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February 7th, 2011
12:52 PM ET

Denying Citizenship to Kids Born in USA

What do you think about the proposed Arizona law to deny citizenship to kids born in the US if their parents are illegal immigrants?

Click here to read up on the legislation.  There is a Senate hearing today.  Leave your comments below.

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  1. maria

    it has always been that law, because people from all over the world come to U S just to give birth and become citizens the easy way.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  2. Nick

    I think this is a horrible message to send to our youth! We are a tolerant nation, we should remain so. The diversity of our nation is critical to our progress in the future, and that means the young people as well. How can we mature into the nation the United States was meant to be with this attitude? Our grandparents would be ashamed of this!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  3. Joe Ebbers

    I think the Arizona proposal should be approved. If the parents are illegally in this country and are not citizens then their children should not be considered citizens of the US.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
  4. greg

    the 14th was for CHILDREN OF SLAVES...CNN need to read the entire ammendment...which "excludes foreigners and aliens"

    February 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  5. Lisa

    It is interesting how some of these people are so pro constitution unless it doesn't suit their purposes. Then it is OK to go against it. You can't have it both ways.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  6. Mark

    I think the Arizona law won't sustain against the US Constitution BUT I wish it would. . .maybe an amendment to the US Constitution.... Personally, I think it's absurd that someone can come to this country illegally and then propogate a legal citizen. That's not consistent with business law where the yield of illegal activity is considered contraband I think.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  7. Leslie

    I find this law to be out of place and not the right thing to do. A born citizen should not be subject of this because of their parents. I believe that as a citizen of Arizona we have more important things than this for example the economy.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  8. Floyd

    The notion that a child born in America is an American is a well established and working principle. Why would one change it? Either racism or ignorance. Such a change would fundamentally change what it is to be an American. This is simply not acceptable. It is a conservative constitutional principle that one born in the US is a US citizen!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  9. Mike

    I think Arizona if full of racist people that are willing to do anything to get rid of and prevent any further Hispanic ethnicity's in the state of Arizona.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  10. Sandra Knight

    Most countries would not grant automatic citizenship to babies born in their countries. Why should we? Even Mexico doesn't allow that! If we stop the practice of "anchor" babies, perhaps we will eliminate at least some of the illegals in this country.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  11. Tom

    By supporting the 14th amendment and saying children born in the USA to ILLEGAL ALIEN parents, then by that same thought process a bank robber gets to keep the money he/she stole.
    Doesn't make a lot of sense does it ??? Only to CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC news readers and exeuctives. To us common people it just takes away more of OUR rights and eats up Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security....

    February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  12. Erik Bentley

    It's about time a state took action. the 14th amendment was created to give slaves in the United States citizenship, it was not created for the purpose of backdoor immigration amenisty. When people come here to have babies just so they can become US citizens this is just wrong. If this Arizona law becomes unconstitutional then we as american citizens need to oush for legislation that foriegn women that are pregant should not be able to travel into the US and if they do so illegally it should be a class 3 felony.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
  13. Shirley Thompson

    I am all for Arizona and Oklahoma laws. I am also for deporting all illegals. There is a legal way to enter this country. If I break a law in this country I pay a price, why aren't all the illegals being deported which is a law.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
  14. macholara

    Regardless of where each of us stand on the issue, none can deny what the 14th amendment says.

    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    Seems to me that whatever happens, the Supreme Court will more-than-likely uphold what the law says.

    Not doing so will, I believe, open up a whole world of proposed law changes; all of which would undermine and/or alter the present laws. I'm not sure that's what the Supreme Court wants to set as a precedent.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
  15. Suzann Settle

    Not only is the proposed legislation unconstitutional, it is ridiculous and mean. Just about as stupid as the law that some Georgia legislators are considering that will make it illegal for undocumented Georgia high school graduates to attend a Georgia public college or university.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  16. Jack

    No Way! These Kids should not be rewarded for their parents breaking the law and the Parents should be deported Immediately !!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  17. Carl Osborne

    Then none of use are citizens.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  18. Paul Dombrowski

    This is not a Constitutional Issue, because Amendment 14, Section 1, Clause 1 of the constitution is clear and unambiguous: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." In truth, this IS a Law Enforcement issue, because AZ GOPS are trying to deny the basic rights of Full, Legal American Citizens and their families. It's also child abuse, because the victims of this illegal oppression in Arizona are most often defenseless kids. Arrest the Arizona GOP.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  19. Michele Schultz

    Good for Arizona!!!!!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  20. Riley

    I think Arizona is to thoughtful legislation what Fox News is to TV journalism: Over the top knee-jerk reactionism.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  21. Mary

    The children of illegals should not be given citizenship. When will we all understand that the United States cannot take care of the whole world. Let their parents take them back to their own country and fix their own problems. We have enough problems of our own to solve.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  22. Chablis Applewhite

    It is unconstitutional and goes against the 14th amendment, that states "All persons born in the United States, are citizens of the United States" PERIOD

    February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  23. Debra Brown

    Personally, I think that imagrations laws do need to change. If you born here you are born here. I plead the 14.

    Yet, I believe the conversation shouldn't be about the imagrants born here. The conversation should be about imagrant students who can't find jobs. Therefore, resulting in Imagrant students working illigally. More oppertunities should be presented to imagrant students.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  24. Rey Alfredo

    If Arizona feels so strongly about trying to supersede the US constitution, what will be the next position this radical state will chose to go after? Why not just secede just as South Carolina did in late 1860, and see how they would run a deficit ridden state, create its own constitution, try to deal with transportation funding cut offs, lose a base on which it relies on. When they have chastised all immigrants of all backgrounds, will they see first hand that to build a nation of any size, you NEED immigrants.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  25. gloria martinez

    I think the American people should be able to vote whether Arizona should remain part of these United States....the people who are in power there and the people who have voted them into power should be the ones that no longer should be citizens of these united states....since they cannot seem to follow any of our laws or the constitution where all of us have been born equal and are citizens if we are born here. I am 4th generation Californian and my great grandchild is the 7th generation...can that governor and it's congress claim the same?

    February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  26. Kathleen Donnafield

    I regard babies born in the U.S. to be children of illegals. No special rights (as provided with the original AMENDANT) and should remain with the parent until the age of emancipation. The burden placed on America is greater now than ever, with illegal immigration, not having been addressed and reformed, much earlier.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  27. Harry

    I firmly believe that when the constitution was written it made sense to allow persons born in this country should be allowed citizenship to help the growth of the US. Today, that same reasoning is not valid, and the law should be invalidated by Constitution amendment., as we do not need outside growth.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  28. Jim Johnson

    Good idea. Lets see if Harry Reid and Obama stops the Arizona plan

    February 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  29. Rick

    Illegal aliens have broken our laws and entered our contry illegally and put millions of Americans out of work. Every illegal alien couple has spewed out 3-5 anchor children in hopews of keeping from being deported. They are criminals and should be punished not rewarded. LA-RAZA the illegal alien support group encourages them to produce as many babies as possible in hopes of becoming a majority and taking over America in 50 yeARS. Deport aD IT WILL WEND SCHOOL AND PRISON OVERCROWDING AND AMERICAN CHILDREN WILL ONCE AGAIN GET A GOOD EDUCATION

    February 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  30. Rick Aquila

    Not only should the children of illegals be denied citizenship, but aliens of all status that cross the border to have their children in the US with the sole intent of obtaining citizenship should be denied. If they live in the US legally, then no problem. Everyone else forget it!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  31. David Wise from Plant City Florida

    I think it will be one of the shortest lived laws in history, It is so unbelievably unconstitutional that it stuns me. Why Arizona is even bothering is beyond me, maybe they should spend their time doing something that will benefit the state as opposed to grandstanding with these laws.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  32. Elizabeth Ramirez

    If we start sawing the limbs off the Constitution, I think we need to hack off the one about giving all citizens the right to own and arm themselves to the teeth with their guns and automatic weapons. Guns and weapons scare me a lot more than newborn infants. I think a lot of people in America need to rethink their racism and prejudices before they start taking people's citizenship away.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  33. Shawn-Marie Woodard

    I strongly support this measure and wish it had come from Washington!! These illegal immigrants are destroying our country by coming here, taking jobs and sending the bulk of the dollars they make back to their home country.

    We need to keep the jobs and the DOLLARS with American Citizens and those friends who are here LEGALLY!! Good Job in Arizona!! Keep pushing the issues to make this country better!! This Amendment needs to be changed to exclude those who are born here illegally!!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  34. Antknio Hernandez

    My grandparents came to this country legally and achieved citizenship legally. The members of my family have strong beliefs on this topic that are simple illegal is illegal and no one should get a free pass, including business that imploy illegals. I also believe that a child should definitely have at least one parent whom is a citizen or has achieved leg

    February 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  35. UncleEd

    Just another of the Goofy Old Party's retrograde stupid backward move to the "Good Old Daze" of the "War Between The States". 1860's revisited by ignorant "State's Righters".

    February 7, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
  36. Lee

    For a number of years, persons seaking residenticy in the USA have came up with a number of ways to use the law to there favor. Paying a person to marry them to gain intry. Look at the number of pregnent Mexican wamen have been found coming across the boarter in AZ and other places. For this reason, I am a furm beliver that there should more to sitizenship than just being born on US soil. That in its self doesn;t make you a citizen

    February 7, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
  37. doug salyers

    The idea of denying innocent children the rights of legal citizenship is outrageous. At the time when the laws were written, they made it that way for a reason. Those reasons are still valid today. And when you look at history, no one but the native americans have a right to be here. This country was founded on certain basic principles that are being threatened by this dangerous law

    February 7, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
  38. barry bodine

    The legislators in this state are morons. After living in Phoenix
    for 38 years, I'm finally ready to say that I am embarrassed to
    live here. The Constitution is the highest Law of the Land. If you
    want to change it, follow the process. Don't grandstand with
    ridiculous, meaningless local laws. Put away your string ties
    and cowboy boots, and pass some meaningful legislation!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  39. Theresa

    This effort to punish babies born in the USA is a disgrace! We should welcome these new US citizens who may have much to offer once they grow up in the land of the free and home of the brave. Do we really expect someone born here, raised here to be shipped back to Mexico or to whatever country their parents came from?

    I don't understand this hatred of people who risk their lives to come here, taking it so far as to want to deny to BABIES citizenship in the land of their birth. Let's take this to the Sepremes who, hopefully, will decide not to trash out the 14th Amendment.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  40. Diane "Sunny" Bartholomew

    As a person whose father and in-laws had to become citizens through legal means, and as a believer that one of our country's fundamental principles is the rule of law, I believe citizenship is a privilege that should be given only to those who are in our country legally. A baby born to a parent (or parents) of illegals (whether one or both are illegal) should not be allowed to become a citizen automatically by virtue of birth in this country. I hope other states will follow Arizona's lead. Let us continue to encourage legal immigration into our country. We are strengthened by the diversity that continues to enrich our country through the addition of new citizens, but let us not be "guilted" into providing citizenship to those whose primary action within this country is contrary to the rule of law. Thank you for asking for our opinion.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  41. Mike Melia

    The child that is born in this country too parents that enter illegally into this country should not enjoy the privledge that others had to obtain by legal status.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  42. Laviana Cechner

    Is Arizona NOT a state of the USA???????
    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    * Anyone born inside the United States *
    * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

    Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  43. Arturo Nava

    People talk about how important it is to read the U.S. Constitution. Reading it is one thing but understanding it is a whole different ball of wax. The 14th amendment is so clear. "any person born in the United States is a citizen". Living on the border with Mexico, I see women walking accross the border and having a child in any of our hospitals or anywhere for that matter and he/she is an American citizen, according to the 14th amendment. I don't think that those who wrote the 14th amendment forsaw this problem. What we have to do if we don't like it, which I don't, is amend the U.S, Constitution but not try to fix it by passing state laws ! How stupid can the politicians in Arizona be ?

    February 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  44. Barbara R

    Arizona's proposed law would put healthcare professionals in the position of policing immigration which would open up a virtual Pandora's Box of problems. Here's two obvious examples:

    1. Medical professionals may lose their licenses to practice and/or be subject to civil (and, perhaps, criminal) litigation for denying or withholding necessary medical care;

    2. Illegal aliens will be less likely to seek out medical care for themselves or their family members, including children, due to fears of deportation.

    Thank goodness the US Constitution protects the rest of us from a few folks with a really bad idea.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  45. Linda Stevens

    If people would just stop and think, every single person in this country is a descendant of an illegal alien. The only people native to this country are Native Americans. The rest of us are children of ancestors that came to this country and stole it from the people who originally owned it. If the 14th didn't exist, we'd all have to leave because we were all born to people who were illegal aliens.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  46. Richard

    Our founding fathers could never have imagined many of the complex issues that confront the nation today. Though wise, they were men of their times. They were slave owners and by today's standards they would be considered ultra-bigots at the very least. If they knew then what we know now, they never would have allowed for this type of legal loophole to have existed. Strict adhearence to the constitution today is in some cases ridiculous and I personally believe that allowing children of people who have broken our laws and are here illegally is a loophole that should be plugged.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
  47. Cesar Tapia

    Denying citizenship to kids born in the US is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. This would deny the kids a chance at a better future. Think about it this way. I was born in Chicago in 1987 to parents who at the time where illegal aliens (have since become citizens). Had I been denied US citizenship I would have missed out on a good education, I never would have joined the United States Marine Corps, I never would have met my wife in Iowa, I never would have impregnated my wife and our baby boy Landyn would not be. I was given a chance and I am so grateful for that. You have to give these kids a chance too. Not giving them a chance is a crime!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
  48. Dale

    the people that are here illegally should not have the rights that a citizen here has. The constitution is for those of us that are here legally.
    I think the law is the thing to do to keep those out of here that don't pay taxes and are a burden to society.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  49. Manuel

    This bill brings back the xenophobic feel of proposition 187 and the save our state initiatives of California.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  50. Beth H.

    Denying citizenship to kids born in the US is clearly unconstitutional. The 14th amendment is clear that people born in the US or naturalized are citizens and deserve the same rights as every citizen. This law is trying to single out people in a very prejudiced and discriminatory manner. I understand that the people of Arizona, along with people across the nation, may be upset that our Federal government has been unable to successfully pass immigration reform, but the citizenship of a person and the laws about who can or cannot enter the country are, based on the US Constitution, a federal matter, NOT a state matter.

    What the states can, and should, do is to provide reasonable ideas and creative ideas to the situation so that a law can eventually be passed. It is obvious that reform is needed and that the party division is causing delays for this needed immigration reform. We need to come up with acceptable ideas that deal with illegal immigration without stopping up business lines, cost US taxpayers billions of dollars or create an environment of hate and racism. Laws like Arizona is trying to pass will only create more problems instead of solving the underlying issues.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  51. Charles Miller

    I believe that all states and all U. S. Teritories should adopt this proposed law. All illegal immigrants and their children should be arrested and sent back where they came from. Three U. S. Presidents, Eisenhour, Hoover, and Truman had the INS round up millions of illegal immigrants and send them back where they came from to improve the U. S. economy and create jobs for the American people. If the parents of a child born in the U. S. are here illegally then the child is illegal as well. I don't want my taxes going to support the healthcare, education, subsidized housing or welfare of any illegal immigrants. Send them back where they came from immediately.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  52. USA1

    That's illegal, protect the citizen, not the criminals. It's how the western world works, stop it.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  53. Reinhard G

    As a legal immigrant back in 1961 I finally became a naturalized US citizen in 1975. I totally agree with Arizona restricting the right of citizenship strictly based on a birthrate. Citizenship should be only given to children born in the US if the parents are legally here.

    Why the change? Well think of the cost to our healthcare system of illegal immigrants coming across the border to the US, to give birth in this country. Who pays for the hospital bill? We pay the bill not the illegal immigrant. More importantly we are rewarding the parents for there illegal activity.

    This country is suppose to be a melting pot of immigrants. Currently the number one ingredient thrown in the pot is hispanic. What happened to be mixing other people from around the world? Let people legally apply to come and work in this great country of ours instead of abusing the legal system in there favor.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
  54. Ron

    While it seems clear that our constitution presently makes anyone born here a citizen, I do think this needs to be changed. From any logical point of view at least one parent should be a legal citizen or resident for a child to be considered a citizen. Illegal Mexicans often come here to have a baby, with US taxpayers picking up the cost. They then try to leverage this into permanent legal residence.

    I am also for greatly reducing legal immigration which grows our population and resource demand. Any immigration reform bill that goes through congress should include provisions to eliminate the birthright amendment and should state that any further legalization of illegal immigrants in the future will require a 70% vote by both houses of congress. Only after cutting off any possibility of legalization will we be able to stop the invasion across our borders. I am not a conservative but this is an issue we all need to get behind.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  55. George

    Why not revoke all birth certificates except for native americans

    February 7, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  56. Jim s

    We are a nation of laws,supposedly. The parent or parents break the law by illegally entering the US, why should their children benefit from our law and be given citizenship?The question in the courts will be based on the interpretation of " persons subjected to our laws", they are not our citizens, not subjected to our laws, therefore they should not be citizens. Many just come here for that reason. Maybe denying citizenship to a baby will reduce illegal immigrants.

    Finally, the initial reaction about Arizona's immigration law was to demonstrate carrying their native flag not the US flag. Their loyalty seems to be to the birth country, they are just here for the money. Recents arrests of muslim terrorisst, living in this country, who are naturalized citizens, or legally here, seem to verify the hatred of Americans; yet they come here to get rich. Then some of them want to kill innocent citizens just because they disagree with us.

    I believe being a citizen is a priviledge not a right. Foreign's should earn and demonstrate their loyalty to America first, before they given this precious right

    February 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  57. Guy

    It is absolutely ludicrous to think that a child born to an illegal immigrant should be granted US citizenship!
    Legal immigration is the foundation that our great nation was built on, NOT illegal immigration. The long list of negative influences on our society and economy is to extensive to realistically broach.
    however, the most obvious consequence of such a ridiculous law is that it invites a waveof illegal immigrants to use the law as a loophole to establish themselves in our country. By the way, where do you think that those babies are born and who foots the bill for it?
    The endless wealth of the tax payers of course?

    February 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  58. David Hanson

    I worked for SouthEast Arizona Medical Center in Douglas, Arizona. Phelps-Dodge had donated an OB wing to the hospital in order to not operate it's previous one which had been too close to the border.

    Although it was quite a bit further for them to go, Mexican women in labor would still drag themselves to our OB any way they could in order to deliver their infants in the United States. They would put themseves in serious risk to get into the U.S.

    I knew women who had planned to do this even before they got pregnant. For them it was better than getting a Green Card. They spoke of it like it was the greatest scam they ever pulled – for them it was like winning the lottery!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  59. Kathy

    No I do not agree that we should give citizenship children born to illegal immigrants. to I'm a RN who has worked in obstetrics for nearly 30 yrs. Over and over again I care for women from all over the world who come to the US just to have their child born in the US. Within weeks they are requesting the birth certificate and returning home to their native country. Many come with no health insurance and once again we pick up the tab for another birth, which comes out of our paychecks regardless. It is frustrating when I see our own citizens struggling to pay for health care, college, etc. If we continue to allow them to come to this country for convience and the bonus of having their children become citizens, our own children suffer because the money will not be there for them. We offer so much to illegal immigrants already. And we end up paying the price. Once again they need to come here legally and earn the right to become citizens as did many before them. Then they can finacially contribute to our country the way we, the citizens already do. I would rather my money help those already in this country who are struggling.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  60. Evelyn Mills

    I support Arizona and believe this as well as the E-Verify program should be the law of the land with tough meaningful enforcement

    February 7, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
  61. Y.Baltodano

    This new law proposal in Arizona is just anti-constitutional, if you are born in America you are an American citizen period.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
  62. Kevin Rhind

    OMG don't get me started! I live in Phx., and our Gov't representatives are straight out of the 1800's. LOONY. Birther Bills, Lax Gun Laws, 1070, True Death Panels, and their just getting started! They are now proposing 2 new bills. One to allow a citizen to seize municipally owned vehicles as payment for a law suit against a Gov't Agency! The other, a Bill to allow Arizona to nullify Federal laws that a panel of lawmakers decides they don't like! For all of America's sake, CEDE ARIZONA

    February 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  63. Rosa Gomez

    I an hispanic who come to this country legally from my country, I know this is a country of Imegrants and I am happy about it, and one of the things I love from this country is that is a country of laws.
    I don't agree that people who come here iligally are going to have the same privilege than Legals, and what about the people who are waiting in another countries and making line to come here Legally.
    This country is going to loose a lot of International respect if doesn't enforce the laws.
    Children of illegals parents born in USA shouldn't have the american nationality, there are many anonymous terrorists who had children born in this country,and they will be the future citizens.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  64. Cooke

    RE: Citizen Birth Right
    Diplomats, Illegal immigrants and tourists are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States because they are not legal residents. The Mexican state agrees and thus issues a special ID card to their nationals. Other countries draft children of their citizens, born in this country, into their military service when they enter the country of their parents.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
  65. scotty

    ita very unfortunate to see the dog trying to bite the hand which fed it,for many of those pushing for that law are children of immigrants themselves nad believes no one else must enjoy the wonderful opportunity they got. They must remember their ancestors met the Indians here whom they killed and stole their possessions and turn around to offer citizenship. America was built on immigrant power and continues to do so. God bless America

    February 7, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
  66. David P Vernon

    Tucson, AZ – An act of the Arizona legislature is without value – the 14th Amendment is clear and the Supreme Court ruled on this issue 75 years ago. Merits of the change aside, if Arizona Republicans want to enact it they must move to amend the Constitution, and get three fourths of the States' legislatures to vote for the change with a two thirds majority each. All Arizona proves with this action is that the Arizona Senate is horribly ignorant of the laws they are supposed to uphold. I am sick and tired of my State being the laughingstock of the country.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  67. Dennis

    I have been an Arizona resident for 25 years and involved in government for 15-years. In my opinion this is the weakest legislature and poorest lead we have had since I have observer and participant.

    Arizona has severe financial, employment and education issues that need the the legislatures and political leadership constant attention. Yet the legislature is lead by Rep Pearce. He has placed his personal agenda and political and social agenda above and beyond the Arizona's real needs and issues. Unfortunately we have a Governor who has no backbone and cannot lead the state out of its complex crisis.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  68. Francis Selph

    Although, I am identified as Scot-Irish because of my last name I am, however, at least 3/4 Spanish (Mexican) American. I have knowledge directly through my Grandfather, how he lost two older brothers by being hung by Americanos in the 1850s, because they chased cows that were on their gardens. My great grandfather and his family were made an American citizens against their will. He felt that the Americanos were the illegal aliens. Those Americanos in Arizona should consider their background before acting they way they act. Don't continue denying that the US doesn't take land by conquering.. It's disgraceful. I have a right to say the things I do. I served my country for more than twenty years.

    February 7, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  69. Noreen Slavin

    Where are the laws already passed for citizenship in this great country of ours? Seems nobody is watching the store there to begin with, therefore, illegal immigration! All those that did apply for citizenship in the U.S.A. through legal channels should be recognized but let those that don't wait their turn be refused. Not even the "invisible wall" that was supposed to catch the invasion of our country's land has worked, and neither should a "baby'!
    What has happened to our governing system? People! People! Wake up!

    February 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
  70. Marcoantonio Arellano

    I can't help but to think that the impetus behind this new effort to modify the 14th amendment is racially based with the face of the poster being Hispanic/latino American. Being that it's being introduced in Phoenix/Arizona and being followed along by the more conservative states, politically, in the country(Bill 1309 in Arizona and 590 in Indiana) shows the on going pursuit by the Tea Party and GOP (no difference), in step by step, they are eliminating the largest growing political base. How better to do this than by herding whole families out of the country, not allowing their progeny of becoming American citizens even if born in this country as defined by the 14th amendment of our constitution. This is insidiously manifesting nuances of how history shows that nations were sucked into the ugliness of ethnic cleansing.

    I am appalled at all the surreptitious efforts of right wing extremists.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
  71. Roy

    I love the leadership Arizona has taken on this! I hope this sparks a non violent up rising on the entire issue.

    The 14th amendment was a noble effort created to usher the black slaves freed by Lincoln into citizenship. We were joined the Nation and bought into the melting pot idea. We brought our highest ideals, and our best hopes but we did it by assimilating into this Nation. Many, many of those coming here illegally, and their offspring NEVER assimilate, and arrive with a sense of entitlement for rights, and sevices they should not get. This is a HUGE issue! Yes, I understand the illegal’s come here seeking the same commitment everyone does to open new doors of opportunity and justice.

    However, the slaves and their descendants became Americans, (and had to wait 100 years to get what most Americans took for granted), we earned the promises of this country, and those promises are the birthright of all the people here LEGALLY, and should NOT be handed over to those not paying into the pool, or those who ignored the system to become Americans, or used a loop hole in the system to stay here. 1309 is a great move!

    February 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
  72. Eugene

    The new law is a good and just requirement. U. S. citizenship should not be automatic for a child of any alien, whether the alien is here legally as a tourist or here illegally having walked into our country.
    We don't allow anyone to become a citizen by declaring, "I am a U. S. citizen." We shouldn't allow anyone to be a citizen just by being born here.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
  73. Alex Contreras

    The proposal for the new arizona law is ridiculous. If being born in the United States doesn't make you a citizen then what does, being born in England? Just another attempt from a group of racists leaders to minimize the country of as many minorities as possible. I pray this law never sees the light of day

    February 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
  74. Anna Gutierrez

    I AM AN AMERICAN! I am a 17 year old girl that is considered an anchor baby. Being an "anchor baby" I am of course against the denial of citizenship not only for myself but for other "anchor babies" in the United States. It has been brought to my attention that the passing of the new proposal could possibly determine my fate as to whether I can continue my citizenship in the United States, even though the 14th amendment states that if I am born or naturalized in the United States I am in fact a United States citizen and according to Jus soli "the law of ground" it is my birth right that I am granted citizenship. Any revocation of citizenship violates the 14th amendment. This country was founded by immigrants and the United States would not be the country it is today without these immigrants. I am outraged that the country I live in and love I feel has suddenly turned on me and wants me out of my home.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  75. Cliff Holt

    Why are you a citizen just because you are born on the soil of a country? Are we not almost alone in the family of nations that treat citizenship this way?
    If the mother or father is a citizen, ok. I think this practice of confiring citizenship because of the place of birth only adds fuel to the fires on illegal immigration.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  76. Kat

    No other country offers citizenship to persons born is their country. Why shyould we.?
    If you were born in "China" would you be a citizen of China?? I don't think so ., if you were born in China, would you be a citizen of the country of your parents also.?
    This has to stop. We have to use common sense and look out for our country and its citizens.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
  77. John L

    Living in New York I see more illegal immigrants than the average American. Yes, there are those that know the law and purposely arrive here to give birth to an "automatic citizenship" for their child. My grandparents came here legally for a better life and applied and studied to became U.S. citizens. My parents, both born here, were "automatic citizens". The question is how does one legally separate those that intentionally defy the system with those that legitimately desire to become citizens?

    February 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
  78. Granite

    If there really is a proposed law in Arizona that would apply to US citizenship , it is unconstitutional. The 14th Amendment made US citizenship entirely a federal matter.

    The relevant section of the 14th reads:

    "1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

    February 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
  79. Toni C

    addendum: I believe that children born in the US to illegals are citizens, BUT, the children go with the parents not the other way around. The children should be given a special birth ceritif. with their finger prints applied to it, then deported with the parents. When the child turns18yo he or she should be allowed into the US without issue once birth certif. and finger priints are verified. Then as adults they may apply for proper legal visas for other family members.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
  80. Wayne

    We need to enforce the law! We should not listen to people taking atvantage of our prior charity. There has to be an end to all giving to people breaking breaking our laws. If we have to amend the 14th then what are we waiting for? I for one( out of work citizen) want all illegals stopped. We can't foot the bill any more.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
  81. Terri Coleman

    Can we kick Arizona out of the Union?

    February 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  82. kris

    i think the problem is not the birth of the child, but the real issue should be the parents. i think the mother should be allowed to stay for one year after birth, as long as she works to pass a very difficult citizenship test. if after this year she has not passed the test, she then gets the option to adopt the child to an american family or take the child back to her country of origins.this is not an issue of locations but morals. should parents be allowed to use their children to skirt the laws.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
  83. Adolfo

    It seems that the Great State of Arizona is on a separation path from the United States of America. The next thing they might rule out offensive is the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America..."One nation indivisble with liberty and justice for all." The BraiNoSaurs who appear to pass anything anti-American will make it a law with flying colors. It is time for them to realize that they enjoy their freedom thanks to the join efforts of the U.S.A. Who do they think they are? Thinking about it, may be they would like to be annexed to Mexico, Perhaps we are not reading the fine print.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  84. Cheryl Sammons

    I have 5 grandchildren born to illegal aliens from Mexico. All were born in the United States. 2 of them are living with their father in Texas and he has custody. He is the better parent and deserves the children. The other one has been deported 3 times and just got back here the 4th time from Mexico last July. If I knew where he was I would call INS. The two children living with their father in Texas visit their grandparents in Mexico. I fear for their lives if their father gets deported. They have passports.

    February 7, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  85. Al

    The state of AZ has been described as a cesspool of political bigotry. It is the home of the rightwing, the Tea Party, the Tea Party Patriots and the politicans who pander to them. All of them class themselves as super partiots, supporters of the Constitution and avid supporters of the right to carry a gun aywhere you want-which brings to mind the individual who killed 6 and wounded 13 in Tucson because he had the constitutional right to carry a gun.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
  86. yasmin

    In modern time.s I DO think its time to change the law> Parents are breaking the law being here illegally then they try to use their children status to try not to be deported! Most other countries do not allow non citizens to run loose. I hope AZ laws come to my state soon. Playing by rules is not mean spirted.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
  87. taxpayer

    We must protect ourselves against thieves. Those coming into our country and abusing our generosity must be stopped.

    These folks ruined their country with illiteracy and illegitemacy and now they want to ruin ours.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
  88. Mike

    The14th amendment was crafted to fill up an almost empty country with people. The country no longer needs more people and people here illegally should not get rewarded for bad behavior. besides that it is not fare to the people that are going through the proper channels to come here legally.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
  89. Kathy, Glendale, Az

    Unless you live in a border state with an overwhelming illegal population, you cannot understand how much this problem dessimates a states economy, health care costs, etc., not to mention our crime. EVERY DAY law enforcement in AZ finds drug smugglers, human smugglers, etc. This is a dangerous state to live in right now. (I no longer take I-8 when I drive to San Diego, because of it's proximity to the Mexican border.)

    Unless our government plans to have all of this population pay huge fines to become U.S. citizens and reimburse the states who have born the majority of their costs, they should NOT be made legal citizens.

    Also, I'm sick of the "sense of entitlement" that illegals seem to have to become U.S. citizens. They BROKE THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY & SHOULD NOT be rewarded for doing so.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
  90. Mike

    I have a feeling many children are born in the US by people that are not here legally because we will foot the bill.

    perhaps the law needs to change to people without legal documentation do not get free health care.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  91. kris

    if a dipomat's(some one here legally) children can't become citizens why should a child born to illegal aliens be differant . if your not a CITIZEN then your childs not. get here legally and your child is a legal citizen. the reson the "therefor" clause dosen't say more is it should have to. its loophole that are making the noose for this country.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
  92. Karen

    I don't think children born here with illegal parents should be citizens of the U.S. Why give privlages to criminals?

    February 7, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
  93. John Doherty

    The 14th amendment is clearly written with respect to individuals born or naturalized in the United States. They all have rights. If we want to change the 14th amendment, we should put a stop to corporations claiming individual rights through the 14th amendment so that the actual individuals who run corporations can avoid liability. Corporations pose the biggest "gaming of the system" that the author of the bill pretends to care about.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
  94. Alex

    When a baby is born in USA, he is not a citizen of any other country except USA. Where will USA deport that child. He will be illegal in every country.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  95. Susan O Davis

    I think that it is unconstitutional and hope that it goes to the Supreme

    February 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm |

    I think it's a necessary evil to prevent the parents from using these children as a back door way of the parents being allowed to stay in this
    country by jerking our 'pity chain'! It makes sense that we prevent the parents , who are illegally here, from exploiting their own children.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  97. Alexi H.

    The 14th Admendment is being skewed by self-serving illegals to claim that their children born here are citizens. The phrase, "under the JURISDICTION of the US" is the decisive distinction. Illegals are NOT under US jurisdiction, but under the jurisdiction of their home countries. Anchor babies are a racket for those illegally here... the parent/s receive the checks. DISCLOSE the fact that anchor babies WILL lead to 'chain migration' for any AND all other relatives that the anchor has, INCL, the child's illegal parent/s to remain. Since illegals left family behind in their homeland... 'separating families' doesn't resonate, They can take their children back to their origins with them. We are not an orphanage. There are no vultures flying over starving Mexicans... they have food, schools, tvs and medical facilities. They have their own nation to build. The claim that we are 'punishing' children of illegals born here by not granting citizenship is likewise offset by 'rewarding' illegal behavior 'with' citizenship. We have subsidized the 'rewards' for illegals and their offspring far too long at unsustainable costs to US citizens. I personally feel that the actions of illegals here are repugnant and duplicitous. The sooner we deport all those here illegally, no more 'deals', the faster the US will rebound economically and socially, as well.

    February 7, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
  98. Laura Williams

    I live in California, I have watched as illegal immigration got out of control. My government can't decide what to do. My solution is to make a new lay that requires immigrant families to prove there residency one time. If they have been here 20 years or 3 generations not less than 15 years they have become pat of thier communities. They should be allowed to stay. They should be required to regester this information one time. The information put into a data base that can be axcessed by all law enforcement, social services, medical treatment ficilities, and schools. If they are not in the computer when they come in contact with any of these agencies they should be sent home, not detained for weeks, and weeks just sent home. Everyone talks about thisproblem, lets do something about the problem.

    February 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
  99. Doe

    Children of illigal immigrants should not be able to become US citizens PERIOD!

    February 7, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
  100. Nyse

    Illegals are coming here to have children which we have to pay for with our tax dollars. Education, health benefits, food stamps, SSI, etc. Most people can not pay more. Stop this nonsense, deport all illegals and their children.

    February 7, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
  101. barbara holdcraft

    People of privilege seem to know why others must suffer or be rejected. I am not more important than anyone else on this planet. If aliens need to be taxed or follow certain paths to become"legal", then we make the plan. The Constitution stands. If born here, you are a citizen.

    February 7, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
  102. R.W. BELL

    Children of illegal immigrants should NOT be awarded citizenship! As a law enforcement officer, if I commit an "illegal" act while doing my job (illegal search, etc) everything after that act is useless/void (fruit of the poisonous tree). This is the same situation. How can you be rewarded for breaking the law?!?! Not to mention the strain these illegals put on our economy! These kids go to our schools, use our welfare/aid programs, and raise population levels which result in higher law enforcement expenses but their parents (being illegal) don't pay taxes which support these things. Now we wonder why our country is broke & why there are few (if any) jobs available. I have several close friends who are legal immigrants from various countries who are furious with these illegals and the process which allows them to stay here if they have kids born here. These legal immigrants worked to become citizens & did it the right way. It is a slap in the face of everyone who gets their citizenship legally. Our country is not about closing off our borders and not letting anyone in, we have a legal process for immigrants to follow that allows them to become US citizens. I find the news clips that show the children hold signs that say what they want to be when they grow up to be hilarious. The man says that these kids are the future and should be allowed to pursue these dreams regardless of their parents illegal status. The point is that these kids should get what they want in spite of acts of illegal immigration. Does this apply to everyone?!?! If my kids want to be millionaires, do I get to steal other peoples' money to make their "dreams" come true? America is the land of opportunity, but you have to pursue that legally!

    February 8, 2011 at 10:00 am |
  103. Eileen Curras widow to Hernandez, WWII

    I think that the society on the United States has confuse the priorities. Of course now we have an Economical Crisis, but the fact is that Hispanics are becoming a significant figure and this push from Arizona is just another example of racist imposition with fear. I am sad to say that Republicans are using fear tactics to impose these idea. It is sad that the United States has come up to this situation. It is a shame and I am an American Citizen, but I have become a problem thanks to a Health Condition call Multiple Sclerosis (MS). Sadly, I am a widow to a Wold War II Veteran, but I do not receive any benefits and when I was diagnosed my child was 6 years old. I will dissapear again when she will turn 18 years old. Thanks to the loopholes from Republicans.

    February 8, 2011 at 10:00 am |
  104. Eileen Curras widow to Hernandez, WWII

    It is sad that America has come down to this attitude and way of thinking.

    February 8, 2011 at 10:01 am |
  105. Frederick. Bronson

    If both parents are here illegally they had that child as fraud an anchor baby, and was paid for by welfare medicaid. They should all be shipped back, and/or be put in jaiL. Americans who commit fraud go to jail why not illegals. Frederick. C. Bronson

    February 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
  106. rios

    i feel bad for all you who said the children should not be giving their citizens if their parents are illegal. You guys are the true definition of IGNORANCE! People from other countries come to this place to work hard and support their family the economy in other countries are bad people have reasons to be here and they should remain here just because dumb people think they shouldn't be living in the united states don't mean they should get deported!! How about all you guys put yourselves in their position and lets see if you all would like reading these obnoxious comments try leaving your children behind to give them a better life.

    February 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
  107. AndyTheGameInventor

    First, it's never been an American principle to punish the children, parents, or spouses of those who commit crime.

    Second, these so-called anchor babies grow up to be typical Americans, with good educations (paid for by the US taxpayer) and good jobs (paying taxes to the US government), in other words, just like every other American.

    If anchor baies are really a problem, the solution is to change the law permitting them to sponsor their parents for citizenship – not to punish them for an offense that they had nothing to do with.

    February 8, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  108. Lucy

    The 14th Amendment as written is rather broad in its definition of US citizenship. At the time it was written, the country had just been through a divisive and devastating internal war and those in positions of leadership were seeking to protect the rights of people freed in 1863 by the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln made no provision for the care and employment of all these newly freed citizens. They were left to fend for themselves for the most part. Now we come to our present issue. Many blacks still struggle for equal opportunity. Many are still living in disadvantaged neighborhoods, where it is hard to find a good job. It is better than during the Reconstruction, and it is better than it was in the early 1960s, when Dr. King fought so hard to bring a higher consciousness to the American people. But there is still a great disparity of opportunity in our divided cultures, and now added to the mix there is the problem of vast numbers of illegal aliens overwhelming the various governmental social welfare systems. A threshold is fast approaching when the government will no longer be able to support all who call on it for aid. Who do we keep and who do we kick to the curb? There will be a triage enacted eventually, and whoever is in power will dictate those terms. Be prepared for a serious culture struggle. I am not taking sides in this but observing the developments with great concern. We are near a crossover point, where we could either move into one of the most creative and productive phases this country has ever seen, or, we could enter into one of the most chaotic and self destructive times since 1861. It we choose the latter, the question of the 14th Amendment may become irrelevant.

    February 8, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
  109. txleadhead

    Two wrongs don't make a right. Only in America.

    February 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
  110. Janet

    It encourages illegal behavior.

    It is hard to imagine why this wasn't considered when the law/amendment was created.

    February 8, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
  111. Brian

    How would this be enforced? My only proof that I’m a US citizen right now is my birth certificate, it has my mother and father’s name on it but not what their legal status is (their only status is that they have bc’s too), what if they’re dead and I can’t find their bc, does my citizenship come into question.

    Okay so this is not retroactive, but move this conversation 50 years into the future after something like this has been adopted; someone has a baby and can’t get a birth certificate because they can’t prove citizenship or legal status, years go by, what happens to that kid? Can you deport him/her? To where, if they never lived anywhere else?

    What are we talking about here, a second class of people born here but with no legal rights, can’t vote, no access to jobs or services?

    Do we have to have a national birth registry to keep track of who’s a citizen and who’s not, not sure the Libertarian folks out there would like that very much. It all sounds pretty dangerous.

    February 8, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
  112. Joan Stilwell

    It is not ignorance nor stuipidity to desire illegals to return home. They have pushed into our country, broken our laws and continue to do so. Those bleeding hearts that shutter at the harshness of obeying the law of our country should consider that many of us are being forced to support non-citizens against our will – we would rather support our citizens. In these economic times we should not be exploited monetarily by "freebie grabbing" illegals. I think that people who support the idea of unwarranted illegals babies citizenship should open their pocketbooks wide and take the burden off us objecting taxpayers. As pointed out earlier, Mexico (and other nations) have colleges, primary schools, hospitals, transport, and any and all civil institutions. Deport them, they are exploiting America!

    February 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
  113. Waldo

    AFTER we've given legal amnesty (route to citizenship) to youngsters who've already grown up here (ie, children born of parents who were/are illegal immigrants prior to a specific date), AFTER we've reformed current immigration law, THEN we NEED TO CHANGE OUR Constitution to state that an infant BORN to an AMERICAN CITIZEN (at least 1 parent) is CONSIDERED AN AMERICAN CITIZEN and not simply because your mother gave birth while on American soil..

    February 9, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  114. Delaware Bob

    To CNN:

    Report this on your news! The 14th NEVER intended for illegl aliens to be rewarded with U.S. Citizenship from entering this Country ILLEGALLY! So, read this and REPORT IT!

    From The Fourteenth Amendment:

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    This says that the Congress can actually codify what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" really means. The Amendment Author in his support of Section 1 clearly stated that this Amendment was not intended to give Citizenship to everyone. Since the Amendment took effect, U.S. Court Stare Decisis has established an "owe allegiance too" test for bestowing birthright Citizenship. Since Congress has remained silent on how Illegal Immigration fits into the "owe allegiance too" test the assumption is that the children of Illegal Immigrants are automatically Citizens. But the text of the decision in the 1982 case Plyler v. Doe refers to the ability of Congress to step forward and actually do something about problems of interpretation.

    Per the Supreme Court Of The United States decision in the case Katzenbach v. Morgan: “Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment is a positive grant of legislative power authorizing Congress to exercise its discretion in determining the need for and nature of legislation to secure Fourteenth Amendment guarantees.” In fact a clarification of what “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” could be done quite simply with an Act of Congress.

    OK, CNN. Got that? Better yet, do the illegal aliens understand this?

    February 9, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  115. Richard Pascal

    It's unconstitutional, to begin with. More importantly, it is unAmerican. Shame on Arizona. Unless we are Native American we are all "anchor babies" from a historical perspective.

    February 10, 2011 at 1:21 am |
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    February 10, 2011 at 1:57 am |
  117. Dan

    Its about time, " anchor babies " are the incentive for some to sneak into our USA. Take away the incentive and perhaps less will sneak in......

    February 10, 2011 at 6:05 pm |
  118. Stop Spending Money With Companies That Hire Illegal Aliens & Out Source U.S Jobs

    Help Stop The Political Traitors In Congress & End Illegal Politics In The U.S

    We must organize & mobilize as a nation now… The U.S is on the path of being taken over by illegal immigrant and terrorist by 2011. Media black outs & internet censoring or site blocking in the U.S is already being tested and a bill is up for a vote. What’s next to be taken away, freedom of speech and the right to bear arms? Beware crooked businesses, politicians, and other trader illegal immigrant supports will push congress & Obama to vote to yes on an amnesty bill this year to allow the continued invasion of over 30 million illegal immigrants. Most of who are habitual lawbreakers, uneducated, criminals, terrorists, gang members, pedophiles, prostitutes, and drug users/dealers. Illegal Immigrant and supporters steal money, use violence, and make terrorist threats to people who oppose amnesty or want laws enforced. Defense budgets and military bases all over the country are closing down. Wake up U.S citizens!!! We do not need more illegal’s joining the military. We have the draft and Militia’s in law for emergency or invasion. Why are our military soldiers dispatched all over the world? Not to protect us, but to protect big corporations and the rich over seas. Your current lawmakers have sold us out to foreign nations, private investors and the poor south of our border. The plan is to replace us with illegal immigrants then leave legal U.S citizens broke, hungry and defenseless to be taken over by rich and poor foreigners with bad intension. Citizens born in the United States are the target of elimination and are slowly being pushed out of the workforce to be left broke and dry. Illegal immigrants in the U.S earn an average income of $30,000 per yr with no papers, elementary diploma, high school diploma, or college degree. This is our regional land and the citizens born of it have a physical & spiritual oath to preserve or defend it at all cost. A fact is illegal immigrants hate U.S citizens; many raise their kids to be lawbreakers, criminals and to support terrorism in the USA like there parents. This Dream Act and any for of amnesty is a breach of national security and must be stopped now. The people do not have to accept this treason or any new laws or legislation that supports foreigners before it’s own legal citizens. So if you prefer to keep living a lie and are too scared, lazy or have no will to defend the soil you were born on to help citizens & people in need… Then don’t follow us at

    February 10, 2011 at 11:41 pm |
  119. Diane


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  120. Daniel

    Finally Common sense prevails, why is it our law makers can't see the wisdom of this on a federal level? I makes no differance what your country of orgin is simply crossing the border and having a baby here should not be a free pass to citizenship for your children.

    February 14, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  121. kandee

    I would not be allowed to become a Mexican Citizen in Mexico if my Parents were not "legal" in Mexico.

    There are many, many children in the world today "Red, and Yellow, Black and White" and other and of many different nationalities and "languages."

    When I dial a business I am not asked to push 1 for English and then be bombarded with some loud person yelling at me in Spanish?

    This is America, The United States of America and we speak English . Anyone living here should speak English and should pay taxes and insurance just like the rest of us who are "legal" are made to do, period.

    I agree with the law. There are other children who need help, not just native Spanish Speaking children.

    The United States should take care of their own citizens first, their own children who are here legally first. Then we would be in a much better position to help children of many different nations and languages.

    Is this Mexico, or the United States?

    February 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  122. fahmina

    We should care about kids born outside Ecuador and add funds for Foreign Direct Investment (FDI).

    February 17, 2011 at 9:47 am |
  123. sheeba

    there is a group of people in h1b they are legal in united states waiting to get their permanent resident status and the spouses of h1 (h4 visas) cant study,can;t work. united states is giving a option to separate from ur family.the kids born to legal workers are us citizens . they refused all the rights of us citizenship. The us citizens are deported when their parents visa is up.then they need to seek residency in some other country. educate * comeback *** after they become age of 21.this is modern day slavory

    February 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  124. Al

    They should not be citizens for their own good, if parents shipped back which they all should be then they are orphens. We should take away all incentives for them to come here. Jail employers who hire them and not give citizenship to offspring so parents can't be seperated and sent back. They are calling people with union cards freeloaders, they need to look elswhere.

    February 22, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
  125. Al

    Strike my comment, please.

    February 22, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
  126. john ludlow

    I agree with it 100%. If the parents are illegal aliens then not only deny the child citizenship,deport the lot of them.. I come from a military family and served three years myself. My father retired from the military and serverd in Korea and Veitnam. My paternal uncle seved in Veitnam and earned a purple heart and bronze star. My grandfathe marched through the arch d'tiumph in Paris in wwI. Two maternal uncles died in wwII.My family has served this country and shed it's blood protecting it's freedom for generations. To have it handed away by democrats makes me sick. Did my uncles die in vain? Hispanics have also taken over the entire residentiual construction trade in the sioutheast.. Oh, I forgot, being a carpenter or painter are jobs Americans don't want.

    March 1, 2011 at 12:23 am |
  127. sojourner

    For many years, pregnant women have crossed the border deliberately for the purpose of having their babies in the US, creating this group of children "in limbo". We American citizens have allowed this tragic situation to develop, and it is our responsibility to get it stopped. All people in this country illegally should be immediately deported. Crossing the border to give birth in the US should be a crime with legal consequences..

    March 2, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
  128. Jennifer Perdomo

    I believe this is unfair to the children it's not their fault their parents are immigrants. If they approve on that many children dreams will be atrophied. If woman come to this country to have baby maybe that baby will help them have a better life.THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY!!

    March 4, 2011 at 12:33 am |
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    If it wasnt for illegal immigrants this country would have never been born. It's the fault of the ignorant people who fill the minds of others with bias ideas which make no sense and aren't true.

    March 6, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
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    I think 14 th needs to be change.It is just so wrong and not fair people come to US illegaly and give birth so some day they can became a ctizen. I am also trying to be citizen in this country many years.. I am legal, I own a busines in US. Living on visa. All that money brought form the country I was born spend in US and made a living for my selfe and employed several American citizen, payed taxes and still can not became America citizen . It is hard.
    I am not trying to be mean but this people have so easy and spending tax payers money! Democrats don't do anythink because they need spanish votes,. Republicans don't do anythink because they need their work.. I don't see this is going to be solve out anytime soon.

    October 31, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
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    Unless you are 100% native American who are you to talk?! You all think you guys are superior than anyone else and think you have the right do be racist and mean to others because Christopher Columbus STOLE this land from the native Americans. To all of you who are being coldhearted and racist, ask for forgiveness from the lord because judgment day is soon approaching!

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    Supporters of denying U.S. citizenship to children of immigrants argue the legality of the parents and even how other countries do not allow it. With this in mind, should the law instead be changed to allow U.S. citizenship only to those who can trace their roots to Native Americans? Given that Americans, other than Native Americans of course, can all trace their roots to the other continents, should they also go back to “their or their ancestor’s” countries to ask for citizenship? Silly, right?

    But just silly at it may seem to look so far back in history, especially to the descendants who have benefited from their ancestors’ not so legal and even bloody settlement to the Americas, so is making new laws that end up punishing the children of illegal immigrants.

    Food for thought, not argument. I do believe that we are blessed to Americans, but blessing should be shared not hoarded.

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    A person is in fact a citizen of whatever country the mother is a citizen even if the baby was born on American soil

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    A person"s citizenship is whatever the mother's citizen is even if born on American soil period.

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    A person"s citizenship is whatever the mother's citizen is even if born on American soil period. Get rid of the law, this is the reason so many pregnant immigrants are coming here, this is a ridiculous law and a waste of tax payer money.

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    We are a country of immigrants, so i would like to know when that stopped. It's sad to turn on the tv and see children crying for thier parents'. This action not going to do nothing to stop drugs from getting to the U.S.A. Most of them our coming from other countries such as China good for that drug that turns you into a zombie, also Fentenol. Thier is much more, the man in the white house needs to do some research and then tell the truth. Many people were here before us. Even, people of the lost ten tribes.

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