I want your input. What do you think about all-black homerooms for schools kids? Before you react, please check out this article from Lancaster News.
i think this is rather racist, say what your want but i think this is ia major step backwards.
Bad, bad idea. Its just going to cause more uproar about segregation even if there are good intentions, or it is working out.
Who would propose such an idea as segregation during the month of MLK day?
This is a horrible idea. Separating by race for ANY reason is UNAMERICAN. I really can't believe people are going for this
I believe that all schools should try this approch to see if they can get better results in the classroom. There would be far less distractions if you tried this. I wonder what type of results you'd get if you did this with rich and poor kids.
I do not agree that we should segregate students in classroom based on their race and gender because at the end of the day. This world is variety of different ppl and we need to learn how to work and socialize with one another.
Who cares if the classes are divided by race and sex. As long as it works and keeps our children learning and works. We have to make sure our future generations are ready to take us into the future.
I think it's a novel approach, but have one important suggestion. Allow the students a choice as to whether or not they wish to attend a race-segregated homeroom. If there is a positive response for the 'experiment' from the students, this is certainly a strong platform in favor of the segregation.
I think that its racist if they're only doing it for the black students.Why can't they do that for the white students to?? i don't understand it
I don't care who's idea it is-it's a return to the failed ideas of the past. Kids who learn how to work together in the classroom will know how to work together in the office.
I on one hand like the research that went into topic, myself being an African American male in college find that I study better when I am with other black pupils like myself. However, I do not like the idea that this should be brought into play in the school environment as a whole. I firmly believe that it should be a persons choice to separate himself or herself from others, whether by race, gender or social fitting. I feel as if this one gesture will grow into a bigger one which will reinforce some ideas on segregation on different levels. I might be over reacting but I am very iffy on this subject.
So long as it's separate, but equal.
But all seriousness aside, when a problem is as severe as the academic failure of an entire group, anything is worth a try. Cosby touted historically black colleges on his Cosby Show; is it possible that black schools with an honest goal of helping students succeed, rather than trying to hold them down, is an idea whose time has come? I have no idea, but it's a shame to see so much potential go to waste.
What message are we sending if we allow this to happen. Segregation was fought against for many years. Many people gave their lives to stand up against it. Should we not already know that this is a horrible idea. Despite all of the so call positives? What type of damage have they already forced on these children, not to mention their parents and now America? Give me one good reason to do this and I can give you 10 for not doing it.
One word....DIVISIVENESS!!!!!!!!!!! Why not have black teachers be mentors for every child, regardless of race....
Bring the black teachers in.....leave the classroom alone!
Every example of improvement that they trot out as justification seems to stem from the change in attitude about the homeroom itself, not the relation of race and sexes. There's no reason that the same issues and discussions could not be addresses in a fully integrated classroom.
All ideas hold the potential to be manifested as tools. As with all tools, the intention of the wielder determines the fate of a society.
Segregation is a slippery slope, regardless of intent. Prior to instituting this systemic change, policy must be set in place in order to firmly communicate the intentions of this project.
As this program directly targets student issues that are African-American specific, certainly it's a positive step. The program should be keenly observed over time, and mirrored elsewhere if applicable. However, what about caucasian, Asian-American, or Latino kids with similar academic or interpersonal skills shortcomings?
I believe when black
children see their
own people in control, it is inspiring and uplifting.
Segregation is over. Let it stay that way. There is no need for racism and there never was. We are all equal and you should not segregate yourself. Do not put yourself in that position if you do not want to be discriminated against. They are asking for it. African American students can be just as successful as any other race if they work hard enough for it without being segregated.
This is an unusual one. What do the students think about it. At first I thought, well, these people are choosing to be segregated, not much of an issue. But, then I thought. If these black home rooms start getting special treatment, or getting more of something, then they are segregating other races, kind of like what we did do them, so this is racism. But if all the races are gennerally ok with it, then I guess its ok. But, we need to really stress diversity from an early age these days.
A perfect picture of reverse racism. Obviously its O.K. and acceptable somewhere if this is a topic. This world is full of it yet the racism card keeps getting thrown in caucasian's faces. At least if your one of the people that uses it make sure situations like this done happen so you look like a hypocrite! What would happen if Caucasians had a WET T.V. station(aka White Entertainment Television, similar to the BET Black Entertainment Television)? Bet that would make all headlines for being racist. Enough is enough. Since we are all equal we all deserve the same teachings in the same rooms. This is racism towards white people and an insult to this great country!
As an African-American educator, I agree with it completely. The state of our Black students need this kind of mentoring. I applaud it, but it should be handled with care.
This is a racism to the fullest meaning. If an ALL-WHITE HOMEROOM mentorship program was started at any school in the united states if would be racism and people involved in the creation of that program would be fired.
If this were done for all white kids, can you imagine the firestorm from the black community and phony leaders? Reverse "black" discrimination is alive and well.
By doing this, teachers are making the African American students believe that they will automatically be less successful than other races.
People are already missing the point. Everyone is always so quick to yell "racism" that they do not stop to look at the entire issue. The deeper issue, as I see it, is that the school is acknowledging that their black students are not having their needs met. No one argues when someone says that students need positive examples to follow. This is another one of those instances. I have worked in high schools long enough to know that there is a major gap between black and white students and black students, all students, need examples that they can identify with and follow their example. As a country, we look back on Brown Vs. Board and think that it made everything ok, but no one wants to admit that it left a lot of people unprepared and education has not yet caught up. I think it is a good thing and I am glad someone has finally tried to do something about it. They did not say they are telling students they are better than anyone students, they are taking 6 minutes to truly listen to the students needs. What harm is there in that?
The problem I see with this is logistically making such services available to all racial groups of children. In order to make it equal we would need to separate Native Americans, Latino, Asian, Caucasian etc. And what would be done for those who are so mixed they no longer belong in one group? There are plenty of children who are of significantly mixed race, so where would we put them? I know that this was done with good intentions in mind, but I wonder if it really is where our schools need to be concentrating their efforts. The importance here I see when teaching our children... is what can be done to best teach our children in preparation for the world economy of today and tomorrow. I fail to see the strengths in mentoring our kids for such a short period of time and in separate racial groups. It's an interesting idea, but a delicate situation. Perhaps we can take the core of the idea and apply it differently so that we can maximize effect while working to build the bond between the kids tighter, rather than dividing them. The strength of our country is our ability to set our minds to something and work together in order to achieve that goal. The key here is together.
This is actually good. Results can be seen by the METCO program in Boston. Once the black kids were able meet together, a failing program became a model of success. While I agree segregation is a slippery slope, black youth need a chance share their experiences as a minority in the school. Check the book "Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria". An excellent read that clearly explains why this is good.
It's not about race; it's about connection. The color of the mentor doesn't matter, what does is the connection. There are many African American educators who can't relate to youth. The investment needs to be made in developing the systems and supports that connect kids to positive caring adults and the system they work in. I developed the term Youth Cultural Competence years ago to improve this connection. We have seen great success but limited investment by schools and programs. We simply have too many 8-Track schools in a MP3 world.
Do what it takes to get these kids to college. If this somehow keeps 1 person from dropping out, then it was worth it.
Well, Nefra, your idea also paints an unreal environment for those black students. As desired by Martin Luther King, we all should learn to live together and if you continue to separate them in an unreal situation, you have defeated Dr King's purposes. Blacks need to rise up and realize that the world does not bow to them and they need to become a part of it in real time. As long as you separate the races, they will never come together.
Look at all of the comments that agree with the idea that this is a good idea... then replace black with white. You would sound like a racist. If kids are having problems in school, black, white, hispanic, or any other race, they should be afforded the same opportunity. Does this school have a home room designated soley for white kids, male or female, that have problems? And if they do, can they label it that way... For whites only... se what I'm saying.
The real issue is that black youth aren't identifying with what is being taught. Schools need to focus more on positive black history and include more teaching of positive black role models. Then black kids won't need to be separated because they will identify with what is being taught and take an interest in it. That should be a federally mandated educational requirement. They need to get beyond slavery and the black rights struggle. They need to talk about African history. Letting black kids know that their people had kings and queens and power at one time as well.
I read the full article from the Lancaster newspaper. I really feel they ought to do this for all the students, not just a select few. Talk to them about careers and how to conduct themselves. It would be like the Sidney Poitier movie " To Sir With Love" We could turn this whole younger generation around if we could have mentors for all students. A lot of our students fall through the cracks. Whether they are black, white or Hispanic or any other nationality.
I appraise the school for trying to find a way to help their children, however if we had a homeroom that was all white this would be considered racist, and the NAACP would be involved. Segregation is segregation no matter how you do it. All children should be educated equally, black history should not just be taught to African American children but all children. Maybe if there were more education to all races there would be less misunderstanding of the culture. I see this as a step backward not forward.
what if you are bi-racial which classroom do you go to?
see we should have never intergrated to begin with
I have to say I'm not liking this idea very much. If students and teachers who are black want to this, alright, but it should be an optional thing for every individual.
African Americans shouldn't have any thing negatve to say about this!!!...We always talk about our children needing more Black Teachers and Mentors!....I just wish it was for 30 mnutes instead of 6. Albert
Too many people are quick to label this as racist. If the intention is to help black children be successful- that is not racism, which attempts to suppress a group. it is a worthwhile approach to research and see whether there are positive results. So glad we are moving beyond being politically correct to explore what actually helps our kids succeed.
As an African American lawyer and parent I deplore any type of racial separation especially racial segregation in education. Unfortunately, de facto segregation is education is still a reality in the UNited States, and in urban America in particular.
Deliberate government sanctioned racial segregation in schools can not be condoned, regardless of the intentions. Supplemental classes, programs and mentoring should be based on need and not race per se.
It is about time that we stop couching solutions in racial terms. Instead we should focus on need. Should we fail to to this we will neve bridge the racial divide!
We all have to remember that the students are mixed with all students for the entire day. For 26 minutes total they have an opportunity to reflect on who they are and their personal goals. Upon first hearing it it does raise a lot of concerns. Yet after to seeing how it structured it seems beneficial. I wonder what the conversations are for the other groups not involved in this process? Are they receiving supplemental assistance as well. Or do they feel slighted? That's what the school officials will have to manage. All groups need assistance in some way, yet some more than others. This school is trying to meet the students where they are and help set a foundation for better performance. Yet they must remember not to leave the other student behind in the process.
Great Job to this school for putting their Plan in Action!!!
Wonder what Obama would say. I bet he wouldnt touch it with a 100 foot pole.
All children deserve the best that we educators can provide to the whole child, regardless of race or potential. Despite their honorable intentions, the segregation reflects more the shortcomings of the educators/curriculum in the building than they would probably like.
Class size, strong and qualified teaching, parental involvement, and structure in the school day play a great role in student achievement. More time than was given in the sessions would be needed to help the children of all races who need assistance. Are the special needs children even considered? Thank you for shedding light on this archaic academic turn.
Look at the average classroom, especially in high school. It does not need a classroom designated for "white" students. The vast majority of educators, admin and students are white. The issue isn't seperating them by color, but for meeting their needs. We can all say we are the same and have the same needs, but it simply is not true. There doesn't need to be a sign that says, "for whites only" take a good look around. Lots of society is still like that. This is not to say that it is a problem, but there are needs of others that are not being met.
There will always be more than one way to resolve a problem. As the previous writer spoke of not using racist as the identifier. Many students learner better when they are with those that look like them and may understand them better. There is a possibility that they might miss that opportunity to explore more options by not addressing these issues in a more diverse way. Say they were in a pool and paired with someone of another nationality. They could explore options together, began dialogue, and push each other to succeed. The school would still be able to discuss the statistics and impress upon all the students not to become apart of that under performing group.
In my option just using the word segregation throws up a red flag for me even if for a short period of time during the day. I am an African American male, if this was even attempted by a white teacher / school there would be outrage against the school from all black leaders for allowing this project to take place in an institution which is funded with federal funds. While the teachers intent to help show positive African American role models, the process being used is very questionable especially since it’s not an option available to all students. If the program is open to all students, regardless of their race it would be view more positively. I agree with some of the other comments, this is a Major step backward. Why can’t we use this for a Black history class project?
Candice wrote above, "Maybe if there were more education to all races there would be less misunderstanding of the culture. I see this as a step backward not forward."
Candice I don't agree with it being backwards. I say at least they are making an effort to do something. Rather than just talking. But my main point of responding to your comment was....We have to get the information that is actually put in our school books to be right first.... I'm sure everyone heard about all the mistakes and misinformation... the students are being taught in the classroom...
Are there All-White Homerooms?
As a white mother of four white children and two black children (adopted from Ethiopia) I can see little good in doing this type of separation. Our skin color doesn't determine who we are or who we become- our character does.
I agree that this does not look good from the outside. But it is needed. Being African American I understand that we as a whole have some serious issues that only we can solve. Protesting for rights that we deserve is one thing. Living up to what has been fought for is another. These teachers are trying to help them understand the importance of having "Complete" college educated families that can give a since of pride and heritage. The same that any other culture would have. Our children need to understand that so they can pass it to their children and being successful and offering something to the rest of the world will be what is expected of them.
Wow, there's 18 layers to this. The idea was 2 help the kids 2 do better on standardized tests right? So why not seperate by bad test scores? Where is the all latino home room? Or the (how dare I!) All white classroom. Where r the parents to help their kids study in order 2 do better on the standardized tests? Why aren't they held accountable for their kids not doing well in school? Is this a skin color issue or is it an issue about culture? Hell, if it works, go for it, just make sure no white kid is left behind.
OH, so NOW it's ok to be seperated?
Why is color party of this equation ,this is nothing more than treading water .
I think this whole situation is completely jacked. How in the hell can you say that this is OK to segregate a class room to only Black students. If a white person got this idea to segregate class rooms for only white people the streets would be filled with rage, people would be calling it racism and so forth. It seems today that everyone is trying to fit in with their own race. We live in America for Pete sakes. If we're the land of the free and equal than why cant a home room have all races in it. Why are we sending Blacks one way and Whites the others when in all reality we all live together as one.
As a black Physical Science Teacher, 12 years experienced, also 15 years of engineering exp; 8 years of international sales exp; also a licenced aircraft mechanic(now sitting at home drawing unemployment), Ali, our system is messed up. Black professionals are a threat to some groups, of which you know. I live in Minnesota and the gap between black kids and caucasians in Minnesota is the largest in the nation.Some of us who have a solution have been negated. Just do a survey of how many black teachers in the classroom. Ali, it is all talk. I have been living here for 38 years. We need an open diologue about this. I have graduated black kids in Minneapolis here that nobody ever thouhgt it could happen. By the way I am a boys soccer coach too(28 years exp.).
ALL BLACK homerooms? Does this mean there will be ALL WHITE homerooms? This is not a good idea.......
Im a white male and I believe America being so diverse is what makes this country great. I have many black friends, however I dont agree with this idea. All my life I cant really say I have seen some racism, all black people I have known have never talked about being fired, treated unfairly etc in their lifes (not saying it doesnt happen still) it is a new day and age which in federal/govt/state/local jobs and careers wont show prejudice to people if they are diffrent race, nationality- and if is done there will be major consequences. However what bothers me is if this was a white teacher, there would be a major outcry and I truly believe that teacher would be called racist, and would be fired.. the only racism that is strong enough to still lose people of jobs or to not get hired for a career is white people if there isnt enough black people that got hired its called "racist" and people dont get the job because there white, that to me is wrong and is racism
I commend these educators and students for their courage to try something different. I suggest we give them a chance to demonstrate results before we critique the idea. As an engineer & scientist I volunteer extensively across America w a focus on HBCU's and schools in the Black Belt of the south. Students need vision and role models; educators & schools need freedom to make responsibly great contributions w/o knee-jerk micro-management by all of us from a distance. Kids & teachers are awesome!
I do not agree with this policy, I am a substitute teacher and I have children in the public school system. In my opinion, it makes a huge difference in the racial, economic, and size of the classroom and school composition. This begs the question of revisiting the issue of segregation, as a whole. I am also a Realtor, and I see this over and over, many white Americans, especially in the South will abandon a neighborhood, if too many other races move in. White Americans will move further out to create "all white" neighborhoods and "all white schools", it really is a form of segregation and socioeconomic fixing, if you will. As stated before, I have substituted at many different schools in my county, and the "all white or majority white" schools have less classroom misbehavior, more qualified teachers and better schools buildings, playground areas, cleaner restrooms. Eventhough, all tax monies are supposed to be equally proportioned to all county schools. So, I do not think it is a good idea to have further studies done in separating races, and I believe that this is causing a greater disparity in testing scores among minorities.
As a father of 5... and Football & Basketball Coach for over 15 years I'm given the task of uniting boys & girls of every ehtnic and cultural background in a common goal, and know first hand that ANY separatist activity or thinking will clearly undermine even the most well intentioned endeavor! PLEASE DON'T let these obviously well intentioned and narrow-sighted educators ruin our great democracy by throwing us back into our worst era!!!
I think the media should try to avoid framing a mentoring program into a segregation situation. We need to come together and ultimately we are all the same and we all can reach our unlimited potential as expressed at http://ThinkRich.ws for all our students and adults.
And which homeroom shall my child go to? He is 1/2 black and 1/2 white. I am 100% against this. A person is a person.
how can division promote equality? if you divide the students into racial-homerooms, it will cause more tension and a perception of un-equality within the races and the teachers.
A noble venture, but so many problems... What to do with mixed race students? Do they get to choose which race they most identify with? Is this separation forcibly being done or voluntarily? What about at-risk students of other races? I applaud your attempt, but this is just not the right way to go about it.
PA school returning to "Separate but equal." It didn't help blacks back then & won't help them now – Using ethnicity to segregate is wrong!
After having fought the separate but equal racist teaching system in Federal Court, why would anyone justify going back to it?
As we face the challenges of the future, we must pay attention to the need for students to achive excellence, not just to keep up. In this spirit, every student, even the most successful, would benefit from such direct personal attention.
If a predominantly white school did this with struggling students, there would be a public uproar followed by firings. It's impossible to extinguish the ignorant racist groups that exist in this country, but when it comes to education, how could something like this be allowed? Mentors should be linked to proteges by common goals, interests, abilities, and/or motivation. Not by race. We have the ability for all races to recognize an individual race respectfully without being demeaning or segregated. By having racially motivated 'homerooms', we take a step backward in a time where moving forward is at our fingertips, through our children. They are the key to the future, as humans. If this is idea continues, what will be next? Blue eyed homerooms? Brown eyed homerooms? Christian/Jewish homerooms? Get ready for the snowball effect.
This isn't just race separatio, it is also gender separation. I think the same program should be set up for all the students I also think that not all solutions need to be big major programs that would require a lot of funding. A few minutes a day can make a big difference..
OK, calm down everyone – you're taking this way out of context because of preconceived taboo-isms of "the black card".
As a gay man (and in my youth, the first among what would be many gay students), I would have found it VERY empowering to have had more support – like this – from my school district.
I found empowerment elsewhere – I was fortunate enough to make friends at Case Western, a local and high profile college. Gay friends I made there helped me cope, understand, mature and deal with the very taboos that others seem to use as an "OMG" in this topic.
I think this is a brilliant idea, and the teacher commended for striking the "birds of a feather" moment that a lot of us need.
It's not segregation – it's integration.
It is a well-intentioned misstep. If mentoring is what helps kids, why can't the program be held after school by an outside organization. A public school should have no hand in segregating kids. Where do they go if they're biracial? Where do they go if they're gay? We have to stop acting like everyone fits into a neat little category.
Instead of splitting kids by color why don`t you split them by gender then? It seems like a good idea to me. But thats just an option. But its better than splitting kids by race and color.
First- let me say that I don't agree with segregation anywhere for any reason, and any progress they think they are making by doing this is only being downgrated in the end result by the backslide and rift that it will create in a country that has struggled for far to long to put racism to an end.
Second- I would note that if a white teacher teaching in a low income area recommended segregating the white men and women for specialized training and attention, they would have been releived of their job for being a racist.......................................the comments that support this classroom change is the same group that would call for a white teachers resignation for suggesting such a thing............
I understand the theory behind this, but if someone had suggested that an all-white classroom would help caucasion students succeed, there would be an uproar. If something needs to change in the way we are teaching our black students, I refuse to believe that segregation is the answer. Do you want students to learn that whenever they have a problem they should just "group off" with other black individuals? This is crazy. We live in an integrated world. I had black/white/Indian/Polish/Asian teachers in school and didn't feel like they couldn't "identify" with me.
@Ben...please, "their people"? Black students born in America are Americans. They need to learn American history, not African history. I didn't break off into a special class taught by a German teacher to learn my German heritage. I can enjoy that culture without excluding my birth-nation and pretending I don't really live here.
Maybe I should not be but I am, I am outraged. I feel that this is a step backwards. We want to get past the past issues of racism but as a society we are teaching our children that racism is o.k. It is done every day even on T.V. and within our dailey lives.
Having pride in your ancestory is great but segregating our children does not teach them how to interact with others.
I am tired of BET and other networks and even political groups thinking that it is o.k. to segregate.
I am saddened to see that someone would think that seperating our children by race is the answer to helping them. I could spend a day writing what is wrong with our society when it comes to segregation and my woes with it however the only solution I have to it is this, get past color and resentment for others. Stop closing your mind and concentrate on what is important such as your education.
Don't blame race on your misfortunes only the fact that you hold yourself back and that is everyone of every race.
I may not be a teacher, or have any degree in that area, but I think that segregating the classes like that is unfair. How is it fair that the classrooms should be placed according to race, when there are equal amounts of 'white' children having the same problems, if not more? Anybody is more then welcome to correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't MLK have a dream about everyone coming together as one, no matter of race, gender, or education level? When I was in high school, if a group of students had a problem in any area of the education, they got that section together to study as one, not separating us based upon our race or gender.
I think that is a racist thing to do, this isn't the 60's anymore and who ever thought of it i think that person is a racist, students of all cultures should be together in the class room so we can learn of each others culture and mingle so we can get along with each other, some one racist trying to bring back segregation thats all that is, nothing but the devil in them.
If sseparating students by race and sex helps them to improve in school, do it!!! Segregation based on prejudices that a race is inferior and not equal is not acceptable. This separation is for a small amount of time to focus on a specific group of students needs to help them improve! They are not the same. This is separating students by need, not segregation.
No matter what anyone may think, the civil rights act of 1964 makes this illegal
As a 26 yo African American Student, I think that this intiative is a good thing, and many schools today are segregated and not for the purposes of uplifting struggling students. More so because they live in isolated communties that do not believe in diversity beyond using it in rhetoric. You have teachers who don't even believe black children can be educated! and yet they are sent in to "teach" those same kids who they believe NOTHING IN?? absolutely not! That is why Historically, predominately Black schools and colleges have and still produce the highest rates of qualified black graduates because they care and believe in their students, and push them to challenging heights in their education so they do succeed in a country that is still racially motivated, versus enrolling them for fulfilling status quo requirements which happens all too often in other instituitons where blacks are a minority. If you look back into history, Blacks wanted intergration because of the quality and lack thereof of resources given to "their" school. They were still producing more scholars, and intellects in segregated black schools despite NOT having resources...people thought intergration would bring equality & it is EASY TO SEE ...IT HAS NOT...Black children are knownigly being tossed to the side, which will leave them unable to compete in the global society. We need teachers who care, and programs that focus on changing this real fact!
It is a disgrace to see that all of the hard fought battles to get rid of segregation have been lost after all these years. This shows how this country is still divided. And always will be, I cant stand to think how anyone one looks at this and see's any positive to putting these kids through this. Raising them on the wrong standards if you ask me. Your teaching this generation that it is OK to only associate with your 'own kind'. This is why many schools and school districts today are very much segregated today. And not by law, but by choice cause that is what has been portrayed to this young generation.
I don't understand why people would assume this is a kick back to the way things were. Rather than stick our heads in the sand about the issue of a racial gap, we must confront that integrated schools have not solved the issue of educational equality. We simply have segregated educational results in integrated schools.
While it would be nice to address the larger societal issues that lead to this gap, I don't think it is wrong for a school to attempt to address student performance with such a program. If we waited for the issue to be addressed by larger social reform, we might never have a chance to do anything. Why should we neglect to do what we can, when we can?
What this program can do is provide positive black role models for black youth, Most white students get positive white role models consistently throughout their high school career. After all, the majority of high school teachers are white. A black student may go through an entire high school education without ever having encountered a person of their color educating them. Why should we get so upset about a program that only addresses this unfortunate truth?
If you are a white student, you never have to think about why there are no teachers who are like you. The very teacher population is an implicit endorsement of your belonging in such an environment. I applaud any school effort to help students recognize that they too are part of the wold of higher learning and achievement.
This race based "experiment" is not legitimate.
Although a well controlled scientific experiment can be constructed, I don't think these principal investigators or teachers are qualified to conduct,analyze and draw any relevant conclusions.
The sample size and lack of controls make any conclusions or inferences irrelevant to other Black populations and circumstances.
Unfortunately, this is more social posturing than anything else.
Ali: I have been reading all the comments above. It is both an english and african adage "charity begins at home" Please go and read the last comment from Bill Cosby. This is the first step to black students success in our society. I love to be part of this national dialogue.
For all reasons socio-economic, cultural, and addressing comfort levels, I like the idea, but I'm not sold on race-based mentoring during school hours. I believe the school is a great venue to conduct these sessions, but before or after school seems most appropriate. As a member of America's oldest African American Sorority, though not exclusive, I'm proud to be part of an organization that serves as a living example of how people who look like you and have similar experiences to you become trailblazers, set precedent, and become productive members of our society. Many Jews send their kids to Hebrew school, which is accepted nationwide. This idea of increased attention and mentoring is not new, but has to be leveraged properly and appropriately, and I believe it will be successful.
@RutgersNewarkK, "...what if you are biracial...?"
You have a great question. And what might it communicate to those children that ARE bi-racial?" I think some children would think, "I don't belong in any group – I don't fit in." It's like saying," You're not allowed to be bi-racial." Or are they supposed to spend 3 min. in each classroom? And is there a Hispanic and Asian classroom? I don't understand the details of this "program" but it doesn't sound good to me.
If a white teacher would have proposed this they would have Immediately WOULD HAVE BEEN BRANDED A RACIST.. bad Idea
I have an idea at least as dumm as yours. Take half the students, split evenly by race, to wear makeup and switch races for one year. blacks will now look white/hispanic/asian, and the whites will appear black/hispanic/asian etc. Listen, you need to understand that children are blank slates until they are programmed with information. Education begins with the parents. If the parents teach inferiority/superiority, hatred/love, confidence/fear then that's what is going to manifest in later life. Get to the root of the problem. An analogy of what you idiots are doing by segregating students is in cartoons shows when a swollen lump appears on the head of a character, another character takes a hammer and beats it back in, thereby "healing" it. It's plain foolishness.
All of this is being blown out of proportion… doesn’t it all just come down to what works for the children and that It’s positive. Think about it, “most children wouldn’t stay or can’t stay after school”, so for this form of learning to work it really make since for it to be a part of the students everyday learning. My daughter goes to The SEED School of Washington, DC it was looked down on at one point; But the school’s very structuralize learning has been a blessing to her. Everyone needs to stop reading too much into the separated learning because not every child learns in the same way. so as long as this way of teaching is helping these students let this teachers & School staff do their jobs in peace.
I think better teachers and more parental involvement are required here. Children will only perform as good as those involved in the teaching process. We should be meeting the needs of those that are falling behind rather than punishing or segregating an entire group for the shortcomings of a few. What message are we sending our children if we first, separate them and then preach to them to work together? What could possibly be done in 6 minutes to help these children? Why not start an after school club to address the concerns and mentor the children for more than 6 minutes?
if they cant learn like everbody else...what dose that tell you when they get out in society..so dont get mad about their not enough black jobs..if a black person can be president ...
What if they had made an all white classroom...what do u think would have happen then!
Reading peoples comments on here is very interesting. i see a lot of white people trying to throw reverse racism comments around, not to say there is no such thing. but i saw someone complaining about b.e.t. cuz it was a black network...really? your complaining because you feel someone would be offended if there was a white entertainment television... white people are the MAJORITY in this country just cuz its not labeled white television doesnt mean its not plus b.e.t. is a way the MAJORITY can observe black folk on television from a distance lol even if it plays into stereotypes that most these entertainers perpetuate because they wouldnt get paid if they acted anyway different
In addition to my comment earlier, the teachers at this school are cowards, because they are imposing their ideas over students who don't have a strong independent voice instead of confronting the parents who are the source of the most important education a child will ever receive. The parents must be empowered and willing to teach their children AT HOME how to function successfully with people of other races. What are you going to do when the nation has to fight its wars? Segregate? We the people, declare, that this rogue renegade school system is committing treason against the United States by segregating students and should be criminally prosecuted for violating the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
This is ridiculous! "What if the tables were turned, and a white teacher suggested this with all white students/teachers!?! My skin happens to be white but, correct me if I am wrong??? ...We are all the same COLOR inside! What are 'they' teaching our children!?! I don't know about you... ...but, I am getting sick and tired of racial issues! Especially with the way Black Americans TALK TO EACH OTHER!!! It's about time we ALL have more RESPECT! My Son is bi-race, and I couldn't be more PROUD!" "Don't people understand how lucky this world is...to be able to experience so many cultures, in one small world?" "I can only HOPE for my Son's generation...to get this right! PEACE, David Morris
I had a great conversation with a guy about this, and he brought up a great point... Obviously this isn't a question of segragation... it's a question of bringing segragation into the pubic view. When they do there polls of white kids vs black kids, they are already segragating them. Shouldn't these test be used to identify "kids" that are having problems... not what race they are. And I truely agree with a comment made earlier. It is an african american lady that is leading the way for this segragation. If it would have been a white male teacher with the same credibility that suggest that all the black students with low test scores should be put into a class room... with a black teacher "as a role model", then I have not doubt there would be some serious problems with it.
I am alumni and a graduate of McCaskey HS and can tell you the school is a microcosm of America in relation to diversity. I think the responsibility should be placed on the school board by providing opportunities for a diverse faculty that is trained on the specific needs of the student body as a whole. I believe this current approach is a regression back to pre-Brown vs Board of Education.
It appears to be a "cop-out". The school/teachers are unable to reach the students as a group of like-age individuals so has declared that the black students are different so require a different format for them to succeed in school.. When my mother entered school she did not speak English, it was her second language. Ninety per cent of my classmates started primary school having to learn English as a "second" language. No special circumstances were provided for them to succeed. My mother taught for many years then received her Masters in Library Science and became a Librarian. My classmates became Phd's, teachers, school and hospital administrators, engineers, all without special treatment for their race or language hurdles. A "cop-out".
I keep seeing people say that this is a majority white population over and over, and I will grant you that in remote areas of places like wisconson, idaho, ohio, etc. that might be true, but that is only because there are fewer people living in those areas. go to new york city, chicago, detroit, washington dc, atlanta georgia, columbus georgia, phenix city alabama, las angeles california, just to mention a few, and I can assure you if they had an accurate count you would find that the whites are the minority numbers in those areas........and in the schools.......so maybe the answer all the way around is take the race card out of everything..... take it out of the schools, make all children responsible for putting out equal effort to learn the required courses to complete school, and hold their parents accountable for their part in the training of their children as they are growing, take it out of all job applications, all social service request applications, and any govt. applications or forms.. until we stop asking the question – Are you white, black, hispanic, asian, or other , we will never be able to abolish racism...... We should not be ranting pride because we have a black president,..... We should be able to rant pride in our president because of the job he is or isnt doing.... I find everything that he does being clouded by the comment Our first black president ????? If Obama really wants to do something to further benefit this nation as one he should institute into law that it become illegal to ask in any application or form the question of race, either in school or in the work force.......There is a challenge for you Mr. Obama, Do you want to be remembered only as (oh – he was the first black president) or do you want to be remembered as the president who changed and bettered a nation to bring them together as one.....If it were me as a female I would rather be remembered for the furthering to bind a nation as one, then oh she was the first female president....My race is nothing, I was raised an american. isnt that all that should matter. before we can change our children we must change ourselves...
As a parent of an African-American student, at present YES, I do agree with the homeroom for our kids... until certain school staff engage in the proper cultural sensitivity training that is necessary to understand and communicate and engage our brown, black and yellow children. Yes, our children do require specific handling.. No, it is not reverting back to segregation, perhaps we should view this as a 'special needs' situation. we constantly hear about the 'achievement gap'... there has been much data tossed around... sometimes the most obvious solution is right in front of our face... so dont get upset when individuals come up with real solutions to real problems. Yes, America, we do require special handling at times.
There isn't any teachable person on the face of this earth who couldn't benefit from learning about Martin Luther King, or other elements of strength and beauty and human triumph in black history in America. So, why not teach these things, to all the students. Then, let the succeeding students and the students who need support pair up according to THEIR OWN CHOICE, diversely. There is no reason a strong black mentor could not benefit a struggling younger white (or hispanic or purple) student, or vice verse and every which way. I think mixing it up everyone will benefit, most certainly the mentors included, as we learn so much more about each other's different experiences, what works, what hurts, and what we can laugh about together. It's a human thing.
Aren't these students then being denied their own rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Instead of being told by society that because of the color of their skin their life has been predetermined, these teachers are taking their role as educators and going above and beyond to ensure success. The fact that people are considering this treason is absolutely absurd and you should be ashamed. While you go and relax and watch Blu-rays on your big screen televisions these kids are working at minimum wage to keep their family afloat. While you complain about your boss at work not giving you a raise these kids are home being parents to their younger siblings because mom and dad aren't around. Don't you dare turn down any attempt at giving these young adults a future. To be told numerous times by society that they will not amount to anything and to be looked at differently meerly because of the color of ones skin is the definition of UnAmerican, not this mumbo jumbo you're saying about this program. The teachers care about the students and in doing so the students are starting to care and doing anything possible to make sure that they break free from the bonds you Americans impose on them. Live a day in their shoes and I'm pretty sure you would look at these differenty.
have you idiots ever cracked open a history book in your life? There's no way, because you would know that our nation fought a civil war, the bloodiest in the history of mankind because of one reason ... the nation was divided. Racial division is only one of many possible factors that could lead us to a second civil war, economic philosophies, religion, sexual preference being others. I promise you, the next civil war will be 100 times bloodier than the last one. You idiots have no clue what you are asking for when you are "choosing" segregation. But, when the land is covered in blood from the next civil war, you'll wish you had read that history book, you better believe that.
As a person who attended public schools for the majority of my education, I find it completely inappropriate for segregation to be taking place. There are people in today's society that have high school diplomas yet are unable to read at a 6th grade level; therefore, I believe regardless of race, gender, or any other difference in our lives, children should not be seperated... they should be united in a cause to better themselves for the future of mankind.
I made a comment earlier but I couldn't help but to revisit. Comments were made "if it helps do it". I can't help but think that ignorance is really a bliss. The thought of seperation in schools is just WRONG. The damage has already begun. This message is saying that you students can improve only because you are seperated. It's saying that your only success is through segregation. It's saying that you can choose to seperate yourself from the rest of the world.
Seriously EDUCATORS, get a grip. Millions of people died thinking this way. A group was formed and had an entire country thinking that they were superior. If we start this trend it can lead us back down a very dark and dreary road of self destruction and hate.
Please do not continue with this madness in our schools. We must teach our kids that unity, self discipline, and respect are far greater values. Mentoring should not only come from your own race we can't learn and grow as a people without accepting differences of other races as well as religion or beliefs. I'm shocked that this is once again back in the classroom.
After reading the comments on this page, I would like to clarify the fact that not ALL of the black students of JP McCaskey are underachievers or lacking positive role models, in their lives. I am the proud parent of an 11th grade African American young lady who belongs to the Honors Small Learning Community, at this very same High School. She has worked hard as a student, and so have I, as a parent, in order to produce the grades and moral integrity that has afforded her a success both inside and outside of the classroom. It is not fair to my child, for the School District of Lancaster to so flippantly expose the JP McCaskey name, the school she will graduate from and will be on her college applications, to such scrutiny without considering ALL THE STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE BLACK ONES GRADUATING FROM THIS CLASS!!!!!!!!!! I am extremely disappointed, once again, in the School District. I hope that someday they will begin to truly put the needs of their students ABOVE whatever they think will benefit the "District". There is very little diversity in the Teaching Staff of the SDoL, maybe we should look their for the beginnings of the issue!!!! Let's put the focus where it belongs, on the administration, instead of on the KIDS. Then, maybe we wouldn't be scrounging for things like an All-Black Homeroom.
Ummm.....I have one question: what about the halfy's like me? One person of two different races???
Dear Mr Setting The record Straight, Hope one day I can shake your hand! You said it. It does start @ home.My blog would have posted before yours.But CNN pulled my freedom of speech right.I don't think I was being too harsh on this so called teacher or the school board or the NAACP who as yet made no comment on the irrational decision by a few.I grew up with Bussing when schools had to be more evenly segregated.Where are their priorities here? Want Roll models? Why? Without disapline in class, and thats not a race issue that is for anyone taking the valuable time from what needs to be taught ."Mentors / Roll Models" by segregation? I wonder who would touch that one. School like our Jobs is what we make of it. Like I told my children it's the A's and B's that'll be your bread and butter in life. Don't be like others. School work first then if theres time go play ball or sit on the phone for three hours. USE HOMEROOM to finish that last question, prepare for your first class. Use study halls to complete homework so you don't have to later. Schooling through the 60"s and 70"s I witnessed this and I don't think this is a path we want or need to go down again! What a Huge set back. And let this young teacher who started this get a dress code started, White/Black it don't matter pull up your pants, tuck in the shirts. Learn them self respect. Thanks again Sir. Blond and blue eyes in NC.
Not a model that should be spread to all schools. I think it would have been better suited to be an elective of choice vice a mandatory period like homeroom.
I liked the comment that Black men graduate college with bachelors degrees far less that females. There are plenty of black male professionals and graduates in most communities. We are busy, come shake our tree's and schools ask for some help from us on mentor-ship. We may have time to do mentor-ship but not the time to research how.
As a graduate of McCaskey HS and a current educator at a very diverse school (racial, economic, and gender) I find the idea of segregating by race and gender unconscionable.
I believe that sending the message to learners that people cannot form connections outside of their race/gender is much more harmful than any 'good' that may come from the specific mentorship. That message will negatively impact the learning of students in most of their classes and the lens through which they view the world for the rest of their lives.
Leave it to adults to screw up kids. Segregation doesn't help anyone. Here is a novel idea, find ways for ALL KIDS to excel together.
While I can see the logic behind this decision, there is some rather fatal flaws in this design.
The problem lies in that we all believe we have to take care of our own. Caucasian's look after caucasian's, black look after black, hispanic look after hispanic, and so on. The common unity of looking after one another, regardless one of ethnicity or culture is often cast aside by the dominant's culture viewpoint of handling your own by strapping your own boots. Hence, why you have black people believing they have to take care of their own problems, because it's established by a more group orientated outlook. But the problem is that it shouldn't be "black people's" problem. It should be American problems. Issues that happens within the urban community shouldn't be urban community problems, but american problems. If everyone was united over fixing the issues that affects all of us, instead of just dealing with oneself or one own environment, we wouldn't be having this situation. But seeing as our culture values individuality, self success and freedom over
unity, empathy, and the caring of others, we have the current situation we have now.
WIth that said, another major problem is not only the issue that the person doing the individual described, but a lack of diversity more often than not prevents individual from handling well in a diverse environment. For example, this situation cannot happen legally in the job field, so if you require to only be around your own ethnicity to succeed, you will be screwed in your career.
....i go to J.P.M .... i don't think this school needs anymore attention then its already gotten this year...
Where do you place biracial students who are half black and half white? Can a black student opt out of the black homeroom placement? Can non-black students opt in?
I agree they may need to take a different approach but why single out a race? I would expect more from our educators to understand making comments/decisions that would target a particular race is wrong even if it is for 6 minutes each day. We are all GOD’s children. Why not pair the students that score well on those test with those that are having problems? Also why wouldn’t you get the parents involved? Educations starts at home and it continues at school. I am not promoting that you need to fix everyone’s home life but you can’t ignore it either. I find it hard to believe that all black students in that school are performing poorly on those standardized test. Promoting segregation to boost grades send a variety of negative messages. One message is the teaches have no idea how to educate their students. If the principal (aka Manager) of the school can not manage the teachers to educate the children then I think it is time to get a new principal. If the Teachers can’t educate their students then you need to evaluate them and determine if they are have the correct skills / approach toward teaching. There is no blame game when comes to teaching our children. We have to get the job done because the children are our future regardless of the color of their skin.
I have read all of these posts and some have very valid points. but most all agree that this is bad
I have children in the area that is being spoke about. The fact that children are SUPPOSED to be taught the right way and be respectful just flew out the window. I suppose that my mixed grandaughter should be put with a homeroom that has mixed students and the students with handicaps should be separated by the disability in order to keep things on the path chosen by the outline above.
my children are taught to be respectful as well as being obediant and have manners regardless of who the peer is. The color of skin DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING except what we make it mean. I mean seriously havent we all had enough as it is.
I thought desegragation was suppose to fix everything. this is ridiculous.
I think its time for change in Egypt , Mubarak has been in power nearly for thirty years, this is the time he should just step down and give up, because a government is for the people and protect them but if nobody is willing to have you as a president there is no need to be stay in power because Mubarak is only individual and there are more voices out there and people that are getting killed on the streets just because they don't want him him power.
Tailor mentoring programs for all kids who are not achieving to ability or expectation. You can still pay particular attention to the realities of black communities and their challenges, and the subsequent impacts of the performance of black children in the academic environment. You can still provide positive black role models for black kids. They may comprise a large population of poor academic performers in this school system and others, but that doesn't mean we separate by race. It means we separate by achievement or lack thereof. If we note black kids make up a large component of the kids who need help, then fine, give unique and special assistance that is tailored to their unique needs. Educate white teachers and mentors on how it is a reality that black students may have unique needs and challenges, and how to address these. You can tailor programs to kids with needs without an overt exercise in segregation. Even if we as adults can say, oh that's not what it is, what do you think will be the perception of impressionable young minds? At 42, I'd rather have a nonjudgmental friend than a successful one.
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