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April 23rd, 2009
10:03 AM ET

American Beauties?

Before our morning meetings, we solicit your story ideas via Twitter. This AM, one of our new friends (@AdvanceDegree) suggested we talk about the relevancy of beauty pageants.

So we figured we'd put it out there.
What do you guys think? Leave your comments below!

((PS: our Twitter name is KyraCNN - drop us a tweet!))

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soundoff (54 Responses)
  1. Greg & Matt in Houston

    Kyra this is off topic but related. There is a forgotten minority in the war of words regarding beauty pageants, gay marriage and gay rights. They are our children. It has been estimated that 33-40% of Gay households are raising children. They are the forgotten ones in this battle and their rights are severely impacted relegating them to 2nd class citizenship from birth or adoption. A lot of people don't realize that there are 1,100+ federal rights and privileges afforded to heterosexual couples and their families that are not extended to Gay couples and their children.

    Watching you I have realized how important your family is to you. How would you feel if that adorable little nephews future was put in jeopardy because your sibling was killed in an accident and their spouse had no rights to protect the child, no social security for the child, maybe even lose complete custody of the child they have raised? My kids mean more than anything in the world to me, why should christians get to relegate them to second-class citizens based upon their religion? Not only are we being relegated to a status with fewer rights than other Americans....our children are too! Why isn't that aspect being covered by CNN? I see enough stories villifying Gay Americans, how about some support???

    April 23, 2009 at 11:09 am |
  2. Aaron

    I was just wondering why nobody actually knows the name of the winner (Miss USA). Seems like the runner up is getting all of the attention. Why would they ask a question that is so controversial anyway? You know that is something people have a strong opinion about. Why not just ask "What would you do to make the world a better place?" I think that her answer was (other than being unintelligible) an accurate answer considering her personal opinion. Although she could have played it safe.
    Anyway, this is CNN and I think that yesterday you were playing too much of the pageant and too much of the Craigslist killer, this stuff doesn't even matter compared to some of the stuff that is actually going on, especially with President Obama and the Taliban.

    April 23, 2009 at 11:40 am |
  3. Karil Daniels

    Talking about beauty pageants is exactly what we DON'T NEED. Talking about equal rights for everyone is entirely different, and the national conversation on that topic should be explored and debated until the whole country realizes that NO ONE should be relegated to second class status. This issue is very similar to the civil rights issue of the 1960's and it will ultimately have the same outcome as we evolve and improve as a nation – we will change and realize that all Americans must have the same rights.

    But the most pressing issue currently is the that of holding Bush & cronies accountable for the torture they authorized and implemented, in violation of several laws, and their repeated trampling on our Constitution. Our country has been damaged enormously by the unlawful acts of an administration drunk with power that misused its authority in dozens of ways.

    Months ago, Dennis Kucinich, one of our bravest politicians, read into the Congressional Record the long list of Bush/Cheney crimes against the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the American people, but CNN chose not to cover this very important and historic event. WHY NOT?

    If this country is going to heal from the abuses of Bush/Cheney, we need full investigations of the torture abuses, a probe into the deaths of all of the many prisoners who lost their lives during their captivity, and investigations into ALL of the the charges that Congressman Kucinich outlined in his historic speech. Only when we have discovered the truth and indicted and prosecuted the perpetrators, will our democracy be safe from future torturers and tramplers of our Constitution. CNN could be the voice that brings these issues to the front, so that we can move forward to find the truth and protect our Constitution, but the public needs its media giants to step up and ask the hard questions and demand the answers.
    And we need it yesterday!

    April 23, 2009 at 12:10 pm |
  4. Carol

    I have always paid my credit card bills on time...and pay much more than the amount due. so imagine my shock when {company} decided to increase my interest rate from 9 to 19%....all that with the fact that I had paid off another credit card in full recently and was have not maxed out any of my cards...and always pay up to 4 times the minimum due (I only had 3 cards). I think it is a disgrace what these banks are doing. And I have now vowed to pay off my 2 cards as quickly as possible and never again use a credit card! They wont be making money off me again.

    April 23, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  5. Gwen

    Beauty pageants parade women as livestock. This is the simple truth no matter how much lipstick you put on the pig. Are they relevant? Sure! They're certainly relevant to those who want women as chattle. They're relevant because they're so utterly offensive; i.e. the same way boxing or cock fighting is relevant.

    April 23, 2009 at 12:32 pm |
  6. Tom from Philly

    Well seeing we are off topic how bout this for a thought: the PRE christian admonitions against homosexuality are our version of sariah law... ancient outdated and repressive. what those 'religious' people dont tell you is on the same page moses says gays must be stoned to death, so too must those having sex before or outside marriage, and those who covet their neighbors mule (the jealous)

    Jesus was about love, understanding, forgiveness, the person without sin throwing the first stone, and feeding the poor. Since the republicans obviously cant read, mabey we should have bible readings to re educate them as to what it really says.

    There are a few in the republican party that are starting to realize that this is the civil rights issue of our time. And ultimately there are more gays and close gay relatives than there are conservative evangilists. The paradox of republicanism is the value of life until birth but the disrespect of it after. There is no more place in our society for harsh christian law then there is in the world for sariah law. They are both stupid outdated judgemental restrictive and a detriment to society

    and as far as the beauty pagents go or turning them into scolarship programs, my thoughts are similar. You can spray the air freshener in the bathroom the day after you eat mexican food, but guess what the smell is still there, just masked a little with a flowery scent.

    April 23, 2009 at 12:32 pm |
  7. Angie in NC

    Just got two separate letters from my bank in the last couple of weeks. One said they were increasing my interest rate and one said they were DECREASING my credit limit!!!! So in one swoop, they have lowered my credit score and for not reason!! I have never missed a payment, never bounced a check, and I had just paid off the balance! The wording led me to believe if I didn't agree with the changes, they would just cancel my card!!! I can't believe a large bank (won't say which....but they are one of those meeting with Pres. Obama today!) would treat a good and loyal customer that way!!! I have a checking and four savings accounts with them.... I sure hope the Congress does something about this type of is just not right!!!

    April 23, 2009 at 1:18 pm |
  8. Leah Sanchez

    My mother has always been a great payer, always has paid over her minimum. {Company} credit card for the month of March played a psychological game.
    They have always had their DUE DATE in the color red. My mother always looked at the due dates before paying. For March, they changed that and displayed in RED a DATE that told the user what the date is a month from "today". My mother thought at that time that this was her due date and thought she had another month to pay. When she made the late payment thinking that she was paying on time, they increased her percent from 2.00% to 30.00%. She called {company} credit card and after an hour of fighting with customer service they said they would do her the favor of lowering her interest rate from 30% to 11.00%.
    This was a dirty trick and who ever is working in consumer psychology with {company}, ought to be punished.

    April 23, 2009 at 2:10 pm |
  9. Hester Sweetwood

    I feel we need the credit card bill of rights before 2010. I paid off 2 of my credit cards and then they were closed. Now my credit score has probably taken a hit. How can I fight back against these unfair practices ?

    April 23, 2009 at 2:24 pm |
  10. Clara

    {Company} Credit Cards changed the red date from the due date to thirty days ahead from the date you are operating your computer causing a lot of late payments. I had 2.99% for the life of the debt, they moved to 29.99% for 7 days late due to this situation. I called them and the answer was: “to move the red color to another date is not an excuse for 7 days late payments" i have a degree in Psychology. The answer suppose to be: "Yes, we did that because we knew how much money we can make with this dirty mental game"

    April 23, 2009 at 2:43 pm |
  11. Aaron

    Gwen, the difference between these women and "pigs", or "cattle" is that they have a choice. I don't understand why you are so offended by this pageant idea. Jealousy?

    April 23, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    IT IS A CRUEL SCHEME THAT SHOULD BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY. How do they sleep at night knowing what they create.

    WHY ARE WE NOT BILLED ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS? like the world

    April 23, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
  13. Chris Bojorquez

    I am against beauty pageants! They encourage the disgusting idea that people should be judged based on the way they look rather than their values, morals, personality, character, and accomplishments. To me it's nothing short to an assessment for human trafficking or perhaps a slave trade...

    April 24, 2009 at 12:06 pm |
  14. FIN AID -- tip of the iceberg

    Your segment on Fin Aid with the young lady revealed something that has yet to be fully explored. Her experiences with Sallie Mae is FAR FAR FAR from uncommon.

    I, myself obtained a loan back in 2003 for an Executive MBA program ($80K). $45K of this went through Sallie, while another $15K went through a private lender - I paid the balance with my own money. My private loan was at 3.5% and has remaind at that level and is over half paid off. My Sallie loan was at 7.5% and consolidated early 2007 at that the recemendation of a Sallie rep over the phone - as a way to lower my payments and get a lower interest rate. While doing my taxes this year, I discovered my balance was over $46,500 - $1500 MORE than the original principle, while I had paid out over $4500 in interest for 2007 AND my current interest rate is 7.75%.

    When I called to get ANY explanation I was simply shuffled around, told it was my fault for consolidating and that if I wanted assistance I had to apply for deferrement, etc. I was also told Sallie does not "own" the loans and there is nothign they can do to help - I would have to work it out with the creditor assigned my loan or file bankruptcy (which student loans are protected and not subject to bankruptcy forgiveness). Needless to say, that was a dead end.

    Due to various unemployement and underemployed situations since my graduation in 2005, I am forced to keep my payments at a minimum through the various "graduated payment options" offered.

    The net result, for 25 years after graduating, I will have paid out to Sallie Mae (only) serviced loans over $125,000 in interest. At which point my payments will cover my original principle of $45,000 and be paid off in 5 years.

    Please don't let this news segment go unnoticed or get buried. While it is comforting and refreshing to hear Obama speak of access to education and reforming how aid is coming to future students - what is being done about those already in the system and victims of how Sallie Mae has been robbing and profiting on those that have succesfully entered and exited the education process.

    April 24, 2009 at 2:56 pm |
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