hassle. Even if it's built. It wouldn't be a real Masajid. Because that's not a residential area. One should build a Masajid where there is a great need. And there are many communities in much need of them. The advocates of this Masajid are reality tv type publicity seekers.
"Whoever builds a Masajid, desiring thereby Allah's pleasure, Allah builds for him the like of it in paradise." (Bhukhari:vol 8,chapter 65) . With this Masajid all I see is world pleasures, publicity, controversy, and waste of money (13 floors). Therefore Allah's Pleasure is not in the equation. May be they should examine themselves and build 13 Masajid's for the needy communities all across America.
The area around Ground Zero is predominately commercial. There is no local muslim residential enclave nearby.
The mosque should be located where large numbers of people do not have to travel far and the land is cheaper. If these are not the primary considerations, then there is validity to the concerns of residents, workers, and people visiting the memorial.
The voters in this area should be represented within the bounds of our Democracy.
No Muslem mosque should be built at or near Ground Zero. Since all the terrorists were radical Islamists and their act of terrorism was a jihad against America then building a mosque even near this hallowed ground would represent a monument to their infamy.
We need to quit being so politicaly correct. They have no tolerance for anyone else, so why should they be allowed a mosque that is nothing more then an in your face statement to americans. How would they act if we built a strip bar that served BBQ at Mecca?
This mosque would show utter disrespect to 911 victims and it would further hurt the image of Islam around the globe. There is no reason not to build it somewhere else.
I am not a Muslim, but you guys need to understand that there are many Muslim nations that DO have a lot of churches, synagogues, etc.
For example, in Turkey I was able to go to church in broad daylight in the middle of the city without even thinking about it.. This is not unusual. (I can't defend Saudi Arabia, etc.).
Among the many Muslims I know, I have yet to encounter one who is not appalled by what happened on 9/11. Many spoke out against what happened - of course CNN, Fox News, et al. does not cover such things. The rest are busy living their lives...
The people of New York need to make their own decision about zoning - but some of the comments here are ignorant and counterproductive. The Islamic extremists _want_ and _need_ their followers to believe that all Christians hate them. Demonstrating otherwise would be heaping coals on their head...
Christians need to do a better job of communicating (and understanding) that disagreeing with someone's views is NOT the same as hating them...
I support the building of the mosque, and strongly think that the Christian and Jewish (my religion) communities in the city should step forward and bulid/move a synagogue and church next door.
I applaud the imam of the community. It is absolutely appropriate to build an interfaith center there. Only with all religions represented on the spot in their own right, in addition to the interfaith center, can anyone truly feel the building plans are an expression of peace rather than hegemony.
Again, the Jewish and Christian communities should step forward and build adjacent to the mosque. It is impractical, to say the least, to ask the Muslim community to build another religion's buildings of worship.
I don't think that the argument to build the mosque there is strong enough, I don't support it. There should be respect for the dead there. It should be inclusive of all walks of life that died there and it should reflect the love of those who lost loved ones.
Is it true it is being called "Center of Cordoba"?
That destroys any feeling of benefit of doubt, with what I just wrote. That is simply outrageous.
The symbolism is really not all that subtle. Building a mosque at the site of the twin towers would be an unmistakable sign to every muslim in the world signaling the victory of Islam over the West...The distruction of a great symbol of the west and the rising of the symbol of Islam in it's place. Actually not a new concept, and done by other civillizations over history. The most pertinent here would be the building of the Dome of the Rock Mosque in Jerusalem, over the destroyed site of Solomon's temple.
While every bone in my body says a mosque in that location would be wrong,its a free country!We have freedom of religion here,something few if any muslim countries can claim.I would like so called moderate Islam to be a little louder in their condemnation of suicide bombers!I lost two friends in the 93 WTC bombing and many more on 911.If Landmarks gives the go ahead, it should be allowed.
i am an american with no ties to the muslim community, but i feel their pain. because they have radical extremist groups in their religion, the religion as a whole takes the blame. I do however find fault with their choice of location for the new mosque. This building has been her for over 150 years. it is a beautiful site inbetween all of the tall buildings, and it is a cemetery. i think it is completely unacceptable to disturb sacred grounds.
how would we feel if the place our families had chosen as our permanent resting place was dug up and a sky scraper built on top of it!
i would be heartbreaking. I think the people that want to build a Mosque on top of a cemetery need to think about that for a moment! i have seen plenty of other buildings in the city that could easily be renovated into a mosque.
The placement of a Mosque at the site of the September 11th attacks would send one message: Terrorist attacks are a great way to spread islam, and pave the way for mosques. The stupidy of americans for even considering this is practically outrageous. Obviously the education system in the U.S. is worse off then I thought.
REALLY!!!!!!! And they call themselves Americans? Have they forgotten that this country was founded because of religious persecution? There were American Muslims killed on 9/11 also. Maybe, just maybe, if we took the time to understand, and be tolerant of the differences in others, then just maybe this country would be what our forefathers dreamed it could be, when they left England because they were not allowed religious freedom! I'm afraid that instead this country has become a nation of racially driven hypocrites! They call themselves Christians, but would Jesus Christ approve?
Although I can see why so many people feel that it is insensitive to build a mosque near ground zero. We all need to understand that there were many muslims killed at ground zero on 9/11. We cannot continue to allow religion or cultural differences to be the cause of a divisive society. We are already experiencing the negative effects of this around the world. Tired of all the hatred around this world. Peace on Earth is what mankind should strive for.
It is clear the site chosen for this mosque is a subtle insult to America and to the memory of those who died in an act of murder committed by a group of Muslim terrorists invoking the name of Allah to justify their heinous crimes. This is consistant with the claims made in rhetoric from radical Islamists who often state Islam will "tower" over Christianity and other religions" forming the majority of Americans who hold various religious beliefs. It is no question this "towering mosque" is intended to be sited where it is, to serve as a symbol of this "towering" of radical Islam" over America and its' diverse people of all different cultures and religious beliefs !! It is, at best, an outrage and should not be permitted. It will do nothing to further understanding between those, (if there are any) who want to portray Islam in a different light. Rather it will stoke the fires of anger and hostility in the same manner that the Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor did, an even not unlike the September ll th sneak attacks on innocent people in the World Trade Center Toweras, including women children and Americans of every race, religion and color !!
Would someone please wake me from this nightmare. It is just a nightmare. Isn't it? People can be so insensitive. Yet, these same people are offended if our U.S. soldiers carry Bibles.
Their idea of justice is "they rule", period. Wake up America! Can't you see? It's the Trojan horse scenario.
My fellow Americans, our country is hurt and bleeds the blood of our sons and fathers every minute of every day. A mosque is a right given to those Americans who choose to whorship there. I would ask my American brothers and sisters who choose the muslim faith to choose another site and show us all what peace is all about. I would ask all Americans to pray for peace. Last I ask why would any American of any religion disgrace the honor of any single person regardless of their religion who died on that day? This does not even address the most important part. How will any Americans feel safe in this country again if this indeed becomes another muslim victory. We have told our boys how important it is that we win this war. They give us their all, we most not allow this ,for all our sakes. No matter who you are God bless you and protect our troops.
I hate to say it, but this is a terrible idea. This is similar to Muslims trying to build a mosque in India, closer to where Hindus believe God Rama was born. That sparked so much violence and life lost from both sides. Now they want to do this and irritate people over here. This will also not end any better. I agree that they should not be allowed to build here which is the consensus of majority of people.
As for people wanting to see Church, Synagogue built in Mecca as an exchange, good luck. Even an average non extremist Muslim will not accept that. It's as simple. I can equate that to Vatican. No one can build a Mosque inside there as well. So these talks make sense.
I also don't support how we fight the war on terror. We cannot follow Geneva Conventions and fight the war against terrorist in a decent manner. These are extreme times and we should take cue from IDF.
How can this be considered? I fail to understand why we continue to tip toe around a religion with such a violent past that anyone involved in it that is not fighting has to be called "moderate". Why do we have to be continously slapped in the face? Why cant we just say no? Do the polls mean nothing? Does the overwhelming majority no longer mater?
I believe it to be an insensitive display of a faith that brought such hatred and destruction to the very place that this building will stand upon. They seek to destroy another building that contains American history and construct yet another monument to the faith that killed almost 4,000. Where is the peace in that? Where is the understanding? Answer: there isn't any. The only purpose is jihad. Deny the permit.
if i didn't read this on CNN i'd think it was the plot of an islamic fantasy novel. is our entire government on drugs? how could any sane member of the city government possibly entertain such a preposterous idea? a monument to the group that destroyed 3000 innocent people, cost the city untold millions, and created a wound that will never heal? do the Armenians venerate the Turks? do the Jews venerate Hitler? the russians pulled down the statues of both stalin and lenin? i know bloomberg isn't a practicing jew – but if he lets this mosque be built his legacy will surpass bush's – for idiocy.
I think that it is a sensitive topic which can show real American forgivness and freedom. Allowing a mosque to be built at the sight of the attack is like putting achohol on a cut; it stings alot, but in the end it will help to heal us. Building this mosque is controversial but may tear down the wall between the non-muslim Americans and the muslim Americans. (then we can all just be Americans)
#1 They can build it anywhere !
#2 YOUR GRAND DAUGHTERS WILL BE WEARING BURKAS
#3 They do not tolerat other beliefs, some under penalty of DEATH.
#4 a group blew up theWTC killing thousands,yes they will kill their
#5 With enough selling out lawyers and liberals they will have us them.
#6 How many muslims fought for the freedoms that will allow them to change our culture. How many foughyt in the revolution, civil war (some state embrace some form of slavery),WW1,WW2 ( most sided with the nazis).
Bit by bit theywill subvert us (look at frances battle).And your grand sons will pray on rugs, and their sisters will be REQUIRED to hide their smile under blacksheets, as they should be ashamed to be women.
#7 Hey let them build it next to Arrlington. Those folks won't mind
islam is not a religion of peace. it is complete nazism. islam represents everything that is wrong in the world. my opinion- create muslim interment camps similar to those of the ones in WWII. ground zero only has 3 options for building: a memorial for the Americans who lost their lives to cowardly islamic terrorist, the World Trade Center Towers but one level taller, or a giant memorial showing how great America is. I sick of the stupid politically correct liberals that ruin everything about this country.
The Koran was written about 1400 years ago. It was dictated by Muhammad alone over a period of about 25 years; i.e., no one else contributed to the writings of the Koran, only the mind of Muhammad himself. On the other hand, the Bible consists of over 60 books written over a period of 1400 or more years and had been contributed to by many authors from many different ages – in essence, the bible evolved over many centuries to reflect to some degree a dynamic/changing reality, unlike the Koran which has remained static for the last 1400 years. The bible is superior to the Koran in this respect and in many others. I'm an atheist, so don't think I'm taking sides because of my religious beliefs. The Koran is regarded as containing the literal words of God (Allah) as handed down to Muhammad, so there is an implicit "no-change clause" inherent in the Koran, so there will NEVER be a toned-down version of the Koran written, ever – such a version would be considered blasphemous. Muslims kill other Muslims – this is very common occurrence arising from external Jihad in the form of sectarian violence, so it is no surprise that those Muslims who committed the carnage on 9/11 did so knowing that other Muslims (which the Muslim [terrorists] themselves do not regard as Muslims) would be killed. Muslims are growing at alarming rates worldwide relative to other religious and non-religious groups. You people need to wake up. Once a land goes Islamic, Muslims are obligated (religious duty) to keep it Islamic. We are at the precipice of major societal regression if we do not act soon (within the next century) to keep western nations as free as possible from Islamic influences.
If the muslim community can't understand how "inappropriate" a mosque at this site would be, they just prove the point that their unwillingness to stand against their own radical sect is the cause of our grief in the first place. If Christians were responsible for the 9/11 attacks, I'd understand if folks didn't want a church built on the site. Come on. Where's our common sense? This isn't that hard to figure out. Just because you "can" put a mosque there doesn't mean you "should".
Why it has to be a mosque and not a church, a pagoda or any other religion? In September 11th unfortunately there were Muslim fanatic involved and that image will not be never erase . What is more important to build a tribute to the faith that sadly was the conduit of the biggest human tragedy in the USA or honor the many whom tragically died declaring it as a memorial? Why is not a Christian church build in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Iraq to honor those who died in this tragedy? Why not take all the money the Muslim community want to invest and donate it to Haiti, African countries or Palestine? Why not to increase economic development and women rights in Muslim countries? when I see Muslim/Islamic organization donating and doing charity like other religions then and only then I will listen their voices
If a mosque is to be built there, we need to see the Muslim leaders of this mosque publicly condemn Al-Qaeda and their acts of jihad. Otherwise, if something is built close to ground zero, it should be a peaceful, interfaith center.
If they want to correct what was distroyed at ground zero, they need to rebuild the twin towers – not a Islamic center with a mosque.
If you build it, they will come....
Perhaps this time it will be an angry american behind the controls of an airplane loaded with explosives that strikes back at the "terrorists".
Really, can't a mosque be built elsewhere?
What an insult!!
Fundamentalist in any religion or political organization unfortunately only see black and white, and have no tolerance for grey.
The Muslim religion should not be penalized because of the extreme
I believe 500 Muslim families suffered the loss of their loved ones as well on 9/11
Let the temple be built to show how strong our country remains.
We can always forgive, but not forget
Building a place of religious worship wherever you please and for whatever religion you please is the most basic American right predating the Declaration of Independence and all else. If the neighbors don't like it, too bad. That"s better than having neighbors telling YOU how to worship or what else to do. Isn't it?
In my opinion a mosque built at this location would be terribly insensitive and disrespectful.
I think it's wrong to build a mosque on or near Ground Zero. Period.
Once upon a time my family line immigrated from Ireland to a "Land of Opportunity" where they could practice freedom of religion and speach. Other immigrants to this country came over fleeing outright persecution and horrors worse than my ancestors ever faced. Some of the people being discriminated against by the furor over this debate were born Americans. Others immigrated to our country.
What a nice thing we are saying to each. To those who were born Americans we are saying "You don't count as an American because of your Faith. We practice Freedom of Religion here ... except for you". To those coming here seeking opportunity, freedom or safety from persecution we are saying "We don't want you, go back Terrorist". We are hypocritial when we send this message. The majority of Americans today are descended from immigrants. I'd like to know when we changed the tablet on the Statue of Liberty because I don't remember it excluding one religion. In matter of fact it didn't mention religion at all, it simply said to send "your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." How dare we try to change that now.
I've ready many of the comments here that claim empathy for the Muslim faith and then add a "but" to give the illusion that they are not being discriminatory. It's sophistry to say you support freedom of religion but Muslims should not build a mosque (or community center in this case) because it will upset people. If we are to stay true to one of the fundamental principles of our country than regardless of who it may offend we must treat the Cordoba Initiative the same as we would any other organization trying to build a similar center.
First of all, there are efforts to construct a Community Center in which Muslim prayers will be held, not a building built just as a mosque. Other than that, the building will stand two blocks away from Ground Zero. The fear that has been developing in the U.S. over "Muslim Terrorists" breeds from downright ignorance. Frankly, just because a group of people refer to themselves as Muslims and commit acts of terrorism does not make every Muslim a terrorist as the Law of Syllogism just doesn't apply. Individuals would not refer to most Christians as pedophiles, despite the many cases regarding the issue with priests. Hopefully the building will stand to promote greater interfaith relations. After all, is this not the land of freedom? Is it not the global melting pot in which all races, faiths, etc. are equally tolerated to make America the greatest country of all? The outcome of the debate will not only mark a monumental decision in America itself, but the entire world as well.
The mosque should be allowed to build there simply because they have the right to do so. Religion is a tool that can be easily used for justification but that doesn't mean that the ones who use it peacefully should suffer.
It isn't insensitive to families who died in the World Trade Center, since Muslims died there as well. Don't blame an entire community for the acts of a few.
Comparing Arabic countries discrimination towards other religion isn't an equal comparison either. Islam is not an arab-only religion. It spans far beyond borders just as any other religion do. Arabic countries have no sense of civil equality and have no intention of changing that. As such, they have no constitutional or civil reason for being equal amongst different cultures. America however, claims to have civil equality and as such, should live up to that standard.
Lastly, it is not admitting defeat to the islamic extremist population but instead it shows the terrorists who thrive on the level of intolerance of a few americans that america is in fact a place where faiths can inter-twine. That america is a land where muslims can co-exist with other non-muslims in harmony. The most effective way to defeat terrorists is to show them that muslims are not hated in America, but that muslims are a mosaical piece in a larger frame.
I live on Liberty Street a few blocks down from the WTC site and I think this is just plain insensitive. There are other sites all over the city. Why here? It obviously is insulting to many people including me. This will only make things worse. NYC is the most accepting city in the most accepting country in the world. Don't insult us.
This issue shows the "true colors" of many Americans including Mrs. Palin. Let me illustrate by scenario if I may. The worst act of domestic terrorism prior to 9/11 was the Oklahoma City bombing. If a Christian group wanted to build a facility similar to the proposed Muslim facility near the OKC memorial, I am willing to stake several million dollars on the notion that no one, not a single person would have said "boo" about this. The problem with Mrs. Palin's position and that of her followers and other right-wing, like-minded people is that they have turned 9/11 into a religious conflict which, I'm sorry to say, it was / is not. By making it about religion, these like-minded Americans are making it about religion. The 9/11 tragedy was a political conflict or an ideological conflict. The attackers did not seek to destroy Christians, Jews, Muslims, or atheists, they wanted to strike at the heart of our political positions. Had they wanted to harm Christians they would have attacked churches. They attacked the ignorance of Americans to the problems of the people they claim to defend–the defenseless Palestinian people. If, in fact, the construction of this facility, helps educated the ignorance of our people so that we might see something as obvious as the difference between a religious war and a political one, then I'm all for it. Build on!
To build a mosque of any size within 100 miles of Ground zero would be an absoliute insensitive abomination. The terrorist think the USA is a soft nation and that we will always turn our cheek to apease and be absolutely sure that we are unbiased and fair to all! Were the terrorist that brought about 9/11 fair to all? Did they give a whit to how many inicent people they killed that day of infamy? Are they now attempting to rub our nose in it as they build a shrine to the people that want to see us all dead?
This is the ultimate insult! 9/11 is bad enough without building a mosque and walking/dancing on the souls of our "country" sacred ground. They want tolerance, and then they need to practice what they preach and stop demanding they have a right to educate America. Tell that to the family of the deceased of 9/11 and the military that has defended our country. Outrage is an understatement!
I dont care if people have a place to practice a religion of their choice. I would opose the location of this. It is like these people want to just thrrow it in peoples faces. If the developer really wants people to be understanding and learn that musiims are just normal people ...... then dont be so abbrasive and he should not try push to rub salt in a still gaping wound.
This will cause more hate, bad emotions, and resentment.
People of the Islamic faith have been building mosques in countires and on lands and territories that they have taken over for centuries. People of Islam will be encouraged to view the Mosque in NY the same way. You have to ask why they are so insistent to have one so close to the 9/11 site and open it on the anniversary of that event. Islam is intollerant of all other religions, that is why so few people of that faith have not spoken out against 9/11. Let them have their Mosque, just not near ground zero. Islam tried to build a Mosque next to the site where the olympics is going to be held in London in 2012. The people of the UK said no way and they were force to move it elsewhere. We should allow this Mosque to be built but not next to the site that they destroyed. Building this Mosque next to the 9/11 site will not help bring about peace or understanding it will have just the opposite effect! It is time for the American people to wake up and understand what is really going on here!
Ground Zero should be a memorial to all of the men and women who perished in the 911 attack, period. If certain factions of Islam wish to participate in a healing process (and they all most certainly do not), they should be encouraged to do so.
These "non-extremist" factions have not earned the right to be honored at a Ground Zero memorial site. Given the fact that Islamic extremist factions were behind the 911 attacks, placing a mosque at the site of ground zero is inappropriate and obscene. Mayor Michael Bloomberg should be ashamed of his poor judgment and lack of leadership in supporting this.
Let the healing process continue. It will take time. A non-denominational center for faith-based dialog would make much more sense for this memorial. Placing a mosque on this burial site will only serve to polarize New York City and the nation further.
We need to nurture understanding among Muslims, Jews, Christians and other religious groups. There will be many opportunities to achieve this. Ground Zero should remain a memorial to the victims and a celebration of their lives. That should be the single focus for this site.
Muslins all over the world celebrated 9/11 in the streets. Let's not let them celbraton on Ground Zero.
Look, there's no question that some of the criticism of the planned mosque is way over the top and I think that the Islamic community has every right to build a mosque wherever they like . . .
BUT, putting an Islamic Center so close to Ground Zero is surely going to open up real wounds and people need to be sensitive to these wounds. Think about it - you're putting up a building devoted to celebrating a religion that was used to justify the murder of 3,000 Americans only two blocks away. This is going to be very painful to a lot of people.
Is it asking too much to devote a small portion of the proposed 13 story space to an acknowledgment and admission of this terrible deed that was done in the name of Islam only two blocks away??? If so, then is it asking too much for the community center to be located somewhere else in Lower Manhattan?
Two simple ideas that might go a long way to addressing the pain and anger over the location of the community center.
Ground Zero is a sight of vast national importance. Any monument there should reflect the resolve of America. It should reflect our unity in the face of adversity. A mosque would only stir up anger and resentment whether it is justified or not. It would create division in the same site that brought all of America together.
I do not believe we should allow a mosque here. It will not improve muslim relations. I also do not think we need to hide behind historic preservation to stop it. Just don't allow it. Have some respect for the families that died in the attack. You can build a mosque anywhere. It will do nothing but fuel hatred.
I was just at Ground Zero last week. Most of the physical evidence has been swallowed by time, but the feeling that overcomes you as you stand in its presence, is still one of solom disbelief. It challenges one's mind to accept the fact that it really happened and it really happened right here. The site is without question as much a national landmark as Pearl Harbor or Arlington Cemetery. In the above article Rakif Gathwari said he was ashamed to be an American. That's the difference, we are never ashamed to be Americans. Do not allow that mosque to be built, we will regret it more than we know.
If this mosque is built it will be a travesty for all those people who died at this site. I can't believe the unmitigated gall of these Islamists for even asking to build on this site.
What's next - a shrine to Mohammed on the mall in Washington? Why not - we are such pansies who can't seem to say no to anybody or anything.
Outragious!!!! An insult to the people that died at ground zero!
The last time I checked, Americans enjoy a right protected under the US Constitution. That right is the Freedom of Religion. Does this right not apply to all religions?
I cannot think of a greater dishonor to these victims than to have a mosque built ANYWHERE in this country let alone near ground zero. Islam is mans greatest yoke and is counter to everything this nation stands for. This religion and its followers occupy the same moral plane as a Nazi or a Communist and should not be tolerated anymore.
If we want to show how triumphant freedom is, the best way to do it is to let this mosque be built. That sends a more powerful message to the hateful extremists than any bomb or bullet ever could. 3000 people did not die in vain. They died living in a country where we have freedom of religion and where we do not sacrifice Essential Liberty for Temporary Safety.
How many of the people who oppose this idea so vehemently consider themselves to be Christian? And how many of those are truly willing to follow Christ's command to turn the other cheek?
Although this horrible atrocity was committed in the name of Islam, that does not mean that the entire Muslim world committed the crime. By the same token, not all Catholic Priests (or Christians, for that matter) committed the horrible incidents of sexual abuse that continue to surface. Imagine the feeling that comes up when someone who is abused sees a church. Yet how many would oppose the building of a church near someone who might be offended?
whether it is right or wrong to build the mosque there, it is too soon to be thinking about it, especially with the continued terrorist activity in the u.s. by supposedly islamic groups or individuals.
i would asked these people to build somewhere else for now. it would most likely be cheaper anyway.
do you not realize that by insisting on building there, you are executing a kind of psychological terroism again on the people of new york.
let time do its job of healing for a little longer.
If there should be any place for worship there then it should be interfaith, something like, Bahai temple. Here people of all faith can come and pray and understand that religion is after all praying in one's own way to ONE God.
Putting a mosque there, will definitely be a bad idea and will remind everyone when they visit ground zero, of few insensitive people of muslim religion. People want to remember their loved ones when they go there and not the terrorists who commited this act. To make a mosque there will be continued emotional torture to people who have lost their loved ones there.
It is NEAR Ground Zero, not on it! Should we not allow Catholic Churches near schools? How about no German churches near a Jewish Cemetery? To deny any group the right to build NEAR G.Z. is giving in to a knee jerk reaction. Ultimately, you may not like it, but they have the right to do it. That's what makes America better than other Countries, FREEDOM from the tyranny of other's beliefs and prejudices.
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