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April 12th, 2010
07:48 AM ET

Mother Sends Adopted Boy Back to Russia

A Tennessee family adopted a boy from Russia last year and didn’t quite get what it hoped for. The family says the boy behaved violently and psychotically and they began to fear for their safety. So the mom got online, found a lawyer and followed his instructions. Those instructions: put the boy on a plane to Russia with a note in his back pack saying he was a “troubled child.”

Russia’s now saying future adoptions by Americans are on hold.

Read the whole story here. And then let us know what you think about the story.

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  1. Holly

    He is a 7 year old!!! How can a 7 year old be soooo violent that he is not worthy of parenting????

    April 12, 2010 at 8:11 am |
  2. D Sher

    Problems can be caused by lack of communication. Did the boy speak English? Did anyone in the family speak Russian?

    April 12, 2010 at 8:12 am |
  3. Joseph Kraatz, Oceanside, CA

    I think it is disgusting that persons in the U.S. adopt children from other countries. There are thousands of children in our own country that need adoption.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:12 am |
  4. Jocelyn

    What I haven't heard is what attempts (if any) the Tennessee family made to work with Russian adoption authorities (or a US-based liaison) once they realized that the child had all these issues. What about a local child psychiatrist?

    April 12, 2010 at 8:13 am |
  5. John Tyler Erie, Pa

    Doesn't anyone screen these people even though it's a foreign adoption? Too bad this woman's mother didn't get rid of her when she was seven.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:13 am |
  6. Mark New York City

    Don't we have enough children in this country that need to be adopted. Why on Earth are we going across the world to take children in when we have so many in need right in our own backyard?

    April 12, 2010 at 8:13 am |
  7. Charles gilmore

    I dont understand why we are adopting kids from other countries anyway there are thousands of american kids in centers why aren't getting them first

    April 12, 2010 at 8:14 am |
  8. Linda

    Has anyone mentioned Reactive Attachment Disorder? This can be a severe psychological disorder usually found in children who have had minimal human contact as infants, such as children from institutional orphanages.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:14 am |
  9. Diego Ferreira

    You know this case sounds alot like that movie, it's called "orphan" and it's based on a little Russian girl who was very manipulative but had very strange behavior. It just brings back memories. I'm very upalled by this story. It's very sad that in the benefit of the child, these adoption agencies seem to let all this very crucial information about a child, slip through the cracks.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:15 am |
  10. Kirk Westlake

    Why do so many families adopt kids from other countries when there are so many kids in the USA to be adopted? Are they going outside the country because they are unable to adopt in the USA?

    April 12, 2010 at 8:15 am |
  11. patty bonarrigo

    I feel that when you adopt a child , it should be on a trial basis because of situations like this. I feel sorry for the parents. They should have turned him in some where locally and then maybe the boy could get help by professionals. I feel the Russians probably knew the boy was that way. Thanks

    April 12, 2010 at 8:16 am |
  12. Sam Moore

    You do not get to "take" your kids back. I may joke with my kids about keeping the receipt to take them back, but seriously there is no exchange policy. These women were wrong to return this child, they were wrong in how they did it, and I can find no justification for what they did. If the child was a "passed off damaged child" (that just sounds wrong) then the governments needs to do more from this point forward to protect the children coming into the country (vise-versa as well).

    We can not go trying to return kids that we promise to love and care for. No questions. Think about how this poor boy feels. Unbelievable!!

    April 12, 2010 at 8:18 am |
  13. Michelle

    This is terrible! A child isnt like a package that you return to sender. Adopting a child means taking responsibility for all the issues that come with him or her. Besides if it were your own birth child you couldnt ship him or her of could you?you'd have to deal with it. That was a very wicked thing to do. The family should be charged with abondenment!

    April 12, 2010 at 8:19 am |
  14. Regina

    A friend adopted a Russian boy – turned out to have fetal alcohol system – cost the family and US taxpayers many thousand of dollars for specialists, treatment and special education, and the prognosos is not good. How many of the Russian children sent to the US are disabled? Someone ought to check those statistics.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:20 am |
  15. ssd912

    Has any one media government etc, checked hospitals, doctors, mental health providers etc within a 50 mile radius of this town to determine if these people sought help for this child or at least to substantiate their version??Do not get caught up in the legal mumbo jumbo of passing the buck. Their is no mystery to this. There is a t a minimum probable
    cause for abandonment, abuse, assault and battery,endangerment to a child,and so on.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:21 am |
  16. Cathy Fisk

    My main question is why not adopt a child from this country? There are so many children in this country that need and deserve to have a good home.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:21 am |
  17. Joan Garcia

    Why don't you investigate the types of children that are permitted to be adopted out of Russia?
    A pastor that I know was keeping his daughter's adopted Russian grandchild. She had fetal alcohol syndrome, and was wrecking havoc with the daughter's family. The pastor and his wife were lovingly caring for the child, but were totally exhausted all the time. They reported that they were aware that Russia only allows children with problems to be adopted.
    Perhaps Russia is the problem, and not so much this family who returned the child.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:22 am |
  18. Sharon Dante

    This story does not surprise me. Three years ago at our classical ballet training base in CT. we accepted two adopted Russian boys into our student base. Both boys were adopted over a decade ago but both boys (whose families did not know each other and would wish to remain annoymous) had severe and out of control emotional outbursts that were very upsetting to some of our faculty/students. In the end, as a private school, we did not feel equiped to deal with this situation and we had toask them to leave our program. In both cases, they were not capable of keeping themselves disciplined enough to attend their program requirements. In separate conversations with the parents, they had experienced these problems and each said separately that their adoptive child came from Russia with some sort of emotional problem that then became the problem for the adoptive family here in the U.S. I believe there is a bigger problem than meets the eye here. (you do not need to post this comment it is FYI)

    April 12, 2010 at 8:22 am |
  19. Julia

    I believe all sides are to blame. The Russian orphange, the Hansens, and the American adoption agency. Justin is a human being who obviously need a lot of love and attention. I am so sad for him. His mother was a nurse, so you would think she would get him help with the medical professionals. I am sure there would have been another family who would love to help him, now he is back in the orphange!!

    April 12, 2010 at 8:23 am |
  20. Dana Cranston

    The Russian adoption agency's written health and mental status records for the child should be obtained. The practices of adoption agencies in other countries, as well as in the U.S. should be carefully scrutinized. It happens that agencies sometimes just want get homes for severely compromised children and are not truthful about the mental health situation of the child to the adoptive parents, and the parents so desperately want a child they may not demand enough information about the child. Also, agencies themselves may not keep very careful health and mental status records and that way don't feel responsible for outcomes when an adoption doesn't work out..

    April 12, 2010 at 8:23 am |
  21. Dana Cranston

    Adoption Agencies mental status and health records must be released.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:24 am |
  22. Bob Dewey

    Dear Kyra,
    My wife, Sharon, are adoptive parents. We have 9 children ages 7 to 40. The youngest 5 of these are adopted. Our 30 yr old daughter, Ana, was born in Bogota, Columbia. Our 23 yr. son, Andy, came to us at 6 yr of age. He was / is mentally ill and has always had theropy and treatment.
    Adopted children cannot be sent back. They can be put in Foster care with Social System.


    Bob Dewey, Battle Creek, MI

    April 12, 2010 at 8:24 am |
  23. Sarah Vogt

    I may be one of the few people you hear from who can relate to what Nancy Hanson and her daughter were going through with their 7 year old adopted son. In the 5 years since we adopted a little 5 year old boy from an orphanage in Kazakhstan we have had the same fears for our safety and the safety of our 3 other children (one of whom is also adopted, but as an infant.) He has thrown knives at us, hammers, and broken so many mirrors, and lamps that we can't count. After 2 years of intensive therapy having finally found some people who recognize these behaviours and we have made incredible progress.
    It is amazing how ill informed and unhelpful the mainstream "experts" like clinical psychologists and psychiatrists are. They diagnosed poor Vadim with a host of things including multiple personality disorder and bipolar disorder before we finally found some experts who have been working with him and us on Reactive Attachment Disorder and repairing the "brain circuitry" and developing the neural pathways that allow normal behaviour and instincts to develop. It is such complex, exhausting, and frankly frightening experience that I now devote full time to him, at the expense of my other three children, but slowly iti is paying dividends.

    According to the adoption and foster care organization here in Richmond that is helping us, this is actually a very common syndrome within the community of children adopted or foster pareented, who have experienced extreme neglect whether in an institution or while in foster care. and it is a growing the US.

    I certainly don't condone them sending awaya little boy suffering from this intense and real fear for his safety that causes him to feel he can only survive by threatening others; however, having "been there" and in mortal fear of what my son would do, I can understand the underlying feelings that led to this decision. This is an issue and a reality a lot of people are dealing with and i think there would be a lot of interest in an indepth media look at some of the successful approaches to treating this. I plan to write a book

    April 12, 2010 at 8:25 am |
  24. Gregory B Camp,MD

    Regarding adoptions. Given the behavior reported by the US family, it's likely troublesome behavior had previously manifested in Russia. Children for adoption should be examined by a specialist in child development, not a pediatrician. Such specialists are usually either Phd's or MD's with special training in child development. I believe that in all adoptions in Connecticutt children are first evaluated by the Yale Child Study Center

    April 12, 2010 at 8:26 am |
  25. Mary Cohen

    I think people are looking at this story from an uninformed viewpoint and making a lot of judgements. There are a few things, I think people should be aware of. Children who have not had their very basic needs for attachment, care, security, etc met from a very early age can develop a very serious psychological problem known as Reactive Attachment Disorder. I have never met this child but from the description provided, and knowing he came from an orphanage, I suspect this is what the case was. If the orphanage was aware that this child had such severe issues and did not inform the adoptive family, they were negligent and irresponsible. There is also the possibility that the orphanage assumed that the American adoptive family would have the resources to get this child the very expensive and time consuming care he would need-care he would certainly never get in Russia. However, it was not a safe assumption on their part. I'm making a lot of educated guesses here but they are very educated guesses. So before anyone passes judgement on this family, I think we need to know all the facts.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:26 am |
  26. Pat Mathes, Texas

    My daughter adopted two children, a brother and sister, from Russia. The boy became disruptive. A doctor determined that they both had lead poisoning. After chelation therapy, they both are fine.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:28 am |
  27. Pamela Mathias

    NO, you dont get to adopt a child, then change your mind. He is a CHILD, you are suppose to be an ADULT. That family should have sought help for that child, not return him. He isn't an item of clothing that didn't fit. What if he had been there birth child? Couldn't return him then.
    What kind of message did this send to the child. We thought we loved you but we were wrong.
    Those parents should never be allowed to adopt again. They are not worthy of having a child.
    I am the mother of an adopted son, and there is nothing he could have done that would cause me to return him to the horrible situation he came out of.
    Every family has problems and issues they need to work through. Life doesn't run smoothly. You do NOT just get to pick an choose the issues you want to deal with. And put your fingers in your ears and shut out the rest. (la la la, I can't hear you)

    April 12, 2010 at 8:28 am |
  28. Adoption

    I am a licensed professional counselor and an adoptive parent. Adopting a child is really no different than having one biologically. There are risks involved with both. Many people have biological children who have the same problems adopted children end up having. Adoption in and of itself is a traumatic event–taking child from their biological beginnings and then moving them to even a loving family in another country has a tremendous empact on a child's development and behaviors. Better education for adoptive parents about the challenges they might face should be the focus of every adoption process. Where would you send your biological child if he/she ended up with some psychological or emotional problem.?Learning the skills necessary to parent a special needs child should be a part of any adoption plan.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:30 am |
  29. Stephanie B., New Brunswick NJ

    This family should not have adopted the child at all. They are unfit to perform the natural duties of a family–to nurture the child and deal with the obstacles put in front of them. If it was their biological child, would they have returned him to the hospital? No, they would have resolved his behavior issues like a normal family.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:30 am |
  30. Ellen Briggs

    There are always risks involved when adopting a child. So many times people aren't told important things like what the parents of the child were like. (Genes) But, adopting a child, states you will love and raise the child to the best of your ability and money should'nt be a problem. There are so many places to get counseling for a child like this. The boy could've been acting out because of jealousy or wanting extra attention. I heard the boy lived on a compound and neighbors hardly ever saw him, and the boy was never sent to school? That is mental abuse! No wonder the boy acted the way he did. Children need to be around other children and kept mentally and physically active. This family should never be allowed to adopt another child if they can't handle a little 7 year old boy. What would they do when he becomes a teenager?

    April 12, 2010 at 8:33 am |
  31. Karen

    I'm heartsick for all potential adoptive parents! This a a tragedy for all parents who are in the process of bringing their children home. The waiting process is already long and painful. The parents that sent this little boy back to Russia had to have known that this would severely hinder the adopion process for all other parents who are in this process of adopting from Russia. Potential adoptive are in my thoughts and prayers. Karen Johnson, Virginia

    April 12, 2010 at 8:33 am |
  32. Ellen Briggs

    They need to get the boy help and get him under control now, so there will be less problems down the road. Passing him off, from one family to another, from one place to another place, will only make the boy so much more confused.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:40 am |
  33. Frustrated Dad of Russian Adoptee

    Even if the medical records are released they will only tell you what they want to know. So much is never recorded over there. We are having almost the exact same issues with our daughter as so many other adopting parents have. It sounds like the child has RAD (reactive Attachement Disorder) as my daughter has been diagnosed after thousands of dollars have been spent on care and there is no "Silver Bullet" to solve for the issues that can escalate or lessen with time.

    We were also told that both children we adopted were physcially and mentally fit, but they are never truly tested for anything aside from a physical abnormality (tumor, lesions, etc) in the brain and then only if they exhibit true symptoms.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:42 am |
  34. Audrey Fryer

    Did these people think this child was a puppy and you can just return it if it doesn't fit in with your lifestyle. Good grief, who scrutinized these people. I don't care if the child had problems; these people knew that in the first instance, otherwise why would you go to Russia to adopt – lots of people adopt "special needs" children and understand that the child will require lots of care and medical attention. They adopt for the betterment of the child and not for the betterment of their ego, example "I adopted a child in need of care and attention from a Russia orphanage – what a good person I am".

    Finally, this child is only a 7 year old baby.


    April 12, 2010 at 8:45 am |
  35. Olga Atlas

    It's outragous and heartbreaking. Also, understand that foster care in Russia is brutal. Their whole psyche is damaged. I heard stories about adopted Russian kids standing with the knife while their parents are asleep.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:45 am |
  36. Marie

    We have adopted or daughter at age 9 from Russia. Although she does not have any serious mental issues, other than the issues associated with abandonment etc... we did have her in counseling for many years. She is now 16 years old and doing very well, thank God. We spent many difficult years transitioning and we feel blessed that we have our family in tact after all we've been through. Although I do not condone the actions of this mother, as an adoptive parent of an orphaned child, I can understand the complex issues that accompany any child coming from such circumstances. So many are quick to condemn this mother and grandmother with no knowledge of the Russian adoption system. Russian officials are not forthcoming with much information concerning your adoptive child, we received one typed sheet of paper outlining our child's life of 8 years! The system in Russia is very intimidating and asking questions is risky. While in Russia we at times feared for our lives. Americans are not welcome and many Russians are fiercly opposed to having "their" children adopted out of the country even if their own citizens will NOT adopt them. I write this in an attempt to help the general public understand the complexities of this process.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:49 am |
  37. el

    I cannot understand why ppl feed the need to adopt overseas when clearly there are many many thousands of children right here, waiting and in desperate need of adoption.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:16 am |
  38. dbcooper

    I am glad these people realized the child was beyond their level of control and did the correct thing by seeking help. You hear of too many parents that have killed their own children instead of seeking help.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:17 am |
  39. Sami

    I think that the boy may have had some problems, but help could've been found for him in the US. I believe that the mother had a rash decision in a moment of fear that is now putting her into the spotlight. We all make such rash decisions, it's just sometimes parents can't afford such mistakes. When there is another life you're molding in the balance, frustrations and fears must be put aside and it must be remembered that, in the end, it is a child and you are supposed to help them even in times like they were presented.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:18 am |
  40. michael armstrong sr.

    No deposit No return have any of you ever had an unruly child that dont get there way it's like having Chuky looking at you while your sleeping and if you try to get help then people blame the problem on you because it's alway's the parent's fault sleeping with one eye open is no fun I myself had had a kid like this and would have sent him to the Russin front if I had the opertunity .

    April 12, 2010 at 9:19 am |
  41. Samantha Hicks

    Sadly, there are some things you cannot just fix emotionally. I had a biological child that had numerous issues and was diagnosed with minimal brain damage at birth. But the doctor said at her testing at the age of 3 that she was educable and didn't know what her outcome would be. She was diagnosed with probably 5-6 different medical labels throughout her childhood; unfortunately they don't tell you what to do about those diagnosed labels. It's a lifelong commitment and it's never easy. I can't say that I blame these people. They probably aren't aware of the emotional damage that has been done prior to their adopting this child. If it's endangering your home, your family, and your life, there needs to be an alternative. Is it a group home? I don't know, but there obviously needs to be professional intervention. My heart goes out to them for the decision they had to make.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:19 am |
  42. Shawn

    WE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM THAT WE TREATED WITH DIET. When our son was 3 he was uncontrollable, he would freak-out in public places, threaten to kill us, lose total control of himself. This was more than a tantrum. much more.
    WE TREATED HIM WITH DIET. We went to a fairly progressive east/west medicine doctor who suggested putting him on a diet of NO SUGAR, NO WHEAT, NO DAIRY. IN 3 weeks he was a totally different kid. The doctor had told us that our child had a very bad yeast infection (commonly found in autistic kids) which was inhibiting the absorption of vitamin B-12, which was important for frontal lobe development. I was very, very skeptical but converter when I saw how diet was able to transform my child. Happy to share more if interested.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:20 am |
  43. Russian Boy - Sent Home

    While it does seem very harsh, I fully understand the parents decision. If the boy had been given the opportunity to stay and follow through on some of his threats he probably would be charged and ultimately imprisoned. By sending him back to his native country he is no longer a threat to his family or other Americans. Additionally, it seems to me that because the parents were not given the benefit of meeting with the child prior to the adoption there is probably some corruption in the Russian adoption process and it is my guess that this boy was chosen because he had been a problem in Russia and they wanted to rid themselves of him.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:21 am |
  44. Marcus Cardoso

    It's unbelievable what that family did. When did we start treating our children as if they were a piece of merchandise that we changed our minds on? We're talking about a human being here. A parent's love is supposed to be unconditional, and it is true that sometimes as parents we, alone, don't have the tools needed to help our children through their struggles, but we seek out the needed help. We don't give up on them and we certainly don't throw them away.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:23 am |
  45. Linda Mowrey

    What would these people have done with their own biological child if they were found to have psychological problems? Left them on the street corner with a note stating "free to good home", or would they have taken them for counselling or treatment? Did they ever take the child to a pyschologist? I feel they handled the situation poorly, and did not treat the child as if he truly belonged to them. Adopting children is not like picking out a new pair of shoes, you can't just send them back to where you got them. In my opinion, these people should not be allowed to adopt any more children from ANY country.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:23 am |
  46. Moon

    Persons adopting children from a foreign country are at a distinct disadvantage. You are dealing with a different culture, a different type of society, you have no idea why a child has been placed for adoption, what problems the child may have been exposed to or what problems the child may personally have. Seems to me there are plenty of American born children which should be available for adoption. I don't understand this but seems I have heard more instances of foreign children with these problems than American children.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:23 am |
  47. jeanette

    Maybe people who are going to adopt a child, especially a child from other countries, war torn or impoverished countries, should have to take classes or something to education them on the pit falls of adopting these kids. I think a lot people think having a baby or adopting is so romantic and it is going to fulfill "them" and don't think about the fact that they know nothing about the genetics or mental health of the child they are adopting. Being a parent is a job, the hardest job in the world, and not always pleasant. If you adopt a child that is "your" child it's not a pair of pants that you can return when they don't fit you. The idea of returning a child or adopting a child and abusing it because you can't handle it is appalling.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:24 am |
  48. Nina VandeWater

    We live in Franklin, TN, an upper middle class town in the 7th richest county in the U.S. About a month ago, a 23 yr. old stabbed his mother while she was in bed and then stabbed his 21 yr. old brother in his bed. He died in hospital. The mother lived. Jesse, the perpetrator, was found in a movie theater in San Antonio the next day. My point being that mental illness, and I would guess the above story illustrates that, needs to be handled, probably medically, or, like the mom with the Asian son, be prepared to protect your other children because there will come a day when you may not be big enough to stop a 230 lb. troubled son with a kitchen knife. My heart goes out to everyone who may have a bipolar or borderline or other syndrome that I don't know above relative. It is a tough row to hoe.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:24 am |
  49. David

    I hate to say this, but it serves them well what they go through with all of these mentally unstable kids, that are adopted from other countrietowns bring a flood of problems to our shores, when we have so many great kids in our own back yard that don't suffer the same problems, and no one cares to adopt. I don't understand why they only want Asian, Russian or Polish kids? These are the ones that have been broken mentally and physically by their own society.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:24 am |
  50. Renee

    This is a tough one. Our daughter was friends in kindergarten with an adopted Russian girl. After several play dates at our home and her parent’s home, my husband and I had to make a difficult decision not to allow any more play dates. Our daughter's behavior began to change for the worse and the discipline and structure exhibited from the other parents were not in line with ours.

    This caused an awful separation between our families as well as retaliation from the little girl against our daughter during school hours. Some days the two were able to interact at school and some days our daughter would come home with terrible stories of retaliation. We have considered changing schools and feel terrible about the entire situation. This little girl has been suspended numerous times from the school because of her behavior. Everyone is affected, not just the students but the teachers and staff.

    It is an epidemic for the entire community when children have severe behavioral issues. Not just adopted children from other countries, but all children. I wish there was more the educational system could do to offer counseling and rehabilitation for parents dealing with these issues.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:25 am |
  51. Anonymous

    I think this is pause for us all considering the meaning of parenthood. To me, adoption is the same as giving birth. I would never consider abandoning a birth child who encountered psychological difficulties in life (in fact, this a cause for showing even more strongly how much you are willing to stand by your child). Likewise, I would offer the same unconditional love to my adoptive child. The love of a parent is supposed to be unconditional, under any circumstances.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:26 am |
  52. Jeffrey

    Hello All.

    My wife and I adopted a local child (Atlanta) approx 9 years ago. My son was much like the child from Russia. Our relatives and friends thought we were nuts for adopting this child. He too threaten to kill all of us. We had to hide anything he could possibly use as a weapon. He too was fascinated with fire like the Russian boy. He also had mastered the art of self mutilation. Here's the thing, we had visitations with him for almost a year before we were able to "foster to adopt" him. His personally changed 180 degrees once he moved in with us. He mom was on drugs before, during and after his birth. He had never had a stable environment and therefore, he had no idea how to live in such a setting. The path was rough, many many years of counseling. Many many nights on my knees asking the Lord if we had made a mistake.

    I could go on and on about him but I don't have the time. Bottomline, once we made the commitment to him there was no turning back. Even during the "foster to adopt" period when we could have given him back to the State, we honored our commitment to him.

    Most likely if we had not stepped into his young life, he would be dead or in jail.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:28 am |
  53. Stlan in Pensacola

    I worked in a mental hospital for the better part of nine years and had the opportunity to observe the type of sociopathic, or bwhhavior problem children you are talking about with this latest incident. While I don't think the mother did the right thing I can truly understand where she is coming from. It is wonderful to think that there are cures or solutions for lots of things but the stark reality is quite eifferent. Is there any hope? Probably not much in a lot of cases otherwise our society would not have other institutions like maximum secuarity prisons. As it stands now, the best we seem to do with all mental illness is to control it with drugs and it is really hard to imagine changing an already affected mind even in the far future. It was very well thought out that your story on such kids did point out that there is often no such thing as a happy ending.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:28 am |
  54. Deb


    The trouble isn't only in Russia, the same problems exist in the US. I totally get where this mother is coming from and why she did it. As the adoptive mother of 2 boys from the US, we have seen it all. My oldest boy is 12 and we have been battling since he was 3! He has been to numerous therapist, psychiatrist, out of home placement at 6 for behavior and then again he was sent to Kentucky to try and turn his behavior around for 2 1/2 years. Nothing has helped. These kids are smart and can manuipulate any situation to their likeing. My child has RAD, ODD, depression, PTST. He takes a cocktain of medication to calm down. Home life is hell and his little brother is learning by the older one which is not good. Many people think you are exaggerating what goes on at home because they are so slick on the outside. There simply isn't enough help for adoptive kids and forget about using the medical coupons as if you find a good therapist they aren't going to take the medical coupons and you will end up paying thousands of dollars as we did. We have already called the police and since he is turning thirteen its been advised to keep calling them for any threat so that a record of behavior problems. Any parent of a RAD child deserves better and should
    be given praises by all. Their life and dreams have all gone away as are mine

    April 12, 2010 at 9:29 am |
  55. Ted


    I would like to comment on the people who send adopted children back that they have problems with. These children are not pets that, just because they strike out are sent back to the pet shop. Don't forget that they feel unwanted, or that in many cases they think that no one wants them. A vast majority of them come from broken homes, or were abused. It takes a lot of work to gain their trust, to make them feel wanted. If it were your naturally born child, where would you send them? My wife and I adopted our son. We had some problems while he was growing up. But we got thru it. Raising a child is challenging, just like anything else we do in life. Where would we be if we gave up whenever we run into problems. Life is a challenge.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:31 am |
  56. Stacey

    We adopted a 21/2 year old girl from Ukraine. She is vibrant, spirited and seems to be "adjusting well". She does frequent outbursts and was a breath holder for attention and anxiety.
    She was misdiagnosed as an epileptic in the orphanage (breath holding). As a nurse, I was able to read her medical records through a translator to discover the true medical situation. The Russian medical system is much different than our own and children are labled with false diagnoses (esp with orphans) so they can be adopted. The other problem is the adoption agencies that are incompetent with the Health care system. Once the money is paid to them, you are your own advocate in the country and they essentially sign off. We were given 15 minutes to chose a child by looking at file laminated folders. After the 15 minutes elapse, you may or may not be invited back to pick another child. In order to get a healthy referral, one must say "yes" to a sick child and then refuse. It is a bit of a hazing process. When we called our agency, they said–"We don't know anything. We have never been in the country before." I don't understand how an agency can ethically guide you if they have never sent any of their employees to the country. "You'll have to figure it our for yourself–they said" Luckily, my husband and myself are strong willed individuals and stayed the course. This was just the beginning of the exhausting process.. Through God's hands we were presented our daughter in a difficult process.
    I forsee many issues occuring because agencies are inadequate not providing families with the proper guidance while in country. Secondly, the healthcare systems of many countries are different from our own and it takes knowing much medical knowledge to truly assess the child and medical records. And this is done through a translator! I don't know how I would have been able to understand our daughter's misdiagnose of epilepsy if I wasn't able to read her EEG and records. I did know that her mother and father did not drink or do drugs.

    The process of adopting needs to be revisited by the media and ethical standards need to be created by our own agencies.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:42 am |
  57. Jimmi Nok

    The description above from Katherine Dee Hansen is an exact parallel to my experience with my ex-wife. Born into an abusive family herself where she experienced severe sexual abuse from childhood. Then rained down her version of "Chaos to Exhaustion" onto my life. She always had this creepy sly smile on her face as she enacted her terror; she enjoyed it.

    America has their own "troubled children." They pervade our society and their children (my children now being raised by her) propagate the syndrome. This is fueled, purposely, by our "justice" system that thrives on the chaos they create and nurture by their greedy self-interest and careless antagonism; an extension of "ambulance chasing." Ambassador Kirby is simply one higher level example of the system that placed him in Washington; the ultimate achievement of any lawyer.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |
  58. dianemitchell

    Russia pawns off their abused/neglected orphans on US suckers with $$$.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:54 am |
  59. Amy Elkridge, MD

    What if you don't have $3500.00 dollars a month to send a child to a fancy ranch in Montana?

    I do think it was outrageous the grandmother put that boy on a plane for Russia with just a note. Surely, there was a better way.

    I think there are so many parents going through difficult times with adopted and natural children... more information about resources available to parents of troubled children needs to be made public and accessible.

    There are families out there suffering everyday, without a clue what they should do.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:55 am |
  60. Natalie504

    No. U should not be able to bring back an adopted child. Children do not come with a warranty. Just as with birth children, you can't be certain of the outcome. This is why we have Foster Care.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:57 am |
  61. Stacey

    This a second comment the adoptive mom of the Ukraine girl. When we ask our daughter (age 21/2), she has very positive comments of her caregivers and the orphanage. She ate 5 meals a day with hot tea in a china tea cup. She lovingly talks about her friends and her environment there. I feel that this is definitely attributing to her good adjustment. We call her our ukraine soultrain–because she is very spirited. Your segment definitely made me think of the potential issues and I will now read more about them-because she is spirited:)

    April 12, 2010 at 9:58 am |
  62. Lena

    I am from Russia and I was adapted by one Russian family from another Russian family.
    All adapted children go through a tremendous stressful process and boys tend to show more violence. These children are not evil; they just express their anger on their “child-simple” way and in many cases they don’t meant it. Many parents are not aware about a cultural difference. In some countries an expression “to kill you” is only an expression, it doesn’t matter how rude and offensive it sounds. Many people don’t realize it.

    Additionally, all adapted children come from broken families where violence and threat was a common part of life. I am wondering what these new parents are expecting?? It is a great responsibility to adapt a child and many people can’t realize it. A child is not a product that in case if it “doesn’t” work, you can leave it back.

    Sending them back gives these children a new big stress, disappointment with life and terrible feeling that they are abandon by the whole world. Nobody understands them.

    New parents need to get help to communicate with their children, learn their cultural background, culture and understand why children behave on such way.

    I think it is much better to send a child to a ranch instead of “psychic” hospital. It gives family a second chance and first of all to a child.
    I am praising a “ranch- woman” who takes care of all children and has an admirable big heart.

    When it comes to my life experience: I was never sent back (they couldn’t) but I was treated so badly, that I still hate my adapted parents, although they and I share the same culture and language.
    So it is not from WHENCE children come, it is about HOW they are treated.

    All the best.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:00 am |
  63. The Dude

    For all of you asking about why people go abroad to adopt, I have 2 things to say:

    1) Babies are born without borders. Every child in the world, inside and outside the USA, is equally deserving. It is a matter of personal reasons for each adopting family.

    2) How children have you adopted?

    Proud father of a neglected Russian child.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:04 am |
  64. Gail

    I have heard of a number of Russian adopted children who are very hard to raise with violence and destructive behavior. Think they need to contact other families with these children to see what they have experienced. This is not a one time situation....

    April 12, 2010 at 10:04 am |
  65. nicki

    Dont we have enough children to adopt here in the United States? dont we have enough children to feel sorry for here in the United States?

    April 12, 2010 at 10:04 am |
  66. Hollie

    My mother was a social worker, she does not believe in adoption and for years I could not understand why she felt the way she did. Now, I do as a mother of two young children, I now realize that so many people think children are disposable. I don't care what problem he could have had, you get help and all the help you can get and you love your child. This mother is weak and should be punished.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:06 am |
  67. Gigi Harrison

    As a adopted parent I think the grandmother is WRONG! First, she has no legal right over the child – the parents does. Second – before coming an adopted parent you should look into the child background – we did for our & then made the decision & accepted her (if she had any problems) but we did our homework. They should had expected that the child could or might have problems being in an orphanage & no parents. Please they were in total denial. Now, what if that was the biological child – would child return back in the womb :).

    April 12, 2010 at 10:07 am |
  68. Linda Stevens

    I don't think either the child or the family should be believed until both the parents and the child are seen and evaluated by INDEPENDANT Psychiatrists. Each should be evaluated by different doctors. Then some decisions can be made about who is the problem in this case.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:08 am |
  69. marina

    THIS WOMAN IS A MONSTER! She has beaten the poor boy, she's pulled his hear!
    She was afraid to go to prison – and because of this she sent him to Moscow!!!
    If the boy was treated so badly (by this woman)– of course he may have a list! But this is ridiculous – he is just a little child and ALL THIS TROUBLE – ONLY BECAUSE THIS MONSTER WOMAN CANNOT LOVE THIS CHILD! She adopted him only because of the money!!! I would never believe that she tried to love him!!!

    April 12, 2010 at 10:10 am |
  70. Terri

    This is ridiculous! What do people expect a child to be like when they adopt them from an impoverished country? When you give birth to a child naturally, you are responsible for them if they are healthy or not. It is the same with adoption! It is a commitment for better or worse. This poor child has been through so much in his life and instead of having compassion and love for him they just sent him back to Russia to be homeless.
    They should probably take her other kids away from her too, god forbid what happens if her daughter gets the flu or a mental illness? Is she going to send her back to the maternity ward?
    I agree with the Russian government's decision to not allow Americans to adopt children from there anymore.
    Americans are obviously so flaky now a days that they don't deserve a child. I am voting for mandatory sterilization for this woman and her entire family.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:11 am |
  71. teacher

    I agree with Katherine that CNN needs to look into Reactive Attachment Disorder. We've had a few students (adopted) with this issue. A lack of bonding in the early months/first years of life has long term implications. Please shed more light on Reactive Attachment Disorder.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:14 am |
  72. tatyana Melnikoff

    thank you for receiving this. one point: i read your story, objectively. ONE word stood out, screamed out, leaving red flags everywhere!
    The American mother's quote: "I was afraid he was going to hurt MY
    (MY) family." Shouldn't that have been "our..." Adopting a child to get state funding, say, for YOUR family is sickening. He's not there to bring in money to take care of HER kids. MY, MY. (If you print this, please do so in full context. Thank you.)

    April 12, 2010 at 10:15 am |
  73. Bill

    Do you really think that Russia would allow their best children to be adopted? It is akin to playing Russian roulet- one out of 4 will be a loser. Adoption rules should be stricter for foreign adoptions and eased for American children.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  74. Homeless D in Atlanta

    I think kids get the ideas for what they SAY from what they see on TV or in video games. I wonder if all the kids we see on the news and on those "nanny" shows are really BAD, or if a good spanking would not change their attitude pretty quickly.

    I think the demise of the spanking has led to many of these situations. In so many of the cases spotlighted on TV the parent's response to violent behavior seems to be time outs and reasoning with the kid.

    THEY'RE KIDS! You can't 'reason' with a kid. That's why they say kids have to reach a certain age to be at the 'age of reason'.

    I suggest that parents try taking control of their kids from a very young age and not allow the CHILD to rule the home.

    Maybe for those who adopt there should be at least a year of living with the child before taking the final step. That way any problems would be made clear at once. However, I do not believe that sending the child back like some some refused merchandise is totally wrong. It cannot possibly help the situation.

    April 12, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  75. Carl

    Of course its child abuse to send a child around the globe unescorted without adult supervision regardless of any excuses. Of course its child abuse that the airline was complicit in allowing the child to travel unescorted. Of course Russia is right in recognizing this as a crime and disallowing any future adoptions until real action is taken to correct it in America. THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL.

    April 12, 2010 at 11:36 am |
  76. Magda Menner

    This situation is unfortunate on so many levels. Adoption is a gamble, sometimes you get more than you bargained for. Regardless from where in the world you adopt the child, once you do adopt, the child is now your responsibility.

    I have lived both the nightmare & experienced the joy that adoption can bring.

    I have 1 RAD / FAE nephew (US born), he's 13 & institutionalized now. He has been violent & unpredictable from age 2. Setting fire to the house & attempting to stab his younger brother while he was asleep are just some of the highlights. Unfortunately, all of the therapys, special education, etc. were lost on this child. He is safe, we are safe.

    (Poster Katherine Dee Hansen knows exactly what I'm takling about re; the above paragraph. For after reading her post-she too has lived the nightmare!)

    His brother, also US born (adopted from another family) is 12, has FAE and is the complete polar opposite. Literally, the church-going Boy Scout.

    Unfortunately, in many States, the goal of Child Services is to get children into families, not out of them.

    I also had a cousin who was adopted, when she turned 13, and the hormones kicked in, her personality changed & her behavioral problems surfaced. There was no formal diagnosis for FAS in the late 1970's. The psychiatrists & experts kept telling my Aunt & Uncle that this was behavior that my cousin would grow out of. She succumbed to her suicidal tendencies in 2002.

    Happy to share more if anyone is interested.

    April 12, 2010 at 11:42 am |
  77. Lorraine

    I adopted a Russian orphan 18 years ago. She was always a problem. She screamed and cursed at me all the time. I just didn't know what to do! Love and therapy was not enough. Our doctors don't know what to do with these children. I put her in therapy at a very young age but nothing seemed to help.
    She is now 20 years old and still screaming. She has been diagnosed with many Bipolar, PTSD, schizo-affective disorder and several other things.
    If anyone can help I would appreciate it.
    My heart goes out to this mother of the Russian boy. She just didn't know what to do and there was no one to help her.

    April 12, 2010 at 11:54 am |
  78. military dad

    I am so shocked that so called wanna be parents would send a 7 year old child back to russia alone. It's apparent that these adults weren't ready to be a parent, just in love with the idea of adopting some random cute little boy. When you adopt a child, you take on all the responsibilities of raising that child, good and bad. I wonder what the family would have done if this was their biological child, drop him off at the local fire department.

    April 12, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
  79. Susie

    Instead of trying to get this troubled child some help this "family" added to his mental instability. In my opinion they should face child endangerment and neglect charges...Children do not come with guarantees

    April 12, 2010 at 12:34 pm |
  80. Michael

    Russia is a hard place. The orphans have extremely difficult lives. Many are abused and molested. If you decide to adopt from Russia you are taking a gamble on what you will get.

    Adopt from here, there are plenty of healthy children that just want a family.

    April 12, 2010 at 12:47 pm |
  81. Smith360

    This child might have been previous placed by its adoption agency into various foster homes and found to be in the hard to place category. This child also might have greatly resented leaving the country of his birth there in Russia. Either way, it certainly sounds like this child had deep seated emotional problems and greatly resented his being orphaned out to an American family.

    April 12, 2010 at 1:57 pm |
  82. L.C.

    The question begs to be asked .... why, with all the children in this be allowed to adopt a child from a foreign couny waiting for adoption, would any

    April 12, 2010 at 3:13 pm |
  83. Em

    People ask "Why are Americans adopting from Russia and not the United States where we have so many children waiting to be adopted?" Well, there is a very good reason in most cases; the cost. I had a conversation with a woman about two years ago regarding their adult child who had tried to adopt here in the US and the amount of money it would have cost them was upward of $25,000.00. So, they adopted from Russia for a total of $10,00.00 (if I remember correctly). It's sad that children waiting to be adopted have a hefty "price tag" attached to them, when all they want is someone to love them.

    April 12, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
  84. Em cost them $10,000 and I believe this included the price of flying back and forth between Russia and the U.S.

    April 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
  85. michael armstrong sr.

    Who cares about what Russia thinks let them boycot adoption theres plenty of kids hear in America that needs homes .

    April 12, 2010 at 5:28 pm |
  86. Florence

    I would never adopt a Child from any other Country.
    There is Children in our own Country who go to bed without food.

    April 12, 2010 at 7:18 pm |
  87. Paul

    I am a 28 year police veteran in a large city and have had to deal with a couple who adopted three childen from Russia. Without gettng into specifics details I can tell you unequivocally that these children exhibited many of the same behaviors this woman is describing. I don't believe some countries have social services that are up to American standards and anyone adopting a child from a foreign country should consider this.

    April 12, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  88. Frida

    How could anyone think of sending a child to Russia alone? Did they really think the best way to solve the problem was simply to ship the boy back to Russia? They are so ugly...

    April 12, 2010 at 9:13 pm |
  89. mom of two

    You folks who rant about adopting all the "available" kids in this country don't understand...there are no babies, toddlers or even pre-schoolers. Do you see any orphanages? And the average age of a child available through foster care is almost 9 years old. Who can blame a parent for wanting to get a child as young as possible - before all the trauma and emotional baggage?

    As for getting help, you've got to be kidding. Some therapists have waiting lists of 6 months or more...not too helpful when your kid is running away, torturing animals or putting a fist through a wall.

    As for residential placements, you almost have to be independently wealthy (insurance doesn't cover it). Believe it or not, the Ranch's $3,500 a month is one of the cheapest options around, Check out National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Organizations and see tuitions of $10,000 a month or more.

    So what would you do if someone was threatening to harm you or your other children and there were no options? I understand that people don't understand the complexities...I just wish they would be a bit more educated before passing judgment on others.

    April 12, 2010 at 9:49 pm |
  90. 30dayReturnPolicy

    It doesn't matter where the child came from, here or abroad. Adoption means that he is "THEIR" child, "THEIR" responsibility. They have the same responsibilities to him as if he was born in the family. I'm not sure but I don't think there is a 30 day return policy. Their actions are criminal and charges should be filed. Not taking action against the family would mean that any parent could ship adopted kids to the returns department when it suits them.

    April 13, 2010 at 2:37 am |
  91. sal signorelli

    the boy is only 7yrs old if u really wanted the boy u would try everything . sending him back should be the last resort

    April 13, 2010 at 7:01 am |
  92. John Tyler Erie, Pa

    People should realize that adopting a child from a foreign country will have some problems adapting to a new country and culture. You can't treat them like a pair of shoes that don't fit at home like they did in the store so you take them back. This will only hurt the ability of good loving Americans to adopt a child from Russia.

    April 13, 2010 at 7:56 am |
  93. frank firter

    Since when has a kid become a product on the shelf you can just go and return. The family needs to realize they are expected to be PARENTS to this CHILD. A seven year old and many young children need discipline. If they act out you need to tell them no do not do that. Just because the child is from Russia does not mean they can use it as an excuse to return the child. The fact is they agreed to adopt the child so they are responsible. I honestly feel bad for the kid now he thinks no one wants him. This is not a case of trouble child it’s a case of Ignorant parenting and neglect to discipline like a parent should. The blame does not rest on the child nor does the country he comes from it rest on the parents who were clearly not ready to take on the responsibility and became over whelmed.

    April 13, 2010 at 9:46 am |
  94. JENNA


    It is sad that this little boy is damaged goods. Russia should have been forthcoming instead of sending this boy to an unprepared mother. It takes special people to take care of special needs kids. I am sure that she did the best that she could. All in all, it was a bad experience for the boy and the mother.

    For Russia to now claim that they are appauled and will no longer allow adoptions is further proof to me that they knew this boy was damaged and they got caught.

    Who will suffer? Russian kids without homes.

    Roseville CA

    April 13, 2010 at 11:47 am |
  95. tammy driskill

    Has anyone changed the diet of the boy from Russia, adopted then returned due to severe behaviour? Some food additives (MSG) food coloring, preservatives, pesticide residue, chemicals, etc. can cause disturbances in adults and children alike.

    April 13, 2010 at 12:58 pm |
  96. Eddie B.

    I have to agree with Florence, with so many children in this country without families, why are these people going so far to adopt? I feel for all these children from all over the world, but we need to help our own first. We would adopt if we could, but thats impossible with 4 kids already and living on a middle class income.

    April 14, 2010 at 1:17 am |
  97. Tina Keurig

    People say that there are resources for this Mom. But I have read countless stories of parents mortgaging their homes in order to pay for for such "resources" and these mentally ill children still cannot be helped. One has to wonder why this Mom was only allowed to have four days to spend with her "SON" before having to make the decision to adopt him. She had to put faith into the Orphanage that he was mentally sound.

    Get your facts straight before you find this wanna be Mom guilty. Children are often tried for murder as adults in our country! Could this child have been one of them? I'll be this Mom was in fear of her life and angry as hell at the attitude of the orphange who collected a huge fee from her.

    April 14, 2010 at 10:54 am |
  98. John Holmes

    Russia has problems. If you adopt a grown child from there the child will have issues. Adopt an infant from russia and you will be better off. Life in russia is hard. The grown children that are up for adoption have had a hard life. Many have been abused. Many have been molested. The child in question was taken from his parents and was a ward of the state. Of course they would say nothing was wrong with him so they could wipe him off their books.

    No change of diet will change the behaviour of a child who was beaten. Time and love are the only solutions. However, you may find your house burning down first.

    April 14, 2010 at 1:00 pm |
  99. EricaRW

    I have a 2yr old child that's going through "the terriable 2's", does that mean I get 2 put her back because its hard 4 me as a single mother?! Being a parent suppose 2 be hard because its one of the most important and hardest jobs u'll ever have in ur life! If they got reid of this kid and they happen 2 have children of their own... I'd hate 2 know what they'd do 2 them if it wasn't working out! As the parents of that little boy, they're the ones who chose him and because he's not perfect or what they exspected now they want 2 get reid of him cause its easier on them! Those idiots would have rather pay a cab driver and a ticket 2 Russia instead of getting him some professional help! If they really wanted a perfect child, than they should have made one in a lab instead of adopting one! As a parent ur job is 2 teah ur kids 2 grow so that they become productive citizents, so I am wondering "what the hell were these ppl thinking?" Not ev1 is meant or fixed

    April 15, 2010 at 6:13 am |
  100. Somebody thats interested?!!!?,G.A

    wwwwwwwwoooooowwwwwww!!!!!! how can this boy do something like this?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

    April 15, 2010 at 8:29 am |
  101. Dave

    With all the children in the US that need families why do we need to adopt any kids from other countries. Every one wants to help other countries around the world and ignore whats going on right here. How much could the billions of dollars do here in the United States instead of in other countries. We are not responsible for the whole world.

    April 16, 2010 at 9:07 am |
  102. hawa

    That woman was wrong. That family was wrong. They should have tried all other avenues before that action. And thus, there would be sayings and "proof" that the boy was indeed beyond aid and parenting. No one receives a perfect child. I'm now wondering about the boys relationship to the other siblings. Was it abvious in words and in nonverbal ways that he was adopted? The family i hope treated him as if he were their own and instructed everyone to do so? Something doesn't sound right here. Adopting a kid is like asking God for a kid after a long time. Then he finally feels sorry for you and gives you one. You remember how long you had wanted one and try EVERYTHING possible to raise him or her.

    Parenting isn't easy. If you know you are allergic to heat, you should have never entered the kitchen. Shame.

    April 16, 2010 at 9:24 am |
  103. EricaRW

    I can no believe that there r actually ppl out there who can say, "I can understand, why they did this 2 this kid!" It just makes me wonder what kind of ppl they r that they can say something like that! I have a brother who is handicapp, a sister who has A.D.D and my other sister might have A.D.D. as well and my family and I deal with it! My brother lives in a place that helps him and I bring him home as much as I can because I love him and I wouldn't have it any other way and he can't talk! My sisters use 2 live with me and the oldest one pulled a knive out on me more than once, but I didn't get reid of her, but my aunt took them so that I could go back 2 work! She adopted them and I get them during the summer's which is great! My brother, mother and grandmother all passed within months of each other and it took awhile 4 my family 2 get back on track, but we did it with God's help! My sister is getting help cause she has other problems, but we deal with it as a family with outside help, but we deal! My sister's and my brother & my child all mean the world 2 me and I have had 2 give up a lot of different things & plans in my life in order 2 care for my family, but it as always been wroth it! I am a mother first, a am a sister 2, a woman and a child of God! And in my life my family comes first after God, it is a struggle ev'day 2 make sure ur during the right things 4 them no matter how old they r or whether u have given birth 2 them or not! Being a parent has its good days and its bad days, it doesn't come with a handbook, or rewards and there's no thing as perfection, but when u have that tittle ur suppose 2 honor it and treat it with care... U don't package it away and ship it off because ur stressed! Not ev1 is meant 2 be a parent or fitted 2 do the job, but u still owe 2 ur children 2 be the best parent that u can! Its about the childs needs not urs 'cause that child/children did not ask 2 be here! There was so many other outlets that this mother and her family could have used, but they chose 2 do worng!

    April 20, 2010 at 10:11 am |