Great video. I am sending all the men and teens I work with to see this. This is a chronic problem everywhere. Physical bullying is one of the main issues we are dealing with and 90% from boys to both boys and girls. Girls are more subtle but it is also very serious. I would love for you to see what we do and the changes we actually quantify with Boys to Men.
January 2, 2010 at 11:39 am |
frankie
My husband did many years in prison. "Don't snitch" is a survival mechanism in prison. You have to close your heart to terrible things you see going on because there is probably no possible avenue to get help for yourself OR anyone else. America has an extremely high incarceration rate. Millions of people do time and then bring this survival mechanism back home with them, where it doesn't help their employability or their children, or anything. This is a totally anti-social survival mechanism.
President Obama was pretty much slammed for talking first about improving American schools. Schools is the only place where you can start to fix our society. Thank-you.
January 2, 2010 at 11:45 am |
concerned
I think because we have all been bullied at one time or another in our lives, the 'no snitching' mentality comes from it, we are all worried about retalliation. If we instill a 'no bullying tollerated' type of mentality we will empower our youth to 'do the right thing'. They will only learn this from the people, parents and peers around them. To speak up when something is wrong. Look at Parks and King as examples.
January 2, 2010 at 11:53 am |
rich fanning
Mr. Tony Harris' report about H.S. students & "Not Snitching" was very interesting. It is easy for many of us to be very critical as we watch & listen to repeated incidents of violence or bullying, where teenagers do not intervene, or call for help.
But maybe we should also look at the behavioral examples we are providing.
BAD BEHAVIOR IS CONTAGIOUS:
NYPD officer brutally inserts nightstick into man's rectum & fellow officers, who have sworn to uphold the Law, are far from cooperative in helping with investigation.
Major league ballplayers testify, under oath, before congress on Capitol Hill regarding use of banned substances. They stare at the questioning senators and boldly lie about their experiences, while the Senators listen to the perjured testimony & pretend to actually believe the lies.
Investment bankers and advisers, who bear a fiduciary responsibility to their clients , along with the regulators abdicate their professional and ethical responsibilities, allowing the economic engine to spin out of control. Then they all pretend that no one realized anyone was acting unethically.
Senators, Congressmen, Clergy, Sports personalities, highly placed business professionals, attorneys etc. have all been caught violating the rules of good civil conduct. It has become acceptable to be self serving and act only in one's self interest.
More and more people view those who are not acting only in their own self interest as rather foolish.
Who are the younger folks supposed to learn from , when this is the example that they see in their home, school and public forums?
Shame on us!
January 2, 2010 at 1:35 pm |
A. Smith, Oregon
American law enforcement often uses extortion and black mail to coerse or force a witness to inform on a potential suspect. After the person they blackmail or threaten decides the fake drug or contraband threat isn't worth going to jail over giving up someone, they routinely cooperate. Only to find they then openly become a target for revenge and extreme violence after the court session is over.
Often the lines between who is more guilty the police or the potential suspect becomes more blurred everyday. Intelligent students and American Citizens are standing up to law enforcement abuses and telling them NO. American citizens are routinely refusing to help them with any information, or offering a helping hand even if they are beaten by the same people they abuse.
The American Justice system is so corrupt it routinely railroads the poor into the largest prison system on Earth and protects the most grievous offenders if they are Senators, Congressmen, Clergy or Celebrates. Young American's know and realize how corrupt law enforcement is and refuse to help them in their acts of evil upon their community and American society's.
January 2, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
Marijuana Advocate
Great work, Tony. Those kids represent what most kids in the US think! And they are right – cops in my little town HASSLE teenagers just because they are easy targets. Teachers, though, they'll at least try to reason with them most of the time. It's hard to tell what the cops are really doing - sure there is at least one good cop out there but many are just going through the motions.
January 4, 2010 at 10:14 am |
Kathy
I worked in 3 prisons over 12 years, as a nurse in the medical dept.
I and other staff as well, had to turn away at many situations, officers and inmates. You can not work in a prison or live in a prison and be a snitch. If your an employee, you won't last long snitching on staff or inmate. This is not saying you will be physically hurt, but they will build a case to get rid of you. I have seen it so many times it just became normal in a correctional setting.
January 5, 2010 at 11:40 am |
scott
it's all about right and wrong , it's how you are brought up, parents that give good values, will teach their children to do the right thing.
It is the law, it is like looking for legal malpractice attorney in Illinois something you don't find corruption a poison system.
January 5, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
Tonya
These was a great job Tony brought out to our teens and young adults,its time to make a stand for others and there self.Yes the teens brought out some good points,but they have to realize want if that was there family member getting hurt.I also agree the teens should develop a relate ship with the police
January 6, 2010 at 4:09 pm |
Daniel ............ Toronto
I think this has always been a problem and always will. The most important thing to learn is that the criminals, the people doing the bad thing want you to be quiet because it effects them. It reminds me of the old movie "Waterfront" with Marlon Brando. He saw some bullies kill someone and this was back in the 40's. They pressured him not to "snitch" and the only reason they did that was because they didn't want to be arrested for murdering someone. But he did nothing wrong, it's the guy that does the murder who is the bad guy. He eventually turned them in to the police. So if they can intimidate you enough they will have a free rein and continue in their criminal acts. Don't let them do that. It's not "snitching" what it is, is people turning in bad people for doing bad things. Don't lose sight of that and don't let them intimidate you. If you killed one of their family friends and they saw it do you think "they" would report you? Don't let these thugs/bullies control you because "you" are doing the right thing and they are not.
Great video. I am sending all the men and teens I work with to see this. This is a chronic problem everywhere. Physical bullying is one of the main issues we are dealing with and 90% from boys to both boys and girls. Girls are more subtle but it is also very serious. I would love for you to see what we do and the changes we actually quantify with Boys to Men.
My husband did many years in prison. "Don't snitch" is a survival mechanism in prison. You have to close your heart to terrible things you see going on because there is probably no possible avenue to get help for yourself OR anyone else. America has an extremely high incarceration rate. Millions of people do time and then bring this survival mechanism back home with them, where it doesn't help their employability or their children, or anything. This is a totally anti-social survival mechanism.
President Obama was pretty much slammed for talking first about improving American schools. Schools is the only place where you can start to fix our society. Thank-you.
I think because we have all been bullied at one time or another in our lives, the 'no snitching' mentality comes from it, we are all worried about retalliation. If we instill a 'no bullying tollerated' type of mentality we will empower our youth to 'do the right thing'. They will only learn this from the people, parents and peers around them. To speak up when something is wrong. Look at Parks and King as examples.
Mr. Tony Harris' report about H.S. students & "Not Snitching" was very interesting. It is easy for many of us to be very critical as we watch & listen to repeated incidents of violence or bullying, where teenagers do not intervene, or call for help.
But maybe we should also look at the behavioral examples we are providing.
BAD BEHAVIOR IS CONTAGIOUS:
NYPD officer brutally inserts nightstick into man's rectum & fellow officers, who have sworn to uphold the Law, are far from cooperative in helping with investigation.
Major league ballplayers testify, under oath, before congress on Capitol Hill regarding use of banned substances. They stare at the questioning senators and boldly lie about their experiences, while the Senators listen to the perjured testimony & pretend to actually believe the lies.
Investment bankers and advisers, who bear a fiduciary responsibility to their clients , along with the regulators abdicate their professional and ethical responsibilities, allowing the economic engine to spin out of control. Then they all pretend that no one realized anyone was acting unethically.
Senators, Congressmen, Clergy, Sports personalities, highly placed business professionals, attorneys etc. have all been caught violating the rules of good civil conduct. It has become acceptable to be self serving and act only in one's self interest.
More and more people view those who are not acting only in their own self interest as rather foolish.
Who are the younger folks supposed to learn from , when this is the example that they see in their home, school and public forums?
Shame on us!
American law enforcement often uses extortion and black mail to coerse or force a witness to inform on a potential suspect. After the person they blackmail or threaten decides the fake drug or contraband threat isn't worth going to jail over giving up someone, they routinely cooperate. Only to find they then openly become a target for revenge and extreme violence after the court session is over.
Often the lines between who is more guilty the police or the potential suspect becomes more blurred everyday. Intelligent students and American Citizens are standing up to law enforcement abuses and telling them NO. American citizens are routinely refusing to help them with any information, or offering a helping hand even if they are beaten by the same people they abuse.
The American Justice system is so corrupt it routinely railroads the poor into the largest prison system on Earth and protects the most grievous offenders if they are Senators, Congressmen, Clergy or Celebrates. Young American's know and realize how corrupt law enforcement is and refuse to help them in their acts of evil upon their community and American society's.
Great work, Tony. Those kids represent what most kids in the US think! And they are right – cops in my little town HASSLE teenagers just because they are easy targets. Teachers, though, they'll at least try to reason with them most of the time. It's hard to tell what the cops are really doing - sure there is at least one good cop out there but many are just going through the motions.
I worked in 3 prisons over 12 years, as a nurse in the medical dept.
I and other staff as well, had to turn away at many situations, officers and inmates. You can not work in a prison or live in a prison and be a snitch. If your an employee, you won't last long snitching on staff or inmate. This is not saying you will be physically hurt, but they will build a case to get rid of you. I have seen it so many times it just became normal in a correctional setting.
it's all about right and wrong , it's how you are brought up, parents that give good values, will teach their children to do the right thing.
It is the law, it is like looking for legal malpractice attorney in Illinois something you don't find corruption a poison system.
These was a great job Tony brought out to our teens and young adults,its time to make a stand for others and there self.Yes the teens brought out some good points,but they have to realize want if that was there family member getting hurt.I also agree the teens should develop a relate ship with the police
I think this has always been a problem and always will. The most important thing to learn is that the criminals, the people doing the bad thing want you to be quiet because it effects them. It reminds me of the old movie "Waterfront" with Marlon Brando. He saw some bullies kill someone and this was back in the 40's. They pressured him not to "snitch" and the only reason they did that was because they didn't want to be arrested for murdering someone. But he did nothing wrong, it's the guy that does the murder who is the bad guy. He eventually turned them in to the police. So if they can intimidate you enough they will have a free rein and continue in their criminal acts. Don't let them do that. It's not "snitching" what it is, is people turning in bad people for doing bad things. Don't lose sight of that and don't let them intimidate you. If you killed one of their family friends and they saw it do you think "they" would report you? Don't let these thugs/bullies control you because "you" are doing the right thing and they are not.
Daniel ............... Toronto, Canada