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February 2nd, 2010
09:36 AM ET

Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell…

Today Defense Secretary Robert Gates will go before the Senate Armed Services Committee to reveal the Pentagon’s plan for rolling back the controversial “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy regarding gay and lesbian service members. As a first step, Gates is expected to call for no longer discharging people whose sexual orientation is revealed by others.

The policy, implemented by President Bill Clinton in 1993, bars openly gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals from serving in the U.S. military, and prevents the military from asking them about it.

We want to know your thoughts on the Pentagon’s new plan.

Post your comments and we will read some of your responses from the CNN Newsroom beginning at 10am est.

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soundoff (297 Responses)
  1. Frostey

    I am currently serving in the US army and i really dont care if the policy is lefted or not i mean as long as you keep your ideas out of my house i am fine with it.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:41 am |
  2. Joseph Burke

    In general I am a huge supporter of President Obama. But as far as I know he never served in the military. I did. So I must respectfully disagree here. I would live to see every member of congress who wants to end the ban on gays in the military to go spend a few evenings in a gay NYC bathhouse... than come back and we can have a meaningful discussion on the topic. Until then they are clueless. The only way we can have gays in the military is to have three sets of latrines and showers... M, F & G. and I would like to know where the money is going to come from to retrofit all the military bases and especially US Navy ships. The idea is preposterous.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |
  3. Jason G. Columbus, OH

    I was discharged under the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy in 1996. My question is if this law is reversed, will there be any recourse for individuals who were discharged.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |
  4. Maggi - Chicago

    Seems like these are the same negative comments that were made when there was the "issue" of blacks in the military, and women in the military, and now gays in the military. This is SOOOO long over due and so sad that people are afraid of change.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |
  5. Elizabeth Bennett

    Yes, yes, yes. Because of justice, common sense, and economics. Gay and lesbian servicemen and women are officers and enlisted people who are generously serving all of us. It is long past time for this policy change.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |
  6. John Wright

    I am a retired AF officer who served three tours of duty in VietNam. I support the current Don't Ask Don't Tell. If Gays had been allowed in the service I never would have joined. I think most people in this country and the majority of people around the world share my belief.

    As for the cost, more military are discharged each year than the total Gays discharged since 1994, so the cost argument is bogus. In fact my guess is it will cost more to change the existing policy.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |
  7. Kat

    You can not put a price tag on civil liberties. Period. "Don't Ask" has never made sense and is one of the most embarrassing laws on the books.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:44 am |
  8. Matthew

    Women serve in the military. If the reason to ban someone is because of potential sexual attraction, then women and gay men should both be banned, because they are both attracted to men. Otherwise, it's just bigotry towards gays for somehow being perceived as abnormal.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:44 am |
  9. Pogue Mahone

    I agree with those that say we have more than enough to worry about without adding this to the current mix and I also want to add that we don't need to foist this on the military at the same time they're fighting a two-front war!

    February 2, 2010 at 9:44 am |
  10. Brian

    I'm active duty military and i don't have a problem with serving next to openly gay memebers.

    Problems that are not being adressed is living quaters, showers, etc. What is the difference in having males/females share showers and heterosexual males/homosexual males sharing a shower? NOTHING! these are the problems people are not paying attention to. In the end allowing openly gays to serve will cause more problems than good.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:44 am |
  11. Eric

    The constitution says we are all created equal, everyone! It not not list any exceptions, the debate over equality needs to stop; either everyone is equal or they are not. Everyone should be able to serve if they so choose.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:45 am |
  12. Thomas W.

    This is certainly a step in the right direction, but it is only that; it is not the solution. That our government and military have for so long not simply allowed, but supported discrimination because of someone's sexual orientation is deplorable. I hope that Gates' plan does not fall on deaf ears, though I suspect that just that will happen.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:45 am |
  13. Talal Hamadeh

    people sign up for the military to serve the country and quite frankly not to have sex. so if some others not confidant about their sexuality they should not be in the military to began with.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:45 am |
  14. Jon

    As a student with many friends in Army ROTC and attending ROTC classes I can tell there is a great acceptance of my homosexually. There is no reason to wait to remove this unconstitutional ban. Gays are adults and respect the privacy of other people.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:46 am |
  15. David D. (thenextprez2012)

    We're fighting "terrorists" that do not allow women to do stuff and at the same time we don't allow gays to fight for their country or get how does that makes us any better?
    Discrimination is not cool.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:46 am |
  16. tomi

    let them serve just like everyone else, this is their country too.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:46 am |
  17. James Spalding

    I served in Korea in the U.S. Air Force. We had a man who was gay in our barracks. His bed was directly across from mine. It was not a problem and he was not a threat to the rest of us. That was back in 1970. I don't know why some people are making such an issue of a non-issue. If gays wish to serve their country in the military, they should not be denied that honor.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:47 am |
  18. Anita Runck

    Why fix whats not broken. History has proven a mighty defense for the U,S. so lets not change anything during war time.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:47 am |
  19. Dennis

    I think this whole issue is ridiculous!! I served 23 years in the Army, knew several soldiers who were gay/lesbian and never had an issue with them!!

    They were actually some of the better soldiers that I served with.

    The idea of separate barracks is silly - they have been serving for years!

    It just needs to be changed and it will all go away in a year or two. Yes, you will have the few that will make an issue of it, just like you still have soldiers (enlisted and officer) who don't like blacks, women, any other race except white or any religion except Christian in the our military.

    It is time that the military looked to weed out those who are not capable of serving with anyone who wants to be a productive, participating member of our great military!! I am a retired Army Airborne First Sergeant.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:48 am |
  20. Jacki Moss

    The question of allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military without prejudice is not a matter of economics; it's a matter of civil rights. Would this be an issue if the people singled out were African American, or Hispanic, or simply had curly hair or hazel eyes? The same so-called reasons for curtailing the civil rights of gays and lesbians are the same ones historically used to oppress African Americans and women.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:48 am |
  21. Tory Brown

    Imagine if all of those who were "Gay", were instead ... "BLACK"
    I'm not gay, but I am Black. I come from a long line of veterans. My predecessors had to endure/deal with separate schools, barracks, drinking fountains etc. Should we return to "That" ... for "Them" ? Segregation? Senseless!

    February 2, 2010 at 9:48 am |
  22. Joe

    I am in the military and I think lifting the don't ask don't tell policy is a horrible idea, and I think that is the feeling all around the military! I really didn't want a homosexual watching me while I shower when I was in Basic training or while I am deployed. Plus I think if you are openly homosexual there will be a lot more hate acts against them....

    February 2, 2010 at 9:48 am |
  23. Michael in Boise

    I've served in the military for more than 20 years, and for me, the ban on gays in the military is non-nonsensical.

    At a basic level, who you sleep with does not affect your trigger finger or aim. Gay men and women have served in the military for all of our known history, and with little or no adverse affects on soldiers morale or battle objectives.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:49 am |
  24. Barry Parker

    Gay people love their country and should be allowed to defend and fight for it. Israel, Canada and other countries allow gays to serve and there is no problem with it in their military! Discrimination against gays is wrong and shows the ignorance and ugliness of some Americans...

    February 2, 2010 at 9:49 am |
  25. Dr. Lorna Joachim

    Ok, here's what I want to know...

    How is it that the largest socialized (government controls the means of production) organization in the country has such a discriminatory policy. Is there any other publically funded organization that would be able to by-pass existing anti-discrimination laws?... laws that prohibit other governmentally funded workers from engaging in in this sort of discrimination. Come on... I can't believe we are still having this debate. As a tax-payer I am appalled that my money is being used to discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation. I couldn't do this in my federally job as a professor and it offends me that people in the military are "above the law"!

    February 2, 2010 at 9:49 am |
  26. Brandon

    I think it is absurd in a country like ours people can't serve due to sexual orientation. If someone wants to join the military they should be able to with out fear. Being gay has nothing to do with how you fire a gun,or protect your country.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:50 am |
  27. Edward Lasseigne

    From a political standpoint, President Obama must carry out more of his campaign promises. There are few policy changes that Obama promised more emphatically during the last campaign than allowing qualified gay people to serve openly and honestly in the military. President Obama, step up to the plate and make this long overdue change happen!
    This is also a change where Obama will be able to win some Republican support. A number of moderate Republican senators support allowing the most qualified to serve in the military, regardless of sexual orientation.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:50 am |
  28. Sudhir

    Yes, "don't ask don't tell" should be repealed, since it's fundamentally a civil rights issue. However, the military is not the best of laboratories for civil rights issues, and doing this smack in the middle of two wars is somewhat akin to putting up new wallpaper in the operating room... in the middle of a surgery.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:51 am |
  29. Louise

    While this may be a good gesture, this really will require an amendment to the constitution. As a gay person serves and decides to have a partner, what about benefits for the partner~you have to be a "spouse" to be entitled to those benefits, you have to be married. Yet very few states recognize same-sex marriages. Then who determines the legality of the union? What about being stationed overseas? You have to be married to obtain command sponsorship for your family to go with you. I don't think it is so much the aspect of gays in the military, but once they are allowed to serve openly, then the constitution will have to back up their rights to have a partner in the aspect of a married couple. Will enough states agree to support an amendment to allow same-sex marriages?

    February 2, 2010 at 9:51 am |
  30. Christopher

    I am an NCO in the Air Force and honestly I would rather not know if the guy working beside me is gay. I think that this allows for a more professional and productive military. Why Change what's already working just fine. To say this is about money is absurd.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |
  31. John Verkayk

    I served 6yrs in the military and had no problem serving with Gays! It is estimated that 10% of military personnel are Gay – if true that would equate to about 100,000 troops. Can the military really afford to lose that may troops. Wake up America – Iam a hetrosexual who is not worried about a gay person or atheist serving in a foxhole with me. I would rather be with them in a battle, then some right wing religious nut – say like Osama bin laden?

    February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |
  32. Dawn

    My husband is in the Army. He is currently on his 4th deployment and does not need to worry about who's gay in his company when he's busy fighting in Afghanistan. Don't ask, don't tell should stay in affect for numerous reasons!!!

    February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |
  33. Don


    I’ve got to tell you, that last piece that aired on “DADT” was DUMB… gay and lesbian soldiers have been serving in our military for years and in every part of our military. I served from 1976 – 1998 and I served with them in every rank or grade and every unit I was in from Military Intelligence, the 82nd Airborne Division, Special Forces and Rangers to straight leg infantry units and all I ever experienced from them was professionalism, oh, and everyone knew. As for the “Great Exodus”, I seriously doubt it but if it does occur then those people probably shouldn’t be there anyway because to be a soldier (all services included) you need tolerance. And the idea of separate living areas is just stupid.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |
  34. Joan McIntosh

    Gays in the military, of course. Here's a 73 year-old-great- grandmother with no "gay" family who thinks the present policy is insane. One day science will prove, indisputedly, that being gay isn't a choice. In this country we don't, or shouldn't, punish people for something over which they have no control. Wake up America, the rest of the enlightened world has!

    February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |
  35. Terry Quinn

    DADT should absolutely be repealed. Talented and decorated soldiers, needed translators are being lost due to ridiculous outdated prejudice. So many other countries are beyond this. We exhibit our non-tolerance, a country founded on tolerance, when we continue this law that should never have been instituted. A person should be judged by "the content of their character" as Martin Luther King said and by their knowledge and abilities. In a foxhole, or in a battle, one's sexual oprientation has no meaning whatsoever.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:53 am |
  36. peter hudler dohan

    it was a stupid policy then and is a stupid policy now. in this black history month, glbt is the new civil rights and this is the front of the bus/

    February 2, 2010 at 9:53 am |
  37. John Norris

    That should be an excuse not to serve your Country. I do however, feel that any officer should not be allowed to use his/her influence to force sexual acts from others. Nor should anyone engage in GAY acts while in service.
    Just my thoughts.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:54 am |
  38. Richard

    Kyra – When are your religious groups going to catch up with your scientists? Genetically speaking, there are times when a 'female' wired brain ends up in a male body....or vice-versa. This is clear from the hormone patterns they can measure alone. It's pretty simple stuff, not rocket science. Sometimes I think the right-wing establishment in your country is completely insane.
    A bettter question you should be asking is how much money per year do all these religious groups cost the American taxpayer? Now there's a figure I'd like to hear.

    Modern Thinker

    February 2, 2010 at 9:54 am |
  39. Brian

    What's next? Men showering with women? What's the diff?

    February 2, 2010 at 9:57 am |
  40. Valentina

    Don't ask-don't tell should be abolished. Sadly, the Republicans continue on their goal to "destroy Obama" "kill the healthcare bill and it will be his Waterloo" and will oppose ALL of President Obama's agenda programs. What is it about those statements, made by leadership of the Republican House in various instances, that most people do not understand, one wonders....nobody made them up. Clearly and succinctly, those leaders stated their goal. It is shameful. People should not be penalized for the makeup with which they were born, ever.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:57 am |
  41. Hon. Discharged Major, USAF William Wyttenbach

    Bad idea don't ask, don't tell. It creates two classes of soldiers. Officers cannot date enlisted military so no preferential treatment is given in combat. Officers have to do kid gloves at risk of discrimination charges at best. Worse is the frequent scenario. Gay female soldier marries gay male civilian. She claims him as "spouse"; he gets free medical care adn she gets a big jump in pay for her new "spouse". This needs major investigation.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:57 am |
  42. Renee

    It's sad in today's society that we have to discuss discrimination in our world. I don't see the problem with gays in the military. They deserve the chance to fight for our country too. And we wonder why our children see discrimination in the world today, good job military you are a great role model.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:57 am |
  43. richard korn

    kyra, it's past time that we stop discriminating against homosexuals.i believe some people want the right to continue to discriminate it somehow makes them feel better. it is however a bad and senseless policy. i was amazed to read recently about the number of same sex rapes that were taking place in the military. this further shows that rapes are about violence and about dominating. as to morale problems, that this would cause , the serious problems are due to constant being deployed. changing the policy would be good for the military, good for the country and the right thing to do.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:59 am |
  44. Don Macdonald

    I served in the Air Force in 1962 on and without doubt the gay population was alive and well. I remember clearly as my roommate was gay and made no bones about it. His lifestyle was tolerated by the barracks soldiers and I was well aware of his gay connection beyond our air base. It was simply accepted, at least in our barracks, though for me the butt of peer jokes as my sexual preference was far to the right of the gay population. I made it very clear to my roommate that I was not of his persuasion and I cannot remember any problems between us or the rest of the troop in our barracks for that matter.

    February 2, 2010 at 9:59 am |
  45. Diana

    Hello Kyra

    People should remember when blacks were not allowed to be folded into the various branches of the milatary. We all know this has been a big sucess. It is sick that we can't get over including gays on an open basis. If anyone be they gay or straight breaks the rules they get ousted, otherwise we should be honored that they are glad to serve. Diana

    February 2, 2010 at 9:59 am |
  46. Fearnuhn

    The DADT, is the best policy for us military members. Doing away with it would be a bad move. I have been serving for the last 15 years, if the law that works is repealed I wouldn't do 25 years as planned. There are too many unforeseen issues that would arise and create major problems for the military.

    Allowing gays to openly serve would not in anyway help the military, it will hurt.

    What makes the US Military strong is it's diversity, we have Soldiers who's culture would not permit them to be housed with a gay room mate. We are not England, Canada nor Isrel.

    Ask the Drill Sergeant's at Basic Training and AIT, about some of the growing problems.

    FOB Marez, Iraq

    February 2, 2010 at 10:01 am |
  47. Mary Groce

    Dear Kyra,

    Regarding "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"–

    It feels like we're back in the 40's, trying to decide if blacks should be allowed in the military. Maybe we need a "Tuske-gay Airmen" division! Hello! This is a Civil Rights issue! If gays are to be banned from the military and from marriage, then maybe gays should be exempt from paying taxes, too!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:02 am |
  48. Danny

    Most military infrastructure implements the segregation from man and woman. This is mainly for privacy and safety. The military also segregates to keep the allegations of sexual offenses at a minimum. Most male and female living quarters, especially in a training and wartime environment, are wide open for all to see. This includes the "locker room" style bathroom and bathing areas. To allow gays to openly express themselves would mean they too would have to be segregated. We must not only think of the rights of gays, but also those of people who are not gay and those people who's religious beliefs help guide their lives. The Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) also prohibits actions such as sodomy. To allow gays to practice their beliefs would also mean to allow them to sodomize . It would also open the door for many allegations of unwanted sexual advances, from the same sex. I don't believe our current system is broke, why put the Military through the hardship. We already have the burden of fighting unpopular wars, don't kick us while were down.

    Active duty military for 12 years and counting.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:02 am |
  49. peter seberger

    As with all things governmental, the devil will be in the details. One gay's vision of serving openly may be acceptable to other troops, another's not so much. Most civilians do not grasp the concept of on duty 24/7/365 because they aren't paid or expected to be so available to their employer. Military members, expecially in war zones, do not have real "off duty" time and the last thing they need is additional tensions "openly" gay conduct will introduce.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:03 am |
  50. Richard Seastrand

    This debate is absurd. Gays serving openly in the military exists in most Europeon countries without any problems. The issue boils down to predjudice and hate. With our country's moderate success in dealing with these issues, their will always be a minority who seem to need a group to dump on. I like to believe that minority is shrinking.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:06 am |
  51. Mitch Ruchti

    I believe it's completely ridiculous and sad that people are truly concerned and even discussing that abolishing "Don't ask, Don't tell" would either raise or lower our tax dollars! This is a moral issue and the American ideal that "All men are created equal." What would people have said if we were more concerned about what would happen to our tax dollars during the time of the Civil Rights movement? It saddens me that this is even being talked about between our Political leaders and polls being taken by certain colleges.
    Mitch Ruchti
    Pocatello, Idaho

    February 2, 2010 at 10:06 am |
  52. edda

    Very simple – stop hyperventilaing about this
    Treat ALL persons & military personnell EQUALLY –
    based on BEHAVIOUR – there is a dress code in place, and surely also for proper appearance – like make up and hair 'fashion'.
    ANYONE misbehaving = like overt expression of sexuality – ANY sexuality – should be dealt with accross the board.
    ALL persons should be treated with respect – especially men – straight men – towards women.
    So why not check and manage behaviour for straights and 'gay' the same. Should save all problems.
    No 'dating', no sex, no harrassment of any kind, no excessive expressions of sexual behavior and speech – and 'jokes'.
    So sleeping together should not be a problem. There is no reason that sleeping together in tents r in the field -should have to lead to sex.
    Affection towards men or women must also be checked and be appropriate. Anything else – straight and gay – KEEP it in the closet = private and out of sight.
    In the world at large – I do not see why the 'gay' community needs to have 'gay' parades – with excessive demonstrations of shocking sexuality and dressing and behavior .
    Are the heterosexuals demanding sex parades ??? Thy are doing it on Internet = pornograqhy, etc.
    Keep sexuality – a very basic and needed instinct – PRIVATE and personal. All should be expressed in private- with respect and dignity – behind closed doors as available.
    For one thing – there is a LOT more disgusting crime being committed by heterosexuals than by 'gays'. !!!!!!!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:06 am |
  53. Dan McMenamin

    Only people that desire to legislate morals are concerned.
    Women in the military has not created a big sex issue.
    People work together all the time without having sex....
    What is the issue?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:10 am |
  54. Richard W. Lewis, Sr.

    I served in both the 82d and the 101st Airborne Divisions.
    As a Gay American Citizen I served to protect ALL Americans.
    Now it is time for us to protect our Gay & Lesbian troops

    February 2, 2010 at 10:10 am |
  55. michaeljwjr

    As a former U.S. Marine who enlisted shortly after Don't Ask Don't Tell was implemented I am only surprised the decision to change this decision took so long.

    I feel as if this decision is overdue and any reports of military members leaving because of the reversal of the policy, I only mention the same thing happened when they allowed minorities equal rights, and again when they allowed women into the military.

    Let's join the ranks of other civilized countries, and show tolerance.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:11 am |
  56. John Goodwin

    I have no problem with openly gay males and females serving in the military. I do think it will hurt and help morale. Homophobia runs rampant in the military but so does homoeroticism. It's time we as a people grow up and move on. I've served with many homosexuals during my time in the military, and I trust them just as much as those that are heterosexual. Move on America!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:11 am |
  57. Clay

    So gays can fight for our country but can't marry the one they love?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:11 am |
  58. Joe Heller

    How can there be a question? This country was found on the premise that it is self-evident that "all men are created equal".

    The other day CNN aired a segment where several gay servicemen were interviewed and their faces were blocked out because if their identities were revealed their careers would be terminated. It reminded me of witnesses against the mafia hiding for fear of their lives.

    These were AMERICAN servicemen who put their lives on the line for our country – afraid to be identified? It SHAMEFUL.

    Don't ask don't tell is born of ignorance and fear and is unconstitutional as well as immoral. It should be immediately repealed.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:12 am |
  59. Rod

    The US is so far behind the rest of the world on this issue. This policy does nothing to help our military readiness and should be put in the history books as soon as possible.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:12 am |
  60. michael murphy

    Great segment on gays in the military. My brother was a military man in the 1980's and he did not mind the two gays in his unit at all. He figured that (1) anyone who could not say "no" to any advance by another shouldn't be in the military anyway (not that it ever happened), and (2)he was happy that these guys did not compete for women during leave. Great sense of humor. The most appaling thing about the dismissals is the extreme risk we were placed in immediately before and after 9/11 when our best Arab linguists were dismissed. What critical information must have slipped by us! So stupid!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:13 am |
  61. Mike Cooper

    It makes me wonder how the NFL deals with gays in its organization since the NFL and the Infantry have a lot in common.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:13 am |
  62. Reed from NYC

    The current policies enforced are a result of ignorance. If gays are fearless in their service to America, then why should they live in fear while in uniform, simply as a result of the fear of those who cannot handle the truth of others? Where is the real cowardice here? Gay men & women who have the courage to serve their country under such scrutiny & duress are even more qualified, in my opinion, based on their resiliency & willingness to put their country first. The issue of sexuality is a non-issue, and should be treated the same as gender or race.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:13 am |
  63. Phyllis O'Dell

    It's about time that our fellow citizens who wish to serve their country have the same rights as others who wish to do the same. We need to stop placing people in artificial categories that are meaningless. And, we need all the volunteers we can get to support our armed services.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:14 am |
  64. Brenda

    It is time that the military changed "the don't ask, don't tell policy". No one should have to hide their sexual orientation to serve their country.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:14 am |
  65. Marius

    Separate but equal is anything but. I also served and servied as a GAY man along with my straight service men and women. Everyone was aware and none seemed to care. No retrofit is necessary, other than teaching that being gay is not a threat to others masculinity or the lack thereof.

    We as Americans are in debt to ALL that serve, and to treat gays differently is truly a disgrace.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:15 am |
  66. Manny

    I didn't agree with Don't ask, Don't tell. It makes honorable soilders live a lie: a direct violation of their duty and oath. That said, the military is not a social exercise. It has an objective, it has missions to execute. I think outwardly sexual behavior (i.e. heterosexual or homosexual) can reduce good order and discipline (remember "Tailhook"). So while I might get rid of this stupid Clinton policy, I would not expect to see folks in drag.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:15 am |
  67. Joyce

    It is high time this law was repealed! It was an Anachronism when it was first put into place. These young men and women are doing what many of us don't have the courage to do in order to preserve our freedom and way of life. Let them serve their country and be discharged with honor. May God bless them for their tremendous sacrifice!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:15 am |
  68. Aubrey

    I find it utterly ridiculous that anyone would be barred from serving our country with such deep commitment because of sexual orientation. Anyone who is willing to risk their life for the citizens of this country should at the very least be given the basic freedoms that they defend. The"don't ask don't tell policy" needs to be laid to rest now.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  69. Don

    From the comments I see here it’s not the gay or lesbian soldiers that would need the separate showers… it’s the “real men” who have issues with their own sexuality… but it’s OK to let a “straight” man see you in a shower or nude…hmmm. People, I have news for you, some of those tough “real men” that you know and shower with are probably gay or watching you. Too funny… (seriously, pun was indeed intended). And no, I’m not gay I’m just open minded enough to accept people for who they are, even bigots.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  70. DADT outdated

    The DADT policy is out dated. It is treated as a "if someone knows you are gay, they hold your career in their hands." This puts a strain on individuals who are just trying to do the right thing. Living in fear is not conducive to accomplishing the mission, and should not be an issue. If people want to serve their country, they should be allowed with out having to hide who they are. One value the military preaches is "Integrity." So on one hand they are telling you to "be truthful" and with the DADT they are saying, "don't tell, and lie so you can stay in and serve."

    February 2, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  71. D. Glidden

    Could somebody please tell me how any conversation of allowing gays in the military (something already known to have occurred) addresses the problems confronting terrorism and/or overshadows the issues of everyone’s rights? Discretion being the better the part of valor (as in so many other cases) has always seemed to be the proper venue. Addressing all prejudice at every level (not one at a time) should remain at the forefront. Protection of successful military operations and minimal improper drama disruptions (where to draw a line) must follow hand in hand with any decision and must be included in any verdict. Addressing this one issue at that moment in time just seems to be an attention deflecting maneuver that may very well not have been our Presidents (doesn’t it always seem odd that at such moments a small majority issue seems to overshadow everything else?) Aren’t the miscommunications, misapplication, and misconduct of certain intelligence agencies (etc.) a little more important? Tactically speaking wouldn’t it be wise to announce to the world that America would be sending 30,000 more troops after at least half had already been safely in place? Where does it benefit anybody other than our enemies in announcing any planned departure or arrival dates? What difference’s did we see or hear the other night from any other time? Absolutely nothing. “Most Sincerely”,

    February 2, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  72. J Brice Graves

    I am in favor of eliminating any restrictions on gays and Lesbians serving in the military. The policy of discharging those who are gay and lesbian is too costly in dollars but even more is its cost to the American ideal valuing everyone for who they are and what they can contribute. The idea that lifting the ban would disrupt unit discipline is simply disproved by the fact that many are now serving and no real problems have occurred. Other countries also allow openly gay and lesbian service without problems.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  73. steve kittelberger

    Don't Ask/don't tell?

    It's time for the US military to "just do it." If the Defense Department needs a few weeks to develop a game plan, well okay. I'm not sure why they need this time, but I'm not in their seats.

    This whole issue of gays in the military should be yesterday's news. It's time to acknowlege that they are there, that they make good soldiers, and that it's a non-issue. Get on with it.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:17 am |
  74. Melissa From Winnipeg

    Hello Kyra I find it hilarious that this is even up for discussion. It shouldn't have existed in the first place. In a time of war and poverty and economic failure and climate change being gay in the military is the least of everyone's problems. The last time I checked it's not like people are lining up like cattle to serve their country and enlist. The fact that one may be gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered is irrelevant as long as the job gets done and the country is secure. To Mr John Boehner I ask this. What is the difference between a solder serving as an out and proud homosexual VS say the lovely David Vitter who also holds a position that is supossed to be respectable but yet look at his actions. People need to look past their own preferences and beliefs and accept that EVERYONE is not the same, and as long as no one is being killed, or hurt in the process we should all support one another.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:17 am |
  75. Carol

    I think our gay troops would rather die fighting for our country than being killed during a hate crime.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:17 am |
  76. SixMileMike

    Some people are saying this will hurt unit cohesion and may cause many soldiers to leave the service. This one-size-fits-all argument was used against black soldiers and female soldiers, and now it's being used against gay soldiers.

    To any soldier that leaves over this issue, I say GOOD RIDDANCE!
    Bigots, homophobes, racists, sexist ... we're better off without them.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:17 am |
  77. LtGen Gary Hughey, USMC(retired)

    Some people are born left handed. Yet, the military has never procured a rifle for left handed shooters. Nonetheless the "southpaws" have fired their weapons accurately and served our nation with distinction.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:19 am |
  78. Estelle H Rosenblum,

    This policy of "No Tell" is ridiculous. There shouldn't be outward displays of homosexuality or heterosexuality in the military. Why are we asking soldiers to lie about their sexual preferences?
    What one does in one's private life is one's business. Only if inappropriate displays of either homosexual or heterosexual conduct is made, is there a problem. What is the difference.
    Universities and colleges and schools have dealt with this issue for decades. Focus on service and military preparedness and give up this disconcerting attention to something that is personal and private.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:19 am |
  79. ann hoenigman

    If these young men and women are willing to put there life on the line to fight for America, how could we challenge them because they are homosexual?
    They did not choose to be homosexual. We should thank them as we do all of our other military for being willing to serve.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:20 am |
  80. Alex

    I agree with appealing the DADT policy. I feel if a man or woman want and are able to protect and serve our country then by all means to do.

    However I heard a good point against the DADT policy:

    What is to stop a male gay individual who has gone up through the ranks for many years and now being free and able to serve being openly gay and with the power of his rank, he takes advantage of his freedom by harassing new young recruits or making a pass on other men knowing they cannot retaliate due to his high rank?

    In other words: your typical bully scenario may happen such as: " if you don't do this you'll be sorry" – Imagine a gay general who likes a young buck new in the academy – poor kid is gonna go through hell if he does not respond to the generals advances.

    What is to stop gay men and women from basically harassing other's? Yes, there are rules and strict regime but the Army is just like High School not to mention it will make other men and women uncomfortable that may not agree, lets think about them.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:20 am |
  81. Erik

    I did not join the Air Force in 1996 because of this rule. The Air force called me every day for a week to join after I was processed at MEPS and offered me some great positions. I am a quiet person, however I didn't want to be kicked out if someone found out I was gay. At the time, I wanted to serve my country, but felt shameful. I went to college instead and now I'm a pharmacist.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:20 am |
  82. Vicente Carlos palmeri

    Understanding that gays persons should have all the rights available to all people, the case of sharing bedrooms and showers in the military makes a different scenario. When afroamericans were admitted in the military they were all men. When women were added, white and afroamericans, they had their privacy, the military created barracs for them, they did not share showers and bedrooms with the men. If they can provide different accomodations for gay and lesbiasn then I see no problems in terminating the current rules. Otherwise how long will it take to start hearing about the "abuses" , "jokes" etc gay people will have to stand by their camarads? Many soldiers (and most humans) feel unconfortable showering with somebody from the opossite sex, what is the difference when the other person is gay? NONE.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:20 am |
  83. michael page

    It's about time.....If my "gay taxes" are good enough to pay for my country's military, I should certainly be able to fight for my country without hiding who I am.....

    February 2, 2010 at 10:21 am |
  84. Steve


    I'm not in the military so I'm not sure how much my opinion would matter but it wouldn't bother me at all. Keep your hands to yourself at work (so to speak) is a good enough policy.

    I think a more interesting issue would be are there any bisexual women in the media? Could a woman in the media say so if she wanted to without a producer/manager bothering her for a date?

    The media in general seems to be concerned about this issue, so why doesn't the media lead the way?


    February 2, 2010 at 10:21 am |
  85. Kathleen

    I served in the USN. And I had to deal with gays being in my shower at boot camp and on my ship living in my birthing and at my shore duty command. I had to share a bathroom with a gay neighbor in my barracks, I hate that too, I couldn't just get out of the shower and dry off, she was very OPEN and had told me that she was attracted to me, but what I could do about that? I had make sure she wasn't going to come in. It's like having to share a bathroom with a guy, The military would never allow that. so how can they allow a young woman or man to have to share that very personal space and time with someone who is like the opposite sex.. Do you understand? I hated that I left my small town Christian life to serve my country, and then have to deal with what I saw, women kissing women in the dark on my ship, women trying to kiss me. My husband was even hit on by another man, and had to deal with some serious issues with that. It was bad enough being 18 yrs old and in the military, away from home and family and friends. Gays should not be in the military, and the Military should not separate them either, can you imagine the barracks? gay men sharing rooms with gay women? How can they do that on the ship? All of this reminds me of how young girls would pregnant just to get our of going underway.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:22 am |
  86. Wendell- Columbia, SC

    To me, Don't Ask Don't Tell is for homosexuals what Whites Only was for Black Americans. It's seen to most as a form of hate and separation. America is a great place filled with all kinds of great people, who want to fight for their country. It's high time America's Military takes note and start to practice what the country preaches!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:23 am |
  87. Anita Peterson

    I am a 65 year old woman and I want to say MAN-UP to all you old military fuddy-duddies, male & female that oppose repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Give me a break, do you really think some gay recruit is going to attack you in the shower?? I am far more concerned about the number of straight male recruits that rape female recruits and get away with it. This has been an on-going problem for years and very little has been done about it. I am not gay nor do I have any gay family members but I say let them live their lives with the same opportunities the rest of us have. Most gay people that I know are more intelligent, creative and caring than the majority of us "normal" people. This is a no brainer---MAN-UP!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:24 am |
  88. Steve

    If homosexuals want to serve our country, God bless them.

    In college my wrestling practice partner was gay. I am not. I never felt like he was trying to feel me up, make advances toward me, any of that. We had a mutual respect for one another– he understood that I was straight and respected my boundaries. In turn, I respected his privacy and appreciated him confiding in me.

    That has been just a fraction of my experience with homosexuals in college and the world beyond. They are not defective. They should not be second-class citizens. They don't try to "turn" or "recruit" heterosexuals. Heck, they don't even WANT to be attracted to straight people because they know it won't work. They are just like everyone else and in most cases you wouldn't know they were gay unless they told you.

    Don't ask, don't tell was a failure from the start. How, in a situation when you're at work 24/7/365, are your supposed to hide your personal life from your employer? I know people who can't even do that while working 40hrs a week.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:24 am |
  89. Kat

    After more than half a century of living, it's my feeling that the fear of working with gays focuses on the "concept" of how their sexual persausian might come out in the workplace rather than how an individual gay actually interacts with his/her co-workers.

    Although straight myself, I have occasionally met a gay man or woman in the work place. The truth is: Their goals and dreams are no different than mine. Although the topic of lifestyle difference has been known to come up in the breakroom over coffee once or twice, no one has ever tried to come on to me or persuade me to be like them. Instead, they laughed, cried and struggled in life the same way I did. Once I realized that, some ended up as friends and some didn't. In the end they are just people that want to live their lives without persecution.

    I can do that and I believe our country should to.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:25 am |
  90. Jeff H

    It's ashame that in this country which was founded on personal freedom, choice and the pursuit of happiness we have so many in our society that feel they have a right to discriminate. Its like a oxymora running rampid and out of countrol. Double standard. I have what I have and believe what I believe but sorry you have no choice. Gays in the military should have never been discriminated on from the begining. It should have never been a question of rights. The right to take away rights is wrong.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:25 am |
  91. Georgery Fields

    Its about time that this was changed, as a straight man, with a gay brother, and after serving my country 23 years. It seems like we need to face this realistically. I know many gay service members, and they have for the most part served honorably.
    Isnt this also a constitutional issue??? Isnt there something in the constitution that states "All men are created Equal" shouldn't these men and woman not entitled to serve their country....

    February 2, 2010 at 10:26 am |
  92. Sonja from Florida

    As a female veteran od the mid to late 70's, this whole topic puzzles me; I served with openly gay women who were never criticized or thrown out, and even where a "couple" was very open in my own flight section. Maybe some of the males were less open, but the fact remained, NO ONE CARED. I can't imagine why intolerance is not curtailed in the military, as it it is in civilian life. It is just stupid and an obvious indication of the average educatiion level of recruits and the level of overall understanding of ground and other troops serving by members of the Pentagon who make such inane desicions.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:26 am |
  93. Lori Gardyko

    Wake up America and get over your sexual hangups! What's next. No women? No people who drink or smoke? How about no one who isn't christian, white and male. I've never met a gay person who wasn't exceptionally articulate, intelligent and educated. Not to mention, well groomed and fit. As a straight female, it's always disappointing to learrn they're not available, as they are generally so much more attractive and accomplished than the straight white men who persecute them. The only danger in the military is the stress created by forcing people to live a lie. We need every able-bodied person available who is willing to put their life on the line. The people who have a problem with gay people are the ones who are an embarrassment to this country, as they reveal what a narrow-minded, bigoted, ignorant nation we still are.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:28 am |
  94. Julie

    If these men and women are brave enough to lay their lives on the line for us...we should be brave enough to accept them for who they are and put this behind us.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:28 am |
  95. Donna Bradley

    Gay soldiers have been fighting and dying in wars for centuries .If these young men and women are willing to fight and die for us and this country what does their sexual orientation have to do with it .We are so foolish in this country about sex... I never worry about or ask grown adults about who they have sex with, and if they are standing in harms way for me bullits do not worry whom they hit .

    February 2, 2010 at 10:28 am |
  96. Kathleen

    Don't ask don't tell, if you don't like it, join the Peace Corps.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:29 am |
  97. nate

    As a former service man I see no problem with a persons sexual preferences:OFF DUTY.
    When we (men, women, gay, straight or whatever legal lifestyle one choose's) puts on the uniform we represent our country and teammates, not all those brothers and sisters agree with a gay lifestyle, and that is ok and should be respected. But that is not a free ticket to bash and harass someone's lifestyle! Keep it professional! Live your life how you want in your off time: when you put on the uniform you should ALL act like the professional you are!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:30 am |
  98. Tom Sleeper

    Those never in the military don't understand the enlisted ranks, where the GI's in the barracks and billets hold things like blanket parties for gays and other enlisted personnel they disapprove of. In the dead of night they throw a blanket over someone in their bunk and literally kick and punch the living bejesus out of them, often to the point where they need immediate medical attention. Gays in the BOQ's and noncoms lead a far more sheltered existence. In my opinion, Don't Ask, Don't Tell is probably still the best policy in the enlisted ranks when not everyone shares the modern opinion on gay rights.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:30 am |
  99. Joe Lopez

    Me being a former 2 time Military war veteran I have nothing against gays, but I feel that it is a big mistake if the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy is lifted. Although I understand that they want to come out the closet, but why must they disrespect our military uniform by coming out? At the end of the day, why do you want to share your sexual preferences with your peers and subordinates? Equal opportunity? We are all soldiers, our job is to defend this country, not to let everyone know that you’re flamboyant or that you prefer your sexual orientation to be with someone the same gender as you. Being gay will always be taboo in the military Why come out while you are wearing the uniform? Do your job and keep your sexual orientation to yourself, I don’t need to know what your sexual preferences are, keep that at home and to yourself. Even us stright people don’t share our sexual preferences.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:31 am |
  100. Lisa

    Don't ask, don't tell. Is this to say that "if I don't know they are gay, they do not exist"? I have struggled with this concept for years.

    It seems to me that there will be no real resolve of this issue as long as GLBT's are purceived as anything but normal and productive members of society, as is the assumption of heterosexual people. Oh Pleeze. A person's integrety shines over their sexual preference, in my experience.

    To those who post about 'tensions "openly" gay conduct will introduce', what makes you any more 'safe' if you don't 'know' the sexual preference of the one in the bunk next to you? My god, do you get up in the morning and look around you to see who is looking at your junk? Give me a break.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:32 am |
  101. kirsten parrish

    Let them serve openly with dignity and pride!The people with a problem with gays have a problem with their own identity, and with anyone that isnt like themselves.I preferred the gays I served with to the macho men that had something to prove.This IS the 21st century!Kirsten Parrish US Air Force,Retired.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:34 am |
  102. W Hinds

    Kyra I do not have a problem with gays and lesbians in the military since they have are serving their country. However the choice of keeping it quiet should be theirs and not ours, and we should support their effort to serve their country in whatever way they choose. We are not god to judge others when our days has come we all will be judge according to ways on this earth.I am not gay nor do I love them but they are all human just like me and you.God will take of the rest peace God bless us all and God bless America.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:35 am |
  103. Teri

    As a combat veteran and lesbian I believe this policy is a joke. Gay and Lesbian service men and women populate many units of the military. These Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines serve just as honorably as any other warrior. The debate about looking at a person differently under fire is ridiculous. If an individual is focusing on anything other than the actual battle then that person should be banned from the military as they propose a greater risk to their fellow service members then a person serving openly. As a final point, how do we claim to be a great nation founded on freedom, when we deny the freedom of serving openly to those who provide freedom to millions of Americans?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:36 am |
  104. Valeria T

    Re: DADT. I still do not understand the fuss over this. maybe it's just me, but I personally do not feel the need to know whether or not the person working next to me is gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered. It is simply none of my business, it is something that each individual should be allowed to keep private, to themselves. The only thing that should be changed, if change needs to happen, is the business of forcing openly gays to be discharged.

    To Joseph Burke:
    I'm sorry but that comment does not make sense either. We would not need to have three separate showers. There's no reason why gay men and non gay men, or gay women and non gay women, couldn't be in the same bath facilities. I would think people serving in the military would have enough respect for one another, so that homosexual men would not be 'coming on' to non homosexual men, and so on.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:37 am |
  105. leon j harris

    Please lets STOP the press. I severed with GAY MEN and WOMEN 20 years and if you want to be honest. A Bullet does not care who it KILLS. People get over it !!!!!!!!!!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:41 am |
  106. Rita

    Homosexuals in the military – if it is such a good idea why aren't heterosexuals asked after 1st promising them amnesty for their answer

    February 2, 2010 at 10:41 am |
  107. Nicole

    If you're in a close quarter combat situation you're concern is about the sexuality of your fellow warrior instead of combat maybe the military isn't the where you should be.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:41 am |
  108. sam

    no way should the government repeal this law. I served in the military, and would not want to have known who was gay and who wasn't. In my opinion gays shouldn't be allowed in at all. It would be disruptive and not in the best interest of a military lifestyle to let them be open

    February 2, 2010 at 10:42 am |
  109. Brooke

    Don't ask, don't tell policy is a facade. Recruits are required to sign a statement saying that they are not gay as part of their processing paperwork before ever leaving for bootcamp.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:42 am |
  110. Michael Vash

    I think it's funny that these guys can go into combat dodging bullets and they are more scared of a gay man that might be looking at their "Privates".

    February 2, 2010 at 10:42 am |
  111. Jared Lee

    I was raised not to like gays. But if thay are willing to die for my country then to me thay have a right to be proud and to not live a lie. I wouldent want to live a lie, would you?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:43 am |
  112. Kimberly

    I'm an Airmen in the Air Force and frankly I don't care if we have gays in the military! I think's it absolutley disgusting how we can just turn our backs on our fellow warriors because of their sexual orientation. Many of the Homosexuals are some of the most hard working commited Military members that you will EVER KNOW! LET THEM STAY!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:43 am |
  113. Bob

    I have served in the military and have worked in corporate America where Gays do not have to hide. Their personal life and behavior does not affect them and they are ture professionals. Your assumption that Gays will behave inappropriately is unfair and disrectful.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:44 am |
  114. Ashley

    Do they think there are no gays in the military right now? We, (the troops) know who is gay and who is not. Does it impact combat readiness? No. I think the major issue is sexual harrassment. If a gay person hits on you consistently, and you vocalize that you don't want that, that's sexual harrassment. Same if a straight soldier does it.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:44 am |
  115. Shannon

    Its not whether gays can or cannnot fight its their adverse distraction of the rest of the troops. Its basically if the troops percieve a problem with gays then there is problem.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:44 am |
  116. Stephen Wilson

    Blacks were integrated in the Military after World War 2. The exact same (inaccurate) arguments against gays were said about Blacks.

    p.s. I am a white straight combat veteran

    February 2, 2010 at 10:45 am |
  117. Chuck

    I was in the military for seven years and I believe in the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Why bring this up when there are so many other things we need to be working on?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:45 am |
  118. Ray

    If someone wants to serve in the military, it should not make a difference if that person is gay or straight, especially now.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:45 am |
  119. Marcus in Greensboro, NC

    I do not understand how they can tell soldiers to lie and violate their integrity to serve in the military. It violates the Honor Code, and I think it is sad that countries that we see as inferior to us, i.e., Israel, can let go of their religious background to understand it is not something they should force people to do. How are they living up to the Code if they have to lie about who they are. No one is saying they have to tell everyone that they are gay, but if they are close with their unit they should be able to confide in them. They talk about being a band of brothers, but being a brother means you have to accept your brother regardless of your differences. My brother is straight as an arrow, and I am a proud gay man, but we accept each other for who we are. We are night and day in the way we do everything, but we accept our differences.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:45 am |
  120. Joe S.

    Not only should "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" be rescinded, the military should proactively provide training for all troups regarding homosexuality so that the biases, untruths, stigmas, etc. can also be eradicated. As it is, illiteracy regarding gays and lesbians, who they are, how they think (no differently, I might add!), and what they have to deal with all their lives for being gay only helps foster stereotypes, mistrust, and misguided responses to gays everywhere. Let's all come out and know one another and understand how much we're all the alike, not just what makes us different.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  121. Barbara Navarro

    I wish you had asked Rep. Hunter if President Truman was wrong to integrate African-Americans into the military, since many white soldiers might have objected to sharing quarters with African-Americans in that era.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  122. frankie

    When "don't ask don't tell" was first implemented, I could not believe that dishonesty was being made part of the military code, and I was glad to hear this point discussed on your show. I rationalized to myself back then, well, it must be a temporary necessity to have such a rule. It is time to get beyond that senseless policy. Anyone who wants to serve this country should serve, period. And I thank them all for serving.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  123. jim schmidt

    A few gay privates won't effect readiness; however, gay combat leaders will be disastrous. The Bible clearly identifies homosexuality a sin. Troops will have difficulty following leaders that they believe are immoral into combat.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  124. Colleen

    Kyra, please explain to the Congressman that he had been fighting and living with gays without his knowledge and accepted them. It seems this is more about about his personal comfort level. He can't seem to differintiate the difference between professional conduct and personal choice.

    Another example of a Congress person voting for what they believe, not the people as a whole. When are they going to get it?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  125. Reyna

    Dear Kyra I served 6 years as an openlly lesbian and I had no problems what so ever Gay SGT

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  126. Rick Moreno

    I was in the military and brother is gay. Although I love my brother dearly I believe that doing away with 'Don't ask,Don't tell' will do large amounts of damage to the bonds that are vital to troops and the environment they live in.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  127. Garland Tillery

    The Constitution and Bill of Rights are being left out of this discussion. The true patriots are gays and lesbians who risk their lives every day for people who deny them their basic, fundamental rights which are supposed to be guaranteed to them.

    Virginia Beach, VA

    February 2, 2010 at 10:46 am |
  128. Brian

    There is no problem with don’t ask don’t tell. The problem is the people that are making the policies on this are not the same people that are serving on the front lines with the “open” soldiers, and as far as the senators response about the amount of money spent on chaptering, or replacing the soldiers on line is not reality, because based upon my experience the solders that get chapters for don’t ask don’t tell ask to be chaptered under it. So from the soldiers serving on the front lines, leave it alone.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:47 am |
  129. Steve

    As an 8-year veteran, I know what its like to serve in the military as a gay man. Now in the private sector, I again know what its like to work next to people wo are and are not "gay-friendly".

    While serving, I knew who to come out to. I do not belive that will change. most men do not disclose until they believe the person is comfortable with being around someone who is gay. I personally would never, whether in the military, or now in the private sector, or even in my neighborhood, come out to many of the guests on your show defending DADT. These people may neve be aware of the number of gay men and women they are exposed to every day.

    In addition, I was discharged for being gay. My discharge does not state that as the reason. The true number of the DADT discharges may never be known. My discharge was noted as General – Hardship.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:47 am |
  130. Nathan

    As an NCO in the Air Force for the past 12 years, I've witnessed several people who have been discharged from the USAF for being gay. I firmly believe this policy should remain in place so that we may maintain the professional atmosphere within units throughout the military. I'm only afraid of change when we change something that doesn't need to be changed. I think we as a country should put our focus on the war and finding terrorists who want to do us harm and leave the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" alone.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:48 am |
  131. Karmen

    Kyra, it is obvious where you stand on this subject. Your interview with the veterans could have been more objective. If CNN is trying to be balanced the anchors should keep personal opinions to themselves. Your tone gave away your position.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:48 am |
  132. kal

    This is the reason i didnt wanna reenlist back into the millitary i didnt wanna be stuck in the millitary know they were gonna just start letting gays openly enlist i dont care if they are already there i just dont want to who they are i wouldnt wanna be stuck in the same barracs or on the same ship with them. The last thing our millitary needs is to have our enemys knowing we have those kind of people in it.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:48 am |
  133. Sujata

    Heterosexuals dont bring sexuality into the workplace and annoy their colleagues, why do people think homosexuals would do that? I dont know any homosexuals but it is unfair to force people to be quiet about something so important to them.

    Besides, hiding stuff would just make soldiers feel more vulnerable and less bonded with their fellow soldiers.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:48 am |
  134. Dennis Lurvey

    as a Vietnam vet I would make sure the sexual harasment laws applied to same sex cases. Its bad enough being stuck in a bunker or tower with someone totally different from you; but to have to listen to his gay stories or have him spend eight hours trying to tell me that everyone is gay would make me want to shoot him. Imagine two gay soldiers stuck on a remote post for 8 to 12 hours; I wonder what they would do to pass the time?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  135. Chuck Tampa, Fl

    If the situation is changed it will deter many young men and women from entering military service. In my 23 years of service if you told me that I had to shower or sleep next to a homosexual male I would have most likely left the military or never joined.
    This is simply a move to appeal to the gay vote in America due to upcoming elections.
    Listen to the Chiefs of Staff. They are the experts on this.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  136. Arine Ward

    @Jim Schmidt
    You're really far out...don't and I repeat don't bring the "Bible" into this in that fashion...When it also list a big list in the New Test...1Corthin 6 Chp you should read...And Such Were Some Of no sin is greater or bigger than another...Leave God out of this you dealing in a area you Don't Want to tread...

    February 2, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  137. Justin

    I am a Sergeant in the Army and I think that asking gays to simply not come out and say they are gay, isnt asking much. To be completely honest, I dont care if gays are serving in the military if I am not aware of it. As soon as the military and the american people say that it is acceptable to have gays openly advertise themselves, it will cause a political mess with the non-gay soldiers. There are way too many issues in the Army with Race, Gender, and discrimination. Sexual assault and harrassment is a huge issue in the military right now. Having homosexuals being able to openly pursue their relationships with other soldiers will just make everything worse. The military doesnt need another reason to make acceptions for members of the military because some people want to be acknowledged as being gay.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  138. Bj

    I just watched the short debate just now and I do not have a good feeling for the congressional debate tonight. No disrespect intended but Rep. Hunter avoided the issue completely and went completely around every question Kyra had to ask. I thought the point of a debate was to address the issue at hand, and not talk about other issues that one may think are more important. I have a feeling that is what is going to happen tonight, and the issue will fade right back into the background. It is sad, and i hope that I am wrong, but it is what I am expecting. I am a realist. We shall see tonight.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:49 am |
  139. ginger

    i do not believe that being gay in the military has anything to do ,with whether my fellow commrade fighting for his/or her country. we all are there for a reason and being gay is not one of them. most of my friends are gay and they do not bother me at all. they themselves no who they can trust or not. if he or she is in the military they are there for the same reason anyone is and that is for the safety of our country,these bias people have to get over this. i give him or her credit to be in the military and fighting for our countries safety and i would trust them before i would trust a hetero- sexual, with a very small mind

    February 2, 2010 at 10:50 am |
  140. Robert

    Someone said they don't want to know if the guy next to them is gay because it will make for a more professional military. As a former gay soldier who was never "out," I can't believe someone would say that. The military isn't a 9-5 professional career its a 24/7-365 lifestyle job that requires the backing and support of everyone who you left back home. The military family is more important to the unit cohesiveness than any gay solider serving along side them could ever destroy. The fact the gay soldier can't have that level of support in backing by their closest friends and family back home is a shame. That support gets you through the deployments...

    February 2, 2010 at 10:50 am |
  141. Jeff

    If you're in the military now, either officer or enlisted, or if you are a Captiol Hill policy maker, and you DON'T know that there are already THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of gay and lesbian Service members, AND that you've already been working with and supervising them for YEARS, you ought to pull your head out of the sand. We're here, we're queer, get used to it. We will continue to serve our country whether we can be "out" or not. But everyone's life would be just a little more comfortable if this ridiculously outdated policy just went away. It encourages discrimination and homophobia.. and we get enough of that in the civilian world.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:50 am |
  142. Matt

    DADT is a clear example of the way sexual panic can be and is constantly used in America to scapegoat one cultural group so that another may profit and feel superior. It makes America, yet again, look like an hysterical nation of inane hypocrites.

    Objections to the dismantling of Don't Ask Don't Tell are usually based on irrational sexual panic that comes from a fear of the unknown. Anyone who has ever worked in any profession with anyone with a differing sexual orientation to them will know that there isn't any real issue that is inherent in the way gay or lesbian people behave as a result of their sexuality.

    The politician just on CNN who said that less than 1 percent of military discharges were as a result of DADT thus proving that the rule doesn't hurt the military is incorrect. The majority of military executives understand the absurdity of the rule so they do not enforce it. That's why that statistic is so low.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:51 am |
  143. BRANDON

    ‘Don’t ask’, 'Don't Tell' policy isn’t broken

    What is wrong with the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy? Nothing, nada, zilch! It works to the T. During my enlistment I worked with a multitude of gay personnel who served and were fairly open about their sexual preferences. My chain of command was well aware of this. Did my chain of command throw the book at them and get them chaptered out? No! They allowed them to continue to serve strictly because they did not openly profess they were gay.

    If I remember correctly, one of the core values throughout the services is "Service Before Self." I find this "I want more rights" to go against the very essence [of what] the military stands for. I sometimes wonder what will become of the military if we don’t stand for something. I mean, what will be next, pretty pink uniforms with cute little bows and bells on the boots because somebody wants a change?

    The military needs to look at the type of personnel they are going to start allowing to serve if the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy is abolished, as well as the reason these people want to serve. Set a standard. All of this "I want, I want, I want" will eventually hurt unit cohesiveness.

    Gays don’t have to go gallivanting and frolicking around letting their sexual orientation be known to the world. They should just keep serving quietly and professionally. "Service Before Self." "Don’t ask, don’t tell" — not broke, don’t fix it.

    Joint Base Balad, Iraq

    February 2, 2010 at 10:51 am |
  144. Willie Isaac

    I am so sick of Gays and Gay drama! Get real!! How would you like to be forced to shower with Men!

    That’s what it will feel like when you have people that are attracted to the same sex.... it a gross violating feeling.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:51 am |
  145. Chris

    As a 22 yr USAF veteran and 7 year First Sgt, I have only investigated one homosexual incident in that time. My belief...allow homosexuals to serve. But, as military members we serve at the discretion of our civilian leadership. Help us understand how we distinguish between existing mil-to-mil (married military members) policy, housing, medical benefits and things such as adoption. I support homosexuals serving our great nation, but need Congress to understand the social impact is huge. It is the same as integration of the forces in will take time and patience. There must be understanding from our civilian leaders (Congress) on that fact. I welcome the openess...many social and economical changes originated through military research and's time.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:51 am |
  146. Della

    I served six years in the Army and knew about gays that were in my unit (as did most of the other soldiers). It never interfered with the cohesion nor did it put a strain on the morale of our unit. There was a mutual trust that if it came down to it, we all knew that we would be able to protect each other. The problem with the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy is that it is more about politics and a few people who are homophobic. Discharging our men and women over whether they are straight is downright ludicrous because there is no proof that it does or would interfere with the mission.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:51 am |
  147. Randall

    I am sick and tired of the gays trying to compare this to racial equality. It'snot the same thing, you have no control over the color of your skin. I retired last year from the Air Force and I am a Desert Storm vet. During the war we had open bay showers and open bay sleeping quarters. It does not make for good order to have straight men being forced to shower with with a gay. The don't ask, don't tell policy works fine. do what you want in your own home, but don't force straight men to shower with sugar britches. Further, as a black mand and a Democrat, I would have to agree with the Republicans on thei issue. America needs to wake up and stop letting the gays push their agenda on everyone else. Now they want to put an ad on during the Superbowl of two men kissing, what next? I wish that the gay community would stand up and agree that most people are trying to raise straight children as nature would have it and keep the gay stuff within the confines of their homes. You can't turn on the tv without seeing some gay show on. It needs to be on a pay channel like HBO or something, but get that gay stuff off television and let the rest of America raise straight kids. Thinmk about what your parents wanted for you

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  148. John

    I am 22. I speak Arabic and Russian, though my parents are of neither descent. I go to one of the country's best schools, and a number of career paths are open to me, but I want to join the Army or Marines, and to that end met with an Army recruiter last year in Maryland. After giving me a practice ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Apptitude Battery), my recruiter was impressed and took me a few weeks later to Fort Meade to take an actual ASVAB. Accompanying my recruiter and me were two young men, both around my age, neither of whom was enrolled in college and both of whom were almost undoubtedly straight. I got done with the test fairly quickly, and waited with one other potential recruit for the third who was taking a long time. Our recruiter read our results to us in front of each other (I was a bit surprised) and my score put me somewhere in the 97-98th percentile, while those of my new friends were in the 80s and 60s. I am bisexual. I am not flamboyant, nor do I consider my sexuality one of my defining characteristics. It's just a part of me that I'm exploring. Yet if all three of us were to join the Armed forces, my position would be in more jeopardy than theirs, despite my abundance of qualifications, because I happen to be in a relationship with a man. I love my country. I would die for my country. And I wouldn't consider it a sacrifice, because my love for my life is nothing compared to the safety of my family and friends that is threatened by our enemies. But is it fair that, even if I don't 'share' my sexuality with anyone else, if someone were to investigate me for allegedly being gay or bi, and it were found to be true, I could be discharged.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  149. Renee

    I am also currently serving in the military. The ignorant comments of some veterans about not letting gays in the military during Vietnam just makes me laugh. They were in the military then just as they are now. I am sure some of his buddies were gay. I don't care about overturning the policy. If gays want to serve OPENLY, then let them. I served by some already and they were all honorable.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  150. bob lessard

    i served in the air force for 13 yrs.and those who bring it up are flat wrong to say the least,you can be assured they don't want to serve with Pres Obama either
    there is such a thing that has happen when you turn around and say thanks for saving my life.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  151. John

    Why is it not okay for Men to shower with Women in the Military. But it is okay for Gay men to shower with Straight men in the Military.If we have become so open and accepting of everything . What's the difference ,Kyra if you were in the Military would it be okay with you to undress and shower with Men.If not why not?. I think you've just answered your own question.Be serious

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  152. E Alan

    It's so hard to understand we can pride our military and soldiers for espoising values like honesty and integrity, and then turn around and require servicemen and women to lie in order to serve. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is anything but honorable; it does a disservice to all of the men and women who serve their country with honor. Its time to get rid of this discriminatory policy.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  153. Joshua

    As a combat infantry vet on his 2nd tour in Iraq, I think the real issue here is being missed.

    I'm serving in an environment in which I work alongside non-combat soldiers. There is a huge difference in the two environments. I work alongside a soldier who is, essentially, openly gay, and no one seems to care. Personally, though I disagree with homosexuality, I enjoy having him on the team. He's a hard worker and good at what he does.

    The issue is that, I don't know that this arrangement would work so well in a combat unit. Infantry units spend long periods of time sleeping in very close quarters, being undressed around each other due to crowded conditions and otherwise doing things that we might be uncomfortable having a woman seeing, much less another man who might be gay. I have no doubt that gays fight as hard and can be as tough as anyone else, but there really is an issue of comfort in the combat units.

    If we're going to get rid of don't ask don't tell, it needs to be phased in slowly, coming down to the combat units last as to give the military a chance to enact SOP's for preventing trouble. you only room gay men together? Do you room them with women? With straight men? Men and women don't room does this get settled?

    My thoughts.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  154. Randy

    So now we will have twice the barracks, twice the showers? I don't want to be in the same shower room as a gay soldier, like the females don't want a male in thier showers. I don't want a gay roommate. I should feel safe and relaxed in my off time, not wondering or worrying about what my roommate is or isn't doing. I don't want to walk in on a gay fest, and it will happen. Some body will direspect the other roommate in one way or another, by accident or on purpose. It happens now.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  155. Martin Ross

    I served, proudly, in the military for 3 years and completed my service with an honorable discharge. Never, in my life, have I feared detection of a personal issue more than those 3 years. It was stressful, uncalled for and patently unfair. Our world has changed and so must the 'Booboisie' in this country.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  156. Chuck

    There is a reason the Joint Chiefs all stayed seated when the President made that comment. They don't agree with it because they know it be more detrimental than beneficial to the military.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  157. John Tyler Pennsylvania

    Many homosexuals that have served in the past suffered the same trauma and even death as heterosexuals. If they are willing to serve and die for this our country they should not be discriminated against. If there are any sexual harassment issues that occur it should be handled that same as sexual harassment incidents amongst heterosexuals. We have overcome the racial issues that existed in the military and it's time to overcome this homophobic fear.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  158. Joe Lopez

    Race and sexual preference is 2 separate topics. You don’t see heterosexuals in the military saying I’m heterosexual and proud. Why must homosexuals come out and do it while in uniform? We are aware that they are amongst us, we still respect them as our peers or subordinates but why do you want to come out and let us know that you like to have sexual intercourse with someone that is your same gender? I don’t come out and say hey I like to have sexual intercourse with Asians, Hispanics, Caucasians, and African Americans. Keep your preference to yourself there is no need for you to share that with us.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  159. Alex

    I am not concerned about what people do behind closed doors. I am more concerned about how effective a warrior is in a battle situation; after all the USA has an all volunteer military force, EVERYONE should be given the opportunity to serve–with integrity!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  160. Lu

    If they change the policy will they allow those who do not wish to serve with openly gay or lesbian people to be honorably discharged?
    In all other job areas you can choose where you wish to work. The military is a multi-year contract and this was not part of it.
    After the policy changes if anyone joins that is their own doing but for those who are already in this is holding them hostage. They should be allowed to opt out of the military do to this change in policy.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:53 am |
  161. Duane

    Kyra, in respect to all of my present and past fellow military men and women. And having two daughters currently serving in the armed forces, I must say I'm totally against changing this policy. It will not build team chemistry, in fact I think It will deteriorate camaraderie. During my 20 year career I did not see any respect given to any homosexuals, especially those with leadership positions. It is an immoral and un-natural act that should NOT be allowed to characterize our most sacred defense,

    February 2, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  162. Arine Ward

    No you don't want to Re-enlist because you don't want to...stop trying to use this as an excuse. If your simple thinking like this...we don't need you in the military...Gay's have been in the military since it started...So get a grip and Man Up...Your tired and want a break...don't use gays as an excuse sounds like a weak serviceman to me!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  163. Erinn

    Do you remember that line from Captain Jack Sparrow? "Not rules, more like guidlines", kind of applies here. Leave it up to the individuals to disclose the information or not, fact of the matter is every single capable America loving citizen that wants to serve their country should be able to do so. I trust that each of those people will have their own best interests at heart and not expose themselves to potential danger. And by that I mean that this is a "fear" that runs deep in our country, it shouldn't but it does, it is the same thread of hate as racism. Unreasonable and sharp. It will take time, but I believe people are good at their core, and once the dark shadow of fear passes you won't see a strait/gay military. You'll just see a great military. I would also like to remind all the gay people that do come out; women have been dealing with this "you are lesser" treatment for generations, be prepared to work 10x harder, faster and better than everyone else...Anything you can do I can do better....hehehe

    February 2, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  164. melody adams

    Diversity is a strength-it is also an untapped resource in America, both economically and politically,it is time to repeal the rule 'dont ask-don't tell'.
    It is my opinion that "OUR" nation is built on diversity and the freedom to self express authentic self.
    Honoring every individual that risks their life on the front lines by removing the 'shame' and 'guilt' can only strengthen our defenses. Albeit,there will be those 'haters' who are afraid to acknowledge their own misunderstanding of the culture that has worked,served and showered next to them in silence in every career and situation in this nation.
    I say let freedom be our ring! And may we all rise in peace to tell our story,which embraces as a nation,the realize that Creator, in all its forms,lives within our humanity. Blessed be America.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  165. Patty Spratt

    I don't think they should have the right to tell gay men and women that they can not serve their country because of who they love. Years ago they did not want women in the service because of fear of how men would act around them and today they are serving side by side. So if they would just let it be I think most men and women would get over the fear of working with them. Most gays are more afraid of people knowing and treating them different then people are of finding out there are gays serving beside them.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:55 am |
  166. Ann

    It's a sad commentary on our country that this discussion is even taking place here in the 21st. century. DADT was a bad policy to begin with and nothing has happened to make it a better. I find it hard to believe that intelligent people want to leave it as is. Just bring it up for a vote and vote it down. Period.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:55 am |
  167. Shary Glenn

    It is incredibly contradictory that we have a country and a constitution that is founded on such principles as equal protection; yet it seems that those who happen to be gay are not afforded these rights. Our government and religion preaches unity, so think about it, gay or not you're still a human being. Its sad that in this day and age after all this country has fought for we still penalize others for their differences, when it's those differences which make our country truly great. Keeping it simple, it often boils down to religion, so here it is, Jesus said "Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." Part of loving one another is treating each other with the same respect we expect to receive, if we would only implement that principle – it would make things so much simpler!!

    February 2, 2010 at 10:56 am |
  168. tom

    Do not repeal please. I don't need to have it proclaimed to know. It has no place in the work/military force. Do your job and after hours your private life is yours I can get away from it if I choose to but I can not during duty.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:56 am |
  169. Jason Scott

    I have actively served my country as a Marine since I was 18. I am 32. I have served multiple combat tours as well. I honestly don't care what the sexual orientation of the man or woman in a fox hole with me is. I also don't care if they were born a woman and became a man, or vise versa. Their training, experience, and what is required of them is no different than mine. They aren't better or worse than me. We're the same. We're both Americans.
    I do however, hope that if this is repealled and changed, that just like men and women don't shower and sleep together (either in shelter halves in the field or in rooms back in the barracks) that I am not being expected or required to shower or sleep with those who are homosexual or transgender. If it is expected and required to keep a unit combat ready that men and women are kept seperate and their privacy is maintained, then so should be in this case.
    I wholeheartedly believe this is why members in the military don't support this being repealled. We won't put the sexes together, but will expect heterosexual men/women to shower and/or sleep with homosexual men/women.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:57 am |
  170. Larry

    As a former marine I feel it should be up to the men and women in the service to vote in or out the don't ask don't tell policy,not politicians who only care about getting more votes.The military has seperate showers and restrooms for men and women, how would they feel if they had to shower together.Making, not asking a straight woman to shower with a straight man is the same as making, not asking a straight man to shower with a gay man.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:57 am |
  171. Sharon

    Don't ask, don't tell isn't a political issue. It is discrimination. Muslims in the military serve openly. The military could have used gay soldiers with Arabic language skills but hate and ignorance prevailed.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:57 am |
  172. DADT outdated

    Joseph Burke stated:

    "I would live to see every member of congress who wants to end the ban on gays in the military to go spend a few evenings in a gay NYC bathhouse..."

    Joseph, just so you know, being around gays isn't like spending an evening in a bathhouse...I mean really?

    There are a lot of good military personnel in our Armed Forces today, and to degrade them like that is just ridiculous. They lay their lives, and their personal lives on the line every day for this country. They live on the same values as every other military personnel regardless of their sexuality. Put your ignorance aside, give them at least that much decency!.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:57 am |
  173. Colleen

    I've been trying to rationalize what the difference between knowing and not knowing if a fellow troop is gay or not is.

    I think I've got it. Guys are okay being friends with a gay man if they don't know he is gay because... if they like or hang around with a gay man, his straight friends will accuse him of being gay, which of course is a fate worse than death to some guys. Geez.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  174. Beatkat

    I'm so tired and FRUSTRATED when you put on a "so called" debate with two opposing guests and then rush through the process trying to squeeze it into such a small timeslot. This does NOT allow us, you, or the guests to get any deeper than the "talking points" and propaganda they come on air pre-stuffed with...this is a HUGE disservice to your audience, and FURTHER mires the debate by NOT allowing a true, fact checked, dialogue between the two sides that comes to a REAL conclusion. PLEASE consider lengthening these segments to allow the guests to get past the rhetoric, and premeditated BS they bring on the segment, and .to produce some REAL depth and conclusion to the segment. Otherwise, in the format you keep using, NOTHING gets done in these segments and no truth or fact checking takes place, providing us, the viewing public, with no real service, no true in depth discovery and debate,.....and no real conclusion to prove or disprove one side or the other. That means the segment becomes a complete waste of time , that doesn't move the topic forward, or prove one side as being less than truthful....or worse.....which SHOULD BE your goal! The Networks are LOSING viewers because they are continually fluffing the "news" , and becoming more like FOX every day....a HUGE disappointment. DO YOUR JOB...the majority of us want JOURNALISM, and REAL REPORTING- not opinion and partisan BS fluff....reported over and over and over on 30 minute intervals.How about choosing a daily topic or story, and then throughout the day work to really get to the bottom of the particular daily topic, with REAL reporting and IN DEPTH analysis and fact checking to put forth the REAL truth??? This would set you apart....something you need to gain back the people from FOX pseudo news- PROVE them UNFAIR and UNBALANCED EVERY DAY- thanks

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  175. AJ

    Survey the active duty members of the military...and let them decide.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  176. Paul

    Congressman Duncan Hunter, Claims that having open gays in the military would cause straight soldiers to be uncomfortable with serving along side a gay man and said if he later found out someone he served with was gay he would be uncomfortable. One quality I feel a soldier should have and most of our soldiers do have is the ability to solve problems or fight with all types of distractions going on, or making the best with what they have. I as an American a citizen, who happens to be a straight man, would not be confident in a military that is scared or worried about their fellow soldier’s sexuality, race, or sex. Should we also make accommodations for racists in the military and not place them with a Latino, Asians or African American because they might not serve their country as well? If you can’t serve your country along side a fellow American you shouldn’t be serving your country at all.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  177. Sarina

    It’s about time to get rid of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy. It’s wrong judge people for their sexuality. My husband in the army and I grew up in the military, I know a lot of gays in the military and they are severing our country. I'm proud of them. Don’t gays have it hard enough just coming out?

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  178. Ashley

    @ Kal, you didn't re-enlist because you didn't want to. I hardly doubt someone gay being beside you mattered. What if you were stuck in a burning building in the middle of a firefight and the only one there to save you was a gay man. Would you say "Don't touch me! You're gay!"...nope.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  179. James

    I am a civilian that has been working with the military for 25 years, now in Afghanistan. This is a rediculous proposal based on the statistics of 60% do not mind. Well, then 40% do mind and very strongly. I question the 60 % statistic because I have only seen a very small minority that says they dont mind, but when challenged with questions they change their opinions. Honesty is the core of the spirit and to ask 40 % to lie about their feeiling or mandantory supression due to sensitivity training for macho men is appauling, especially to allow less tha 1/2 of `1% to affectt 100% of a war machine. Dont ask dont tell is working, Please, DO NOT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKE.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:58 am |
  180. Dennis from Phoenix

    the law, as silly as it is, keeps soldiers from hitting on each other, touching inapropriately, pressureing a subordiante to have sex, etc. the same things that happen now between men and women in the work place. And if the military wants you out, they will find a reason to get you out gay or not. they bend rules, apply inappropriate regulations, make stuff up...they kicked me out after i served in Vietnam because they didnt know what was wrong with me. come to find out it was severe PTSD but in my record is says i refused to cut my hair.

    February 2, 2010 at 10:59 am |
  181. Arine Ward

    All these comments about gays being beating and harassed in the military...Seems like to me a bunch of insecure males need to be brought to justice for Gay Bashing that is a criminal offense these days.

    Silly men, don't understand and secure in themselves, wish to control what another does...if you can't control your own sexual desires, then sounds like you have some form of gay male or woman is going to do or say anything to you or anyone else UNLESS..given the open door...

    President Obama, needs to have the Service Men and women investigated for Gay Bashing...hypocrites...but when no one is looking they desire to be______________________________________

    February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am |
  182. Pam

    My husband is a National Guardsman. I think people forget that soldiers often sleep closer to each other and see each other undressed more than they would if they were sharing a jail cell. Would the average American feel comfortable sleeping next to a gay man or woman or showering with them if they were straight themselves- particularly in a combat situation where they would need to remain as rested and mentally prepared as possible? It is a fact that the majority of the military does not want to know. This is a trust and morale issue that should be left alone, due to the requirements of a soldier's daily life. The current policy is based on a long term study. Discussing sexual preference under any circumstance is blatently unprofessional, unbecoming and unproductive.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am |
  183. Nathan

    To elaborate further, as a former Recrutier I could deny service to any person. If someone came in and was over weight they would be denied entry into the military. If someone had a medical/mental condition, they would be denied entry. If someone had too much debt, they would be denied entry as well. So if I was still recruiting and the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was no longer valid, I could still deny service to a person if I didn't think it would be right for them. I can remember countless people I encountered who I didn't give another look at because I didn't think that the military would be a good fit for them. It's no different than a business recruiting potential managers. Find 1 out of 5 who is the best canidate for the job. My point is this, even if Gays are allowed to openly serve, some recruiter out there will deny them entry.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am |
  184. Paul

    I am a former Marine Artilleryman of 13 years. I always joked that we were the gayest bunch of homophobes you'd ever meet. I don't have an issue with gays or lesbians but there were a few instances when I had to do things with another man that would have been a lot harder if I knew he was gay. It's hard to explain unless you were there.

    My wife and I are divided on this issue but I pose this question to Kyra – How comfortable would you be in a gang shower with Anderson Cooper when you're done your show, chatting about your plans for the weekend and listening to Rick Sanchez and Wolf Blitzer talking about their plans to hit a strip club, wondering what they're thinking about when they cast a glance in your direction. My guess is you'd pass. That could as easily be me in the shower with 3 gay Marines. I don't think so! It creates a lot of issues...

    February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am |
  185. George

    I am a retired veteran with 22 years of service including three tours in Vietnam. As a commander, I was aware that some of the members of my unit were gay but I was also aware of those members who were alcoholics and drug users. During a fire fight, I was more concerened with whose ability to fight was impaired not what thier sexual preference was. There have always been gays in the military, many of whom have served with great disticntion and anyone who denies this must have served in a parallell universe. We need to get past this non -problem.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:01 am |
  186. Nancy KDW

    Why all the fear around the showers? There have always been gay and straight men together in the military showers. What a crazy reason to use to justify discrimination in a country which prides itself in all its citizens being created equal!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:01 am |
  187. scotte

    No! Create a third sex? Gays already have a hard time keeping their desires and feelings inside. We gave them an inch now they want 12 inches. Next they will want to marry their fellow soldier.
    I think the term gay or straight speaks for itself ,gay means you are not straight. The only good thing that could come out of letting them serve is that the military won't have the pregnancy problem.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:02 am |
  188. Chris W. - Columbus, OH

    I was in the Army National Guard for 5 years. I enlisted during the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy under Clinton. I came out as a gay man after enlisting. I never thought of proclaiming my new gay status merely because it does not effect any aspect of firing a weapon or protecting my country. However, when the Bush Administration imposed the Defense of Marriage Act, it was time to stand up for my rights. Why would I voluntarily go to a foreign nation to protect the rights of those citizens when, as a gay man, my rights are being stripped away in my own country?
    I approached my Commander and informed her that I was gay and would no longer serve under this Administration. As a minority, she understood the dilemma and I was awarded an Honorable Discharge.
    Don't Ask Don't Tell serves no purpose. Gay service-members are already in the military. They're already in the barracks and in the showers. All service-members should be given equal rights when protecting their country which claims to defend...equal rights.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:02 am |
  189. Rheannon

    In Marine Corps boot camp men and women train separately. Your platoon is herded into showers along with dressing and stand naked in front of each other. As a single non NCO Marine, you have no choice with whom you room. Rooms are small and sometimes there are no heads, so you would be forced to dress in front of each other. As far as working together there might not be as many issues but having to know the person you're in the shower with or rooming with is gay would create problems and there is no way around that. The military isn't a job, it's your life. How would people that are against the policy like to be told they are going to be showering or living in a small room with someone that prefers their sex and have no say in it?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:02 am |
  190. Tim

    I served in the Air Force. I am gay. My sexuality did not in any way affect my job. You did not have to look far to find a fellow gay. We had to be very cautious not to raise any suspicion. We did not talk to each other on base under the fear that there would be guilt by association. In private venues we often knew each other by a "bar name". I served 3 and a half years before someone angry with me decided to attempt to ruin my career. Only six months before the end of my contract I could have lost everything. I nor any other that I knew ever acted in a way that would be negative to other non gay personal serving. It is insane that this policy exists. Gay men and Women are not out there to convert anyone. The truth is the Gay men and women serving are just as valuable. We are there to work, just like everyone else. We are not there to find a date. The many hours I spent with my fellow troops hearing about their sexual encounters was very offensive. I however could not say so much as I have a date. In basic training people come from many parts of the US. Many entering have never really interacted with a black man or a white man on equal grounds. Many had ideas of racism instilled in them. Basic training broke down those ideas. I changed minds for the better. Understanding that sexuality is only one little part of a person, just as color. Ones sexuality does not make them better or worse, just as color does not. I think breaking down these barriers and stereotypes only strengthen America and the Military.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:03 am |
  191. Shelley Schmidt

    Dear Kyra,

    As an undergraduate student at the College of Charleston, I'm shocked and embarrassed for this nation. This nation that is supposedly "United" isn't at all. Growing up in New York, I was under the impression that we were "America the Great", that racism and discrimination were dead and a part of our past. Yet, here we are in the 21st century, arguing about the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy. There is no reason why a homosexual should be denied the right to serve the military. I strongly feel that this topic shouldn't even be open for debate because it is discrimination.

    America it is time to get over yourself. The idea of denying someone their right to serve the military or the right for civil union because of their skin color, religion, or sexual orientation is DISCRIMINATION.

    So thanks America, its nice to know that we've made no progress as a nation to become "united".

    It's time to wake up America.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:03 am |
  192. Don

    Hon. Discharged Major, USAF William Wyttenbach
    February 2nd, 2010 9:57 am ET

    Bad idea don't ask, don't tell. It creates two classes of soldiers. Officers cannot date enlisted military so no preferential treatment is given in combat. Officers have to do kid gloves at risk of discrimination charges at best. Worse is the frequent scenario. Gay female soldier marries gay male civilian. She claims him as "spouse"; he gets free medical care adn she gets a big jump in pay for her new "spouse". This needs major investigation.
    Please do not take this as a personal attack… but you “Sir” in my humble opinion are the exact reason that this idea of gays in the military is a problem. Let me respond to your comments individually. First, issue of “multiple classes IS the problem, not to mention civil rights, that you as an officer you are sworn to Uphold and Defend” remember the US Constitution? Second, were you lusting after some A1C that you really wanted to get with… there is a reason for no fraternization policies, please, if you can try to argue a valid case other than “showers” for gay and lesbian members of the military? Three, “discrimination”… should I even address this? If a woman and man are married, regardless of their sexual status… THEY ARE EACH OTHERS SPOUSE! Whether you like it or not. And I may be wrong, but gay men do not marry gay women or vice versa, do you even know what gay, lesbian and homosexual even mean?

    You know, as an (former) officer I would really expect better and well thought out comments that those that you provided.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:03 am |
  193. renee

    I have never agreed with the dont ask dont tell policy. these are americans who want to fight for their country and defend their families but yet they are not allowed. Then you have those who for relegious reasons will not fight in a war or join the militarty and they are punished by impriosonment when they refuse to do so. I think that in both of these circumstances it should be left up to each individual on what they choose to do, after all this is the land of the free.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:04 am |
  194. kim

    I am currently serving the military and work with a few gays. I completely support our countries president however I must disagree with him wanting to change the current don't ask don't tell policy. Working with homosexual men , as I do, causes a lot of unwanted and unnecessary drama and frustration. As a result cohesiveness is almost nonexistent! I have nothing against homosexuals however they have brought too much mess into our work environments which can potentially effect a divisions mission readiness! As far as bath facilities, do would feel the need to have separate showers, even though not all gays have the tendency to look at non gay personnel not all gays have that respect to not stare or make gestures about another man or woman, even now there are some who come to work discussing there sex lives,and what they would like to do with a non gay person which I'd rather not hear being that I am a christian and believe God created women to be with men! I'm not saying I would look at a person differently but respect me as a person and the beliefs that I have, as I would respect you. Basically its that persons own business and life it has nothing to do with me; I would say however, keep the don't ask don't tell policy, its worked all these years and if its not broke don't fix it!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:06 am |
  195. Ed Reiman

    Dear Kyra,

    The issue SHOULD NOT BE sexual orientation; rather it SHOULD be about PUBLIC SEXAUL BEHAVIOR (public displays of affection) among soldiers.

    A a 100% disabled Vietnam Combat Vet., I can tell you this: I did not care a bit about another guy being 'gay' or not .... I simply wanted him OR her to conduct themselves WITH DIGNITY and MODESTLY while in UNIFORM.

    THAT should be the focus of Mil. Regulations ; Modesty and dignity WHILE IN UNIFORM.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:07 am |
  196. Jeff

    I take serious offense to the suggestion that gay men in the military if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" were repealed would begin making sexual advances towards their straight co-workers in the showers, or that gya officers would try to "take advantage of new recruits" as previously suggested. We're not sexual predators, and to infer that we are is disgusting, distasteful and ignorant.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:08 am |
  197. Bj

    @BRANDON: I don't care what side of the fence you are on, you are right. Kyra, I hope you read his comment over the air! And I hope everyone else reads it. If it ain't broke...right?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:08 am |
  198. Jimmy

    I was in the JROTC. I took the ASVAB. The recruiter had been to my house and met my family several times. In 1995, one of my superiors overheard speculative conversations about my sexuality and cautioned me about my conduct. At that moment, I realized the military was not a viable option for me. After 9/11, the military contacted me again. I wanted to serve my country, but the message was clear. I wasn't asked, but I was told. I may or may not be gay, but that policy kept me from enlisting. I am not alone.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:10 am |
  199. Chris

    John...posted at 1052....did you join? I support you joining, but if you didn't that's on you. Joining is a calling...not a cause. 22 yrs...proud service, straight, married 20 years, but totally understand and hope gays will be allowed to serve.....with thought and consideration by our civilian leaders (American taxpayer and congress)

    February 2, 2010 at 11:11 am |
  200. Georgery Fields

    The dont ask dont tell law is a joke, out of the 11000 members discharged i think you would be interested to find out how many held critical jobs? Doctors, Nurses, Lawers, the law is not evenly enforced.
    I have seen some of my Commanders discharge an enlisted medic and not an openly gay Doctor or Nurse....
    It is a law that helps keep homophobes happy, just like segregation kept the racist more comfortable.....

    February 2, 2010 at 11:12 am |
  201. Gene

    I really hope this ridiculous and unconstitutional law will be repealed. It is long overdue. To deny any man or woman who is perfectly willing and capable the right to serve their country simply because they are homosexual, which they have no control over, is deplorable. "Don't ask, Don't tell" is essentially discrimination and in a country where "all men are created equal," discrimination of any form should not be tolerated.
    There is no RATIONAL argument that can be made in support of this policy. To say the living quarters/showers would be an issue is absurd. Gays have been serving since the creation of the military. Whether the other soldiers know it or not, they are most likely showering alongside gays already. It wasn't very long ago that many people supported separate bathrooms for blacks, an idea we now find irrational and ridiculous. For those who do have a problem serving with homosexuals, perhaps they are the ones who should be considered a threat to the other soldiers. As others have said, this is not an economic issue, it's a political one and it's about time we put an end to intolerant social ideologies being pushed on the military.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:12 am |
  202. Sonia

    As a combat participant, Special Forces instructor and now active military wife – I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST lifting that band. You want to punish pregnant women for doing what is natural while being away and lonely and yet you will allowed some guy sizing up my husband while showering and sleeping together because there is only one sex in their tight quarters. My husband just came back from 16 months in Iraq and I couldn't even mention sex because it was hurting him literarly while he was away and yet, you will allow some guy next to him suggest sickening intercourse that will distract him from saving lives by wondering what this gay guy has on his mind. I am sorry!! But if you were serving and serving with the right attitude this wouldn't even been an issue. Christians can't share their faith, other groups can't express their political preferences on military bases so why should gays then be different!!!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:13 am |
  203. Joe Lopez

    CNN is the most trusted name in news! I can not watch any other channel! I have over 400 channels and I only watch CNN! I know I am pathetic!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:13 am |
  204. Jeremy Mitchell

    This issue is a significant part of a series of social issues that dehumanizes many when they are trained by the military; and, much worse, causes the physical and mental abuse of many others who are victims of direct institutional and peer abuse as targets of discrimination and fear supported by prejudice against their sex, gender expression, and sexuality. It affects how you value the people you work with. If a soldier, with prejudices of homosexuals, assumes another soldier is "Gay" because his of the way he talks or his personal beliefs, that soldier most likely will covertly treat his patron much differently, and disloyally. LGBT people have an equal right to serve the nation and be part of the Democratic process as heterosexuals. And every LGBT member of the U.S. military have the right and the need that they feel their peers are equally loyal to them as they are. It is a life or death situation, and an issue of quality of life and liberty.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:13 am |
  205. Carl Hunter

    Why not ask the enlisted man, he or she has to shower with, dress with and work with the gay and lesbiens. Do we allow males and females to dress, sleep and shower together? NO! Why should straight men and women have to expose themselves to those who may be lusting after there bodies while taking care of personal business? I do not agree with gays and lesbiens being in the service unless they are segreagated as men and women are segregated, they are segregated due to sexual orintation, are they not?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:13 am |
  206. Marcus in Greensboro, NC

    Also, being gay does not make you want every man you see. I do not like majority of the men I encounter, and I do not approach people unless I know they are gay. Just because you are gay does not mean I will approach you either. People make these crazy assumptions. Finding someone else gay does not mean I want to have sex with them. Just like I hope a straight man doesn't want to sleep with every woman he sees, but I could be wrong with the way some of these men and women in here think.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:14 am |
  207. Carol W

    Regarding the don't ask don't tell: The fact that this has been the situation since the beginning of the military being established and most people didn't know any difference is something to consider! I do feel once they come out that this could definitely have a huge effect on others and with so many young people there, they could be misled to take the wrong path with their lives especially with the closeness of the environment during their term of serving! For example, many of the young people who have served and are then released come home with a huge drug and/or alcohol problem which is a very sad thing. Perhaps something could be done for the gays to be a separate unit to be called in when we are in full combat war and we just don't have enough other recruits. It's a hard decision!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:15 am |
  208. Chris

    Bob Lessard at 1052...don't post again. You sound illiterate. Spare the rest of us in the Air Force serving terms to retirement or beyond the embarrasment and shame....13 yrs...odd number to us?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:15 am |
  209. mike sey

    Please stop referring routinely to the military as "warriors". They are soldiers, a perfectly honourable designation with a long history. They aren't members of a motorcycle club, a basketball team or tribesmen from the hills or part of Genghis Khan's marauding golden horde.

    As to Gay's in the military, it shouldn't be a problem unless one thinks they present an irresistable temptation to switch teams by their presence.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:17 am |
  210. Katie Keating

    Some of these arguments are just totally absurd and extremely ignorant. It is a civil rights issue, and is unconstitutional. We are as Americans SUPPOSED to be created equal under the law– Americans who are against gay rights (or discriminate any other group for that matter) are hypocrites and liars; they are not true Americans. Our country prides itself on freedom, liberty, life, the pursuit of happiness– well, all of this goes out the window when our government (and ignorant citizens) keep limitations on certain groups of people. If heterosexual women are allowed to serve in the military, it is very much alike to gay men serving. SOLDIERS ARE THERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT THEIR COUNTRY, NOT 'GET SOME' FROM OTHER SOLDIERS!!! GET OVER IT! If you are prejudiced, YOU should not be serving in our military, YOU are the WRONG one, YOU are a LIAR and are not in the military for the right reasons.. You should be in the service to protect and support what our country stands for–which are listed above, but again– freedom and equality. If you can't completely, entirely, fully support those ideals, you are in the wrong career and you are immoral. What are we teaching America's youth? Also, someone made a comment about it being against certain soldiers' cultures/religions/whathaveyou to be living in quarters with homosexual human beings– NEWSFLASH: you're there to protect and serve your COUNTRY, the United States, and the US's culture and beliefs, not your own, and not your previous country/culture/whatever.. You shouldn't be there if you can't separate the two. Don't Ask Don't Tell is totally ridiculous (think about the word, ridiculous..RIDICULE-ous). DADT should have never been in effect and those who support DADT are ignorant. People are in the military to fight for our country and if they can't solely focus on that, THEY are the ones who should be discharged, not homosexuals. The rules should be the same for everyone! If you're at combat and all you can think about is your 'private parts', get out, that's wrong anyway– don't worry about the straight/gay/bi/trans/questioning man/woman next to you, worry about what your JOB as an American soldier is. MIND YOUR BUSINESS, people's sexual orientation does not concern/affect/disable you in any way, and is not what you need to be thinking about. Don't worry about it. Grow up, America, and take a stand for what's RIGHT...equality.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:17 am |
  211. Kaitlin

    I am active duty and I am an advocate for lifting the don't ask, don't tell policy. There are many gays, bis and lesbians where I'm stationed and it's not an issue. We're generally aware of who is or isn't gay/lesbian/bi, and they're not treated any differently than a straight service member. I understand that the current policy was implemented to protect, in a sense, gays, bis, and lesbians from hazing, hate crimes, and discrimination. However, the implementation of the policy is in itself discrimination. Many of my friends who are gay, bi, and lesbians have been denied opportunities by their chain of command becuase of their sexual orientation. This policy needs to be reversed. The new generation of soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen are generally accepting or don't really mind if someone has a different sexual orientation than them. We need to start this change in policy somewhere, and frankly why not with my generation?

    As for renovating bases world wide for seperate quarters for gays, bis, and lesbians...that's just absurd. The only thing revoking the don't ask don't tell policy would do is give them the right to be open about their sexuality without fearing any repremand from their superiors and co-workers. Just because they're not straight doesn't make them any less of a warrior or any weaker or less professional. We all receive the same training, and when someone is shooting at you, you're not going to be worried about the guy/girl next to you being gay. You're going to fight for your life and get the mission done.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:17 am |
  212. Marcus in Greensboro, NC

    No, Carl they are not segregated due to sexual orientation now. There are gay men and women in he military, and they have always been. Gay men take showers and live with straight men, and gay women live and take showers with straight women right now. They just do not tell everyone that they are gay, because they can be kicked out if they are open and honest about it. You know honesty and integrity. You know two parts of the Honor Code of the military.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:18 am |
  213. Jeffery

    Our Armed Services are an ALL VOLUNTEER force.. Nobody is "forced" to be there at all. If 60% of current military memebers "don't care and 40% DO care" as another writer states, I say bury your vile homophobic hate and sexual panic along with your circa 1955 ignorance.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:19 am |
  214. Joe Lopez

    Put it this way, no matter how much the debate is talked about, coming out and saying that you are gay and proud of it while wearing your uniform is irrelevant. Why do soldiers, devil dogs, naval men, or airmen want to know that your sexual preferences are different than others. Is that part of you serving the country? Thanks for sharing your sexual preference with us that will make our job to serve this country better. There will always be biases, the same way as their will always be racism in this country and even in the military. Individuals that are currently in the military, still have racist issues and those individuals that are gay will fit in to that same equal opportunity criteria. When will it stop?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:22 am |
  215. Edward Lasseigne

    When "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is abolished, gay soldiers will still behave professionally and will follow the same rules as everyone else. Gay soldiers won't talk about their sexuality at inappropriate times. The only real change is that witch hunts will no longer be carried out against patriotic soldiers who deserve the freedom to conduct their private lives as they see fit.
    Straight soldiers are strong enough to do their duty even after they know that a colleague of theirs is gay.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:23 am |
  216. jim

    many nations in europe have for years allowed gays and lesbians to serve openly with no fear of harassment. it's time the US get on board and stop getting rid of some its most prized people. these are people who are linguists, cryptographers, and those that put their lives on the line every day to maintain the safety and freedoms all of us enjoy.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:24 am |
  217. paul

    I am a gay american and consiter it rediculious to enforce any policy regarding social preferances in the military. When the enemy is attacking, there isn't time to consiter these kind of social issues.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:25 am |
  218. Beatkat

    So am I reading Nathans post correctly, in that it was ok for him to discriminate at will.... depending on his personal "profiling" characteristics??? And this is based on personal ideology or preference???

    February 2, 2010 at 11:26 am |
  219. Bill Narvey

    The don't ask, don't tell policy is sensitive, troubling and for a number of reasons, has been an unsatisfactory policy that is borne of the efforts to compromise and balance the political views of politicians and Americans generally on both sides of the issue.

    The current congressional debate on the repeal of the don't ask, don't tell military policy is however an effort by politically correct politicians (and some politically correct military leaders) seeking to impose on the military and in particular, the men and women in uniform and on the front lines, their views and the views of a great many Americans also drowning in political correctness.

    This pell mell rush to repeal the don't ask, don't tell policy defies common sense for Congress is ignoring the feelings of what the men and women serving in uniform who will be directly impacted by such repeal, really want.

    Before Congress changes the policy to repeal the don't ask don't tell policy, did no one consider the obvious that Congress should first be finding out what most of the men and women in uniform want, since they are the ones directly impacted by the policy or the repeal of the current policy?

    Whatever the views of the men and women in uniform and whether their views on the issue are justified and politically correct, their views should be respected the most because they are the ones, not the politicians and the American public at large who are immediately affected by and live with the current policy, just as they would by that policy's repeal.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:27 am |
  220. Angie

    When it is the law and a recruiter denies them entry, than that recruiter will be breaking the law.

    And in the Military no one will deliberately break the law.

    So Nathan, as a former Recruiter are you saying that when you served you saw no problem in breaking the law and you would be brazen about it?

    That proves that you were never a former Recruiter. No Recruiter past or present and No military personal would deliberately break the law because they will be faced with a possible dishonorable discharge.

    And trust me a recruiter does not have an option to deny people on his own discretion. It is the letter of the law in the military that the recruiter has to follow.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:30 am |
  221. Arthur

    I am a vietnam veteran this don't ask don't tell is a waste of time, their
    have been gay in the military way back in ww1. I think when we are born our birth certificate say baby boy or baby girl it has nothing on it about being gay. I think that every male or female should be sent to fight for this country no matter what their sexual prefence are. we have
    gay's serving i our senate as well ask congress, were they asked before they were elected. The u.s military have in place regulation's
    under the (UCMJ) uniform code of military justice that cover homosexual acts, this issure shoud be put to rest.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:30 am |
  222. Joe

    The almighty created Eve, not Steve for Adam. Homosexuality is wrong. We as a nation openly accept it as "a way of life". No wonder this country is in such disarray.
    Just remember, we ALL will have to give an account some day, whether you believe it or not.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:35 am |
  223. Robin Reed

    As a "out" lesbian and veteran photojournalist of the Army National Guard getting ready to re-enlist, I can't wait to write all about it. Unfortunately, President Obama could wipe this away with a simple signature and I wonder why he isn't doing?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:37 am |
  224. Joe Lopez

    I was a sergeant in the US Army while stationed in Iraq on my second tour I had a soldier that was a homosexual! I have nothing against homosexuals but we all knew he was gay! I knew I could depend on him as a soldier and we all were cohesive as a squad no one judged him as long as we did our job and that our sexual preferences didn’t effect our task in hand. He never shared his views why should it change now!? This debate is intriguing!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:38 am |
  225. Arine Ward

    All the Bible toting Fanatics...really irritate me ....

    If God made Adam and Eve...and not Steve...then how did you get here?

    When did God say Adam or Steve could lay with Betty and Barbara, along Wilma...and it was alright...
    So don't get it all twisted...stop making one sin different from another in the eyesight of God you will be Held Accountable!

    February 2, 2010 at 11:38 am |
  226. Jay Ramaswamy


    Great to see you in the AM anchor spot in PST zone. Very refreshing, informative, and entertaining. Keep up the great job!

    I don't understand why we are making such a big fuss about gays in the military. We have this population, as a part of the larger population in the military forever and there has not been any issues worldwide. If some have issues with gays in their group or quarters, they have dealt withit , just as military world wide has dealt with female soldiers and officers. This is normal part of human edeavour and organizations everywhere. People know how to deal with it. Why do we need legilsation or rule for this? Do we then have separate rules for hetrosexuals and asexuals in the miltary as well? This is a slippery slope we do not need to go down on!

    I whole heartedly agree with Rep Duncan Hunter this morning We have more important issues to deal with in the military.

    – Jay

    February 2, 2010 at 11:38 am |
  227. john Tedaldi

    Hi Kyra, I'm embarrassed. To have our bravest, our most honorable, our proudest Americans be ordered to lie by omission and live with a secret and then ask them to put our lives in their hands is cowardly and unamerican. It's time for the old timers to retire. As an American I have an obligation to have faith in our youth.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:40 am |
  228. Barbara Johnson

    " It is a fact that the majority of the military does not want to know. This is a trust and morale issue that should be left alone, due to the requirements of a soldier's daily life. The current policy is based on a long term study. Discussing sexual preference under any circumstance is blatently unprofessional, unbecoming and unproductive."

    PAM: I love it when people speak for 'the majority of the military'...then state that the current policy is based on a long term study...without citing 'the' study. How do you know what the majority of the miliatary feels? Your trust and moral issues aren't the same as anyone elses. The military will/does not spend its time catering to trust and moral issues. It gets the job applying discipline and training people to be outstanding examples in their respective fields. To speculate that the gay and lesbian men and women are only on earth to have sex is unconscionable and only shows estute ignorance. It shows who YOU are, not who others are...Life in America is not, 'Christian, white, male, corporate' The days of the 'good ole boys' are over. Most of us have come a long way in developing an understanding of human nature and how valuable each and every human being is...whatever their occupation. The rest need to look into the mirror and see what is wrong with yourself...that causes you to judge others, be hateful and feel superior to others. Wow...This topic certainly brings the TRUTH out of the closet!!


    February 2, 2010 at 11:40 am |
  229. Sonia

    Kyra, as I am watching your show, I have a question.
    Why is it that you only have gays express their disapproval? Why don't you ask military or their families what they think?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:41 am |
  230. Tom

    It is a shame Rep Hunter did not have an original thought of his own. I found his rhetoric illogical and tiring. Hmmm...not unlike several of the posts above. What I find refreshing though is the majority of the posts are from people who are not homophobic, comfortable in their own skin, open-minded, and who have a basic respect for others. As for the others...your prejudice and hatred is sad. Be careful who you hate. It might be someone you love.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:46 am |
  231. Joe

    I said Eve FOR Adam, not instead of. You can deny the truth all you want, but the fact is, homosexuality is WRONG, Period.
    You tell the almighty when you STAND before him that his creation was wrong.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:48 am |
  232. Sonia

    Tom, you are wrong. We don't hate even for a bit. We only want to be understood and respected just as gays claim to wanting to. Just because people like you have decided to compromise on major moral issues, doesn't meant that we all need to bow to it.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:54 am |
  233. Patricia Conti

    I am a 69 year old grandmother of eleven, not gay. My mother was born into a country where women couldn't vote. Not that long ago black troops were separated from white, wasn't that ridiculous. Why are we, all these years later, discussing whether or not certain members of our society should have equal rights. Grow Up America. I am grateful to all the people who are willing to defend this country's freedoms I don't care about their sexual preferences. Also do female service people feel as strongly about this issue as males do?

    February 2, 2010 at 11:54 am |
  234. Joe Lopez

    A lot of people are not understanding the topic in hand! I want to know is it really irrelevant to know that my fellow peer or subordinate is gay? Why being in the military would any of us want to know that the person next to us has a sexual preference different than mine? Your job is to serve this country, not to let everyone know that you are attracted to your same gender. How is this productive? We still know even if the “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy is in effect or not. The same way as we know when there is racist people amongst us. The problem is why change our policies now? What are you going to get out of it? A tap on the back because you said “hey, I’m gay and I’m in the military?”

    February 2, 2010 at 11:55 am |
  235. Nathan

    I see a lot of comments about "EQUAL RIGHT". The fact remains that the military reserves the right to deny service to anyone. The military has standards and these standards are not felxible nor should they be. Before the Don't Ask, Don't Tell, a Recruiter could come out and ask if a person was gay just as they would ask if they have a drug problem. So in fact the law has allowed gays to serve just so long as the powers that be don't know what your sexual preference is. Stop getting so torn over the whole "Equal Rights" because lets face it the military doesn't have to be equal to anyone.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:10 pm |
  236. L. Casey

    Unacceptable sexual behavior is ALWAYS unacceptable. People have control over their OWN behavior and can choose whether to engage in that behavior or refrain. If a person makes an unproductive choice and compromises the workplace, whether heterosexual or homosexual, that person should be held accountable and fired.

    Instant gratification does not produce character - only chaos. These inner conflicts come from one's own desires for selfish pleasure which destroy a person and those around him. Learning to control ones desires produces admirable character traits. A person's conduct and choices will show whether he has wisdom and understanding or whether he is confused and self-seeking.

    There are proper circumstances for duty, which must be known and observed. We must use the appointed means, and observe the accepted time. Prudence takes into account the people we have to deal with and the place and company we are in. We must use knowledge with wisdom to direct and discipline employees to maintain order both in duties and the manner in which those duties are to be carried out.

    Job performance suffers–and in the military, lives and limbs are lost–when behavioral choices such as sexual harassment, intimidation, coercion are allowed to flourish. Businesses often prohibit their employees' sexual fraternization because of possible compromise of job performance.

    The workplace and the military should fire whomever they deem is destroying morale by inappropriate sexual behavior.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:13 pm |
  237. Louise

    What is the big deal? There are gays already serving. They shower and live together now and there does not seem to be a problem. If someone is protecting your back on the battlefield, do you care that they are gay?

    February 2, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
  238. Edward Lasseigne

    Joe Lopez asks here how the lives of gay service members will improve once "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is abolished. He seems to think that the situation of gay soldiers will be roughly the same after the change.
    In some ways, he's correct. Gay soldiers aren't suddenly going to start talking constantly about their sexuality while on duty.
    What they will have, however, is the peace of mind that they can focus on their work without some malicious rumor derailing their entire career.
    Furthermore, if gay soldiers are attacked or harassed on account of their sexuality, they will be able to report the abuse without fearing that the investigation will turn against them.
    "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" has never been enforced fairly. It's led to numerous witch hunts against gay service members who never revealed their sexuality to anyone else in the military.
    In fact, DADT is a fundamentally flawed policy that must be abolished.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:20 pm |
  239. Dan

    L Casey,
    I completely agree with you. Homosexuality is wrong, so why should it be allowed in the military.
    I retired from the Navy, and was permanent party on 5 ships. Living in close quarters, I can tell you it would bother me if I knew one of my cubicle neighbors was gay. That would be wrong.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
  240. Joe Lopez

    Edward Lasseigne i respect what you are saying as an individual. But as I stated our sexual preference as a soldier shouldn’t be a issue or even brought up in our chain of command. Why should I as a heterosexual man hey I love having sexual intercourse with women. What those it have to do with my service in the military. I’ve worked with gay men in the military and I see them still as a soldier no matter their sexual preference but they don’t need to remind that their sexual preference is relevant to their mission, which is to serve this country. As I stated before I’ve worked with homosexuals in the military and plenty of us knew, but we didn’t ask and they didn’t tell since it was none of our business. Sexual preference shouldn’t be a issue if you could defend this country in an effective manner then do so, but it also shouldn’t be brought up since it is not relevant to fighting a war or fighting this country. Although I am fully aware of the homophobic out there it should be an issue of family values if you grew up to be homophobic is it the militaries responsibility? The same way as if you grew up to be racist. I will still serve my duty next to you homosexual or not but you don’t need to tell me that you prefer to have a relationship with the same gender I really don’t care. Lets get the job done and if you want to fraternize with the same gender as you go ahead but no one should no your preference its like me saying hey I like to have sexual intercourse with 4 women at a time whose business is it? Mine.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:36 pm |
  241. Joe Lopez

    I meant fighting for this country! It was a typo!

    February 2, 2010 at 12:38 pm |
  242. Herb Proctor

    Whoa! Whoa! --Don't Ask,Don't Tell-–Lets apply the same policy to our Senate & Congress!!!! & for good measure add same policy to the rest of the government employees. How many would 'hit the road'?

    February 2, 2010 at 12:38 pm |
  243. Randall

    Stop trying to appease the gays! Civil Unions is enough of a compromise and so is don't ask don't tell. As a military veteran I can assure you that no one wants to shower/sleep in the same room as a gay. Gays always have been and will always be in the military, but the fact that we don;t know is refreshing. Ask the soldiers how they feel and those who haven't served have no opinion on the matter.

    February 2, 2010 at 12:42 pm |
  244. Edward Lasseigne

    There is not as much homophobia in the military as supporters of DADT like to claim. In fact, DADT feeds anti-gay bigotry and only makes it harder to create a tolerant, cohesive atmosphere in the military.
    There certainly exists a small minority of straight soldiers who will be apprehensive about serving alongside gay colleagues. Tolerance training, which already exists in the military on issues of race and gender, can simply be expanded to include sexual orientation.
    Such training will smooth over any problems associated with abolishing DADT.
    Above all, if military leaders at the highest levels make clear that they support this change, virtually all service members will fall in line and live comfortably with it.

    February 2, 2010 at 1:05 pm |
  245. Joe Lopez

    "‘Don’t ask’, 'Don't Tell' policy isn’t broken

    What is wrong with the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy? Nothing, nada, zilch! It works to the T. During my enlistment I worked with a multitude of gay personnel who served and were fairly open about their sexual preferences. My chain of command was well aware of this. Did my chain of command throw the book at them and get them chaptered out? No! They allowed them to continue to serve strictly because they did not openly profess they were gay.

    If I remember correctly, one of the core values throughout the services is "Service Before Self." I find this "I want more rights" to go against the very essence [of what] the military stands for. I sometimes wonder what will become of the military if we don’t stand for something. I mean, what will be next, pretty pink uniforms with cute little bows and bells on the boots because somebody wants a change?

    The military needs to look at the type of personnel they are going to start allowing to serve if the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy is abolished, as well as the reason these people want to serve. Set a standard. All of this "I want, I want, I want" will eventually hurt unit cohesiveness.

    Gays don’t have to go gallivanting and frolicking around letting their sexual orientation be known to the world. They should just keep serving quietly and professionally. "Service Before Self." "Don’t ask, don’t tell" — not broke, don’t fix it.

    Joint Base Balad, Iraq"

    I am with you Brandon all the way!

    February 2, 2010 at 1:22 pm |
  246. Stephen McDaniel

    As a Vet, an educator, and a counselor; I would like you to do some research. What does it take to begin proceedings on someone "accused" of being Gay?

    I understood that all that had to happen is that another service member "accused" you of being Gay, not that One had to "Tell" that they were Gay or do something that was against The UCMJ.

    My personal feeling is, "Can you be a Soldier?" Your preferences for lots of things are none of my business, as long as you have got my back in combat and do your job the best you can. My own prejudices must stay My Own !

    February 2, 2010 at 1:25 pm |
  247. Randall

    Edward, there is very little supprot for DADT in the military. Straight men don't want to shower with gays. Too many instances where you have to get undressed. The military may have to fall inline because its being shoved down there throat, but it doesn't mean they like it. What you are going to see is a mass exodus of straight people leaving the military.

    February 2, 2010 at 1:33 pm |
  248. Eddie Miles

    I think if a person is capable of completing the training to enter the military, then He or She is compatible to do combat, Which is the objective of the military. If you can't make the grade, then you should not be able to serve. This country belongs to all of us and we are obligated to defend its freedom. So many issues in today's news
    are not really newsworthy.

    February 2, 2010 at 1:41 pm |
  249. Sonia

    Right on, Mr Randall. We will be first to go and many I know who have given everything already for this country, including our family times and our kids not knowing their dads. Now in addition to death due to combat we have to be threatened by someone's selfishness too? One of my friends already lost her family when her husband was challenged while in Iraq by homosexuals who abused the fact that we are all humans and they were there and his wife wasn't. If you want to serve, serve and keep your bed-stories to yourself but if you are going just to become a hero for gay movement move on.

    February 2, 2010 at 1:53 pm |
  250. Edward Lasseigne

    Joe, arbitrary enforcement of laws only creates disrespect for law and authority. Personal stories about how random the enforcement of DADT has been mainly proves how unnecessary the law is.
    I would also ask that you imagine yourself a gay service member who could never be sure how out you could be, or whether or not DADT would be vigorously enforced against you. Living with such tremendous uncertainty would be sheer torture, and being forced to live like that is completely unjust.
    Randall and Sonia, when Great Britain was thinking about lifting its ban on gay soldiers a decade ago, many opponents warned about an exodus of straight soldiers. Here's the truth: such an exodus never, never happened. In fact, I think fewer than ten British service members quit in protest.
    I don't deny that there will be some initial discomfort about abolishing DADT. But being uncomfortable and actually quitting the military are two very different things. And the more this issue is discussed openly within the military itself, the less discomfort there will be. DADT prevents such open and objective discussions from happening now.

    February 2, 2010 at 2:17 pm |
  251. Harry R, Johnston

    I don't think there should have been a "don't ask – don't tell" in the first place. This was placed during the Bush administration and I think the Republican party is anti gay rights. If the ban is removed it shouldn't cost anything!. And it should never need separate quarters! That's just like during World War II when blacks were separated from whites. Thinking of World War II there must have been thousands of servicemen and women who were gay considering there is an estimate of 1 of 10 is gay. Even if there is only 1 of 20 there still would have been a large number. They helped win the war. The servicemen who spoke Arabic during our current crisis was remove from the service and they could have been a tremendous help, but Bush didn't see it that way. Personal note: I am white; not gay; married for 57 years and had four children.

    February 2, 2010 at 2:24 pm |
  252. Dan Nelson Lafayette,IN

    I don't think that it will effect our fighting capabilities but i do think that if we have openly gay people in our armed forces it will cause conflicts with straight people if gay people were to show their gayness openly around straight people.

    February 2, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
  253. Dan Nelson Lafayette,IN

    I believe that homosexuality is an abomination to God and is a sexual sin! I think that sex education should be taught at the home between the kids and parents. It should start at a young age around 10 or 11 years old. Kids usually look up to their parents when they have a parent(s) that show that they are very concerned about their child's upbringing. I also think that when parents do not show the love and care that a child needs the child shows less concern for what their parents have to say about anything and they learn everything on the streets to look cool amongst their peers. It is within the family where morale values are taught!

    February 2, 2010 at 3:43 pm |
  254. john sudic

    Joseph Burke, I take my hat off to you spoken the way it should be spoken! And I'd like to add one thing to this I'm sick and tired of hearing everywhere in reading about the gay!it's homosexual and there's no pretty way to make it sound as that's what it is a sickness! What Bill Clinton did was the most you can do for these people who refuse to accept their problem especially serving in the military . it's like women being placed in a large cell in prison with equal amounts of rapists just to be hip.

    As far as I'm concerned women have no business being in combat and especially lesbians and homosexuals as I said in the Bill Clinton. But I'll also remind everybody to read Joseph Burke's statement which is about one and burn it in your head and that is the only guideline to use when deciding about something as ridiculous as almost in the US Army or any other army of the world!

    February 2, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
  255. john sudic

    also this whole business is wasting taxpayer dollars for nothing or handful of misguided people need help but are not getting any help rather dipping more and more arrogant in their demands. It feels almost like one flew over the cuckoo's nest this whole business!

    February 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm |
  256. john sudic

    Matthew, homosexuals first of all and not gays! You need to look in the Oxford dictionary and get the definition of gay! To say the least to the ridiculous notion all yours that homos are perceived as wrong and abnormal guess what that's because THEY are, abnormal.

    February 2, 2010 at 3:57 pm |
  257. Randy

    Rumors of being gay? If your a gay IT IS NOT A RUMOR!!!! Stop trying to push your sick ideas on everyone else. Tollerate... There's a word, if we keep tollerating when will they tollerate us? If you don't belive in GOD (sorry for you) look at the science half. Males-Females, not Males-Males or Females-Females. No matter how you look at it it's not right.

    February 2, 2010 at 4:09 pm |
  258. john sudic

    Joan McIntosh-well since you say they can't help it, then they should become actors because I'm sure sick of looking at men act like women and that's gross,sick and morbidly funny?

    February 2, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  259. Randall

    Harry Johnson do your homework. DADT was implemented under Clinton. As I have said before there are and will always be gays in the military. DADT works! As a recently retired vet, I thin k they need to leave that stuff alone. Do what yo want at your own house, but don't force it on us. It aint right or natural and its an abomination to God. No straight man wants to go into a communty shower with a known gay. Be real about it. What about the rights of straight people?

    February 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm |
  260. Jan

    Lesbians have an average stay in the military that is longer than non-lesbians. Folks in the military have long gotten along with each other as long as good order and discipline is upheald. This whole issue is not an issue in the military. Some folks just like to play the victim card. A guy on tv says he was open and every body in the military knew he was gay for two years. Then he goes on 60 Minutes and he gets discharged. Hello? Everybody knew, they accepted him, but it wasn't enough for him. He had to demand more. Go figure. What more does he want than for everyone to know he is gay and be accepted? The 30% of us who are asexual get really tired of having to listen to those who are so desperate to be identified by their sexual orientation.

    February 2, 2010 at 4:23 pm |
  261. Josh Askew

    It is very interesting to see the comments made by people not in the military. Civil rights issues are not always a justification for employment... business necessity takes priority. For years, the military has said that homosexuality would damage esprit de corps, and there for must be excluded as a necessity. Despite the faulty logic being used against the DADT policy, I also think it should be repealed. I AM in the navy. I served for 4 1/2 years on a submarine. It doesn't get any closer than that. Due to manning issues, our command chose to ignore the DADT policy. As a result, we had about five known homosexuals on board. Most of the crew didn't care. The few that did didn't make an issue out of it because the rest of the crew was okay with it. So, what am I saying? Having homosexuals on the boat did not affect our ability to accomplish the mission. And for the next person who wants to make a comment about showers: have you ever seen a gay, men, and women's shower at a gym? If you're naked in the same room as a naked gay man, there is no rule requiring you to have sex. Grow up!

    February 2, 2010 at 4:28 pm |
  262. Don

    @Joe Lopez, you said…”"‘Don’t ask’, 'Don't Tell' policy isn’t broken What is wrong with the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy? Nothing, nada, zilch! It works to the T. During my enlistment I worked with a multitude of gay personnel who served and were fairly open about their sexual preferences. My chain of command was well aware of this. Did my chain of command throw the book at them and get them chaptered out? No! They allowed them to continue to serve strictly because they did not openly profess they were gay. “

    OK… where they open or not? Let me ask you and all of the other homophobes a question… if you were in a firefight and the person next to you said to you “dude, I’m gay”… but every round that went down range found a bad guy, would you jump up and run?… would you really care, then or at a later time? Or what if that medic or doctor that saved your sorry life after you stepped on that IED, what if they were gay or lesbian
    Would you kill yourself later because they cleaned the blood off of you and saw you naked? Much to say but nothing of substance.

    February 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
  263. Talal Hamadeh

    Homosexuality is not a choice nor it is a lifestyle and it is not contagious, you eider born with it or you not.
    For the one whom call it disease or a sickness, obviously it is a lack of education or just looking at it from religious point of view. not to mention of the modern days Hippocrates by adding rulles as thay go, Homosexuality was more accept it during the Roman and Greek times than in our modern days. quite frankly it was no ones concern.why it should be yours now?

    February 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  264. L S R J

    Isn't it interesting that the majority of the posts here that are "against" gays in the military are coming from people who don't want "guys" in the shower or bed or tent with them. It seems to me that some folks are fixated on male soldiers conveniently omitting any mention of women at all. I don't doubt that these same folks would have held the same position back when the debate was over the inclusion of people of color or women into the military or the arguments for mandatory co-education in the US. What makes me uncomfortable is that I begin to wonder if these folks would even defend those different from themselves should the need arise... as they don't seem to relate to them as if they are citizens or even human.

    February 2, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
  265. Nathan

    Harry R. Johnston, let me correct you. Because you are so Anti-Bush you fail to realize that the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was put in place by President Bill Clinton back in 1993. You can't compare Homosexual rights to Race. By doing so, you are saying that all Homosexual people should be their own race. Furthermore, not all Republicans are "Anti-Gay" as you put it and by making that comment you stereotype all Republicans. I have a sister-in-law who is a homosexual and still believe there is no place for homosexuals in the military. As I've stated before on this blog, the Military reserves the right to deny service to anyone. So, are over-weight people going to be coming after the military next? Are people with mental conditions going to try and get there shot of joining? You may not think that these are one in the same but they are. For a person to serve openly as a homosexual, it will cause a distraction. It will cause friction throughout the ranks. I've been in the USAF for 12 years now and know that there are plenty of homosexuals in the military. I won't ask and they don't tell. I may know in the back of my mind that that person is a homosexual but not knowing gives me a straight man, married and a father of 3 peace of mind. I would get your facts straight before you start blasting President Bush or the Republican party next time.

    February 2, 2010 at 8:48 pm |
  266. Joan Marin

    I'm a heterosexual woman, a senior citizen. I think that "Don't ask don't tell" is a disgrace. It's unconstitutional. It should end NOW! , not two years from now. "Just do it"

    February 2, 2010 at 9:36 pm |
  267. james mullen

    If gays and lesbians want to fight in and with the united staes army so be it.why be worried about sexual orientation, when we might have another terrorist attack within a few months on american soil.we need all the help we can get in times like these.

    February 2, 2010 at 11:43 pm |
  268. Clifford Chan

    I can't believe this ridiculous law is in effect in the US, In Canada, in particular, Toronto, The gay miliatary marches in full uniform in the Gay Pride Parade, along with the police forces, then stay and man the recruiting booths. They are in Afghanistan, along side the US troops. Great Britain also has their gay personel march in London's gay Pride Parade. If you, in the US can't accept this, be well aware that fellow allies are actively recruiting. If one can pass training, then one is capable.

    February 3, 2010 at 2:03 am |
  269. Joe Lopez

    I was quoting Brandon , Mr. Don! Have you ever been in combaT? I doubt it! But as I stated I have nothing against homosexuality. I dont need to know when bullets are flying that you prefer one gender from the other its unproffesional!

    February 3, 2010 at 9:24 am |
  270. Ed

    Folks, is war morally correct, or adultery (especially in our elected officials) ? "Don't ask, don't tell" is not a moral issue. What is at issue is whether gays can serve admirally in the military (in wartime or not). Gays have ALWAYS served, in all countries that I know of that have a military, and should be able to now. Civility, integrity, and job performance should be the bar set for this "debate", and many others, currently in this time's "political" debate. With two current wars, at least one natural catastrophe, and the possibility of terror attacks on the horizon, why, oh why, would educated, eager, talented, ambitious men and women WILLING to serve our country be excluded from being desirable to serve. A terrorist, war weapon, or piece of rubble from a crumbled building does not care about one's private life.

    February 3, 2010 at 9:40 am |
  271. Joe Lopez

    Why is the issue of being homosexual and in the military such a hot topic? When you raise your right hand and swear to defend this country from enemies foreign and domestic. Did you swear to defend this country from homosexuals or lesbians foreign and domestic? Us soldiers don’t care what your preference is as long as you get the job done!

    February 3, 2010 at 9:42 am |
  272. Robert

    I believe that to each his own but having served in the military I believe it to be awlful strange to see a Marine walking and talking like he is gay while in uniform. I also believe its tough enough on straoght men in relationships with the opposite sex to be forced into long combat tours with gay men. Where is the straight mans rights? If any liberal thinks this will not cause more headaches for the military than dont ask dont tell simply live in a dreamland, all this is is another payback from Obama to the far left wing fringe that has held up this mans historic Presidency. Because of these people he cant make good on the promises to the middle class tax payer.

    February 3, 2010 at 9:49 am |
  273. Edward Lasseigne

    Robert, President Obama has spent his entire first year trying to boost the economy and provide health insurance to everyone. Both of these efforts are designed primarily to help the middle class taxpayer. Any honest person who looks objectively at Obama's record so far must admit that the amount of time that he's spent on gay equality is minuscule.
    Have you ever thought that just maybe the reason President Obama is taking up this issue now is because it's the right thing to do? It's right for the country, because it will provide the military with the most qualified servicemembers. And it's right for those gay people already in the military, because it will allow them simply to be honest about who they are without fearing persecution.
    Anyone concerned about how the new policy will be implemented really should research online the experience of the British military, which a decade ago allowed gays to serve openly. There were almost no problems with implementation, and the British military is today a better and stronger fighting force now that people don't have to lie and conceal who they are in order to serve their country.

    February 3, 2010 at 10:19 am |
  274. Joe Lopez

    While in war why does sexual preference matter? While at war thats least of your worries!

    February 3, 2010 at 11:04 am |
  275. Edward Lasseigne

    Joe, the struggle against terrorism is going to last decades, while the Middle East slowly democratizes. You can't use the war on terror as an excuse to delay lifting DADT, because then the policy will never be changed.
    Also, Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen are going so slowly and carefully in making this change, that there certainly will not be any disruption in our country's fight against terrorism. The only possible disruption will be caused by social conservatives trying to stir up trouble and trying to use this issue as a club to attack President Obama's broader agenda.

    February 3, 2010 at 12:11 pm |
  276. john sudic

    Randy right on ,Amen!

    February 3, 2010 at 6:38 pm |
  277. john sudic

    RANDY – everyone read what the man says, and what I say without too much nonsense as some of the others have said, I say AMEN.

    February 3, 2010 at 7:09 pm |
  278. john sudic

    Ed said on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell…
    February 2, 2010 at 9:36 am
    Folks, is war morally correct, or adultery (especially in our elected officials) ? “Don’t ask, don’t tell” is not a moral issue. What is at issue is whether gays can serve admirally in the military (in wartime or not). homos have ALWAYS served, in all countries that I know of that have a military, and should be able to now. Civility, integrity, and job performance should be the bar set for this “debate”, and many others, currently in this time’s “political” debate. With two current wars, at least one natural catastrophe, and the possibility of terror attacks on the horizon, why, oh why, would educated, eager, talented, ambitious men and women WILLING to serve our country be excluded from being desirable to serve. A terrorist, war weapon, or piece of rubble from a crumbled building does not care about one’s private life.
    ED , yes that's right we don't care what they do private life well we do but we don't so the point is they don't keep it to themselves. I don't want to see guys kissing on the street and holding their hands and that I have to explain to my child what what is that daddy. Live your life be discreet and you'll get through life don't try to ram rules and regulations and to your way of life onto people who are normal!

    February 3, 2010 at 7:15 pm |
  279. Madelyn Rowland

    I find the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy disgusting. It is pure discrimination. There is nothing wrong with being gay. I am very happy President Obama is working to repeal this law.

    February 3, 2010 at 7:31 pm |
  280. Frank Dougherty

    Don't Ask, Don't Tell.........What's the difference between the military being gay and the House/Senate being gay............Does anyone leave the House or Senate if they are gay????? Thanks

    Vietnam Veteran
    Welcome Home Brothers

    February 3, 2010 at 9:33 pm |
  281. Don

    @Mr. Joe Lopez. Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to you, but to answer your question, (not that I need to answer to you or please your satisfaction), but yes I have been in combat, more than I would like to remember. In 1983 I jumped into Grenada, at Point Salines International Airport as a member of the U.S. Army 2nd Ranger Battalion. In 1989 I jumped into combat again in Panama as a SF liaison to the 1st Brigade task force of the 82nd Airborne Division. Let’s just say that during Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm I had a closer view than you did … maybe you should work on your writing to make yourself understood and if you’re quoting someone then you should make it known… but you still did not answer my questions… but then maybe you have.

    February 3, 2010 at 11:59 pm |
  282. Robert

    Funny how most of these opinions are coming from liberals too good to serve their country in the first place. They have no problem expressing their opinions when their opinions have no affect on themselves. I say to all liberals twith the notion that this will be a good thing for the military! You cry over all the talent thats supressed by the Dont ask Dont tell, but what about the straight talent that will choose to take their talents elswhere! I can say for a 100% certainty that the "straight talent outweighs the gay talent that is currently in the military at lest 10 to 1, so while we open our arms to gay talent we are closing it for straight talent! Our founding fore-fathers would be turning over in their graves if they knew we were trading straight talent for gay talent!

    February 4, 2010 at 8:36 am |
  283. Edward Lasseigne

    Robert, Don't take the easy way out in this debate by labeling all your opponents cowardly "liberals". People of many different political backgrounds - conservatives, liberals, and moderates - support abolishing DADT. Also, both veterans and non-veterans exist among supporters of equal treatment for gay servicemembers.
    As for large numbers of straights quitting the military once DADT is gone, that might sound possible, but it clearly won't happen in reality. All the arguments against open service by gay people have been disproved repeatedly in other countries when they did away with their military bans on gay service.
    Also, the reasons that people, gay or straight, join the military in the first place are too powerful to suddenly be overturned by the removal of DADT. The desire to serve one's country and earn tuition for college or graduate school is too compelling to suddenly count for nothing, simply because a few of one's colleagues are gay.
    Finally, supporters of DADT never consider that the atmosphere for straight servicemembers will probably improve once their gay colleagues no longer have to lie about or conceal a basic part of their identity. Honesty, trust and openness are the foundation of all strong social bonds. Unit cohesion will grow stronger once everyone realizes that they can be honest and straightforward with each other.
    Also, the situation of straight women in the military will certainly improve once gay men are allowed to serve openly, because there will be a new focus on preventing all forms of sexual harassment.

    February 4, 2010 at 9:30 am |
  284. Don

    Robert, I take exception to your comments. Playing your “name game” I’ll call you a Republican NEOCON, how does that play? I challenge you to look into your very own comments (bad spelling and all)… “You cry over all the talent thats supressed by the Dont ask Dont tell, but what about the straight talent that will choose to take their talents elswhere!” So, you’re all for excluding one group of Americans who want to participate in standing up to serve and protect their country over the protests of another group that wants to keep them out because of their lifestyle?

    You also said, “I can say for a 100% certainty that the "straight talent outweighs the gay talent that is currently in the military at lest 10 to 1, so while we open our arms to gay talent we are closing it for straight talent!” Really, says who? Who said that the elimination of DADT is closing any doors for anyone who is not gay or lesbian? If these people don’t want to serve with people who are “different” from them then they can stay home and the military would be the better for it.

    Then you said… “Our founding fore-fathers would be turning over in their graves if they knew we were trading straight talent for gay talent!” And pray-tell just how do you know that, are you in contact with any of them personally? Hmmm… funny you should mention the word “trade” in the same sentence when talking about “Our founding fore-fathers” who did indeed trade in human (African) flesh and had children with their slaves so it wouldn’t surprise me one little bit to hear that “one or more of our founding fore-fathers” were gay or had homosexual experiences, maybe Ben Franklin because you know he spent a lot of time with the French, going to all of those sex parties… you think maybe once he may have…

    February 4, 2010 at 9:32 am |
  285. LEE BROWN

    out of control, rizing health care cost hurts everyone economically, soyes stop it now.

    February 4, 2010 at 12:24 pm |
  286. LEE BROWN

    out of control, rizing health care cost hurts everyone economically, soyes stop it now., sorry but this ismore important than sexual preferancies.anytime...

    February 4, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
  287. Deb

    I noticed that there are a lot of comments on here, mainly from men, who are just concerned with having to shower with a gay man. I have a wake-up call for those of you who are in the military. You are serving with gay men every day and, yes, showering with them. Knowing that they are gay should not make any difference. Stop being so homophobic and do the job you are paid to do. God, people are so immature.

    February 4, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
  288. Deb

    To Robert: our fore-fathers would be turning in our graves if they knew that blacks were serving in the military. Just because our fore-fathers believed it, doesn't mean it's right. They lived over 200 years ago, the world has changed a little bit since then.

    February 4, 2010 at 1:19 pm |
  289. Joe Lopez

    Don sounds like he is bitter and childish! he is a 80 year old man trying to pick fights with people in a discussion that is clearly not in his favor!

    February 4, 2010 at 2:24 pm |
  290. Don

    Mr. Lopez, I think you’re funny, (did I say funny) because you and the others like you try to deflect when others engage you with and you rhetoric strewn comments with common sense and well thought out arguments. Everything I’ve said is based on comments made, not conjecture or “what if’s”… well maybe the comment about the “founding fore-fathers” and Ben Franklin but I think my point was made. You on the other hand cannot deal with change, therefore reality. The abolishment of DADT will happen and you and others can deal with it… or not.

    Me personally, I’m neither 80 nor am I bitter and why would I try to pick a fight on the Internet… no that’s your job. You asked me, no you made an assumption as to my military service and I responded to your accusations, you see sir, I served for 22 years and I’m proud of every minute of my service. As I stated early on, in almost every unit I’ve ever been in there were homosexuals or lesbians, and “if” as you say you served you would know that too.

    So, to end my comments, I’m not worried about this argument in my favor, it doesn’t affect me, besides, my parents taught me the value of tolerance.

    February 4, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
  291. Pat

    There was a gay attendant at my laundromat. I didn't speak to her much, but one day I asked about a knee injury she had, just as I would with any one else. Not long after, I was walking through the laundromat, looking toward the side for an empty laundry cart. I suddently felt hands at my waist. I looked forward, and she was standing in front of me with her hands still on my waist smiling up at me. I was not happy to say the least. I wouldn't have been happy if a man had done that, but at least it would have been the right sex. I never went back to that laundromat again. I later noticed that other young women who used to go to that laundromat switched to the laundromat I had switched to.
    Another time a gay travel agent invited me up to her apt. to see her fish tank ( a variation on etchings, I presume.) I declined and made some excuse. At a later time, when I never received a check for a ticket refund, I couldn't help but wonder if that was retaliation for my refusal.

    I think gays create some of their own problems when they make advances to someone who they don't know to be gay. If they meet someone at a gay hangout or function, or through friends and know they are gay, then they can feel free to make a move.

    I would be extremely uncomfortable sharing living quarters with lesbians. While gays seek to have rights, they should realize straight people have rights too.

    February 4, 2010 at 8:06 pm |
  292. Edward Lasseigne

    I respect the intelligence and fortitude of today's straight service members too much to believe that they're really afraid of their gay colleagues attacking them sexually. The chances of such attacks happening are virtually nil, and most members of the military know that.
    Sure, there are some rogue, criminal elements in both the straight and gay communities, and neither sexual orientation has monopoly on vile, boorish behavior. But the vast majority of service members, gay and straight, are honorable and would never commit make inappropriate sexual advances against their colleagues.
    I don't even believe the claims that straight service members would be uncomfortable showering and sleeping near gay colleagues, since most of them realize that they already do that, except that their gay colleagues can't come out and say who they really are.
    The "discomfort" argument is really just an "embarrassment" argument. Straight service members who come from extremely conservative families and religions would be embarrassed to have to tell their friends and families back home that one or more of their military buddies is openly gay.
    They're not afraid of being raped, which is a ridiculous idea in the first place. They're just anxious about what they would tell their homophobic folks back home about life in a military that is open and tolerant.
    If Obama, Mullen and Gates can find a solution to this embarrassment problem, whatever opposition there is in the ranks to this change will mostly disappear. And there are a lot of possible solutions out there just waiting to be discussed and implemented.

    February 5, 2010 at 1:47 pm |
  293. Steven of Jonesboro, AR

    Im just afraid if they allow gays to serve openly, there will be alot of gays murdered while serving their country, by their fellow soldiers, to many bigots in this country and ppl who hate what they dont understand, I no they can serve with honor, but they want be accepted by their fellow brothers or sisters, People tend to destroy what they dont understand, easier to kill than to love, and im not saying that in the since of having sex. I know they can serve with honor, my cousin served his country in the marine's with honor in the Vietnam war and was and still is gay. He wasa fine marine. Recieved alot of metals, even stood guard at the White House during the Nixon years, but he never came out of the closet, Still in it as far as i know he has never discussed his sex life with anyone, but the whole family has always known he was gay, just something the family never discused with him, sad really that he has never been able to talk to his family about it,, but its his preference, He knows he has other gay family members, but has never talked with us about it. Just hope the transits when they lift if goes alot better than i think it will, God helping.

    February 5, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
  294. john sudic

    PAT ,thx~~!!!

    finally somebody that puts the thing the way it is and and the reasons why not especially in the Armed Forces !

    I don't know what it is with you people is always saying gays their homosexual or lesbian.!that's the only way to describe them! Most of them are what voluntary like that it's in their mind! We tolerate that most of the time! But we have to let them rant things are wrote is right because there is they are the way they are!

    February 5, 2010 at 8:18 pm |
  295. Joe Lopez

    Mr. Don I am not ancient like you I am for change! I just don't believe that sexual preference should be acknoledeged in any workforce. While I was in the military I was fully aware of homosexuality I just dont need to know what the person sexual preference is. I really dont care as long as you do your job. So before you reply to someones points and views read more carefully throughout the page of the other points and views I made. Clearly you did not read thorough it.

    February 5, 2010 at 10:17 pm |
  296. Cheryl

    Don't Ask, Don't tell policy should not be repeal in the Armed Forces. Unless you have served in the military then you do not know the complications in repealing this law. This is not a civil rights issue. Personally, I do not understand why men want to be with men or women want to be with women.

    February 5, 2010 at 11:57 pm |
  297. Edward Lasseigne

    Cheryl, thank you for admitting that you don't really understand sexual orientation. Most opposition to gay military service stems simply from such misunderstanding and from not knowing the many honorable and responsible gay people who have already served.
    Old anti-gay stereotypes form the bulk of the opposition to lifting DADT. More dialogue and more exposure to the reality of gay people's lives and their contribution to the military are the only way to dispel those stereotypes.

    February 6, 2010 at 11:15 am |