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September 10th, 2009
08:59 AM ET

Health Care: Has the Debate Gone too Far?

Joe Wilson, a Republican House member shouted "you lie" during President Obama's health-care reform speech to Congress last night. Town halls across the country have been heated with passionate voters shouting down politicians, often drowning out the debate.

So has it all gone too far? We want to hear from you.
Leave us your thoughts. We'll read some of your comments on air in the CNN Newsroom, 11pm-1pm ET.

Filed under: Tony Harris
soundoff (319 Responses)
  1. Doug

    I should say I was sent a request from the Republican National Committee Chairman to send Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi a postcard with their pre-written text on it to which my reply is posted here:

    I will send them(Democratic senators) the same card I send Republican senators, abide by the powers given to you in the U.S. Constitution. Fix the litigious ambulance chasers and the Insurance companies collusion to screw up the system. If I don’t have insurance the hospital will still treat me, therefore, Health-Care isn’t broke. Most people see a local doctor, but the insurance company may not be domiciled in the same state as your attorney if something goes wrong. That makes it Interstate Commerce and you have the Constitutional authority to regulate/control that. Most doctors/ hospitals and their patients are in the same state, making it intrastate commerce which you do not have the power to control from a constitutional point of view.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:05 am |
  2. Mike Armstrong TX.

    Only the future will tell if the president is a liar but at least Joe Wilson didnt throw his shoes.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:06 am |
  3. Jessie DeHoyos

    Where is the respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do we expect our youth and the rest of the country to respect one another and most of all the highest office in our country if our so call elected officials in high office act the way they do. Who the heck does Wilson think he is, does he not realize that was the President's time.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:11 am |
  4. Rob

    Obama has no clue on why healthcare is 3 times more expensive here than in other countries!!!
    First of all no one takes the effort to investigate doctor and hospital billing practises. That is where the problem originates.
    Inviting the doctors to help him, is like inviting Madoff to reform the banking system!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 9:17 am |
  5. Cheryl Barker

    The issues surrounding healthcare reform need to be debated. However, the debate should be courteous and factual. Calling the President of the United States in Congressional chambers a liar is neither.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:24 am |
  6. Mike Armstrong TX.

    It went too far when it passed the August first deadline.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:26 am |
  7. Steve

    Joe Wilson epitomizes the bitterness and hooligan attitude and tactics displayed by his party. I do not know how much more "unamerican" someone can be, by calling the president of the United States a liar. Honest Joe has let the true colors of his party out.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:32 am |
  8. Cassandra Mcmath

    This is What the stupid Bickering has brought ! This has got to stop,, so childish and How can anyone be so disrespectful to the President of America! Dont he know that our Enemies are watching! Just shameful....

    September 10, 2009 at 9:53 am |
  9. Drenda

    The outburst and remarks by Joe Wilson are "shameful."

    I apologize to our President and to our country FOR HIM....

    September 10, 2009 at 10:14 am |
  10. mike

    I am from Canada and ive been paying attention to the health debate you are going through. I hear from a lot of complaining from the people who have $ and not enough from the people that don"t, it seems to me , the biggest complaint is that the people that have health ins are very much afraid to help the poor to include a little extra $ out of their pockets to help build a nation for everyone. We in Canada may not have a perfect system yet ,it takes time and the right people in power to achieve such a tremendous task but if you continue to use the all mighty dollar as your insentive of not creating freedom and care for all then we are no smarter then man was a million years ago .Last year ther was a major melt down of the banking and insurance structure but yet it seems to me not many of the people in these areas did not learn much from it , except to find another trick or route to take to much $ . I was born in Detroit I have lived in the USA off and on and i hope that you and us can start to show the world that we have moved beyond the past and want to create a better place with love peace and caring for all.
    thanks to whoever take this letter seriously. MJL

    September 10, 2009 at 10:16 am |
  11. Rob in Riverview, Fl

    Tony, what is it about South Carolina? We might not even be in this position, if Bush hadn't spun the lie in South Carolina about McCain having an illegitimate black child back in his first campaign (which Gore actually won); then this mess with the Governor, and now this congressman. It appears that the ole saying, be careful, what you spew, because it will come back to you...really works! We all have to give account of our actions, sometimes in life we actually get to see firsthand, the result of a wrong coming home to the doorstep where it belongs! Tony.....I really dislike having to admit stinks that just when we think we have taken 3 steps forward, we find we have really lost 5 steps....but I live in the south. Down here, there is still a generation or two that live in the dark ages about race...all this southern anger we see now, is purely, racism hid, sadly; inside the cloak of the church. I wanted Hilary to win; but I support my President and I am proud of him. I pray that his strength continues, because I truly believe he is the first President in a while, who wants what is best for all of us...I trust him! I did always believe that race would play a part in this election; today, I am even more sure! I am white, and I am NOT proud of my southern neighbors today!

    September 10, 2009 at 10:33 am |
  12. Larry

    Joe Wilson .... what else would you expect. I would say he should be ashamed ... but if you lack proper social skills you cannot feel shame. This is just more example of what the republican party has become.....

    September 10, 2009 at 10:34 am |
  13. Dwayne G.

    How disrespectful have some of these lawmakers gotten! For a state representative to call out the The President of the United States (forget that he's Barack Obama) as a liar in an open session for the entire country to see and hear. He should have been arrested or escorted out at the least. I'm sure proud i don't live in S. Carolina.

    September 10, 2009 at 10:37 am |
  14. Bwild

    Cong. Wilson was very disrespectful, outrages,no dignity for our country or himself to be a representive for the u. s. This behavior is not to be over look, this guy should reap his inappropriate character, not to be a repeat. He should be fined, or suspended without pay. He cross the wrong line with this outburst, while the President of the United State was speaking.

    September 10, 2009 at 10:39 am |
  15. mike b (lowell mass)

    no, this is the beauty of america, you reap what you sow.

    September 10, 2009 at 10:40 am |
  16. Neormia

    Joe Wilson has gone too far with his coments, he should be removed from his seat permantly. Totally disrespectful, has no right to any seat any where.

    September 10, 2009 at 10:49 am |
  17. Kay Morgan

    Yes, the so-called "debate" has gone too far. Everyone knows what the 800 pound gorilla in the room is. Wilson just had to yell at it. He didn't even know what he was talking about and the screamers at the town hall meetings are in the same category. This shouldn't even be called a debate. There has been no debating to it. Knock the gorilla down and run him off and they think everything will be fine. God help us all!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  18. Annie Monroe

    It is so sad when you have an outburst like that from Mr.(R)Wilson. He should have been led out of the building. For me He acted like a little kid. Yes, we are all scared and don't know the outcome but something has to be done about health care. He is the President of the United States of America. What else do the (R) want to act out. I feel for the people that elected him. So Sad.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  19. Joe

    We've seen over and over where the Repubs. project their flaws onto the Dems. They're desperately greedy and even when interviewed almost always manage to find a negative comment. We have observed that most of them can no longer answer a question but spout their rehersed propaganda which has been handed to them for that particular day!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  20. Solomon

    It is an awful shame the way wilson responded. It is not about your like or dislike for President Obama, it is about our country. I am a retired Army Disabled Vet and when I wore my uniform, I understood that my country came before my feelings. My mother always told me that sometimes you need to put your feelings in your pocket. Wilson could learn a little something from my mother's saying. Respect the office! The whole world as well as our young ones are watching and this sends a terrible message.Though he is a representative from South Carolina, I know that he was not representing them last night. We need health care reform. Lets face it, we can not continue down the path that is destined to destroy many families. Many like to bring the bible into the political equation, so I ask, Where is your faith? Do you really believe the book or is it merely a smoke screen. RESPECT THE OFFICE. This is America.Shame on Joe Wilson.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  21. Kevin

    Let's not forget that the President called people liar's prior to Joe Wilson's disrespectful outburst. While Mr. Wilson's comment was wrong, so was the President's. Just because he is the President, it doesn't give him the right to be disrespectful either. He, even more than Mr. Wilson, should be setting the example of respect to our youth and not calling people liars.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  22. MARY

    Ever since the election ended, the Right have been whinning,complaining and telling lies. The townhall meetings were a joke. From using their Blackberries and now yelling at the President, the Right have shown their true colors-disrespect for the office of the President of the United States. The Party should be ashamed of themselves.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  23. Ashley

    Joe Wilson just showed that he has no RESPECT for President Obama. He can apologize all he wants but nobody wants to call it how it is............The fact is the Healthcare Plan is great ........some people just want to complain and bash because the great plan is coming from the first African American President. Forget FINES and SUSPENSION he needs to be removed permantly because this type of behavior should NEVER be tolerated.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  24. Davis Nguyen

    I believe that we should work together to make things right. Shouting out in a meeting is disrespectful to the president. Joe Wilson, a Republican, act was childless.

    Thanks Davis Nguyen

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  25. Angela

    The congressman's bitterness and disrespect caused a laspe in memory. He overlooked the fact that he was listening to the President who is a black man. We are still fighting the Civil War.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  26. ROY

    To Neormia comments , should be removed from office ,disrespectful
    we tried that with Bill Clinton , did you disagree with throwing him out ?

    September 10, 2009 at 11:32 am |
  27. Brian Robinson

    Clearly, it has gone too far. The fear of change is pounding in the hearts of many "Americans" far and wide, and people fear what they don’t understand. That’s how name calling and rumors are spread for no absolute reason. Obama is trying to do something right and help many more people for once, look how many people are without health care, as well as, in poverty, (Health is wealth ). Wanting to help people you care nothing about must be tough for some republicans. Yes, the health care reform Obama is proposing has flaws but it’s a start, and that’s what this country need is a new beginning.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  28. Vincent

    When will we as a nation stop accepting this kind of unprecedented behavior toward our president.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  29. Michael

    Forget about the white noise in the background it is only a distraction from the main issue of healthcare. Personally, I am very glad Obama talked about covering preconditions, I am a cancer survivor and I don’t want to be denied coverage. I am even happier that Obama promised to fully coverer mammograms and colonoscopies; which is critical to early prevention. Please congress pass healthcare as Obama has stated.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  30. gale beasley

    Stop beating around the bush, we know why the Republican party is so angry with anything the Democrats suggest or introduce to the congress and the people. With all the respect Joe Wilson showed the President of The United States last night I refuse to give him any respect as a man or congressman. Bottom line up front as long as the president of the united states is a black man the republicans and and their supporters will not support the Office of the President of The United States, so drop the smoke screen we are not as stupid as the republicans, liberals and their supporters like to think.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  31. Jimmy McKeller (LPC, LCDC III) Ohio

    You bet that it has gone too far!! I mean, come on – the U.S Congress is not the House of Parlament of the UK, nor is it an afterschool bully fest. The actions last night by Rep. Wilson did nothing but bring shame to himself and to the State of South Carolina. Perhaps, Mr. Wilson should join Ellen DeGeneres and replace Simon Cowell as a judges on American Idol.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  32. Don

    Censure him for conduct, so it's the last we have to hear from or of him.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  33. Nancy Ross

    Certainly South Carolinians appear intent on running their Governor off. If the Governor leaves they should use Joe Wilson as an exit mat. After the Governor walks out over him they could just sweep Wilson on out the door.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  34. azuh chuks okolie

    Dear tony, that misbehavior from a so called Rep, shows that the Republicans in the House of rep, likewise in senate are not really ready to join hands with the democrats in this Health Insurance reform.

    I suggest to the Democrats to settle there differences now, and come together as one to make sure that this Health Reform goal is quickly and totally achieved with or without the Republicans.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  35. Kyle, Oklahoma City

    Gone too far is an understatement. The level of disrespect on display from these "passionate" misguided people has become more and more beyond the pale. I think the media has shown these crazies more respect than they ever should have.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  36. Larry Brooks MD, FACEP

    Heckling is not usual but the subject that the president is talking about is very personal & freedom of speech is still accepted in this country. The president says that illegal immigrants are not covered in his program is true. However, the government has passed an unfunded mandate that all patients will be seen in the emergency rooms of our country and these costs are born by all who pay with or without insurance. Thus, we all pay for this care and illegal immigrants know about this unfunded mandate and use EDs for their primary care. Reality is that if we are not going to control our borders, then we should pay for the mandated care. If we can not control our borders which is a mandated requirement of Congress, then take some responsibility for their failures.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  37. Sonya Brown Stallworth

    Congratulations President Oboma
    I think your message was clear to everyone who heard. I know all Americans will agree it is time for a change, because doing nothing about the problem definitely won't fix it. I think it's time to call out those who pay for those ridiculous commercials and the Politicians in Washington need to stop their bickering and get on with what is important to the American people. The republicans need to learn to be good egalitarians for the good of us all, for the character of our country and the American people. Last, I would like to say Joe Wilson, really made himself look foolish last night but, what’s in us, will come out of us, and his foolishness is out for the public to see.

    Thank You

    Sonya Brown Stallworth
    Small Business Owner

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  38. Patsy Kyles

    Senator Wilson was WRONG WRONG, WRONG. You did not have to vote for the President, you do not have to like the President but, you must RESPECT the President of the United States. His action last night describes his character. Didn't your Mother teach you about respect Senator Wilson? It is a matter of properly conducting yourself in ANY situation, not only for the sake of others but, for yourself. Learn how to behave Senator Wilson this was totally unacceptable...

    September 10, 2009 at 11:33 am |
  39. Mary Baldridge

    The behavior on the Republican side of the Aisle last night did not befit representatives of the country, from texting while the President was speaking to shouting out he was a liar! Is it just spill-over from the sanctioned bad behavior of the health care "debates?" Or is it something else, something underlying those accusations levied at President Obama that he's "racist" or like Hitler, or his administration is facist, or the use of the term Socialism as a four-letter word? Is it just ignorance or something else? I for one, am on guard. Remember what Pogo said, many years ago: We have seen the enemy & it is us.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  40. Ron

    While I believe in freedom of speech, t find Wilson's outburst ironic. Repubs are always yapping about preserving traditions, resorting decorum, and institutional values. Repubs are funny and stupid.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  41. Pascale


    SHAME ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PRESIDENT Obama made me changed my mind yesterday, NOW I'M TOTALLY FOR HIS PLAN. He was so clear, specific, honest and passionate ON HIS VISION FOR THE HEALTH CARE REFORM.... I TRUST THIS PRESIDENT, HE HAS A GREAT VISION FOR USA.


    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  42. Jorge

    Corrected version!!!!!!!

    Hi Tony:

    With all your respect, I think that we Americans have gone too far when it comes to disrespecting our President from talk radio pundits to now Congress people? I believe that the Republican Party should be ashamed of creating unrest in our country and continuing to divide us further. Living in a Republican stronghold like the State of Arizona it is not a pleasant situation when all you hear is the bickering of such republican individuals that for the most part speak without knowing about the issue that they are addressing.

    How many times in our most current past decades have you seen a President being hackled or disrespected as much as our current President has been? Have we taken all of our liberties too far?
    I’m truthfully beginning to wonder…….


    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  43. Ed

    Yes it has gone too far. Once again the party of no who have the insurance companies in their back pocket are only in it for their own personal gain and not to help the people. Their lies tell the story.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  44. Gary

    It was wrong and he is facing deserved opposition from both sides. But the president basically calls a cop stupid for doing what is right and then he is forgiven after having a beer with the guy. This guy apologized immediately and people are posting hateful things. Even the democrat speaker said they are moving on. The people saying these things should ask themselves why they felt different over the two examples. Maybe because they are closed minded themselves. Both examples should be forgiven. Thank you.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:34 am |
  45. Jacqueline

    Not sure I'd say it's gone too far – more like if our leaders would listen there wouldn't be a need to go on and on. Voicing our concerns hasn't changed a thing in the bill. O just keeps reiterating the same talking points over and over – things tht we all know at this point simply are not feasable! I have heard lots of possibly viable suggestions for reform, O just blows them off and says none were offered. The easiest, fastest. least expensive single thing he could do is get rid of the law that prohibits insurers from working over state lines. Without one dime of cost it would significantly increase competition. That brings down cost. How about medical debit cards for the currently un-insured? This president is single focused on building HIS legacy to the expense of our getting it right. I'd ask those who say this has gone on too long to understand that this is only still going on because we haven't gotten it right yet! Please, actually listen for possible, viable options instead of listening with your fingers in their ears!, hearing your own agenda.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |


    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  47. Poet E.L.Conrod


    I don't think it has gone to far especially at the town hall meetings, afterall, this is why town hall meetings are held. We expect to hear disagreements and rants even anticipating some becoming very boisterous. However, when we have senators and congressmen/women and other politicians assembled, we expect quite the opposite. When the president is speaking in that type of format, regardless of how much one disagrees, he or she should contain themselves and wait for the interview afterwards which always comes. For Joe Wilson to shout out "you lie" was completely disrespectful and saying he's sorry doesn't subtract from his actions.
    Senator Joe Wilson you now say you're sorry, "you lie". You're not.


    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  48. Marcus

    Debating any issue is healthy. It gives everyone a chance to voice their opinion. But it is also a time and a place to do so. If Mr. Wilson disapproves of the Presidents agenda to such a degree then he should have done so in a more appropriate time and place. We have never witnessed such a disrespect of our highest office by a Congressman. Mr. Wilson should resign immediately! He has no respect for our President or the seat he holds.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  49. Tina

    I am originally from Ghana and have been an American citizen for the past 30 something years and very proud to be an American. I was apalled at the outburst of Joe Wilson. I expect this kind of disrespectful outburst during a presidential address from the "so called uncivilized countries" but not from a United States House Member. The toungue is a dangerous tool and Wilson definitely did not check his – apology or no apology it has been said.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  50. Diana Riley

    I think it has gone to far when you cant even respect the pres. when he is talking to the country. It sems to me it is more about his skin color than the issue of health care.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  51. Jack

    Joe Wilson must be out of office. It was shameful what he did and how he did.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  52. Kris A.

    The entire display by the Republicans during the President's speech was perfect! Perfectly suited for the selfish and inneffective party they have become. They looked and acted like pouting teenagers. They also showed their loyalty is completely dedicated to the corporations they represent instead of the people they should be representing. The Republican party is now a party completely ruled by the philosophy that unless it benefits private profit, it isn't worth supporting. They will go after anything that interupts the profit for the few at the expense of the American PEOPLE they are supposed to be caring about.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:35 am |
  53. karen

    Tony, the congressman from South Carolina did not mean it when he said sorry. He meant what he said, all of the people from the slave states believe the same ting even if they serve some where else. He lost control and said it you lie, I no they hated to comdemn him publicly. Because they feel the same.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  54. Helen

    Joe Wilson is, in my estimation, totally classless. To publically call the President of the United States a liar just shows me he has no proper upbringing. He is also a racist. I am sure if President Obama was white he would not have done that. This President is trying his best to help this country out of the mess the Republican party got us into over the last eight years. It took eight years to mess it up, does anyone with a grain of sense and fairness think it is going to take seven months to fix it?

    The problem is, the President is a black man and these racists cannot get used to the fact that their Presidents' skin color is not the same as theirs. They should be ashamed of themselves. They claim they are Christians, they are nothing but bigots. They should get down on their knees every night and ask the Lord to forgive them for their prejudicies which is mostly what this is all about. I even hear some of the journalists and other people referring to our President as Mr. Obama. FOR THE RECORD, HE IS PRESIDENT OBAMA TO ALL OF YOU!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  55. Doug

    I find it amazing that the Republican party can't read, and results to doing the majority or lying on the Health Care proposal (Rep. Wilson), I'm also amazed that when someone wore a NO BUSH T-Shirt to a town hall meeting a few years ago they were arrested, yet republicans come to the Presidents town Halls with automatic weapons, Nazi signs and more and are not. (you know the old saying Guns don't kill people , T Shirts do? or something like that.) 8 years of dumbing up the nation will take some time to correct, oh thats right education is a bad thing, President Obama should have been a C- cheerleader then everything would be OK ( oh I forgot,and white !)

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  56. Catherine -

    Mr wilson is a disrespectful jerk. Is this kind of behaivor that you want from your representative? Where was Mr. Wilson when GW was selling us a bunch of LIES about the WAR? Where are the WMD's
    Mr. Wilson? Mission Complete? I could go on and on and on.
    I hope the people of South Carolina vote him out of office. I know I would not want someone like that representing me. I want a Rep, who displays dignity and shows some respect for others. I wish they would have hauled him out of there.
    I suppose that he was one of the folks that did not want President Obama talking to our children? God help us when we have this kind of person speaking on our behalf!

    Congrs. Man Wilson has got to go!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  57. Betsy Sabol Portland OR

    I have been disgusted by the ideological warfare of the past month.
    As a senior, I remember the storm and fury when Medicare was enacted and characterized as a "communist plot". It is time to turn off the heat and turn on the LIGHT! Come on people...

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  58. Teri

    How rude Mr. Wilson. Your apology to our president is not good enough. You need to apologize to the nation so everyone who feels offened can hear. The childish, rude, and ignorant manner in which you reacted during the president's speech is unacceptable. You see his speech is part of the ongoing debate on health care. Make some constructive comments and stop whinning. I am offened by you.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  59. Nai Thomas

    President Obama was totally disrespected last night by Joe Wilson. If this had happened in another country, you could only imagine what would have happened to Joe Wilson right there on the spot!!! Thank Goodness we are in the Land of The Free, but the President deserves the up most respect even if you do not agree with him.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  60. Stephen J Dunston

    The yelling "You lie" or any other screaming out during any speech being made by any elected official, especially during a Presidential speech is not appropriate. This guy has demeaned himself. He lost control of his temper. He has apologized, but I also hope he has learned that if he wants people to respect him, he'll have to show respect for others.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  61. Minoosh

    Yes, it has gone too far. I am personally very frustrated by what is happening. I hope the President can do something to reform our healthcare system and I don't understand where all this hostility toward this reform is coming from. I can understand that a public option would hurt the Insurance industry but why is the average person so threatened by it? A public option could only help us. Some of us can't afford insurance as it is but those who do have insurance, do not have adequate coverage. Our family's health insurance policy has $5000 per person deductible with a one year pre-exisiting and we are still paying for our son's tonsillectomy out of our pockets one years later.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  62. Joe

    This is what political debate is all about. For the last eight years we have heard nothing but "Bush is a liar". We have heard Democrats boo President Bush when he made speeches. When a Republican speaks his opinion about a statement the president makes he is "disrespectful". What a double standard.

    The fact is that the Republicans proposed an amendment to this bill that would require proof of residency and the Democrats rejected it. If there is no enforcement then the illegal aliens will be covered (just as they are today).

    As for political debate and its current state, look at our history. This has always been the case. Look at the divide between Jefferson and Adams. These two men wrote our declaration of independence and formed our government. But later became bitterly divided when Adams was President. Go to a re-enactment of a constitutional convention. You will see all kind of discourse. Political debate is what makes our country great. If we are not allowed to express our opinion–then there is not debate and we have become a dictatorship. We did not want this when Bush was President and we don't want it when Obama is President.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  63. Ann Grauer

    My father fought in WW2 under Eisenhower. He did not like the man(on moral grounds). But when he was elected President and I objected at the tender age of 10. He sat me down and told me whether you respect the man or not you Must respect whoever holds the office. I have never forgotten that talk.

    Joe Wilson not only disrespected the man but, also, the President. He should be ashamed of himself. I am.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  64. Angel

    JOE WILSON WENT TOO FAR! I am not saying that he has to agree but he should not have acted in such a disrespectful manner. If I did that at work when the CEO was talking I would lose my job. Why would he be allowed to this at his place of work? At the same time this should not take attention off the real issue and I believe that was his intention. It is time for change, this is what we wanted when we elected Obama so why are we so scared of it.


    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  65. Jennifer Johnson

    I am a proud supporter of President Obama.. here in South Carolina, I have been threatened and harrassed because of my Obama bumper stickers. Unfortunately there is still a lot of ugly racism and prejudice here. I will continue to work for health care reform and support our brave President. i commend him for his hard work and determination. I will do all I can to fight racism and prejudice as well. Rep. Joe wilson ... should be ousted. I am from North Carolina and have lived in Sc for 16 years now.. and I must say.. we have a lot of prejudiced, ignorant "backward" people. I was told I might get "shot" for having Obama bumper stickers on the back of my truck .. (they will remain though!) God speed Mr. President

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  66. Diana Sherwood

    I am appalled and disgusted at Wilson's disrespect to the office of the President. No matter how much we disagree over health care reform, demonstrating to our children and the rest of the world that our elected representatives are allowed to show such poor judgement and behaviour with no consequence is indicative of why the rest of our society is falling into believing this is acceptable behaviour in a civilized world. It is not acceptable behaviour, and it is time we stand up and say enough is enough!!!! He should be censured.

    If anything has galvanized me toward Obama's ideas, it is the bigot Wilson's loud mouth and his party's acceptance of said behaviour.

    Diana in Albuquerque

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  67. Marilyn

    The lack of respect for this president is over and above the norm. Wilson's remark was absolutely uncalled for. The Conservative Republicans are so frightened of President Obama's success that they are making themselves look like petty, spoiled children. As an Independant voter, I am trying to keep an open mind, but the nasty, disrespectfull emails that I have received from my Republican friends and relatives are proving to me that we are fortunate that the Republican candidate was not voted into office. My prayer is that the American voter realizes where this disrespect is coming from..

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  68. chris

    Rep. Joe Wilson. Shame on YOU!!! I am sure you just committed political suicide for your outragas outburst!! How can there be ANY legitimate discussion with the republicans when this is an example of how they behave?

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  69. Jade

    This would have never happened if the President were white!!!!
    Who Joe Wilson thought he was talking to? One shows even more respect to his/her own children.
    As passionate as healthcare debate can be, it does not allow people to be disrespectful to one another.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  70. San Pablo Juan

    Yes, it has gone too far. We see it going too far with the un-ending stream of discredited talking points from the right, the factually-challenged advertisments, and the distractions of loud mouths like Joe Wilson.

    Our leaders need to stop politicking ahead of the next election and start solving problems. Why? Here's something the president said that got lost behind the Joe Wilson coverage: "... those of us with health insurance are also paying a hidden and growing tax for those without it - about $1,000 per year that pays for somebody else's emergency room and charitable care."

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  71. James McNeely

    I agree with Congressman Joe Wilson when he shouted out, "YOU LIE!" to President Obama. I have seen for years how I have to pay and pay dear for my health care, while illegal immigrants pour across our borders and suck our infrastructure dry. As an American Citizen paying taxes for over 40 years, I'm sick and tired of carrying these people on my back! I say put Congressman Wilson in the Oval Office, he obviously knows what's going on!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  72. Jean

    Last night, I listened to President Obama's speech about Health Care Reform and I was greatly impressed. What an intelligent speech. He did not read from a script. I clapped for him.
    If the Republicans and others who oppose the HCR do not support the President, something is drastically wrong with them. I will state that they do not care about those who are in dire need of health care.
    Pertaining to the member who stated loudly to the President which everyone heard, no exception CNN's viewers worldwide, "You lie!" is out-of-place. This man is extremely disrespectful. Is this the example he projects and to specifically the young people at that who may have been listening and those who will read the newspapers and will hear that statement over and over again via TV and Radio? This man may have children and grandchildren who were probably listening.
    As US President, your President deserves due respect.
    I do not know if you know this short poem – prose: I remember it since by childhood days at school.

    Four things that come not back:
    The spoken word
    The sped arrow
    The past life
    And the neglected opportunity.

    There is another statement: "Words are like atom bombs. Be careful how you use them.
    Pertaining to the "spoken word", people as members of Parliament, Legislature, Senators, etc., must be careful what they say and to the President. They need to watch their words and think before they speak lest they offend their colleagues. This goes for each and everyone of us.
    If especially in my personal life anyone dare disrespect me be it in words, they will hear what I have to say to them. I demand respect. Every human being deserves respect and to be accorded their due rights and dignity.
    President Obama is too much of a gentleman to speak in such an unbecoming manner. They should all learn from him.
    It could be said that this is politics. Nevertheless, people must guard their mouths, tongues and what comes out of their lips which is imbedded in their hearts and thoughts. To act otherwise, this is what creates wars, arguments, animosity and even hatred. The mouth is a dangerous one which no one can tame (Holy Scriptures – New Testament). Therefore, as individuals we must be careful about what we say to others and a US President at that.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |


    September 10, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  74. John Garceau

    For those whose solution to the perils of the nation is to hate, scream epithets, flagrantly distort and lie, or just say NO with no improvements, I have nothing but contempt and disgust. The politicians of most of the G7 Nations have pulled together to effectively minimize or eradicate their recessions. We haven't! We're stuck with politicians whose real desire is to do nothing, say "no", or outright distort the actions of those who really care.
    The rants of Joe Wilson et al, Sarah Palin et al solve NOTHING; they are shallow, divisive, not based on reality; they are truly a media-feeding sideshow! Grow up and earn your salaries, Congress.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  75. Tamela Weathersby

    I live in SC and am so ashamed. Joe Wilson has got to go.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  76. sheri

    of course, the president lies...he is trying to sell a bogus bill. Top story of day is not a heckler but Acorn being exposed.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  77. Jennifer Maxwerll

    Even as a Southerner I have been shocked and awed by the old specter of racism that having an African American president has aroused. When town halls of white people scream and dissolve into hysteria over the possibility of health care reform, make no mistake it is about race and it is about a perceived loss of power. I have yet to see a seething, chanting room of Latinos. African Americans, Asian Americans or Native Americans at any town meeting regarding health care.

    A majority of both parties had no problem running up our deficit to fund the war in Iraq – a country that neither invaded us nor had weapons of mass destruction. The cost? - merely millions a day. They were unwavering in there commitment to drive our deficit tthrough the stratosphere in the name of war. Now essentially the same group is having a pang of conscience when making health care affordable and available to the least among us IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. Make no mistake this is about race and this about power.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  78. renee hernandez

    that outburst by congressman wilson was the most disrespectful display i have ever seen and i bet if you look back in history you wil find that nothing like that has ever happend before. How ironic that the first time we have such display of disrespectful behavior that it would be directed to our nations first black president. I believe there are underlying isssues why he is being so disrespected by poloticians and americans that claim to be against. this health care policy because of the cost. I think it funny that these people who are labeling obama a nazi are the same people that are displaying and racist nazi behavior. dont hide behind the health care policy just admit you dont want a black president telling what health care you can have.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  79. vr henning

    Typical liberal reporting... you stated there are 46.3 Americans without health insurance... while the footnote indicated 46.3 people in America without health insurance

    September 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  80. Ed

    As much as I hate to say this, the Town Hall meetings remind me of a KKK rally. All of the screaming, hollering and uncontrolled anger really has a radical appearance.
    It's OK to disagree and to debate different points of view, but America has always done that. There's more to this hatred than people and the media wants to admit. I personally think there is a segment of people who absolutely hate the president, hate that he is Black and will do eveything in their power to undercut his efforts! Shameful!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:39 am |
  81. terrence

    for a member of cabinet to yell at the president of the usa during an address to the nation,thats on heard of ,i'm left with no choice than to think that mr wilson have no respect for the nation,himself and last the president . i am wondering what and who he sees the president as , if he take the president for one of his boys that meet an a saturday night for bowling, an apology is not good enough

    September 10, 2009 at 11:39 am |
  82. Ptricia

    It is funny how the Republicans act as if President Obama did something wrong. The President is cleaning up what their party created. Have we forgotten? Americans are far too smart to have short term memory.

    Now, the Republicans is trying to belittle the Office of the President. Obama is no cartoon character so get a grip folks and stop trying to act like he is. This man was elected overwhelming by the people for a reason. We wanted his leadership not no one else.

    Remember that!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:39 am |
  83. J_SATX

    You really have to ask yourself...Why the lack of respect for the president? Joe Wilson is an embrassment to all politicians. In a time that requires all of us to work together as a nation of one; we are reminded that some people still can't let go that he is the president, and the refuse to give him the same respect that he has earned. We have lost focus on the issue at hand....(Health Care) and maybe that is Joe Wilson's plan. You would think that an educated man would have more sense and selected a better venue to make his campaign push.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:40 am |
  84. Bryant (R-TX)

    No Apologizing for Joe here.I guess the Biggest problem he (Obama) has , is they don't know that no one trusts them any more after Billions are put out and they don't know where it went . No more rushing bills threw that no one reads or has any idea what it say's. Obama has no more credibility and that's that.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:40 am |
  85. Karen A

    Absolutely it has gone too far! Even if you disagree with the President where is your respect for the office, the chambers and the people you swore to represent? I have watched many presidential addresses and no matter the division or disagreement over policy decisions never has a sitting president been disrected in such a manner. So I wonder is it really the bill you are against or is it a personal vendetta against the president? Do you really care about what's best for the 46million uninsured of the country? If so work why not concentrate your energies to effect & implement change rather than fueling the fires of division through fear, anger & half truths!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:40 am |
  86. Howard Szczurek

    Do I think that Rep. Joe Wilson go to far last night? Ofcourse and when other members of the GOP and logically members of the DNC attack it just bulsters the fact.

    Do I think that it has gone to far in the town hall meetings, rallies and other outlets? It is hard to say. It is the beauty of our country that you can speak out or for what the government is proposing to do or at least trying to get done.

    It is nice to see such uproar, divide and unity going on around the country about a domestic issue rather than an international one.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:40 am |
  87. Tamia

    Of course this has gone too far Mr. Tony.
    How can they expect us (the nation's youth) to grow up to be proud of our country and respect our country, when people with the highest rankings in the government disrespect our country by disrespecting our President. After all the bad that came from Bush's administration, I've never heard Joe Wilson, or any other house member call him out of his name and disrespect him. It really makes me believe that race is still somewhat an issue in this country. It was so easy for Wilson to disrespect Obama, that I was convinced race played apart. Someone needs to put an end to this disrespect! They need to do it now!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:41 am |
  88. Dave

    The degree of disrespect for civil proceedings has just about disappeared over the last several months. An outburst like we saw last night from Rep. Wilson is something that one would expect in London, but not in the US Capital. Those who condone this behavior or even use it to generate further response are damaging the foundation of our form of government.

    A US congressman should first of all understand what is in or not in a bill and second of all if he does not believe the president, he can raise the issue at a later time. This was an attempt to disrupt the talk, just like many of the Town Halls. We deserve a civil society.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:41 am |
  89. Charles Kopack

    Mr. Wilson (I won't demean the term congressment, since he clearly does not deserve it) is another example of how far out of touch this 'debate' has become. Too bad there is not a charge of conduct unbecoming for members of congress. It is also a prime example of how members of congress feel that they are above civilized behavior. He should be made to pay for his indescretion. A singple apology is NOT enough.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:41 am |
  90. Martha

    Shameful...disrespectful and I think should be removed. Joe Wilson, like many others disrespect this President for obvious reasons other than his policies. They need to get over it and do good for this country. Right now they rather see set back than help those that are suffering.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:41 am |
  91. Laura

    Regarding Rep. Wilson, I think he's an idiot. He did a great job representing South Carolina Republicans as ignorant and disrespectful rednecks. He's contributed to my view of the Republican party as a radical right-wing group that is more concerned with dissolving support for the issues (and for the other party) than it is for doing good for the American people (not just for big business and themselves).

    Democrats: +2
    Republicans: -1

    September 10, 2009 at 11:41 am |
  92. Victor V.

    Im a Democrat, I didn't vote for President Obama and I don't agree with everything he wants to accomplish. BUT! I would never in my dreams interrupt and disrespect My President, The President Of The United States! Democrat or Republican, as young school children were taught not to interrupt our teacher in class when he/she is speaking, As a elected official Congressmen Wilson should remember that. He is their to protect what he calls "traditional" values FACT CHECK: Mister Wilson Respect is a traditional value

    September 10, 2009 at 11:43 am |
  93. Judy Hiester

    In reference to the Rep. Wilson's heckling . . . totally disrespectful. Did Democrats ever shout at Pres. Bush when he was selling us on the Iraq War – BIG LIE!!!! I believe Mr. Wison should face some sort of reprimand – apology or not – to show that this kind of behavior is totally unacceptable. Pres. Obama is our President and as every President before him – he deserves all of our respect. He certainly has mine.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:43 am |
  94. Angela

    The Republicans' chickens came home to roost last night. What goes around comes around. Shame on you Mr. Wilson.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:43 am |
  95. Chris Deer

    As a native South Carolinian, I just want the country to know that despite our embarrassing representatives, we are a civilized, educated and compassionate people that deserve better representation than Gov. Mark Sanford and Representative Joe Wilson!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:43 am |
  96. sophie young

    How dare Joe Wilson disgracing our country by blurting out to the President of our country. Our president deserves respect from citizens of the United States. all he is trying to do is to better what has been screwed up for many decades. These old farts were showing all kinds of disrepect by blurting out "you lie" to black berrying. I wonder if they are doing this because Obama is black. I'm not black but no presidents in the past had been shown this kind of gesture. What would people in the other country would think of us. Joe Wilson's apology was not genuine. He is an idiot. There are bunch of idiots sitting there not wanting to do anything about our screwed up health care system. I'm not a democrat either but I love Barak Obama trying to do something right. God bless him.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:43 am |
  97. Thomas Tribble


    Congress Wilson's conduct was unbecoming of a statesman and should not be tolerated. I believe his apology was a shallow attempt too save his neck. He should be asked to step down; insulting the President during a State of the Union Address shows disrespect for the office of the President and for the individual holding that post. Is it that because we have an African-American President we should allow such behavior? I say no!!!! Let that congressman suffer the consequences of his actions and lose his post and political career...

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  98. John Garceau

    Let Joe's constituents throw him out on Nov 4, 2010. There are better people solving all the problems of the Nation while holding down a seat in the Bar than him. When Wilson screamed "you lie" last night, he epitomized all the ignorance and extremism of the Birthers, Tea Partiers and other way far Right wing group; their only "contribution" is to divide and dehumanize those who would help us all. WAKE UP, YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  99. Kathryn Profera

    Having no respect for OUR president, an intelligent well-spoken man, or the Office, is to me, as a former educator, the height of ignorance. Where has love of country, good citizenship and respect gone, for those who take up the challenge, and try to make the country a better place? It seems that ignorant people and their poor decorum and manners have become part of the problem in America. Emulating the ignorant behaviors of loud- mouthed talk show hosts, does not bring a thing to any discussion. But when a sitting legislator, modeled disrespect to our President at a Congressional speech, viewed by our school students;- well, this is most shameful, and shows NO RESPECT for the office of President or Congress.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  100. Bob, San Diego, CA.

    Everyone knows we need health care reform. But at this time we need Jobs, not health care. We will see if he lied or not. Obama chose to give our money to the auto company's to save over payed union autoworker jobs. I am 64 years old and out of work for the first time in my life and using up my savings fast. With jobs will come heath care. To me Obama acted more like a king at times the the man we voted for. Good luck to our U.S.A

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  101. John Babitskas

    In Atlanta. That was his way of saying "Hail to the Chief". This congressmen is in the Army Reserve and he just called HIS Commander in Chief a LIAR. He should be booted out of the service and be given a dishonor able discharge.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  102. Monali Khandagle

    The lack of civility shown by many republicans is the result of the path they have chosen for the past decade or more of destruction with no regard to right or wrong. They attacked John Kerry, stole the election from Al Gore, lied to us about Iraq and destroyed our economy. Now they are on warpath not against healthcare but to destroy the presidency of Barack Obama. Healthcare is a tool being used by those who do not like to see an African American president especially since he is a intelligent thinker – which the republicans have few off among their midst.
    Not one republican had the decency to denounce the fear mongering attacks being spread by those who did not have the sense to know better. By staying silent they are dragging their party down and leading their America down a path of destructive dialogue. Patriotism is more than just waving the flag and America is a lot more decent than old timers with racist philosophies who claim 'they want their America back'. What America do they want – the one that denied right to African Americans, women their rights?

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  103. Gram

    Of course the bickering has gone too far! It should never have started! Why do some Christians not support health care for all? We keep hearing that we are the richest nation in the world and the best. Then act like it!!! "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Would these Christians REALLY want others to let them die because they did not have money for health care? And ,yes ,there are people out there dying every day because they do not have good health care.
    It can't be about money because the President has said over and over that he will not sign any bill that adds one dime to the national deficit.Do the Republicans really believe that we are so dumb that we do not see the smoke screen they through trying to protect their weal the constituents?

    September 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |
  104. Jerry Caplin

    You should deal with the real issue raised by Rep Wilson's outburst when the President claimed that illegal aliens wouldn't have benefits under the proposed health-care bill. The issue isn't whether Rep. Wilson was rude–which he was–it's whether illegal aliens would receive such benefits–which they would. That's what needs to be addressed and clarified. The President's claim is false.

    An August 25, 2009 report of the of the U.S. Congress’s own non-partisan Congressional Research Service concludes that illegal aliens will be able to receive benefits under the House health-care bill owing to two major loopholes.

    The CRS report says that the first loophole allows illegal aliens to enroll in the taxpayer-subsidized public option since, “H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on non-citizens–whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently–from participating...”

    The second loophole lies in the absence of any provision in the House bill that requires verification of eligibility for taxpayer-subsidized insurance affordability credits for individuals who choose to buy private insurance. Without such a provision, there is nothing in the bill to prevent illegal aliens from receiving the subsidy to buy private insurance.

    All of the Democratic members of the House drafting committee voted against, and defeated, proposed amendments to the bill that would have included enforcement tools to prevent illegal aliens from receiving health-care benefits. That certainly will not help to reduce health-care costs–supposedly, a major aim of the legislation.

    Section 246 of the House bill that seems not to allow illegal aliens to receive benefits is actually meaningless since the bill contains no means for enforcement. Its apparent purpose is to give the Congress something with which to deceive the public. The problem is not that nothing in the bill would “allow” illegal aliens to participate; it’s that there’s nothing to prevent their participation.
    If the bill offered is really worthwhile, the President and legislators shouldn’t have to cover up its shortcomings with such disingenuous flimflam.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:45 am |
  105. Shirley Hogan Ellijay, Ga.

    Yes, I think this has gone too far. All this argueing and bickering and now " heckling" The President of The United States of America. I think this is a disgrace and a shame. I do not care what issue that the country has going on, there is a certain protocol that all American citizens should abide by as being Americans living here in the United States,and calling The President of The United States a liar has gone too far. Our country was founded on a certain way of doing things and this is known as democracy. The leader is elected by the majority of the vote and whether you like The President or whether you agree with his views and issues you as an American citizen should respect our leader. This is unacceptable for a member of congress to act this way. Even the way the country acted over the President giving a speech to the school children.There never should have been a controversy over this speech the way it was. Some Americans should be ashamed. Stand behind our President and the country we live in to make this nation stronger is my opinion as an American citizen. Also there needs to be something done about the healthcare situation. I am a nurse and have been one since 1972.It hurts me to see the elderly in this country to have to choose if they are going to get groceries to eat or buy the medication that they need to keep them well. Which would you choose if you had to choose between the two? This is the way it is for a lot of patients. They do not have the money to buy the medication they need. This is a shame. =

    September 10, 2009 at 11:45 am |
  106. Larry Hartweg

    The 2009 healthcare proposals do not explicitly provide healthcare for undocumented, illegal alien criminals, BUT . . .

    Fraud and abuse are rampant in federal healthcare today

    Obama wants to give amenesty to illegal aliens – Democrats need the support of these criminals to stay in office

    California is bankrupt today because of the high cost of supporting criminal aliens – The majority of Californians voted for Prop 187 to block services to illegal aliens, but the federal government FORCES billions in benefits to these criminals.

    Larry in California

    The U.S. House Of Representatives voted to use Homeland Security’s popular, effective, EVerify system to ensure that benefit receivers are legal residents, but the super-corrupt 2009 Senate leaders refused to allow EVerify (Amendment 165 to H.R. 1), which allows illegal aliens to fraudulently receive benefits they are NOT entitled to.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:45 am |
  107. Thomas Doran

    Healthcare reform has been needed in this country for quite some time. I know that my co-pays have gone up 50% over the last few years. I went from no deductible to a $2,500 deductible and my wife's company has cut what they are willing to pay and passed the cost on to us. How many more squeezes can you get out of one orange? Do we need to talk about the 46 million people in this country that have no coverage whatsoever? While I would prefer a single payer system, I understand that we will probably need to take this in small steps instead of giant leaps. Let’s start by getting everyone covered while protecting the rights of people that already have insurance by restricting pre-existing conditions.

    As far as the battle between the Democrats and Republicans go, I was very happy to hear that President Obama said that, "The time for games has ended." It is time for both sides to put their heads together and stop putting themselves ahead of the needs of the American people. Heckling the President like you are in the bleacher seats at Citizen's Bank Park does nothing to help both sides come together; it only helps to tears things apart even more. Mr. Wilson, how is someone supposed to teach their children to respect their parents, teachers and other figures of authority when we as an adult cannot control ourselves in front of the President of the United States?!??!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:45 am |
  108. JPK

    Way too far! Congress should focus on "change we ALL can believe in" not all the political lies.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:46 am |
  109. Jean

    Unemployment is a world-wide problem. Those businesses which outsource jobs and send them to places as India, Phillipines, Costa Rica to name a few have made the US unemployment situation worst. Is there any government who can ever rectify the unemployment situation and increasing unemployment without "stimulus money?"
    Those who are angry with President Obama about this increasing unemployment should offer their views on how to decrease and eliminate unemployment. Let us hear what they have to say and what is their solution to this world-wide unemployment dilemma.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:46 am |
  110. Eddie

    Typical Republican mentality. Unpatriotic behavior unbecoming of a "Congress Member". It tells us that even uncouth ignoramuses can be elected to Congress. When will America learn the extreme hypocrisy behind the Republican agenda. We claim home values and moral highgrounds as our virtue. The records prove that these are the scum of the earth. Makes you wonder.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:46 am |
  111. Kayla

    The GOP has scared weak people into thinking that health care reform is somehow going to hurt them.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:47 am |
  112. Rebecca

    We're sick of having to put up with the big-mouthed bullies at the Town Hall meetings. "Debating" is one thing but this obnoxious, thug-like behavior is out of control & so destructive to our nation. Wilson's disrespect for his elected position was made so obvious. But the total disrespect shown to the President of the United States is intolerable! Wilson is an embarrassment to not only himself but to all of us, as a nation. I cringe when thinking how we have just been represented to the World by his vile behavior.
    If the bickering & childish behavior doesn't soon cease, I am afraid we will be having another Civil War. And with that, "United We Stand; Divided We Fall." Have we learned nothing from 9/11???!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:48 am |
  113. Tom Nguyen

    Mr Joe Wilson certainly demonstrated his lack of civil leadership last night. I rather have my children listen to President Obama's speech than showing them Mr Joe Wilson's conduct.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:48 am |
  114. William Sandage

    there is much to do about Joe Wilson's comments to the President durring his speach. However just yesterday i read that there is $30 billion that will go to illegal aliens health care so did the president lie or not. If he did then he owes Joe Wilson as well as the american people an appology! So far I feel that the president has humiliated the americans in this country.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:49 am |
  115. Steve in FL

    What happened last night is just proof that too many Americans (including Congressmen) are acting upon emotion and not factual debate when it comes to today's political issues. I doubt that Cong. Joe Wilson has the read the bill in full... and is speaking based upon what his colleagues are telling him is truth. We will not have gone too far until this broken system is fixed.

    I am proud that my President is standing firm on what he believes is right. I'm proud that while he is standing his ground, he is willing to discuss ideas from the right that may benefit the Health Care Reform efforts. I am proud that the President looks at his Approval Rating dropping (due to the efforts of liars and crooks), and continues to push for Health Care Reform now.

    I am disappointed that we have other Politicians that are still the puppets of power, money, and popularity. Please... stop the lies, and as the President said... let's have a good, honest debate about this... based on facts.

    I ask that the American people stop paying attention to the well veiled lies from both sides of the aisle... and encourage you to read the bill, and determine the facts contained within for yourself. Then you can make educated opinions that you can then bring to your local Congressman. This is the only way that the Health Care Reform that the PEOPLE want will get passed.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:50 am |
  116. Catherine -

    For those of us who are outraged over Mr. Wilson's outbursts, you can not email him at because his website is down today because of "exceptionally high traffic" "YOU BETCHA"

    September 10, 2009 at 11:51 am |
  117. Linda

    Oh my, as an ex-pat living in Canada, I am so embarrassed for my country! Joe Wilson is a disgrace and the State of South Carolina should be embarrassed about their representation in government. That state has serious issues with its politicians.

    I experienced healthcare in the U.S. for about half my life and for 30 years, socialized medicine in Canada. It works people! Is it perfect, no! I don't understand the fear except from the insurance companies and pharma companies, they should be fearful. It's time for everyone to have health care in the U.S.

    Our taxes maybe higher, but we still have big houses, drive BMW's, etc. don't be afraid, open your minds before you speak.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:51 am |
  118. keita

    As a congressman, did he really think children didn't see it on television?
    As a heckler what advice can he give to children how to express their opinion in front of millions peoples on tv and online.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  119. Joe

    Clark Howard is right on the mark! His proposal is real change.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  120. Joe

    p.s. I was moved to comment because of Wilon's base outburst !

    September 10, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  121. Sarah

    Joe Wilson, what a shame. Perhaps you should re-take a course of etiqutte manners.

    OR. Perhaps this is another one of the right wings tacts to distract the some people of what the President is really trying to do for ALL PEOPLE!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  122. L.D. Miller

    The outcome of debating too long, be it health care or any other subject, leads passion to surface and disrupt focus on the debate topic. Whatever happened to brain storming where all issues, good and bad, are placed on the board and an agreement reached on the most important things to resolve the problem?

    September 10, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  123. Larry Hartweg

    Joe Wilson's explanation of why he said that it was a LIE that the healthcare bills did not provide for illegal aliens, is documented fact. Democrats defeated attempts to verify that benefit receivers are legal residents. They need alien support to stay in office.



    September 10, 2009 at 11:54 am |
  124. Vic

    Disrespectful, childish & ignorant.
    His apology means was forced by "others".
    I just listend to his whys. Drivel

    September 10, 2009 at 11:55 am |
  125. Sarria

    Clark Howard hit the nail but, of course, that plan would not be acceptable to the communist who banks on the hypothesis that the people is stupid and someone else have to make the decisions for them.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:55 am |
  126. Davis Nguyen

    I think that we should help illegal immigrant if they get hurt in the U.S. because we can not watch anyone die without any help at all. Then, we should ship back to their main country for further treatment.

    Thanks Davis Nguyen

    September 10, 2009 at 11:55 am |
  127. AG

    I think this just shows the disrespect that some groups have for President Obama, who is clearly working with the best interest of the American people at heart. Every idea he has may not be the absolute best, but for folks to continue to spread the lies and pure disrespect for his administration is outragious.

    This is a very intelligent President who is trying to do well by the country. For those idiots with different agenda... get the heck out of the way.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:55 am |
  128. Poet E.L.Conrod

    In my earlier comment I referred to Joe Wilson as senator. My mistake. Rep. Joe Wilson, saying you're now sorry, "you lie."
    Peer and public pressure makes you cry sorry.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:56 am |
  129. L Dufour

    The Vehicle Insurance analogy holds true! The very rich drive expensive cars and purchase the best insurance. The middle class drive less expensive cars and purchase minimum insurance. The poor don't drive and don't get insurance. Wow just what healthcare is!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:56 am |
  130. Sarria

    Clark Howard hit the nail but, of course, that plan would not be acceptable to the communist who banks on the hypothesis that the people is stupid and someone else haS to make the decisions for them.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:56 am |
  131. Beatrice

    Don't tell me it wasn't planned! When are the Republicans going to stop insulting our intelligence!
    Trying to sound outraged????!!!! Trying to look like the angry people at the town hall meetings! Making Obama look suspicious??? ...the word evil comes to mind.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:56 am |
  132. L Bailes

    It would seem that a lot of the republicans have made it a point to try to degrade the President no matter what he does. What has happened to the respect for the office. It is one thing to debate and disagree on a bill. It is quite another to heckle and fabricate lies about the President's stance on healthcare. We need to work together to fix Healthcare before it's too late.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:57 am |
  133. Richard B.C. Canada

    Rep. Wilson should go back to illegal alien school to learn that after an all-inclusive American health care package is signed into law all illegal aliens will need to get their health care at hospital emergency rooms where they then can be healed humanely and deported to the country of their origin unless other immigration measures are adopted.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:57 am |
  134. armyvet79

    I was just listening to your segment with Clark Howard, now usually I agree with the tips he provides, but I must say his health care plan is a major step in the wrong direction, if I heard him correctly, he wants insurers to be more restrictive... question to him is, exactly how would that include MORE americans?

    He doesnt make sense!

    September 10, 2009 at 11:57 am |
  135. Over Opinionated

    Some people act as if government is suppose to be perfect. i wonder how many Republicans actually do what's best for the public. Too many people either don't have coverage or pay too much. Most Republicans do not benefit from most Republican policies. Especially the ones from the previous administration. It's funny how republican had no complaints when Bush was in office.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:58 am |
  136. ensign cantor baucus

    I'm very vocal where my loyalty lies. I'm very well taken cared of – by the health insurance industry. I would rather surrender my seat here in congress than lose the funds gushing into my family and friends coffers.

    I can easily switch to be a lobbyist. There are many friends in congress who would take my offers as gifts of friendship. This is the best kind of addiction. This is the camaraderie in the Hill. Very real generosity abounds. Without flinching or batting an eyelash any of my friends can discretely hand me envelops of cash. I do share it around with my friends.

    I ( family included) would rather die in affluence than in poverty.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:59 am |
  137. Scott Stodden

    Yes of course Tony it has gone to far, I said this along time ago. I felt that Congressman Joe Wilson and the Republican Party were all disrespectful and so out of touch with America. First I saw Republican Congressmen and Women sitting and not standing during the speech, John Boehner lookin cocky as ever, and then the disrespect from Joe Wilson shouting out "You Lie" while my President is speaking, The Republican's proved they have not changed, they are the party of hate, racism & fear mongers. To every Republican out there and not just in Washington let me say My President is black, get over it. President Obama has done nothing but try to fix our country from the mess Republican's got us into. Healthcare is so important and we need reform the way the President told us in his speech last night. President Obama I love you and First Lady Michelle so much, I pray that real reform does happen and that Republicans can join with Democrats and bring real healthcare reform to the country. Now is the time to get serious America.

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    September 10, 2009 at 11:59 am |
  138. Sue Smith

    It's time now to do the work our forefathers left us as their legacy of responsibility. Republicans must forgive themselves of missed opportunities in the past and check the resentments they feel. And Democrats, particularly the President, must stop and listen and continue to blend good workable ideas from all sectors. We can all win, but it requires maturity. Lets make it so.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:59 am |
  139. Luis Grana

    Of course the plan does not include the illegal aliens but what you don't say is that next year, 20 million illegal aliens will be legalized by this socialist government and therefore all of them will be included on the "public plan"

    September 10, 2009 at 12:00 pm |
  140. Ryan in New York

    President Obama's plan is more humane and realistic than what Mr. Clarke just proposed on CNN. President Obama REQUIRES health insurance for all CITIZENS, like auto insurance currently is required for drivers. This provision directly addresses the reality that some young healthy people and some poor people will always try to "cheat the system" by going without health insurance. Mr. Clarke's plan would simply not allow those people who don't have insurance and get sick or injured to not get insurance for a few months?!!! THIS IS REALLY REALLY STUPID. Does anyone realize that this solves nothing? If these people get sick and begin to die or go to the emergency room AMERICANS STILL PAY FOR THEIR CARE INDIRECTLY. Not to mention the alternative, which is that they don't receive care at all during a "waiting period" after they get sick IS INHUMANE.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:00 pm |
  141. Davis Nguyen

    I think that we should help illegal immigrant if they get hurt in the U.S. because we can not watch anyone die without any help at all. Then, we should ship them back to their main country for further treatment.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:00 pm |
  142. Robin Westfall, Carp Lake, MI

    Unfortunately, the poor behavior exhibited by opponents to President Obama's call for health care reform at town hall meetings around the country this past month has reared its ugly head before a joint session of Congress–while the President was speaking last night.

    For some reason, those with an opposing POV have determined that this issue will be decided by those who can shout the loudest. It's time for supporters to stand strong and resolute; we must not allow discourteous extremists to frighten and intimidate the American people any longer.

    Representative Wilson will forever be remembered for how ugly our manners have become–and for allowing the citizens of the United States to finally see through such shameful tactics.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:00 pm |
  143. Christine McCoy-Morton

    I must say that President Obama does not have the support of many Americans when decisions are made that they disagree with. Since his election we all know what the Big Picture is. "He's a Black Man come on, we all know he will never get the respect he deserves as President of the United States, as others have in the past!I understand that many will reframe from using this reason for their oppositions on almost anything he does or has did since he took office. all I have witnessed since he took office are complaints, complaints and complaints! I think its a shame that he cant get the support as President of The United States that he rightfully deserve. In the past you would not find a member of congress yelling out such words at the Persident! talk about disrespect! President Obama has not had the chace from the start, someone will always find a reason to put him down. And it is not all about the decisions he's trying to make, it's because He's Black and so many are and will always be in opposition of that fact! If everyone wanted to work with him in a civil manner they would, but they will purposely make it hard for him because of his race. Yea, say what you will it's racial and it will continue to be racial! Stop throwing stones and get behind him and give our President the respect due him. Every time I turn on the TV there is nothing positive to hear about him!
    President Obama; I applaud your efforts!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:01 pm |
  144. Susan Cole

    Strangely, I'm somewhat appreciative of Joe Wilson...he has really seemed to bring people from all sides of political debates together in agreement over his level of inappropriateness. Perhaps this will spur a renewed focus on respect and common sense vs. rightousness and rudeness.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:01 pm |
  145. Akinsola

    Cong. Wilson has only come out to express his bitterness over the fact that " Obama " is the president. To disrespect the President of the greatest contry in the world by a citizen of that country is a big shame.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:01 pm |
  146. Texan

    I believe Joe Wilson should be severely reprimanded for his outburst and for the words he used towards our President. It is one thing to disagree and completely different to call the President a liar in a nationally and internationally viewed session. It is absolutely no way for a Congressman or Senator or for that matter any citizen to act in such an august forum as the Joint session of Congress or for that matter any forum, when speaking to the President of the country. I am completely disappointed with his behavior. I am happy to note that atleast some of the senior GOP leaders did admonise Joe Wilson.

    For the benefit of the country, the press may want to close out this unfortunate incident.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:02 pm |
  147. Malcolm

    I have learned a long time ago that we respect the office of the President of the United States, even if you do not agree with the person in the office. I think it is sad that many Americans have no respect for the office. We have seen people compare Bush and Obama as Hitler, armed citizens at Presidential events, and now a member of the House heckled the President while he was addressing the House and the Senate. SAD SAD SAD!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  148. George Cooper Jr.

    Not even during the Watergate hearings, where the President (Nixon)was actually proven to be a liar about his connection to the break-in, was any of the type of contempt demonstrated by Joe Wilson last night during the President's (Obama) speech, shown to the nation's highest office.
    I'm convinced that if our President had been of Anglo descent, this type of outburst would never have happened.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  149. KIC

    So, illegals shouldn't even be able to *purchase* coverage in an exchange? What kind of barbarians ARE we if that is a true belief?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  150. Barbara

    Joe Wilson's news conference does not excuse the fact he disrespected the President. There is NO excuse for his behavior and No excuse to allow the Republicans to undermind the President with there "address" to the Country following the President's address.... Republicans are not that important.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  151. Alan

    I was disappointed to see so much air time given to Clark Howard and his plan. Do you really think the insurance companies are going to give up gouging the public for profit?
    America needs to grow up and be socially responsible and live up to the religious ideals the right wing likes to promote for their own political gain.
    I wish you would give as much time to the plans in other industrialized countries so we can see how they function. It would be educational and might help raise the level of competence in the debate.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  152. A. Proctor


    Mr. Joe Wilson, how embarrassed and immature he must (at least should) feel today. I agree with the Democratic leadership, unlike the Republicans, we need to move on and not get distracted with this foolishness. I do wonder if the Republicans (not all Republicans...I hope) ever learn from their mistakes. Individuals that complained about young people hearing our President express the importance of being your best self, then having one of their own model, what, behavior that would inspire the young people. Let’s stop the madness, please.

    I continue to be amazed at individuals that represent their constituents (some with appropriate health care and some with absolutely nothing) could continue to be so self serving. They have amazing health care (insurance) so, why should they take a humanitarian approach and think about others? I am so ashamed of this behavior; ashamed especially for our youngest citizens. It is most disturbing that they (young people) have been and continue to be subjected to such unintelligent; hateful and self centered behavior and lies.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
  153. Robyn

    I am increasingly becoming dissapointed in how many have reacted to the President in general. Bush was a polorizing figure due to what many thought that he "stole" the election and the few critics who opposed the Iraq war-which those opponents were deemed as "unAmerican" -You argree with me or we will ostracize you.
    However, the disagreements my thought that with this particular president, the uproar is a little deeper and little uglier. The uproar has more to do with President Obama versus healthcare itself. Many may balk at my words, but their may be some who would rather see the majority suffer (go with out healthcare reform) than allowing the President to "win". Time out for politics or may be something worst and do what is right!!!

    Healthcare for all is a wonderful option for every American citizen. Iraqis if I am not mistakened have universal healthcare and we are helping to pay the bill for them so why are we not worthy enough and care for our own to do the same for every American? I believe that both Democrats and Republicans should put behind their politcal differences or other differences and stand up for the rights of Americans for which we have placed them in positon to do so. Stop using me as a pawn in your game and once again do your job politicians!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
  154. Geoff

    Joe Wilson needs to make a public apology because he made a huge huge and completely disrespectful blunder, period. I need to hear this from him directly. This is the President of The United States for god's sake and I think once he apologizes, we can go on.

    This has gone entirely too far. I am concerned that you guys in the media are covering so much of the far far right sensationalism (with all of the "he's a terrorist', "he's a socialist", "he's a brainwasher", and now "he's a liar" erroneous accusations) that people are starting to get a bit skewed in their thinking and wondering if this crap might warrant a bit of consideration...even those of us who don't believe it.

    Please, the man is not a terrorist, a socialist, a brainwasher or a liar. This is not a sci-fi special and our country has enough intelligence to catch any of these things if it were true. We are not cavemen in our country. He is not a mad scientist taking over the world and I truly believe that as good Americans, opponents themselves should be stamping out this type of faulty and diswaying behavior in the public rather than sitting quietly and letting it take on a life for political agenda-sake.

    It truly is the time to start getting much much more academic and thoughtful about our lives as Americans (all of us) rather than fostering lynch mobs that will produce nothing more than hate and a lack of progress...and media attention in a completely non-productive direction.

    John McCain squelched it down himself in the presidential campaign when people were calling Obama a terrorist, and I know that many people, even those who were opposed to him becoming president developed a great or greater respect for the man.

    I urge opponents who want a change but do not believe in Obama's plan to speak up finally and correct some of the erroneous information out there so we can start having healthy conflict that may end up in resolution and reform as soon as possible.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
  155. Marilyn

    Who is Joe Wilson's opponent? I think I might like to donate to his campaign also, and I'm not even a resident of his state. Such unruly, disrespectful, uncontrollable, "SPONTANEOUS" behavior does not have a place in town hall meetings, much less the chambers of the United States congress. I hope they are calling for his resignation.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    can someone tellme (7) positive things that president obama has done for this country since taking office? just (7) ?? anybody!!! no wonder we have outrage in our political offices....he has done nothing positive for any of us..........stimulus package? what a joke.......!! now, ill name (7) things we all need to be concerned about ,,,,...............(1)obama's first call to any head of state was to Mahmoud Abbas..leader of the Fatah party in the palestinian territory..(2)his first live one on one tv interview was with any news organization was with Al Arabia TV....(3) CLOSE GITMO BAY ..AND HALT ALL TRIALS OF TERRORISTS BEING HELD THERE...(4)close all cia interrogation offices (5)withdraw all charges against masterminds associated w/ the uss cole attack and 9/11 (6)allow thousands of palestinian refugees tomove to the u.s. at tax payer expense.....(7)to fund and facilitate abortions in the u.s. and abroad using tax payers money.....NOW TELL ME WHY SEN WILSON DISRESPECTED THE PRESIDENT...!! HEALTH CARE...WHAT A JOKE .........GOD HELP US....AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA......this great country is falling in front of president obama's hand........why arent more americans lashing out????its far worse than just health care !!!! TY...

    September 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm |
  157. Jennifer Maxwerll

    Rep. Wilson as well as Lou Dobbs and plenty of others speak of “illegal aliens” as if they were a stray dog population. The majority of these people work very hard for very little and are for the most part invisible. To ignore their care because they have broken an immigration law is ridiculous. Americans afford care to even our incarcerated populations. It does not benefit the public health at all to ignore a fringe section of it. It does, in fact, assure that when preventative measures are withheld from the least among us, we will all be put at risk.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm |
  158. Linda Minier


    Where is the DECORUM, where is the RESPECT, where is the STATESMANSHIP we are so longing for.

    I have listened to many states of the union or other speeches even as a child and have never seen anything like this. I really think it is a racial issue as well. Did Representative Wilson show us what he really thinks about the President or was it a slip of the tongue, you decide? I don't think he will be able to apologize his way through this, I think he is acting like Sarah Palin. Did Mr. Wilson take a lesson from those coached folks at the town halls? What would Emily Post say? The Republican leadership TOLD him to call the White House, can he think for himself? Come on, health care is a moral issue, illegal immigrants will end up in the ER anyway.
    The voters in South Carolina have much to ponder before the next election. I think Mr. Wilson needs to do public service in an inner city homeless shelter or better yet an ER in an inner city.

    We sat through the last 8 years of absolute stupidity and maintained our decorum while getting bamboozled into believing that the Iraq War was justified.

    Oh, how we long for the statesmanship of the likes of Washington, Jefferson, the Adams' the Roosevelts', Lincoln and Kennedy.

    As a child of European immigrant parents, who were born at the turn of the century, I long for the dreams and respect they had for this country.
    God bless America!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm |
  159. Deborah Lawrence

    Things have definitely gone too far. The blatent disrespect exhibited by Republican House member Joe Wilson during President Obama's health-care reform speech to Congress last night is inexcuseable and should be an embarrassment to the Republican party. However, Joe Wilson's rude outburst is a prime example of the type behavior that is unfortunately becoming all too common at public meetings. The lack of courtesy given to the President shows not only disrespect for President Obama as an individual and speaker, but also for the esteemed office he holds as leader of this country. We need to realize that Mr. Obama did not make the mess the country is in now, and if we will not show support for him and his endeavors to recitify the problems, we can at least show respect for the office he holds.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm |
  160. Concerned

    Civility has to start with the leaders of our country. They are held to a higher standard. Obviously, Cong. Wilson is not a good example to our children. The disrespect for our President whether you agree with him or not is unacceptable. We need civil discourse. It is no wonder that most of the shouting and unruly disruptions at the townhall meetings are caused by Republicans because their leaders behave badly and so they are encouraged to also behave badly.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:09 pm |
  161. Frostberrii

    This Wilson fellow is just psycho. His locals describe a vapid man who has been obnoxious for years. Its heartbreaking what has happened to our country with people like him in leadership.
    Off topic: Y is CNN constantly broadcasting the babblings of these psychos. We heard this disinformation from Cantor for months.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:09 pm |
  162. felicia

    When you disrepect the president of the United States of America you have crossed the line. I have Aetna Insurance and I hate it, I wish you would talk to real people instead of talking heads who are paid for talking about these problems. The first thing that was reported last night was the statement "you lie" so that tells me that you have come to the meeting with a negative attitude already, so nothng will get resolved. Lets join other countries and catch up, we are fallling further and further behind, and closer and closer to....

    September 10, 2009 at 12:09 pm |
  163. C. Clay

    I feel this has gone to for, to allow individual to talk to the commander and Chief like this. This is an outrage, she should have been cast from his seat after making a statement like that. If it had been anyoneelse, the radio host and the political machines would be up in arms, about such a disrespectful act. If he make little simple things everyone want to bring out the dogs and crucify him at the drop of a hat.

    We pick and choose the one's to support and come after, fair is fair, when are we going to get there. The Senate and Congress refuse to support the people and our well being and not their own. Stop worrying about who is in the Presidential seat and start to do what is best for the country and it's people.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:10 pm |
  164. Eddie

    Typical Republican mentality. Unpatriotic behavior unbecoming of a "Congress Member". It tells us that even uncouth ignoramuses can be elected to United States Congress by their think-alikes. It is problematic for improper upbringing and unschooled ignoramuses to gain proper social etiquettes. When will America learn the extreme hypocrisy and regressivism behind the Republican agenda. We claim ownership of "home values and moral highgrounds" as our virtues. The records prove that with our hypocritical partisan ideologies, we are mostly the scum of the earth. Makes you wonder.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:11 pm |
  165. Mark from Boston

    Very much so.

    All the "name calling" and divisiveness on both sides is why we face a prolonged recession despite what "Helicopter Ben" and the rest of the comic book characters say.

    The S&P rises 38% from the lows after the latest trillions of dollars in stimulus and people see that as a sign "Happy Days" are here again. Yet, the fact the dollar is down 16 % from it's highs or that the average citizen has been hijacked by Wall Street appears to be irrelevant, and what insurance companies are doing is nothing short of a terrorist attack. As a country, we can't even come to a consensus on whether we want out children to listen to a motivational speech from the President. Soon when over 10 million Americans run out of unemployment benefits and become violently desperate and we're all paying $4 for one apple maybe we'll learn a valuable lesson.

    So, it all depends on your perspective. Have we gone too far?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:11 pm |
  166. John

    Tony, please stop the insanity and air the truth. We speak english in this country. He called the president a liar.'You're a liar'. The entire news media is acting as if we don't speak english in this countryThis is an elected official who has no respect for an elected president. Should we then not have any respect for his office.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  167. Shag

    Eric Cantor and the Republicans have done nothing but attempt to sabotage the presidents efforts on healthcare reform. I have seem them repeatedly defend the obnoxious behavior at the townhall meetings.
    Sen. DeMint openly spoke about this being the presidents "Waterloo," Sen. Grassley defended the "death panel" crap, and on and on. So for them to talk about the presidents not negotiating with the Republicans is absurd.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  168. tessie

    I think it's fantastic how much money Mr. Wilson's opponent has raised just since last night!!! :-O Zow!

    Not only was Wilson disrespectful, but his outburst could lead to his loss in the next election. The man has no place in politics!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  169. alexlyrics

    What a disrespectful southern racist person Joe Wilson is. I would hope that he is voted out of office.
    Secondly, every republican who has spoken sense that speech has repeated nothing but the same points that both democrat, and republicans agree on.
    Republicans are repeating the parts of the bill that everyone agrees on, and not one has mentioned compromise, or an attempt to work with on the points that they don't agree on.

    Lobbyist has clearly paid off Republicans.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:13 pm |
  170. Ted

    Its pretty sad to see the lack of repsect for the presidency this, was a very disrespectful act by the Republicans.

    Furthermore I felt it was equally disrespectful to watch Eric Cantor the minority whip ignoring the speech and reading his blackberry during the address by the president.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:13 pm |
  171. John

    Joe wilson went way too far.

    Eric Cantor says he doesn't want a government bureaucrat between physicians and patients (which was never in legislation anyway) yet he said nothing about having insurance company bureaucrats between physicians and patients as occurs right now. It seems he doesn't mind insurance companies interfering with physicians and patients.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:16 pm |
  172. Patricia

    It's overwhelming, the lack of respect I saw during the Presidents speech. Not only was Mr. Wilson yelling but Mr. Cantor ( The minority whip) was siting in the front row texting. I'm so disgusted.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:18 pm |
  173. Canam

    Joe Wilson is a HERO. I expect the State Controlled Media to leap all over him, but FOXNEWSCHANNEL?????? Obama is a Liar and a traitor. He is too stupid to even understand the difference between insurance and a cost payment pool. America and Lady Liberty are hiding their faces in SHAME. We need a new President! NOW!!!!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:18 pm |
  174. Sheilah

    I was horrified and sickened by the lack of respect shown to our President last night in the House Chamber. Not only by Rep. Idiot from South Carolina but all the other Yahoos around him that sat their defiantly staring forward like a bunch of idiots. You all know who you are and that big mouth woman talking constantly throughout the speech and some twittering and texting while our President was doing his best to explain to the American people how important this reform is to ALL AMERICANS. I did not see my own Representative in the group but I did see my Senator and he was conducting himself like a gentleman and he too is a Republican that has a very different opinion on a lot of the Presidents agenda but he is a gentleman first. I have a new sense of respect for him. Regardless of your party affiliation and wether you voted for him or not President Obama is our President and he deserves all of our respect. I have been sickened by these idiots at the town hall meetings with their hate mongering and ignorance. Enough is enough. Get informed American if you do not understand write to your congressman or congresswoman and ask for information don't believe what the hate mongers on Fox and other talk radio shows tell you THEY LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:18 pm |
  175. Jean-Pierre

    I thought President Obama did a good job yesterday before the Congress. He well explained his plan and I do believe that the Congress will move forward to come up with a bipartisan plan. But Rep Wilson attitude shocked everyone. It proves that he never respect the institution he represents and his constituents. Apologize for that is not enough, he has to simply resigne.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm |
  176. Phyllis Goeke

    Tony: The president explained in his speech that government would not get between the patient and the doctor. Republican spokesman on your programthis morning said the same thing. It would seem then, that should my doctor and I decide that I will need an abortion, it will be covered under my plan, whether it is a private plan or the government option. Can't have it both ways, gentlemen!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm |
  177. gayle novacek

    It is my view that Rep. Joe Wilson should be censured by Congress and made to retire from the House of Representatives. The invective we witness from the radical right is totally out of control. I wonder if he was given some directive to give this outburst by the leaders of the RNC. Perhaps this would be a good investigative assignment for a young, eager reporter.

    We need to return to civility in this country. I believe the internet and the ambiguity it allows has changed our society for the worse. We should all respect the office of the President of the United States who was elected by a majority of the people of this country and support him in his efforts to better the country for all.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:20 pm |
  178. Billy Mitchell

    AMERICANS ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN’S HEALTHCARE NOW, TODAY. When I get sick I go to my doctor’s office at a cost of $50. When an illegal alien gets sick (cold, flu, etc…) they go the hospital emergency room at a cost of $1,000 and up. Why? Because the taxpayer on the city or county level pays for this alien’s emergency room visit. It is free for the illegal alien. This is going on today, right now.
    Billy Mitchell
    Crawford, Texas
    (254) 486-0044

    September 10, 2009 at 12:21 pm |
  179. Ollie G.

    I agree Joe Wilson should be banned from Congress. This was not some press conference or informal meeting. This was a meeting before the nation and a Presidential address, if the Congressman does not know how to act properly and respectful under those circumstances then he should be relinquished of his duties for he does not know how to perform them. You cannot say that he was acting in the heat of the moment for that is not an excuse. As far as I am concerned him and his party acted with such disregard to the President of the United States it is no wonder why we have gotten nothing accomplished. I don't recall any of these tactics being used by the Dems during Bush's eight year reign. Therefore this behavior should not be tolerated by the American People!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:22 pm |
  180. Wakefield Travers

    Its pretty bad that lobbyists are already lining up in congress to puppet these politicians

    September 10, 2009 at 12:22 pm |
  181. Eileen, Virginia

    I am completely disgusted! First of all Joe Miller behavior shamed himself, his office and the people of South Carolina. He should not get off with an apology.

    Second of all, he is not really sorry and he is still lying about the immigrant issue. Even HR 3200 specifically prohibits federal subsidy of health insurance.

    The Republican proposal he is referring to would PROHIBIT people from purchasing private health insurance and would add documentation requirements that would actually keep eligible citizens from applying for coverage. Look it up and don't let them get away with it.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:25 pm |
  182. k

    a bunch of hyperbole lacking any substance. i was very disappointed in wilson's lack of class until i watched the speech and saw barak call his opponents liars just prior to the wilson outburst. after that, i was not as offended.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:26 pm |
  183. Yvette H

    Joe Wilson has shown his true colors and further stigmatized the reputation of South Carolina reluctance to move forward and rid itself of racism. I believe It is not the office of the Presidency that Wilson showed lack of respect , but rather for the person that holds the office. Never before has so much disrespect been given to previous Presidents during a speech to Congress..but get the first African American in office and he can't show some restraint... Like I said your true colors are showing!!!!

    Republicans quit trying to do everything you can to hinder progress just because you can't handle change. Think of the America first ... we NEED health reform!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:26 pm |
  184. Sulaiman

    I was very astounded with the way Representive Joe Wilson behaved in that horable chamber last night when he shouted above his voice calling the president remark, " you lie". I think this is a serious mistake and disgrace to that honorable chamber and our democracy. When people like Rep.Wison by virtue of his position who obviously suppose to be in the vanguard to illuminate the candle of moral standard for future generation like ours and those to come, allowed himself to be consumed by emotion that have discredited him for ever. No amound of apology can heal this damage. What explanation will Rep.Wilson give his son or grand son who was watching last night; I'm sure they will all be shocked at his displayed. At the end of this all what legacy are we suppose to be certainly leaving behind? I'm really scared.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:28 pm |
  185. Elizabeth 39

    How is that a lie, when he is simply informing the public, of what we NEED!
    Change is evident.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:28 pm |
  186. Katherine

    It just shows the total lack of respect that has been shown to President Obama throughout his entire tenure. It's a shame that trying to help everyone in the United States have the ability to receive proper health care is upsetting so many. I just don't understand.... We can't fix anything if we don't first try. Instead of people tearing down what he is trying to achieve everyone needs to get behind this and try to make it work. How effective is the system that we have now? There are billions of dollars being made by insurance companies, politicians and pharmaceutical companies and nothing to the ones that need it.. US! Greed is destroying America....

    September 10, 2009 at 12:28 pm |
  187. annie

    why does CNN allow repub guests to dominate the conversation? are they afraid to set limits and anger repubs? what's that all about?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:30 pm |
  188. Phyllis G.

    Re: Joe Wilson. It is sad to see a Congressman respond in such a way during what should have been an opportunity to gather more complete information about the health care issue. His reaction was not unlike what we heard at the town meetings coming from the uninformed, based on the misinformation and the propaganda of the right-wing-nuts and the insurance industry shills. The difference? He should be well informed. He was elected with that expectation, and had he done his homework, he would have had the answers before he had the questions. Should that have been the case, such an outburst would not have been forthcoming..........

    September 10, 2009 at 12:33 pm |
  189. Ted Pollard

    I am so ashamed of the senator from SC. because I'm from SC. I have never seen such disrespect in my life to a President , there is a time and place for all disagreement, but a joint section of congress was not one of them. In America if you disagree what a President in a joint section of congress you sit down ,you don't applaud, but you never do childish out bust. and hechel the President What I would like to know is were do I send money to get this man away from Washington? and back under his sheets.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:34 pm |
  190. Robert Coates

    Regarding comment from Rep Wilson explaining " I received call from leadership and they advised me to call White House".....Its one thing for mommy to MAKE me say I'm sorry and another for me to realize what I did was wrong and say it without her telling me too. Doubtful it was his conscience telling him to do so........

    September 10, 2009 at 12:37 pm |
  191. Randy N

    This is not good for the American public. This goverment is forcing US to use their services so that WE the PEOPLE will be dependent on them to keep US healthy, What's next? We are test animals for whatever they want to make up. Ok say this is a good health plan. How are We going to pay for it? This goverment is killing US, We are starving. Revolt is emminet . As well as I speak and all I won't be able to stop it, so I guess I will join in. So when war erupts in this country you can say I wish we had helped the people.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:39 pm |
  192. Cathy

    Why don't they talk about the government insurance "Tricare" that takes care of employees, military, etc? I understand that it's an outstanding insurance. Couldn't it be the "public" option or who provides it?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:39 pm |
  193. Deb

    Has the debate gone over the edge?? Dear heavenly days......
    What has happened to dignity and character?
    The Republican party used to be intelligent, conservative. But they have degenerated into a mob, catering to the uneducated, and spewing hatred. Don't they have a reasonable voice among them who can inspire their party to act in a more mature fashion????

    September 10, 2009 at 12:40 pm |
  194. Jeremy,Kalispell,MT

    Im not surprised! Does anyone consider how much money we would not be wasting if everyone without money or free insurance didnt have to go to the emergency room? Even the low income individuals still go to the emergency room because some health plans dont charge a deductible if you go to the ER. Then the insurance company has to pay more for the treatment. HMMMM! And furthermore its kinda weird how people like my white middle class semi wealthy parents who both came from decent money and got a college education dont want to spend their hard earned money on special interest until it is being spent on their drug addicted son who has PTSD from being in war! Now its OK in their minds for his daughter who has a mother and step father that make around 100k per year to recieve social security and also another unclaimed child will get benefits too. He will also get benefits forever. If he was black or native american then they would care about that special interest. Why dont we care about everyone? Wouldnt everything be alot better if nobody had to go without help? Try to walk in the shoes of someone who never got a chance and see who you want to help!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:41 pm |
  195. Mike

    Remember that old post office They just sold?Buy it back retro fit it,and use it for the new HomeLandSercurity offices instead of building a new at 3.4 BIL . Just a thought.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:43 pm |
  196. Mary Beth

    The debate is healthy, but Mr. Wilson's outburst was completely irreprehensible and demonstrative of his disrespect for the office of the President of the United States – especially in that setting. Had he behaved in such a manner during a military briefing, he would have been escorted from the immediately premises and likely Court Martialed for insubordination. While our country protects the right to Free Speech, the Congressional Chambers certainly have behavioral protocols – and certainly during a Presidential address on national, primetime television.
    South Carolina needs to tender Mr. Wilson's immediate resignation. If the man behaves like that in a formal, civil setting, can you imagine how he behaves in committee? His apology is inadequate. His public statement outside Senate Chambers today only further demonstrated his apology was out of duty and that he felt justified in his actions. Man – what's up with South Carolina's elected officials??

    September 10, 2009 at 12:44 pm |
  197. angie giancola

    He just doesnt like President Obama. This is personal.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:44 pm |
  198. Mike

    Thats money for Health Care Reform .

    September 10, 2009 at 12:46 pm |
  199. Dave L.

    It seems the Republicans are always looking to rewrite the constitution. So why don't we pass a bill that limits freedom of speech? Maybe then we can force them to shut their mouths
    and show some respect to the President of the United States when he is speaking. Joe Wilson is a disgrace!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:46 pm |
  200. Jerry Caplin

    The Congressional Research Service report in my last post should have been of 26 August 2009 rather than 25 August. Sorry for the typo.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:48 pm |
  201. Samuel

    Too far??? I don't feel that the real issues have been addressed. There seems to be a great fear of government control of health care. Why is it that America should feel comfortable with their health care issues being controlled by private insurance companies whose primary motive is profit? If the question is do we make America healthier, or insurance company pockets larger, which do you think is the best choice for Americans.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:49 pm |
  202. James Kelley

    Tony: enough reporting on the apology: why did the congressman say what he said? What makes him believe that the President is a liar?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:51 pm |
  203. Matthew Pease

    So to paraphrase, "the leadership told me to make the call". Does not sound to me like he's all that sorry. It was clear he was taken tot he woodshed by his own leadership, yet he still acts like a child struggling with the truth.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
  204. Bruce

    Illegal immigrants receive healthcare everyday in this country. Yours and my insurance premiums and tax dollars subsidize it.
    To say that illegals do not or will not in the future receive healthcare IS
    A LIE. If you believe otherwise you are VERY naive.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
  205. Deb

    ARGH! The rudeness, petulance, narrow-mindedness and the herds of "sheeple" who follow it all are making my blood pressure go through the roof! Hope my health care doesn't get cancelled...I'm gonna need it!

    September 10, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
  206. Poet E.L.Conrod


    I don’t think it has gone to far especially at the town hall meetings, afterall, this is why town hall meetings are held. We expect to hear disagreements and rants even anticipating some becoming very boisterous. However, when we have senators and congressmen/women and other politicians assembled, we expect quite the opposite. When the president is speaking in that type of format, regardless of how much one disagrees, he or she should contain themselves and wait for the interview afterwards which always comes. For Joe Wilson to shout out “you lie” was completely disrespectful and saying he’s sorry doesn’t subtract from his actions.
    Rep. Joe Wilson you now say you’re sorry, “you lie”. You’re not. This is a pressurized apology.


    September 10, 2009 at 12:53 pm |
  207. Lyle Brumley

    I just heard Christian Radio here in Colorado declaring that the democrats designing the health bill consider abortion part of "basic health service" even though the President declared abortion wouldn't be paid for with Federal money under his proposal.

    Can you sort this out?

    September 10, 2009 at 12:53 pm |
  208. Frostberrii

    In 50 minutes we've seen one babbling dem and five lying repubs. So sad.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  209. Chris from Savannah GA

    This guys is rediculous. He was completely out of control. Did he even know what he was shouting "Liar" for. This was just built up anger about the fact that the republicans are no longer ruining the country.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  210. Diane Y. Merchant

    Representative Wilson's outburst was a blatant act of disrespect and should be viewed as unacceptable behavior. How can we expect others to respect our President if we fail to do so? This has gone too far and we must immediately resort to proper decorum in such matters.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  211. Mike

    And this Wilson guy did just what oppisition of Reform needed to keep up the foolishness from this past summer.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  212. Chris Black

    This whole thing has gone too far. Americans voted for change in the presidential election. Virtually everyone says there is a problem with the current system. Most want change, as long as what they have does not change. Americans are so afraid of change that they will continue to do the same thing over and over and hope for a different outcome. People are miserable, but they know what to expect. The fear of the unknown is stifling the change we need.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm |
  213. John S.

    Despite Joe's appology... He simply hasn't heard the last on this one! You'd think that a person of his stature would have a lot more class?

    I am simply amazed at how in a nano-second you can open you mouth at the wrong time, say something rude and out of line, and cost yourself an entire career!

    Dumb more Mr. Wilson, a really dumb move!!!

    I'd suggest Joe that you start working on your resume'....

    September 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm |
  214. Frank

    Throughout this entire health care campaign I have yet to hear that along with malpractice, something needs to be done with all the TV attorneys, etc., who have certainly helped to drive up the cost of health care to begin with, isn't it strange that this group hasn't even been mentioned.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm |
  215. Dave

    Ironically Rep. Wilson has been writing op-eds spreading the "false" rumor that Obama wants to install “death panels”. I think Rep. Wilson is suffering from a simple case of projection. He is obviously portraying his character traits falsely onto others, in this case Obama.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm |
  216. Amy

    What does it tell you? These same guys who are defending the Medicare or social security benefit were against those bills couple of decades ago.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:57 pm |
  217. Tlane

    I am deeply disturbed by Rep. Joe Wilson's childish antics. It was not only rude to President Obama but Americans as a whole. An apology is not enough for his conduct. The world has witnessed our President being disrepected by an elected member of Congress. We have a long way to go if differences cannot be discussed civily. The President handled himself with grace and set another positive example for us.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:57 pm |
  218. Linda

    People who think Joe Wilson's inappropriate and rude outburst, was acceptable or makes excuses for him, have no idea of proper conduct expected of those who represent us.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:57 pm |
  219. Carla Cuthbertson

    Re: health care

    Internationally, the USA is noted for rescues and humanitarian support in crises. Often, the first on the scene. Why are the American people not being rescued and protected from unjust health and insurance practices? Why are there so many elected officials who do not support equivalent health care for their electorate...the very people who pay their salaries and healthcare? Why do they refuse to regulate insurance companies and medical fees to protect the security and stability of their electorate? Caveat emptor need not be an economic reality in a democratic nation. Capitalism and free enterprise does not mean an absence of rules, regulations and laws.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:58 pm |
  220. carol

    No it has not gone to far. And to be quite honest the Republicans have gone to far. The Democrats should vote for the reform without them.

    The Republicans displayed themself so rude & unprofessional last night who needs there vote. They completely embarrassed our country.

    September 10, 2009 at 12:58 pm |
  221. ER

    It is rather clear that the South Carolina GOP congressman doesn’t comprehends what he reads. Understanding what you read is taught in elementary school, perhaps he didn’t go to class on the rainy days. But then again, he is a republican, therefore I can understand. I’m just saying…

    September 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
  222. D Wallace

    The President did a great job last night and displayed his commitment to help the American People but the actions of that southern Congressman just shows you the deep seated hatred that he has for this President. This is what we have endured for years in the south. Immigrants work hard and is this the reason we have fresh fruit and vegetables noone else is going in the fields and work.


    September 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
  223. Jen

    The cry baby antics of the Repubs are getting old. We need real help and ideas, and I still have faith in our Prez. He can get it done .

    September 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
  224. Dave

    One of the main problems with the "health care" discussion is the confusion surrounding it. It may be deliberate but we hear that health care costs are "out of control" yet we discuss insurance costs rather than addressing the costs of the care. Almost all of the proposals we hear do NOT relate to actual health care.

    If the news media would force politicians and commentators to distinguish between health care and the insurance for that health care the discussion would greatly benefit.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:00 pm |
  225. Frank Nelson

    I was glad to see senator Wilson he should have. But, what about Cantor? He did not hesitate to criticize the President even though he was TEXTING during the speech! Can you text and drive? Can you text and LISTEN? Cantor is a fake, just like the majority of old Republicans out to get the president while ignoring the needs of the people. It is getting soooo tiring.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  226. Amy

    What does it tell you? These same guys who are defending now the Medicare or social security benefits were against those bills couple of decades ago.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  227. John Rodriguez

    Joe Wilson and The Party of NO, didn't mind supporting the trillion dollar war in iran, plus the thousands of lives lost, but when it comes to providing health care for all americans, he and the party of NO, are doing everything in thier power to sabotage health care reform. How did he get elected? Tell him it's a war and he'll support it. Tell him it's to help all americans and he and the party of NO will fight it!
    To the democrats, GO IT ALONE, get a backbone. The democrats won with a health care referendum. Do it already.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  228. Denise

    I was saddened to see Mr. Wilson show such a lack of respect. He is one of many that are reducing the Congress to a Jerry Springer show. What ever happened to having statesmen?

    September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  229. Sarah Matern

    If I lose my health care at work I will resign. If this health plan was not a scam we'd get what congress and the senate has and all the other federal employees. After I resign if my company takes away my insurance with the specifics I need then I will also move out of the county and there are millions like me.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  230. R. Jasek

    The problem is–bottom line–we are already paying for universal health care in the form of emergency room care for anyone–insured or not, illegal alien or not, drug addict or not, unwed mother or not, etc. etc.etc. ad infinitim. The real question should be, do we want to give people coverage to see their doctors for preventative medicine and maintenance or do we want to require them to have access only to the ER at a cost 5 to 1000 %+. I am a Christian, raised in the Methodist church, and believe that these folks who are shouting that we can't afford to take care of the illegal aliens are the same ones who claim to be part of the "religious right" and most likely turn a blind eye to businesses that hire illegals to save themselves bucks on wages and healthcare! I say you can't have it both ways, Jesus said " Love God and love your neighbor as yourself." How hard is that to understand? If the money is all they're worried about, remember we're all paying for it anyway by ER costs being passed on to all of us in increased healthcare costs and the only way to stop that is to either turn away "unworthies" from the ER, or stop businesses from making jobs available for illegals in the first place.

    My only other suggestion on healthcare is that instead of making lawsuits against doctors for malpractice illegal, doctors unite to refuse to buy malpractice insurance and post signs in their waiting rooms that they don't have malpractice insurance and will do their best to treat their patients as they would their own family members. This will cause lawyers to think twice before persuing a case that might be frivolous.

    THank you,
    R. Jasek

    September 10, 2009 at 1:02 pm |
  231. Thomas Tribble


    Congressman Wilson’s conduct was unbecoming of a statesman and should not be tolerated. I believe his apology was a shallow attempt too save his neck. He should be asked to step down; insulting the President during a State of the Union Address shows disrespect for the office of the President and for the individual holding that post. Is it that because we have an African-American President we should allow such behavior? I say no!!!! Let that congressman suffer the consequences of his actions and lose his post and political career…

    September 10, 2009 at 1:03 pm |
  232. C.A. Hobbs

    I hadn't noticed the Blackberry action by Rep. Cantor – ridiculous behavior!

    I don't know if it's even "politicizing" every single issue that is keeping these elected officials of both houses of Congress from accomplishing anything – maybe it's just all about Ego. Whatever it is, they are NOT doing their jobs!

    When they actually DO follow through and get something done (after playing all their games), they stand before the cameras to be congratulated on having done what they are paid to do!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:03 pm |
  233. Justin

    John Boehner should take his reports and instead of complaining about it to the media, he should call the white house and make an appointment with the president and do something about it. If I were to spend my energy and time complaining at my job, I would be fired!!! The president explicitly stated last night to take comments and concerns to his desk. Obviously the republicans whole approach is to continue to not work with the president and to continue their campaign to destroy the push at all costs.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:03 pm |
  234. azuh chuks okolie

    How could the Health Care be paid for, i will like to make some suggestions, if the Government public option is adopted. Firstly, by stopping the Military funding of Iraq and Aganistan wars, U.S government can save so many Millions of Dollars. Secondly, by cutting down the number of aids U.S Government gives out to other Countries, like the developing Countries in Asia and Africa, and concentrate on matters concerning America for now, Millions of Dollars could be saved from that type of spending. Thirdly, by taxing Americans that make up to 400,000 Dollars yearly, huge revenue could be generated worth Millions of Dollars. Fourthly, from premium collected on the insured. From Money saved on excessive medicare waste. There are so many other sources, just to mention a few. So, i really want to disagree with people saying that U.S Government will run into deficit if the Public option eventually is adopted.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:05 pm |
  235. susan lefstad

    what if the legislators were to lose their health insurance till they hammered out a compromise...or maybe they should have to pay the percentage rate of their gross income that I would if I could afford too!! Its at 33% I am 60 years old and had (i repeat HAD) a serious illness .. Gentlemen ..get off you political buttocks and do what you were elected to do help you constituents and your country.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:06 pm |
  236. Pam

    The President's word are absolutely true.
    The republicans are living in a made up reality focused on their own personal agendas and those of big business and out of touch with middle class Americans.

    Republicans want the public option off the table because insurance companies are backing their campaigns. It is a threat to the profits and the continued existence of the insurance companies. Everyone knows that the earning big bucks are in Healthcare and have been for years. Insurance companies have had a free pass for years, why let them continue to control it without healthy competition?

    I have a great healthcare plan, yet it takes months to get appointments still. How can a public healthcare be worse then what we have already?

    September 10, 2009 at 1:09 pm |
  237. Christopher M.

    I am shocked that your take on Joe Wilson's comment was 'kind-of' inappropriate. It doesn't matter which party you are a part of , disrespecting the "Office of the President of the United States" is reprehensible. As is your commentary.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:12 pm |
  238. heather r

    President Obama's speech was well written and well delivered. I feel it addressed the issues succinctly. I must admit, as I heard Mr Wilson's undisciplined outburst I was deeply saddened. His lack of respect for the Office of the President was obvious.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:13 pm |
  239. Richard Jaeger

    I admit I am at a loss to explain how a Grade-school class can show more respect for THE President of the United States vi a TV screen than Than the Right-Wing of our Congress can FACE-TO-FACE! God Bless us PLEASE. We need it!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:15 pm |
  240. Don

    Republicans claim that a public health care option would drive private insurance companies out of business because they could not compete with a government run not-for-profit health care plan.

    Why then do the 36 nations which the World Health Organizations ranked as having a better health care system than that of the U.S. HAVE A MIXTURE OF A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND PRIVATE INSURANCE OPTIONS?

    Obviously, from the experience of all those nations, private insurance can co-exist with a not-for-profit public option so the Republicans and vested interests that say it would are simply lying to a gullible public.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:15 pm |
  241. Lynne

    I think Joe Wilson's comment was an utter disgrace to himself, his office, his party, and his President.

    I am fed up with the name calling and the debate. Healthcare reform is here. It's time to get this done. The President and Congress have given the Republicans plenty of time to hash this out. I suggest if you are unwilling to make compromises for the good of the American people you need to get out of the way. We need to move on. Be a part of the solution – compromise or get out of the way!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:18 pm |
  242. Pam

    Just saw a commercial that the Public Option would lead to losing Private Insurance altogether? This is exactly what Insurance Companies are afraid of and are trying to prevent through the Republican Congress.

    They have been robbing the American people for years and want to continue. They are furiously trying to prevent fair competition and low cost choices for Americans to keep their profits and control of healthcare.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    The plan presented by Clark Howard this morning, sounds pretty good. And definitely, health insurance should not be dependent on a persons employment - it is bad enough to lose your job, but then to be sick and not have health insurance is the bottom of the pit!

    On another note, I think the whole deal about whether illegal immigrants should receive health services or not is just one more political distraction.


    1. Many illegal immigrants pay their income taxes through the TIN number that is provided to them by the IRS (which is by the way a Federal Agency)!
    2. If they should not receive services because they are illegals, then they should not have to pay taxes either. Really, it is very hypocritical to take their money, then pretend that we don't, and accuse them of being free loaders.
    3. As a tax payer, it is irrelevant to me whether they are legal, illegal, free loading Americans who have never worked a day in their lives, people who are just down on their luck, children, drug addicts, inmates, you name it! America takes care of the people within its' borders (and many times, those that are outside its' borders). When our taxes are used to help people all over the world it is called "foreing aid". HELLO!! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER WE HELP THEM HERE OR IN THEIR COUNTRY! Our politicians know this, and we should not allow ourselves to be manipulated. When we start to help or provide services based on our idea of who is deverving (and who isn't), we start to walk a very fine line.

    One more thing: our government receives income from different tax sources, which anybody that is a consumer has to pay! We don't just get money from income tax - have you looked at your utility bills, your store receipts, your property tax notice, etc.! Illegals have to pay taxes through all of the services/sources and they also contribute through their buying power. By the way, their need for services provide the rest of us with jobs, which do not need to be outsourced! IT IS THE CIRCLE OF LIFE IN AMERICA - GOD BLESS US!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:21 pm |
  244. Freddye James

    Leave it to the Republicans to deflect the attention away from a very serious issue by stupid and immature actions. To display, as a high level elected official, that you have no impulse control, is well...astonishing! What the Senator did was disrespectful to the President of the US no matter what he was saying and demonstrated a severe lack of judgement. I seriously doubt if he would have done the same to George Bush if he were speaking. An apology was definitely in order, but the Senator shouted to the world loud and clearly who he is: a backwards, unpolished man from a backwards and unprogressive state (I've lived there and I know). I am sick to death of personal agendas that have nothing to do with bettering things for the American people. Please, grow up!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    President Obama walked into a mess when he got in office. The disrespect he has gotten since taking office is disgraceful! This shows that racism is alive and well in America. I hope that he can achieve some of his goals to help our country be as great as it could be. The Health Care System does need to be over hauled and so does the Welfare System. Also one of the problems this country is having is too many people neglect their health on a daily bases. We eat wrong and exercising is a dirty word. The Health Care Debate is making you see how this great country has turned into a country of hate based on misinformation about something that could be a great benefit to many people. So many people who have worked all their lives have lost their benefits and have no where to turn. If you go to Welfare they strip you of all your dignity to get a little medical card. People should be able to get health care and I hope it happens soon. As far as the cost, we have been paying taxes for years for things we will never see! So what ! As far as Rep. Wilson, he is not worth commenting on. The hate showed in his face and his comments.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:21 pm |
  246. Gerard R

    Republicans need to understand a couple of things:

    – Most of us see the hypocrisy of Republicans asking for the regulation of patients regarding malpractice suits, when they're constantly crying for no regulation on profit making.

    – Many of us distrust profit-making corporations more than government, especially after autumn 2008. Any time profits trump patients in a healthcare setting, we've lost both health and care.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:22 pm |
  247. Ruby

    Congressman Joe Wilson was very disrespectful to our President of the United States of America! His outburst just shows how immature he is. President Obama, however, continues to show our Country just how dignified and intelligent he is.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:25 pm |
  248. Don

    Apparently there is no way to reach Wilson by his website, and official access is blocked from a half dozen routes. So, he offers typical schoolyard name-calling and blurts out unreasonably, then hides. Remember hearing about character last night Mr. Wilson? You failed the 15 minute test.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:34 pm |
  249. Marilyn Thodt

    What is it President Obama always states..."surely we can disagree without being disagreeable". I think maybe the congressman should reflect on these few important words from your president!! I am a Canadian that follows US politics and was shocked when I watched this occur yesterday. As for the healthcare annoys me when Canada is brought into the mix (commercials etc) and it is put in line with communism. I was unaware that Canada is a communist country! This because we have healthcare for all? Look it may not be the prefect system but to date no one I know has not been treated for minor or major healthcare problems and none are claiming bankruptcy over medical bills.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:34 pm |
  250. j. wright

    It is impossible to believe anyone in our country would shout to the president any word, let alone liar! This is one more blinding slap in the face as to how far astray the republican party has gone. What they consider intelligent, decent proper human behavior is appalling and wrong. Wilson has only furthered the fact that the republicans are far worse than sore losers, after having eight years to destroy our country on every front they remain an uncivilized, angry, unhappy and out of control lot. We are seeing them implode before us. Once more where are the decent, intelligent, sensible and open republicans? If you are out there speak up before your party is completely self destroyed.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:35 pm |
  251. Steven

    I believe that Rep. Wilson was way over the line with his outburst last night, however, he is just acting the way the people of his party have all been acting since the day after president Obamas election. They just can't accept that a president has been elected that really cares about the well being and future of the majority of citizens as opposed to the wealthy, the corporations, and far right wing religious fanatics.
    I suggest that his government, tax payer funded premium health care insurance be immediately withdrawn and let him negotiate with the insurance companies for private coverage, funny thing is, they would probably give him super coverage for free as long as he continues to protect the huge profits they make!!!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:42 pm |
  252. Kay

    As Americans, Senators or any other government worker, we owe our President respect! Whether, Republican, Democrat or Independent when the leader of our country speaks he should not be heckled on the floor of congress. How dare Rep. Wilson violate the respect our President! Rep. Wilson has now put a face on the Republican Six and it isn't a pleasant expression to the American public. The party should put their bulldogs on a shorter leash!

    September 10, 2009 at 1:56 pm |
  253. Pejman

    It is unfortunate that an educated person who represents many people in congress would act like those in the town hall meetings. Why does not he tell Sarah Palin that she lies about the "Death Squads?"

    Grow up and work for the people who elected you! It is about time.

    September 10, 2009 at 1:58 pm |
  254. Robert Lake,MI

    Wilsons comment was disrespectful but having said that Wilson was completely telling the truth and President Obama did lie when he said no illegal aliens would be covered! Democrats spin is as fast as the Republicans and if it takes the leader of their party to tell a lie to influence the American people then we need to look at who has taken the debate too far! We did not hear President Obama say that with this health care reform we were going to stop paying for illegal aliens health care and child birthing. This will continue and as long as illegals have a reason to be here ie: employment then we the tax payer will continue to foot the bill for all illegal aliens!

    September 10, 2009 at 2:02 pm |
  255. Mark from Boston

    All the “name calling” and divisiveness on both sides is why we face a prolonged recession despite what “Helicopter Ben” and the rest of the comic book characters say.

    The S&P rises 38% from the lows after the latest trillions of dollars in stimulus and people see that as a sign “Happy Days” are here again. Yet, the fact the dollar is down 16 % from it’s highs or that the average citizen has been hijacked by Wall Street appears to be irrelevant, and what insurance companies are doing is nothing short of a terrorist attack. As a country, we can’t even come to a consensus on whether we want out children to listen to a motivational speech from the President. Soon when over 10 million Americans run out of unemployment benefits and become violently desperate and we’re all paying $4 for one apple maybe we’ll learn a valuable lesson.

    So, it all depends on your perspective. Have we gone too far?

    September 10, 2009 at 2:12 pm |
  256. Robert Lake,MI

    Sadly the majority of people crying for public option are to no surprise people without insurance. Problem is we all at some point have been there. I wonder though just how many of them either want to retire early or really make enough to buy their own health insurance but because most Americans have to keep up with the Jones`s these people are tapped out monthly due to maxed out credit! I say to these people crying for public option, how about selling your SUV, and the home you really cant afford, and dump the cell phones and pay off your credit cards and disconnect your high speed internet and satillite tv, do all of these things and then tell me you cant afford your own health insurance!

    September 10, 2009 at 2:12 pm |
  257. Ardis

    It has defiantly gone too far. It is ok to disagree, but you should be able to still show respect. Our needs are too important for anything but respectful discussion working towards a compromise that improves the lives of the citizens of this country. Is yelling, name calling, and misrepresentations really the kind of behavior that we want to show our children and the rest of the world?

    September 10, 2009 at 2:25 pm |
  258. Judi Arnold

    This outburst by Joe Wilson should not be tolerated, and he should be held accountable.

    September 10, 2009 at 2:27 pm |
  259. Maggie

    The President addressed this issue of illegals in a recent news conference stating anyone, citizens or illegals , will be by law taken care of through any emergency room. We pay for it now he states. So he himself was not exactly truthful last night.

    September 10, 2009 at 2:30 pm |
  260. Elizabeth 39

    This out burst is just the reflection of the true reason the Healthcare is so out of control. Our President is working on fixing this problem. Now we know why it is so difficult, because of people like Wilson, looking at attention not on helping the President. Look at all the news it is getting. What a joke.

    September 10, 2009 at 2:31 pm |
  261. Jenni

    Thank goodness SOMEONE had the nerve to tell the president and all of Congress the truth!!! Liberals used to call George Bush a liar...smells like double standard....I don't care where it was done what goes around comes around!

    September 10, 2009 at 2:37 pm |
  262. Dar

    My seven year old knows better than to speak, yet alone shout out, in his classroom while the teacher is talking...and I can assure you that if he were to have forgotten his manners he would have had consequences for his bad behaviour....Is it too much to ask a grown-man, a United States Congressman to simply keep to the rules we were taught in kindergarten? Freedom of speech is not an excuse for such ignorant and disrespectful behaviour....appalling.

    September 10, 2009 at 2:40 pm |
  263. Anoushka Ondaatje

    I think Rep. Wilson is related to the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at George Bush.
    Talk about southern hospitality!

    September 10, 2009 at 2:43 pm |
  264. David

    One person wrote where is the respect. Well, Obama has shown very little respect to a large number of Americans who disagree with his liberal views. If you don't agree with Obama's views then you are labeled a trouble maker spreading lies. When Obama begins to respect the views of conservative Americans then he will deserve that respect in return.

    I personally don't think that he will change. He is a self-centered individual who starves for attention and needs to be in the spot light all the time. His values are so different from middle America that I don't feel that he can effectively lead this country. We'll just have to wait out the next three years and hope that he does not do too much damage.

    September 10, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  265. mary griffin

    Its all in the wording the illegalies will find away aroundit.
    Theyt all ready get free treatment they use the ER as thier personal Dr.
    They gave fake addresses and wrong phone numbers. So the state has to pick it up, if you think I am wrong ask Cal.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:11 pm |
  266. Kathy

    To call President Obama a liar is to tell the truth.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm |
  267. Nicole

    In a parliamentary system, the prime minister is also a member of Parliament. He or she would be there every day debating with the other members. Therefore, the debates can be loud and raucous. In Great Britain, as in Canada, you will be kicked out if you use the word liar.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:17 pm |
  268. Mike

    Rick (Sanchez), Thanks for your fact-checking on Joe Wilson's comment; however, what is the ACTUAL prohibition on illegal immigrants receiving healthcare under the President's proposal when there is no mechanism prescribed to enforce it?

    September 10, 2009 at 3:17 pm |
  269. lynn, vancouver, canada

    Rick: The democratic system (note I wrote democratic and NOT socialistic) gov't of Britain (as well as Canada, Austrailia and most other members of the Commonwealth) have a totally different orgainization of gov't than America does.

    The Prime Minister is a MEMBER of Parliament elected in the same way as all Memebers of Parliament by her voters in his/her district. Voters in these countries do NOT vote diirectly for the Prime Minister but for the candidiates in the different parties that represent each of the parties. The head of the party with the MOST elected officials then becomes the Prime Minister. She.he selects the Cabinet from the Representatives that have been elected in his Party. The Prime Minister than discusses, formulates and votes on all legislation.

    The Prime Minister then is a part of not separate from and is always in Parliament when it is in session as s/he is part of that body. Thus, there is a difference in decorum and customs especially during the daily question periods.

    Americans, especially journalists and pundits who speak of such matters, should really know more about the gov'ts of other nations especially of their allies.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:22 pm |
  270. Teresa

    I must agree that Joe Wilson lost it. He should be removed from his position. He not only disrespected President Obama but he disrespected the office of the President. How dare he call the President of the United States a lair. President Obama has walked into this office with his work cut out for him. I think the President has done a fantastic job thus far and to be spoken to like that is very immature on the part of Mr Wilson.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  271. Edward Kent

    I strongly feels that Rep. Wilson was very rude and disrespectul to President Obama. This kind of behavior is unacceptable. We need to respect the President no matter what.. When Rep. Wilson apologized on TV to day, it was very clear to me that he did it because he was asked to do it not because he wanted to do it. It is my personal opinion that he is a very ignorant man but what do you expect from SC? Gov. Mark Sanford is another one. To me , we have two ignorant men. Sanford enjoys the spotlight. He really needs to step down and chase women all day. I feel sorry for the citizens of SC because they elected two officials that has no business being in public office.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm |
  272. Pam holt

    Foley,al. How embarrassing he was.yet the more that these losers do to make the president look bad, they create a oppurtunity for him to present a lesson in good manners and behavior... If it wasn't so seriou, it would be humorous. way to go president Obama, it " s been a long time since we had such a dignified leader give we, the citizens, such a good example.....

    September 10, 2009 at 3:29 pm |
  273. shelita

    You rock!!!!! Finally someone untangled the mess. Thank you for lining up what the bill says so the public can know the truth.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
  274. Kenny

    this man just disrespected the seat of the United Sates President. on national TV. this should not be overlooked. He should be lot go and loose his set today. do you know how that makes us look toward other countries if he dose not loose his seat. weak thats what

    September 10, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
  275. Jan Montgomery

    I'm a master's degree level middle aged female and a registered independent. I can't believe the divide happening in the country right now, and it's been going on now full speed for about one and a half years. I feel the congressman who spoke out during the presidents speech spoke out on impulse. It is true that the President did not speak the truth and it appears that most of the news channels overlook it when he does this. There must be some hidden reason for this. There is a provision in the health care bill that allows the illegal immigrants to be able to purchase health care as they do now. Obama quite frequently makes conflicting statements like this. No wonder the general public is starting to lose trust in him and his polls are dropping.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:36 pm |
  276. Kathy

    Rick, Arlington, TX School District "endangered" kids on a Field Trip to Cornerstone Baptist CHURCH Tuesday to hear President Obama. All it took was a parental permission slip. And the kids got a free lunch!YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF CNN EVER RESEARCHED ANYTHING!

    September 10, 2009 at 3:46 pm |
  277. Allen Klinefelter

    Bad manners is bad manners. Even if the House was in session and a debate was going on the person wanting to make a point woould ask if the gental man would yeild for a question. Public debate should take place, but in a civil manner. I think most people know what Roberts Rules of Order is and should be used in public meetings. this way each person gets heard. A formal repremand should be done to discourage this type of action.

    September 10, 2009 at 3:47 pm |
  278. Kristie

    What is worse Congressman Wilson telling the truth or the President lieing on National TV to the American people? It may have been disrespectful but who was telling the truth???? Perhaps the President needs to apologise to us for lieing?? This is an important issue and we all deserve the real truth!

    September 10, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  279. Kenny

    The President must be respected. If we as Americans cant respect our leader. Why should other countries and leaders. THE SEAT OF THE PRESIDENT IS TOO IMPORTANT RATHER YOU LIKE HIM OR NOT. AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT. YOU MUST RESPECT HIM. When i was in the military there were many officers i did not like or agree with but never would you get away with disrupting or disrespecting them. To many countries pay attention to the Presidents speeches. THIS MAN JUST BOLDLY DISRESPECTED THE SEAT OF OUR PRESIDENT AND CALLED HIM A LYRE ON NATIONAL TV. WHAT!!! IS HE CRAZY. HIS APOLOGY IS NOT ENOUGH . HE NEED TO LOOSE HIS SEAT IN CONGRESS PERMANENTLY TODAY.


    September 10, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
  280. vivian

    K, The reason the President said the republicans were lying was because they were. Town hall meetings !!! Death panels!!! etc,ect,etc. And the lies go on and on and on.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  281. vivian

    Canam, The only way you can see Lady Liberty is because You are the Shame that is not hiding.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  282. donna

    Mr. Wilson apologized for his bad manners. The statement President Obama was making was incorrect but perhaps Obama was not aware of it. Obamas's pushy tone was no excuse for bad manners from the audience. For a moment I thought i was watching BBC.
    Did anyone ever yell at President Bush and apologize? I suppose "BOO" was not considered bad manners.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  283. Jerry Mason

    After Joe Wilson's child like tantrum last night, I suggest we reconsider the issue and go ahead and let South Carolina seceed. Their Republican Congressman is obviously an idiot, their Republican Governor is in danger of impeachment, one of other Republican Congressman said it was the President who behaved beneath the dignity of his offlice last night. What is it SC brings to the table again? Adios I say.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
  284. Robert Porter

    I am so terribly dissappointed, because most Americans are descent and honest people.This is all being watched Worldwide and everytime the President is treated differently than past Presidents.Believe me,opinions are being shaped ,questions are being asked ,did this Great Country get beyond its past ways of inequality.i am proud as an American that Obama rose above this.signed:a loyal citizen

    September 10, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  285. MWDelaney

    YES, YES, and definitely YES! Listen, we all as Americans have the right to feel any kind of a way towards anyone but what makes our country the land of the “FREE” and the home of the “BRAVE”, is the moral obligations that we all hold dear and true to our Hearts. This moral obligation is within each of our ethical perspectives by which we view others and each of us adheres to this notion daily, which is the notion and the understanding that regardless of our differences that each and every person deserves RESPECT! So, I have a question if he disagrees with his Priest is this the kind of carrying on that goes on. I Sure wouldn’t want to worship anywhere this guy goes (What an example). P.S. What happened to the Sergeant of Arms Personnel was he or she off duty? Also, let’s correct this kind of behavior all across the congress………..Um perhaps a fine or two? P.P.S. – Don’t forget the disrespectful and rude Blackberry guy. Oh, and also the good ol’guy’s (Republicans) that held up the talking points for the night……….Say, from what I hear some have said that the documents were a copy of some of their proposal’s and ideals on this debate. Then if what I’ve heard is correct PLEASE will someone please release a copy to the American People for discussion? Good-Afternoon.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
  286. Roy Church

    Has the debate gone too far. This is a ridiculous question. This is not a debate, it is just mayem where people attack without justification or any evidence to support their accusations. The attacker is calling a proposal a lie. A proposal is not fact but merely a proposal. How can it be a lie or a truth until it is tested in action? This personal attack seems to be designed to defeat the president rather than to defeat an issue. CNN should be condemning these attacks rather than asking ridiculous questions of viewers. Cnn Professionals should not need any help to determine when something has gone too far or to recognize disrespectful malicious attacks. John McCain was able to recognize this attack for what it was, even though it was difficult for him to do so and may have cost him a few points of support among the wing nuts of his party.

    September 10, 2009 at 4:49 pm |
  287. Harry

    Joe Wilson has to go!!! This is not the image the GOP wants to have with the general public or to the constituents of the State of South Carolina. There is no doubt that emotions are often heated but as a Representative of Congress, his behavior was totally inappropriate. In light of the current environment and the desire of the GOP to market themselves as a party on inclusion, he has set the party back decades.

    Every member of Congress should vote to reprimand this fool. If they don’t I for one will monitor the outcome of this behavior and certainly vote against my representative in the fine State of Virginia if the behavior is not addressed.

    How could we be so upset about a speech about education, when you have someone of this statue get on national television and a Presidential speech a behave like this. Our kids don’t know what respect, dignity or decorum is, and I know why if that is what is representing the country. He needs to go….

    September 10, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  288. Deborah Mellas

    Extremists, like Joe Wilson should be reprimanded for such disrespectful and disruptive outbursts toward our President. A mere apology is just not acceptable.

    September 10, 2009 at 5:09 pm |
  289. Mark Cole

    I'm surprised that the Republicans didn't start throwing their shoes at the President! They have all developed the collective IQ of a dead otter. I hate that the true intellectual/fiscal conservatives of the Republican Party, of which I was proud to be a part of, have been crowded out by far right wing ideological twits who think they are the only ones with the God given right to run this country as it should be run. The morals and ethics they profess are corrupt and based on greed and power, the very things Christ warned us about. They claim to do this out of a sense of patriotism but, just as Doctor Samuel Johnson said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". I will return to the Republican Party when it sheds itself of these scoundrels.

    September 10, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  290. David Denson

    I spent 22 years in the Army. Once priviledged enough to reach the higher enlisted ranks I was involved in numerous meethings with Commanders and company leaders. At times discussions got very heated but by the end of the meeting we walked out United with the commander making the final dicision. Soldiers only saw a United front. Our leaders at the highest levels in Washington need to go through some basic training.

    September 10, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  291. Angela

    Why isn't anyone reporting about the Acorn scandal with the tax lady giving advice to the prostitute business. Fox news is. Where is CNN???????????????????????????????

    September 10, 2009 at 5:37 pm |
  292. Jason

    Even tjhough I do not endorse the way Rep Wilson voiced his concern over the President's comments, I believe he was correct. The Pres flat out lied. See comment below.....

    "House Minority Leader John Boehner said Thursday that, according to a Congressional Research Service report, illegal immigrants would indeed be covered, defending Wilson's assertion even though he called the manner in which he delivered it "inappropriate."

    September 10, 2009 at 5:37 pm |
  293. roger moore

    Its pretty bad you cant call a liar a liar. I guess it just wasnt appropriate at that time. The left had no problem calling one of our greatest presidents all kind of outlandish names bush and reagan. The fact is nobody is denying he lied last night they just dont like it done during his show. GOD help us from this socialist muslim.

    September 10, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
  294. Patsy Tyner

    My question to you is, why in the name of God do you put your head in the sand where this corrupt group,Acorn is concerned! Obama and his comunist, radical Czars, Pelosis, etc can constantly talk about Medicare and social security being broke but fail to admit that this Acorn and groups like this are what's draining all our tax dollars!
    Your station must be afraid of their rath, because you fools know it's you tax dollars too!
    Don't you even have the common decency to mention the fact that Acorn is advocating child trafficking and tax evasion?
    You are a joke!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 5:44 pm |
  295. Lorri

    I am shocked that you are covering this story yet look the other way about the Acorn scandal. Acorn is being given our hard earned tax dollars to scam the government of money not to mention that they are encouraging the client to illegally bring underage girls into our country to be slaves in the sex industry!!! SHOCKING! How can you call yourself a news organization. How many scandals before you care. How can you not be outraged by this illicit activity?? You wonder why Fox is trouncing your ratings. You will be judged someday and God help you. I hope if you have children you go home and look into their eyes and reevaluate your actions or lack there of. Disgusting!!

    September 10, 2009 at 5:44 pm |
  296. Lorri

    You chose to throw all republicans under the bus which is ridiculous. I remember democrats including Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi calling everyone from the past administration and the CIA liars. The real issue though is that what the President was saying is not true. Frame it anyway you want to but do some research. If our country gives Americans health care they are bound by the Constitution to give it to everyone including illegal aliens. Look it up...California tried to deny rights to illegal aliens in court and have lost every case due to the Constitution so tell me how what the President said is not in fact not true therefore a lie? I do not condone the shouting of it but I understand the frustration! Please open your eyes people and stop being puppets to the corrupt media!

    September 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm |
  297. Geo.

    United We Stand, Divided We Fall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Vietnam Vet

    September 10, 2009 at 6:00 pm |
  298. Betty Phillips

    Please listen to "his" speech again!! within the first 2 minutes Obama had told 3 lies that I picked up. The lies are in quoting the figures he did. As far as Wilsons comment, he was just unable to hear more lies, people are sick of lies and corruption. The biggest joke was on Nancy Pelosi, her mouth flew open to look like a fire place that had just had the ashes removed, she can be so repulsive. Can she not afford a good dentist?? Her teeth are horrible. Now here is another comment for CNN, why did they not report the remark made by ACCORN? about the remark to list a ladys prostution as a job with the arts, of course CNN tucked their tail and put their heads in the sand.
    This is another reason why I do not watch CNN, they are not a fair news chanel. Betty

    September 10, 2009 at 6:27 pm |
  299. Sooner

    Repulicans will be all wee wee'd up over anything that a Democrate will do. As far as their behavior is concerned, how else would you expect them to act. When have you ever seen them not oppose anything that would benefit the common good of the people who are suffering. They opposed social security when it was introuduced, they opposed medicade and medicare, minimum wage laws. If they had it their way the public school system would disappear, in fact if they had their way we would'nt have any social services.
    Owasso, OK

    September 10, 2009 at 6:32 pm |
  300. phyllis mejia

    Joe Wilsons outburst was delibret and he should be made to give up his seat,we don't need his kind representing us.

    September 10, 2009 at 6:47 pm |
  301. San Pablo Juan

    To the fella who declared in all capitol letters WE ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGALS .... you are missing the point.

    The whole illegals thing is a con. They estimate that there are 12 million people in the U.S. illegally. That's everything from migrant workers to diplomats with expired visas. Many of those people have health insurace and use it.

    But let's say that everyone of those 12 million people is without health insurance - that's less than 4 percent of the population. Using a very conservative estimate of 30 million Americans without health insurance, and a population of 300 million people - ten percent of citizens have no insurance.

    So cynical politicians are using the fear that four percent of the people inside our borders could bankrupt the country - while drawing your attention away from the idea that one in ten people has no coverage.

    Let's talk about that 4% number again. Pretend for a moment that some illegals will never seek medical attention because they fear being caught or deported. Call that one half of one percent of the four percent we started with. Then, let's take a stab at guessing the number of illegals with insurance - call that 1%. Now you're talking about 2.5% of the population versus one in ten. And some of the most expensive care after emergency room treatments - nursing homes and other long-term care is rarely used by illegals, if at all.

    Many illegal workers get to stay in the U.S. because they have forged documents - folks with forged documents and decent jobs get health insurance, retirement benefits, pay into social security (which they'll never collect).

    The real issue is un-insured Americans and under-insured Americans. The thing is, politicians can't get folks emotionally opposed to this plan if they understand that their friends and neighbors stand to benefit. Nope, they need a red herring to draw attention away from the truth.

    If you buy the fear that politicians are protecting you from money-sucking illegal aliens - then you won't notice that they're doing a disservice to the electorate. You won't pause to ask yourself "If they're not protecting the voters, who are they protecting?"

    Did you hear the president say that the typical person with health care is subsidizing the un-insured and the under-insured to the tune of $1000 per year? That $1000 you are paying will continue to rise as long as the number of uninsured continues to rise. Get folks insurance they can afford and you won't have to pay for their E.R. visits. Let them visit doctors' officies when they're just a little sick, and the cost of their treatment goes down.

    September 10, 2009 at 6:49 pm |
  302. pj

    We all know why Joe went off like he did and it was planned.Shame on him and all who support him and his rudeness.

    September 10, 2009 at 6:56 pm |
  303. VJ

    it has gone way too far with the republican lies and hate smears what do they expect?

    September 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm |
  304. Frieda Nean

    I'm a dyed in the wool Democrat in long standing. Yet, I say "Right ON!" Joe Wilson. We need more of our reps in Washington willing to stand up and be counted. That's why they're in Washington-to represent US–the people. If I lived in SC I'd be voting for him even if he is a Republican.

    September 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm |
  305. Betty Phillips

    for Katherine who left her comment up above. Please tell me why we should show respect to Obama? He has done nothing but lie, lie and still he gathers all of his radical friends who have done nothing but bad mouth everyone but a black person whom he is familiar with.
    I think Obama should be the one to show respect to the American people. He still will not show his birth certificate, why, he is holding something that no president should, if he is not a US citizen then tell it and stop the lying. I believe the good book says it is a sin to lie, so Obama out with the truth, do you know the truth will set you free? I can hardly wait to hear about Obama's LADY FRIEND FROM HIS SCHOOL DAYS!! what does Michelle say about that? I can hardly wait for all his sneaky ways are laid out for everyone to see. It will happen.Betty

    September 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm |
  306. Geoff

    I am so enraged that this completely irresponsible man has the audacity to respond to his own actions by saying, 'I was told by the uppers that I should call the White House to apologize...'.

    PLEASE!!!!! This only shows that the man has no concept of what respect is...AT ALL!!!!

    Why will not someone call for some sort of punishment. The president cannot do this, obviously, I why won't the media publish this information.

    How dare he abuse his power in this way...HE IS ABSOLUTELY UN-AMERICAN and deserves not to have his position!!!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 7:42 pm |
  307. Channell Palmer

    Being disrespectful to the President of the untied states of american is like being dispespestful to everyone citizen in the U.S.A! HOW UNAMERICAN OF JOE WILSON! When the President is speaking we are too pay attention because that is his time too speak!! I can't believe JOE WILSON HOW DARE HIM!! Then Joe said that the top repulicans ask him too appologize! He should have appologize no matter what!!! He should loose his seat in congress!! I don't want a man like JOE WILSON in congress!! When has there ever been such disrespect!! I m mad and very upset w JOE WILSON!! I m with you Obama!!!

    September 10, 2009 at 7:48 pm |
  308. NY Jen

    Conservatives in general, seriously..... what is the deal???
    - Prior to the election it was "country first" and America this and USA that... blah blah blah..... now its ok to disrespect the president of the United States???? every day I hear all these ignorant republicans saying how he ought to be "slayed" or how he is an evil communist or whatever.. blah blah blah...... how can you tote your flags and chant USA one minute and act so unpatriotic the next?? Are you really that ignorant? Is it because he is black? smarter than you? or a democrat? either way it's wrong...
    -no matter how much I, or anyone I knew who disagreed with Bush, there was never this much disrespect or hatred toward the president of this country..... just ridiculous.....

    September 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm |
  309. alabama54

    After calling the president a liar in the u.s.chambers i want to see charlie wilson from south carolina removed and stripped of his power.He was out of order and he shouldn't be let off the hook with a false apology that he gave to the white house today. This man has no truth to his apology and he is now begging for cash. Charlie Wilson, Rush Limbaush and most of the republican party is out to get the president and to cast down every plan the president presents to the american people on the Health care plan. The real issue is people like Charlie wilson and Rush will do anthing to keep the american people misinformed, and scared to death they will loose medicare, social security and everything they have if they believe in the plans of
    our president. most of the uninsured is poor people. these president bashers are wealthy people. what do they care.

    September 10, 2009 at 8:40 pm |
  310. terry effertz

    What is next from these do nothing republicans throwing shoe' at the president?

    September 10, 2009 at 8:43 pm |
  311. Patti

    So what if he called the President a liar? Harry Reed called President Bush a liar, where is the outrage? At least Wilson apologized, Reed didn't. I really want to know why you at CNN and other media organizations haven't spoke about the ACORN video, showing ACORN employees advising two people how to dupe the government? Journalism is pitiful in this country. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Don't get to comfy. Your demise is inevitable.

    September 10, 2009 at 9:30 pm |
  312. kayschettini

    Political correctness has brought the country to this. And
    this goes to show you how many stupid people live in this country, especially those who vote for such unprofessional politicians.
    Why don't we all admit that Wilson disrespected the President because the extreme right is still fighting the Civil War ? These continuous incidents could bring the country to another really bad civil war and that will make the world really enjoy the spectacle of Americans killing each other like animals.

    September 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm |
  313. Jacqueline

    Read the bill – then compare it to what Mr Obama tells us it says. They do not match. READ IT! It is sad that the congressman in his frustration blurted out what he was thinking – but it is also true that our president is either uneducated about the specifics of the bill or he is indeed lying. Mr Obama is a wonderful speaker – but often his speaches are just words. He presents lovely ideas – but 'hope is not a method'. Yes, we need insurance reform, but HR3200 is a mess! The difference between my being insured by a big money grubbing corporation and being insured by the government is that I have a choice whether or not I wish to stay with the corporation. I can show my displeasure and change anytime Iwant. Once Obama care begins – Americans will no longer have other options from which to choose. Mr Obama says we can keep our current plan if we wish? READ THE BILL. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN!

    September 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
  314. Xavier Burke Sr.

    Mr. Wilson might as well just throwed the shoe.

    September 10, 2009 at 11:12 pm |
  315. Eddie

    It is a shame that the networks fail to call these wackos/nutheads for the nusances they are to our democratic system. Instead they are glamorized, sensationalized and cowered to by the networks such as CNN. The networks are supposed to pursue facts, deconstruct factless assertions for the benefit of the citizens. It is obvious that the GOP does not wish this administration and us ordinary citizens any good will. Capitalism to the Republicans means excessive and unhealthy wealth syphoning by big business executives, lobbying entities, and their Republican stooges in Congress.

    For once we have a President who has the welfare and well being of the country at heart. Unfortunately we are faced with a regressive Republican politic and backward ideology as a blockade on the road to making America healthier. What a shame!!! It is obvious that ignorant Joe Wilson was expressive of the Republican leadership sentiment on this subject. You lost the election folks, get over it. Sour losers.

    September 11, 2009 at 1:28 am |
  316. Garfield

    First of all I am Canadian and right from the start I will say our Health Care is not perfect but until something better comes along I feel privileged to live in a country that has it.

    Now if I were living in the US I would be embarrassed beyond words for two reasons.

    Just the other night a Doctor from New York was on CNN. Now this person is a highly educated professional person but their main objection to Health Care Reform was that the extra number of people, the un-insured, would put pressure on the system's Doctors and cause a huge problem. No compassion for the un-insured at all only worried about her-shelf.
    The second reason I would be embarrassed is the way your system of government works, or doesn't work would be better. Your voter has no power at all; it is the lobbyists who spend millions of dollars to buy your elected officials who have the power to control things. It is unbelievable that lobbyists are allowed to circumvent democracy and purchase the vote of the elected government members. To the citizen of the United States that must be both embarrassing and actually dangerous.

    I predict that there will be no real reform of the health care in your country for the simple reason you as voters do not own your own democracy. You have let the powerful, the rich and the lobbyists take it away for you. Only in America they say, what a pity.

    September 11, 2009 at 3:44 am |
  317. Arthur Ramos

    Barrack Obama while on the campaign trail promised everything under the sun to get elected President of the United States, someone should have called the man a liar long ago.

    September 11, 2009 at 4:13 am |
  318. Rosalind

    I feel this should not be tolerated. This man should do more
    than apologize, he should give up his office, he knew exactly
    what he was doing.

    September 11, 2009 at 8:19 am |
  319. LAURA

    What ever happen to free Speach?? In my opinion i think obama treated mr.wilson like a school boy tell us how mr wilson apologized
    I don't think he had to apologize to anyone.

    September 11, 2009 at 8:57 am |