He's correct. There's a place for this type of political person and it is not here.
March 29, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
Nancy
He's absolutely right! No religion belongs in government. Not even Christianity. Maybe he should have made that clear also.
March 29, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
Alex
....One nation under God. If a devout muslim is not supposed to befriend an infidel, then why should one serve in a position that gives them authority over American lives? Kudos to Mr. Cain.
March 29, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
Marsha
Cain says Sharia law and Islam do not belong in our government but neither does Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or any other religion. Religion should not be a consideration in government issues beyond matters of discrimination. This obsession with Islam and the suppose Islamic threat to our government is just old fashioned xenophobia. Eliminating the influence of all religion on government should be the priority not singling out one religion and demonizing.
March 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
Alex San Diego Ca
Weren't the same arguments made about Catholics last century? That if Catholics were allowed at the highest levels of government that they would put the US under the rule of the pope. That fear was never realized.
March 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
Caryn Joy
I agree...Muslim Law does not belong here in our United States. Not now, not ever.
Our laws need to be changed in general; we don't need anything else getting in our way of life.
March 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
James
I agree with Herman Cain. No religion should be allowed to influence the laws of a country. It doesn't matter if the laws are based on Islam, Christianity, Judaism, or whatever. There is no place in the government for religion. That is how our founding fathers wanted it. Whether or not someone is Muslim is irrelevant. If they want to influence the laws of the United States based on any religion then they have no place in our government.
March 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
Dawn
I absolutely agree with Mr. Cain according to Article 6 of our Constitution. There is no precedent for Sharia law in our courts; therefore the Muslim nation is creating set-up legal situations in order to create precedents, and therefore subtly insert their will and their influence into American courts.
March 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
heide
what do I think about that? I think When people first started saying Obama was a Muslim he and every news person should have said "He's not, but what if he was? Muslims have the right to be president" I think Obama missed a chance to illustrate to America that every person in America should have equal rights and garner equal respect no matter their belief or even their lack of belief; as an atheist I am as discriminated against as Muslims. How many Atheists are there in public office who are able to "come out" as atheists?
March 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
Brad
He is 100% spot on. No Muslim should ever be allowed to serve in any political office.
March 29, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
Arnold Levey
My main problem with your quoting anti-Muslim comments of "presidential candidate Herman Cain "is not the ignorant statements themselves, but in CNN referring to this individual as a "presidential candidate". does CNN really need to invent presidential candidates when the real ones say some pretty ignorant things?
March 29, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
Wajdi from NY
Being not a Muslim myself, I do feel how bad these racist comments are and I wonder if a Jewish person would tolerate them if it was an anti-Jewish comment. I am just surprised that Muslims and Arabs in general don't legally seek racism charges against anyone who labels them negatively! Being an Arab American, I will call to form an agency or a group who would work with legal and civil rights attorneys to make sure that anyone who speaks negatively of Muslims or Arabs gets sued, with no exceptions.
March 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
Elaine Cooper
I TOTALLY agree with Herman Cain. He is the first American person I have heard to stand up for this country USA. This country was NOT founded for the Muslim faith, BUT for the Christian faith. There is a difference. Look around the world at all the other countries that have made decisive decisions to maintain their originality. There needs to be a clear line of do's and don'ts and the U.S. government at this time does not have a clue on what they are doing or how to do it. We need leadership not passiveness.
March 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
Norm M
The costitution prevents any religion to be part of the law, or to control the law of the public , yet most American as is myself interpret the Shurie law disregards our law and may be announced to replace our law little by little . Which do we believe , their pulpit or their book of rules as Muslims ?? Very concerning if they want us to believe them as US citizens
March 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
Jennifer
Every time Mr. Cain speaks I like him more and more. He's a business man that has brought success to the businesses he has run and I hope he do the same for economy if elected. The fact that he believes, as many Americans do, that Muslims are trying to take over our law and culture is IMPRESSIVE and I agree 100% that it should not be allowed.
March 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
Richard Cobb
Potential Republican Presidential Candidate Herman Cain's comment stating he would not appoint a Muslim to his cabinet, or as a federal judge, is outrageous. He, a black man, of all people, should be sensitive to racist and ethnic bias. Shame on him!
March 29, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
Najma
It's a shame that Hermain Cain forgets that segregation era was only decades ago and so instead of embracing his freedom and civil rights that so many advocated for, he is quick to discriminate other ethnic and religious groups.
March 29, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
pamela may
Although I disagree with just about everything the new rith, tea baggers represent, there is one thing I do agree upon and that is the threat of islam and sharia law. Most people in the west simply do not understand just how insidious this threat is. It is also not, as some have suggested in dealing with sharia law, just a cultural matter. This is a law until itselt and respects no other. Given a chance to implant itself into our culture it will be difficult to uproot.
March 29, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
Bill McVay
Thank God for Herman Cain. This country needs more like him. Why do we have such short memories in this country? Have we really forgotten the events of 9/11/2001 already and so many many other events that are perfect examples of what muslims think of the United States of America? Come on people, its time for us to pull our heads out of our you know where...
March 29, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
Chip
I don't favor Republicans most of the time, but I don't feel uncomfortable with the statement that this gentleman would not appoint a Muslim. I would be more comfortable if he had said he would not appoint any person of religious faith to government office. Our Jewish friends, for example, exert much too much influence over our foreign policy, and as a result, we give 2.7 billion of our tax dollars each year to Israel, and rarely speak up against that country's actions that we don't agree with. I also think that Christians (especially born again Christians) have too much influence, particularly in our medical profession. They get in the way of stem cell research and safe and legal abortions.
Muslims are not the problem as I see it. Religion is.
March 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
D. Reele
I agree 100 per cent. This country was founded on the Judeo-Christian work ethic. We also have a long tradition of a free & fair Judicial System. We should not take the chance, however small, of introducing Sharia law into our legal system.
We already have a problem identifying citizens from non-citizens. That problem would be multiplied a thousand fold if people were allowed to wear a burka over their faces in ID photos, in airports, or in public buildings like courthouses.
March 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
wipster
Any employee or elected representative of the US should leave their religion at home when doing their job, be they Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, or Muslim. I am certain there are many people of the Islamic faith in our government today and I would trust them to not let their religion influence the way they perform their job, either overtly or covertly... if they do, then they should be fired or voted out of office. It's called separation of church and state.
March 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
MC in CT
I firmly believe this man has his finger on the pulse of the American pulse.
March 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
patricia rodriguez
Finally a canidate that "gets it" and is actually concerned about America. I will sincerely look at this person as a president.
March 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
Allister
It's a slippery issue. The First Amendment guarantees the American the RIGHT to believe as they will. Religion is protected...fiercely.
That said, the United States has a tricky problem. The fact is that the United States is, at least on paper and in public policy, an aggressive enemy of "terrorism." As it just so happens, all of the serious organizations that the United States is targeting, happen to be Islamic. This does not mean, however, that the United States is, in no uncertain terms, against Islam. So should Islam be banned in some form? Not at all.
Islam also has a problem. While the extremist and terrorists are a very, very small portion, they do exist. Suicide bombers and beheadings in the Middle East are performed by Muslims; there are no Jewish or Christian suicide bombers anywhere, and thus the argument CAN be made that there is something specific to Islam that allows for extremism and severe violence. But should it? I can't answer that for sure...
March 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
Mike Gintzler
Re: Herman Cain and Muslims
The more I learn about 6this man, the more I like him. Ask him a question you get a straight forward no hedging answer.
Unfortunately he is so honst he proobably yhas no chance in American politics
March 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
Ken Atkinson
Herman Cain is right on. He say's what many Americans think because he is in touch with America. Recently the prime minister of Australia came out with a strong statement about the muslims in her country. It's time for political correctness to be tossed out the window. Sharia law has no place in this country or Australia. As Americans we need to support those willing to make a stand. We love America and our Constitution as it stands. President Obama has his own agenda and it isn't good for Americans.
March 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
Lee Hustead
This country is full of atheists (such as myself and wife) and other non-believers (spiritualists, humanists, etc) who are just as opposed to the imposition of christian law (such as ban abortions, ban gays and gay marriage, ban prostitution, ban marijuana, high tax on cigarrettes and alcohol, oppostion to equal rights amendment, etc) as we are to sharia law. So if extremists succeed in banning muslims from government will we be next? Will they export us to Libya? == Lee
March 29, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
Darrell Baldwin
Mr. Cain is absolutely right even though the truth doesn't sound pretty and may not be politically correct.
Our leaders must be loyal to Christianity and the Constitution because they are the foundation of America and the Freedom it represents.
People from all over the world dream of coming to America to gain Freedom and Dignity, not to bring their problems to us.
If U.S. Laws are not good enough, go back home. db, Ga
March 29, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
djhtex
I AGREE with Herman Cain 100%.
There should be no place in our government or legal system for any Muslim.
Like has been said on TV. I don’t hate them but we just don’t need them here.
Look what’s happening worldwide and wake up. It’s Muslims that are causing the problems. They mass kill each other in the name of their religion. What kind of religion is that?
March 29, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
Bill
I watched two Republicans demonstrate their complete incompetence to be President of the United States this weekend in Iowa. Cain, with this anti-Muslim statement was one. The other was Gov. Barbour, with his statement concerning pulling US troops out of Afghanistan because "we know there are less than 100 Al Queda members still in Afghanistan."
Yes, Gov. Barbour, the Al Queda has largely left Afghanistan, choosing instead lawless states such as Yemen and Somalia. We are in Afghanistan to prevent a resurgence of the Taliban, and thus prevent Afghanistan from again becoming a terrorist haven. We are still finishing the work started by President Bush, and cannot simply walk away from Afghanistan.
March 29, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
eric
look soon we forget it was too long ago that cain would've been in the same position as the muslims today.if he as a black man who supposedly knows about the evils of descrimination can descriminate,then he has no right to complain when anyone
descriminates against him.
March 29, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
georgia buckenroth
Way to go Herman! A man with the courage of his convictions! He already had my vote! Just one more reason to stand behind him!
March 29, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
Lexi Sargent
Anyone who would make a statement like that has no idea of what "sharia" law is, and is equally ignorant of our law-making process.
March 29, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
Cynthia
I am horrified by these individuals, whether Republican or Democrat, who have forgotten one of the fundamental reasons for the success of this country–that is the freedom of religion and the separation of chuch and state. It is sickening to hear individuals, such as Mr. Cain, make exceptions to these fundamental tenets of our democracy. It's interesting too, that Mr. Cain seems to forget where he came from. It was not that long ago that Blacks were not allowed to hold public office, vote, or even attend desegregated schools. Shame on him. It seems to me that there are a lot of Christian Republicans who want to degrade our democracy by eliminating the separation of church and state, and have a government controlled by the Christian Church.
March 29, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
Lahbib
Mr. Cain talks about Muslims like they are aliens from another planet. It's pretty sad to hear someone, who is supposedly "educated", talk like that about his fellow citizens who just happened not to share his faith. I would love to hear Mr. Cain define what "Sharia" law is! This term is bounced around loosely mostly as a scare tactic because nobody knows what it really means. We all know that he is trying to appeal to the hardliners who don't want Muslims in any government office. He seems to forget that there are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world; fastest growing religion, yet he talks about Muslims as if they are a small sect that has a contagious disease called "Sharia" law!
March 29, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
Josh Morgan
Mr. Cain's comments are filled with bigotry and radical ideology not suited for democracy. The only comment (used extremely scarcely) capable of pertaining to the truth: religion does not have a place in American politics. The GOP and center-right ideology consistently pushes legislation though under the guise of the Framer's intent. The First Amendment says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Though federal appointees are nominated by the POTUS and confirmed by the Senate, Cain's recent comments would cause serious implications for the appointment process. The Constitution prohibits discrimination through the 5th and 14th Amendments. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin. If only Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, (most likely) male individuals are appointed [by Mr. Cain], then the federal government would be violating its own policies.
March 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
SaveOurDemocracy
Potential Republican Presidential Candidate Herman Cain is just another Republican who does not respect the law or the constitution. On another note why a black man who comes out of a history of discrimination would openly and ignorantly endorse the practice of discrimination is beyond shameful. Martin Luther King must surely be turning over in his grave.
March 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
prince
I agree with him a hundred % and because there religion is hard fast and we heard what they say in US and UK that there law with fulfilled. we better be careful.
March 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
Mark
I totally agree with his comments, look at Egypt, Muslim are not yet in power but in three weeks they burn a Church in Helwan, enforced Sharia law on a Christian by cutting his ear off, kidnapped four young Christian girls forcing them to convert to Islam and just yesterday they threatened every woman in Egypt not wearing a veil to throw acid in her face.
Do you want this to be happening here in US?
March 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
B. Antczak
I think that it is silly that we "control" freedom of religion. If we like the religion, they can practice. Not all muslims are terrorists. Not all terrorists are muslim. In many countries, we are considered terrorists. They share half of our bible. They even like Jesus. They just don't think that he is the messiah. If another country somehow took over our country, which would never happen, and they oppressed christian, we would be having a fit! Our country was founded on freedom of the people; and that includes their religion.
March 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
S. Thomas
I agree with what Herman Cain said about not apppointing a Muslim to his cabinet or as a federal judge. Our country was built on Christian beliefs.
March 29, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
Rich Roberts
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Cain. Muslims do not belong in our Government nor do they belong in our Judicial system. We do not want their decisions to be influenced by their goals or religious beliefs. They have no business nor right to be a part of the American decision making process. It's one thing to have them living next door, which I am also not in favor of, and another to have them tell us how to live our lives.
March 29, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
Amir
After listening to the comments made by Herman Cain, I am truly disgusted. I am an american Muslim, born here and my mother and father came from Egypt. My father who is Muslim raised my siblings and I to respect all religions and came to this country because of its inherent freedoms, and wanted to raise his children where we could have all the advantages that this country provides. Muslims who come to America do not believe in this very dumb and very old "law", they believe in freedom and that anyone who works hard can accomplish whatever they dream of in this country. Not appointing a judgeship to someone just because of there religion is racist and should be condemned by any sensible American. Herman should recall that African Americans were subjected to many discriminations not too long ago, and as an african american, he should be ashamed of his misguided understanding of the many Muslim American all over this great country. What a shame this situation has become and I feel sorry for people like him.
March 29, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
Davis
When Muslims come into a country they are instructed to be peaceful and get along with the majority population. When they propagate and immigrate until they have a majority in an area everything changes. There are areas in France where the police DO NOT GO because it is so dangerous. Islam IS a religion but is IS ALdo a political ideology. What the hard liners want is rule by Sharia which denies representation to abused women and encourages the killing of those who leave Islam. There is no freedom of religion in their plans. You must realize that it isn't the nice Muslim next door that's the issue. It's the whole of Islam and those who really do want to push it down our throats and if we refuse, cut off our heads! There are mosques all over this country. How many Christian Churches do you see in Iran? Saudi Arabia? Don't compare Islamists who would like to kill you if you don't convert with Christians who are commanded to love even their enemies? I agree with Mr. Cain wholeheartedly. I don't hate Muslims. That doesn't mean I can see the danger to America that the propagation of Sharia law poses.
March 29, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
Dawson
It is a crying shame that muslems that have migrated to America make attempts and find loopholes in our system to force there buildings and so called religious beliefs upon us and Americans support them. Although we have different beliefs America is still founded upon Christianity. Why don't they embrace Christianity? What do they think about Christianity? Our country is giving in to being mingled with other religious beliefs and their ways of fashion. No prayer in our schools but they can wear thier clothing that hides them, but our children have to wear something that will not cause them to be rejected from school. How is it that the aliens born and raised in thier foreign country can come over and become head of the class? I never thought I would see the day that Americans would be fighting Americans over the rights of a religion we do not believe in. You can take the person out of the country, but you cant take the country out of the person. Look at what happened at Fort Hood?
March 29, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
Laura Crouch
I am surprised that an Afro-American, Herman Cain, would use the same kind of discriminatory remarks used against inclusion of those of his race into the American family. It is like saying: Blacks will use equal power to take over the American Government.
March 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
john
I agree with him a hundred % and because there religion is hard fast and we heard what they say in US and UK that there law with fulfilled. we better be careful.
This country was made because of Christianity and grow because of that reason now we are moving alway from it
March 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
Darien
Well I sort of liked this guy, Herman Cain. He seemd like he was clear thinking and had some good values despite being a Republican.
For any other Presidential candidiate to make a statement like that, it would be appalling but for an Afro-american whose race had been discriminated against for hundreds of years because of the color of their skins to make the statement says it all.
He says he would NEVER appoint a muslim to his cabinet or support appointment of one as a judge.
Well it's a case of the discriminated against showing his true 'colors' as a bigot discriminating against another race/religion. That should drive enough fear in just about everyone friend or foe, except fro the minority extremists.
Well: conclusion: he really is not serious about running for election so he figured 'what the heck' let it all hang out. Little does he know it may just ruin his whole career.
You would expect a statement like this from guys like Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant who are entertainers who are not trying to earn the favor of the electorate.
Thanks Herman for putting us straight so early in the game. One down 20 to go!! LOL
March 29, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
Dane Thorsen
I am confident. As long as the Unions are able to keep the Congressional Democrats in check, Obama will be able to put "boots on the ground' in Libya as soon as our fractured alliance crumbles. A long endless Vietnam style conflict will engender hopelessness and dispair in the American populace which will be a great boon for Obama in 2012
As we learned in California, the more hopeless and worthless citizens become the more apt they are to settle for anything with a D beside it's name on a Ballot.
March 29, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
Jerry
Herman Cain is right on target. Muslims are guided by the Sharia law so if a Muslim were to gain a position he must support the Sharia law and not the constitutional law of the United States. It is like appointing a Christian to a high office but there are two differences. This country was founded and is deeply rooted in the doctrines of the Christian faith. This has stood us well for the past 235 years. Honesty is a key tenant of the faith. Here comes the second difference for Muslims. Not only do they practice Sharia law but they also practice Taqiyya law. Taqiyya law permits and even encourages the Muslim faithful to lie in order to protect or further the cause of the Muslims. How can a Muslim be selected to serve in a high office when the laws he practices and the doctrine of lying to hide the ruth is so intertwined in their belief. Shariah is a law and if Shariah laws wind their way into our legal system then we will no longer be a sovereign nation. We would be subject to the rule of Islam and would no longer be a sovereign nation. We would be under the rule of Islam which is non American. One Nation under Allah.
March 29, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
cindy
Sadly he seems comfortable with the oppressed becoming the oppressor
March 29, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
Kaylynn
I thought discrimination based on religion was illegal, did someone change the law last night while I was sleeping? I am a proud ?uslim...what's next–a law that tells employers NOT to hire Muslims?
March 29, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
Brett Perry
As a young person in my late 20's i have known for awhile now that this country is but a shell of what it once was and what it could still be, but until now I have never been able to say that I was truly ashamed to be an American citizen. Between the documentary sunday night and Mr. Cain's comments, I am in absolute awe of just how prejudice Americans really are to things they don't even take the time to understand. Muslims and people of the Islamic faith don't hate us (or as many americans would say "want to kill us") because of our values or our freedom as many have convinced themselves... they hate us because of people and statements like the one Mr Cain made and the actions of the citizens of that small town in Tennessee that was the subject of the documentary aired on CNN Sunday night!... and to be honest I'm beginning to understand why and think they have good reason to do so! What happened to "All men are created equal"? or "Freedom of Religion"? I've come to expect these kinds of things from communities in the South (and maybe thats a bigoted remark on my part but you know what? It's the truth! I don't however expect to hear these kinds of things from a potential presidential candidate especially one of African American descent! Have you forgotten your history and what your ancestors fought and died for? Is this something they would be proud of? I don't think so!
As Americans we have come to use our fears and so called values as an excuse to show extreme prejudice against people who don't conform to our norms and i for one am absolutely sickened and ashamed by what we are becoming! The war on terrorism can only be won when we treat everyone as equals regardless of their beliefs!
March 29, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
cyndy
Sadly Mr. Cain seems comfortable with the oppressed becoming the oppressor (just replace Muslim with black in his comments)
March 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
Chelsea in Texas
When you are afraid that another religion will take over your own religion then you have already lost your religion. Jesus never would behave this way. This is nothing more than a radicalized Christian openly flaunting his criminal intentions. Religious persecution based on the fear of religious persecution is still just the same thing... Bigotry.
March 29, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
Mohammed
For anyone to say that a Muslim will be denial his right, even when he qualifies for it, is only absurd and it proved that the person does not believe in the American dream. A man's deed cannot be used to judge his community, the same way it is not proper to stereotype Islam or Muslims because of what a Muslim has done. Whatever happened to equality, fairness and transparency?
Unfortunately, Mr. Cain has proven to the American people that his intellect is limited and he is not a man that can/will represent everyone. He has shown that his principles will only benefit a sect of the American people, whilst the pledge still says 'with liberty and justice for all'.
This is not the type of political leader that we need for America to thrive, people like Mr. Cain will only cause more trouble and certainly he's not mentally, emotionally, and socially ready to accept everyone as they as. Mr. Cain can also say that he will not appoint anyone who is guy or bisexual to his cabinet. How just can that be to the American people?
March 29, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
eric
I agree with HERMAN, he is spot on with this one!
March 29, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
julius cronk
Mr. Cain is absolutely right......want proof go to youtube and see what Muslims are doing in France...it is a disgrace....
March 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
Gregg M.
No form of religious law should ever be a part of our judicial structure. This is a land of equal responsibility under civil law, and to disturb that will further create separate classes in our society. That is not the promise of the USA.
March 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
steve lansford
I agree with his comments 110%.
March 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
chris
Cain's comment re: Muslims and the cabinet or a judgeship is not only outrageous, it is also unAmerican!
March 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
Syra
Him being an African American should not even consider making such discriminatory and prejudice comments towards Muslims. It wasnt long ago that african americans were in the same boat. People thought they would infiltrate American society in a bad way and weren't given any important opportunities. Shame on you judge, I thought since you are a Federal employee vieing for job of President you might have had an education.
March 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
Dave "thebigmancat" Alpert
Why are we paying so much attention to individuals who have no chance of winning the Presidency or even the nomination? Cain, Bachmann, Rand Paul and the rest of them are a sideshow.
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Elise
I agree with Herman Cain. No muslims in our government, they don't belong there.
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Ed Fertik
Hermain Cain is brilliant and he is also correct on this issue. Anyone who thinks he is wrong is not familiar with this issue or Islamic culture.
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Robert in Tulsa
Herman Cain is RIGHT! This has absolutely nothing to do with religious discrimination, so don't waste my time whining.
Placing Muslims in our government is equivalent to placing Marxists, Socialists and Communists in those positions. ALL OF THEM are enemies of the United States Constitution.
Although Obama seeks out such enemies for his administration, it doesn't alter the simple truth and logic of the matter.
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Gino
I agree whole heartly with XENIA MARTINEZ AND Rev. Dr. Devi Nostrum. This country was founded on Christian principle and once we start to erode our values and principles with those of other cultures we will loose the identity of who we are and where we came from and the basis and foundation of our success. Although one of our founding principles is " Freedom of Religion" once that concepts starts to lead to an erosion of the values we were founded on, then its time to set up barriers against them. We cannot afford to bring into the US every different practice from around the globe and hide behind the freedom of freedom of religion veil. . If those coming to the US want to do so and don't like those policies then they the have the choice to leave.
I give Mr. Cain credit for standing up for his belief and principles.
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Dan
My wife and I agree with Herman Cain .
March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
Sam from CT
This is a non issue. Cain has no chance of a GOP nomination.
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
lin
REALLY?? SERIOUSLY? is this the people that "suppose" to be educated,well rounded professionals? Are these the people that we are going to put into leadership?? Again! REALLY? how power hungry is this guy? Well if thats his think..then lets keep out christians,catholics,jews,baptist etc..OMG! this is serious!!!!
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
J-P
let's get over the anti-race, anti-religion comments. Sahria law, that muslims follow, require them to support the Sharia law (not the constitution of any government they are a part of) – this is plain and simple – if a muslim takes the oath of office to protect the laws of the United Staes, then he/she (sorry HE only in this case) will be lying either to his religious law or to the oath he just took to the United States – they cannot co-exist.
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
Ayadi
His comments shows discrimination.I am a soldier and I faught for the freedom of our nation so people like him would n t say anything about Muslim.Also, does he mean that neither my kids nor myself has the right for certain jobs.In addition being muslim does not mean you have to practice Shariaa Law.He is so ignorant .Does not he know that there is plenty of Muslim country that does not practice shariaa LAw.
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
David
Exactly the type of statements that radicals seek to justify the hatred they spread.
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
Clayton
He'
s absolutely correct, we can learn from europe now or face a Islamic ideaology later! which is agaist our laws and freedoms like Shia law.
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
Scott
He's an idiot. No, Islam doesn't have a place in government but neither does any other religion. Should we just select atheists?
March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
peter Gaunce
I am not a Muslim, but I am sure that as Americans, they should be afforded the same rights as any other American. As for the gentleman in question, he has the right to his opinions. He is evidently not up on the Bill of Rights, and is not the type of American I would like to see in the highest post in the United States Government.
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
Janos Szablya
How can Herman Cain represent and swear to uphold the Constitution and deny people opportunity based on their religious belief?
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
TODD
WOW Someone actually wants to keep Religion and politics separate!! Especially a GOP Member!! Kick the Christians out too!! Religion is killing humanity!!
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
joshua
Herman Cain ..has just set the stag and opened up the dialogue on this , hot issue , its a concern globally and hes right on the hot issue
the problemo i see is america has to be stern , strong and not cave in to such , Sharia law ..is not what america ,britain and canada are formed from for family values and moral religious postions .
britain has a good grip on this issue imho , since ive heard they are in the process very silently of dealing with the onslaught of sharia law in some communites ....
we need a voice for us , the black folk had martin luther king , the white section and chrsitians have no one , we need to speak up and make waves
bombs dont work ,,,,masses work
joshua
hamilton ontario
canada
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
Michael Santiago
Someone should tell this guy to read Article VI of The U.S. Constitution wherein it states . . . There shall be No religious test to hold public office!
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
Shannon S
I absolutely agree. It's happening in Europe and it will happen here if we don't wake up and take back this country!! Let's not be so stupid as to think we are exempt. This country is making itself weak because we try to appease everyone else and not take care of our own. We give millions to other countries while we are going broke. Has anyone seen the ad on tv where it is set in the future and someone in China is giving a speech to students about how America fell and how we work for them? It will come to pass if we don't watch out!
March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
DanFinBrown
I could sit here and spend hours trash talking this guy, but I think I'll take the high road and simply call him a Morron. As a Soldier, we protect the rights of all Americans, including Muslim Americans. (Yes, they are AMERICANS) Cain doesn't want muslims in office or in our government, fine. I don't want him there either.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Bonnie Byrnes
I believe Mr. Cain is correct. Whether we embrace Christianity or not, our founding fathers were mosty (or all?) Christians and I believe U.S. law and governmental structure just cannot be "bent" to Sharia law. At least not and maintain the freedoms we have today.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Andy
The majority of the problems we have in this country come from lack of tolerance people have for each other and he is just adding to the problems.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Madinah
Allah do not force Allah's religion on no one. Allah say : you got your religion and I got mines.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Jared L.
Perhaps Mr. Cain, and others who claim that the U.S. must remain a Christian nation, are unaware that the U.S. ratified the Treaty of Tripoli in 1797. The treaty unequivocally states: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion . . ." This treaty with our MUSLIM neighbors was signed into law (treaties are law once signed and ratified) and has forever solidified our relationship with people of Muslim origins, like it or not.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Ayadi
He need to apologize for his comment and to back up if he want to be heard from Republican that has better value than him.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Eric Gebhardt
I completely agree with Herman Cain's statement that he would NOT have any Muslims in his cabinet. Hooray for him!! It's about time that real Americans speak up against Islam and its intention to dominate the entire world with Sharia. It is also about time that those who disagree with Mr. Cain's stance book a one way ticket OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
There is NO place in America for Islamic law. We are a secular republic. The separation of Church and State is fundamental to our way of life. Don't like it? Go live in Afghanistan.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Maania Rasooli
To deny a person access to their own government in any shape or form by ignoring personal merit and focusing on an individual's ethnicity or religion is not only un-American but un-democratic for a position such as Presidency that is in place to reflect the core values of ALL American people and is meant to anchor political and social justice. There could not be a greater disappointment to the American people should this type of language and philosophy be tolerated.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Michael
I and many others agree with Mr. Cain. Eventually, the muslim faith and muslim views would overturn or influence the change of American laws just so we can say America is not racist and is politically correct. This will be the beginning of the fall of the America that our fore fathers founded.
March 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
Bashir
It is a shame for a potential candidate for presidency to said that.It is because of people like him that Islamophobia is still going strong in the US.Not all the muslims are radicals and there is a big difference between culture and religion.
March 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
Lyz in MD
"no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
End of story.
March 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
ERIC
Let's face it. Countries are ran with religion in mind. This country was founded on Christianity, and no other religion, because of Queen Victoria forcing religion on the British. We have our own laws and don't want to change it for another religion's laws or ways.
If they don't like the laws we have, DON'T COME HERE, and DON'T TRY TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. We are not Iran, Iraq, India, Afghanistan, Japan, Middle East, or China, we are the United States. A country that God Blesses because of what we believe in and cherish. Don't come here and try to change everything. We don't want it. You want "Sharia" law, then stay and live where it is practiced. Don't try to force it on another country like the United States!
March 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
Jon
Muslims & Sharia Law, make Christian Fundamentalists look like Girl Scouts. If you wish to live a life without any individual rights whatsoever, then you should embrace Sharia Law.
They are the closest thing to the 'thought police" to come along in a long time...
March 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
Joel
Just another crack in the twisted, arrogant, republican idiology. This ( USA ) is a representitive form of government. That is why a Chinese person, Italian person, French, Jewish, Muslim, an immigrant from any walk of life can be President of The United States of America !
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
Niusha
It's sad to see a black man make such discriminatory remarks; It wasn't too long ago when African-Americans were facing similar discriminations, not priveliged with equal rights. If that was racist, how is this any different?
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
Tim
Great Job Herman Cain,
Now I know who I will be voting for Herman Cain.
I hope he takes the same approach with useless immoral, Godless liberals who always want a free ride off the government. Always someone else fault that they dropped out of school, and can not find a decent job. However, are unwilling to drive to improve their lives because those who do work own them for just being on the earth.
Liberals are so useless
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
Alonzo
I have little tolerance for men who want to hold political office and, at the same time, completely disregard the Constitution. He says that Islam doen't belong in our government, but the Constituion guarantees freedom of religiion. At the same time most Americans believe in the principal of separation of church and state; meaning we don't want a Theocracy in America, but we do want our leaders to be morally sound.
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
TODD
BTW all these people saying that our country is founded on Christian beliefs are DEAD WRONG.. They were not, Most of the founding fathers were atheist or non practicing in there religious beliefs. People came here to escape religious fanaticism and now christianity is just as bad as muslums and the rest of them THINK WITH YOUR OWN MINDS PEOPLE. JESUS AND MOHAMMED ARE NOT REAL !!!!
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
Mike C
Cain's comments show the unfounded and counter intuitive fears spreading through this country.
In a country where statues including the ten commandments are being removed from government courthouses and our FIRST amendment expressly forbids the government endorsing a certain religion, how could shari'a law possibly pose a threat to the US?
People like Cain should try talking to Muslims and finding out what they are really like, instead of demonizing them in an uneducated campaign of hate.
March 29, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
Earl Worick
Herman Cain is one of few who is on the right track and I would support him for his comments about Muslims above anything else. All of you sick Americans who believe that we should accept Islam in this country have no idea what the danger is. You need to educate yourself on what is happening to Europe by the influx of Muslims. I am also not a fan of Christians, but I am totally for keeping Muslims at a minimum in America. Most all politicians are blinded by their religion and they think every religion is OK, but Cain happens to know the difference which sets him above the rest.
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
megan
What has no place in our government is discrimination! Undoubtedly his ancestors (if not he) dealt with it at some point and it is shocking that he cannot consider the similarities. I am so tired of people recalling the supposed principles on which the founding fathers created our country. They were escaping religious persecution! Indeed, they were immigrants! Why do people ignore these facts?
Respectfully responding to an above quote: We are not Rome. We are so very different from the ancient Romans both of the Republic as well as the Empire. This is a question best left for Ancient Historians to discuss at parties for fun!
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
Larry
Hooray for him! The people of this planet have to wake up to the idiocy of the Muslim plague. We are born as human beings, and then brainwashed into being Muslims, Christians, etc. We don't exist without Sun and Earth, but we would do just fine without false prophets!
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
LSA
Yes, I agree with Mr. Cain. How many Americans are already having to deal with the screams from the minarets to pray to Allah. "Allah Akbar" actually means Allah is greater or greatest which is an obvious subjugation of Yahweh Elohim. It's absolutely true Muslims can and are very good people but the Islamic agenda is not compatible with the U.S. constitution.
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
Dave
He has the right to say what he feels, and since there is so much ambiguity within the muslim religion about their "laws" and "rules", why would anyone judge him on that. They need to tell the world what the hell their religion really stands for, because if you ask 10 of them, you will get at least 5 different answers. I agree with Herman, I wouldn't either. Look at Europe as an example of what it can be like here, they are too far gone to do anything about the muslim population explosion, and their influence on those countries. I don't want them taking over my country, and since we have a tendency to bend over backwards for everyone, lets avoid the whole issue if we can.
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
Rebecca
I totally agree with Cain and think we need more Presidential hopefuls like him! Why would we want to allow a Muslim to control our court system? Our country is slowly going down hill and if we do not stand up for our values and allow Muslims to take over, I'm afraid there won't be anything left of the U.S. as we know it.
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
Jepp
Isn't it funny how black politicians forget when the black man in America was feared, enslaved and segregated.
Blacks could not vote. blacks could not marry white people. Blacks were 3rd class citizens. Bigot were afraid blacks would take over the country.
Mr Cain you are an ignorant fear mongering idiot racist bigot.
Did you forget Timothy McVeigh was a "christian". Have you forgotten the white supremists in this country are devout christians!
Mr Cain you have the pea brain of a baboon. Read and memorize the 1st amendment and the 4th amendment. you baboon bigot.
March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
Bob Boland
I agree with Mr. Cain.. Why do all these Muslims come to this country if they do not like the present laws? Why do we have to change our present laws, our dress, and everything else to satisfy them.. When you hire a Muslim does he get time off to pray 5 times a day?
March 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
Kevin
Herman is just telling the truth. He wants to put the US Constitution first. He doesn't want to put someone in the Government that puts Sharia Law ahead of the US Constitution and I'm glad hes taking this stance.
March 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
DGrubbs
When we display some unity as a country, rather than the diffracted allegance to ethnicity or religion, and when we declare our desire to hold the nation more important than self (notice the distraction in Wisconsin where personal agenda and wealth is held higher than state) than by all means place Muslims in positions of power. Islam is silent on American values. They reach out when our power for right-thinking and -acting assists them against atrocities... we will see how our intervention is valued when Libya is liberated? When Islam publicly AND personally is decried for the violence it permits then they will have proven allegiance to righteousness and humanity.
I would not permit others, minority or majority, to act on God's behalf without my crying out against them. When Westbrook threatened to insert their ugliness here in SC just a couple of weeks ago many were ready to act. I was prepared to speak and act against their horrendous positions as it is inflicted on wounded families. When groups act with principles they have legitmate grounds to demonstrate. Again, the movement in WI was deplorable and certainly without much prinicple regarding ALL the constituents they serve.
March 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
Ajarat
When did being Muslim become synonymous with being Nazi or KKK? It's a bit of rude of him to speak of Muslims in that respect, if the Judicial system represents the American people and we have American Muslims then he is quite ignorant to make such a system. As a Muslim, I wouldn't want to work with a bigot like that either.
March 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
Chuck T
I think he is totaly rite, i love that someone has the balls tto say that, i never thout twice about muslims until the tower attack and i hate to be thout of as a racist cuz im not but. they've proven, not to be trusted because you can never know who is a true muslin that understands their real belifs or a sleeper cell just trying to get into our government< i was in the U.S.ARMY for 7 years and i understand that these terrorists are very patient, disaplind enemys...rite now they can not be trusted, until the bad ones aree gone.
March 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
Jill
Such restrictions have been overturned every time they are imposed on one group or another. We are moving toward an era of greater inclusion and more universal participation and we should not turn back.
I agree that this is an outsider trying to get some national coverage and CNN should not assist him by providing it.
March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
alia
im absolutely disgusted at herman cains comments! cannot believe we are experiencing this sort of discrimination in the 21st century. i agree with kaylynns comment, discrimination based on religion was illegal, how did he even get away with that comment?!
March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
Alonzo
I have little tolerance for men who want to hold political office and, at the same time, completely disregard the Constitution. He says that Islam doen't belong in our government, but the Constituion guarantees freedom of religiion. At the same time most Americans believe in the principal of separation of church and state; meaning we don't want a Theocracy in America, but we do want our leaders to be morally sound. I don't see how Islam could not offer the same moral base as Christianity, Judeism, or Buddism for that matter.
March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
Sharon Topping
Praise to Mr. Cain! The Koran tells and trains their people that they are the only religion and they are to turn all people to their religion and they are to destroy all other religions. This is the opposite to the values of our country. Come here, live here, work here but embrace the doctrine of democracy. We must protect ourselves and our wonderful values.
Thank goodness Mr. Cain has spoken out and thank goodness he is brave and not following this silly doctrine called, "political correctness.
Thank you, Sharon
March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
Robbie
Cain's pandering to the right is a new low in this presidential pre-campaign. Oh, how quickly this newly minted millionaire latched onto the issues of the right: lower taxes for the filthy rich and big business, exclusion of a whole group of people from Government, based on their faith, etc.
When an African American openly discriminates, it erodes the moral superiority of this group in world affairs.
March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
Lindsay
Anyone who says ANYTHING about Sharia Law being in America is going to LOSE! I bet he NEVER met a Muslim or anyone who had studied the regelion!
March 29, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
iman
Just exactly how do people think that Sharia law will become part of our law here in the US? Will the less than 5 million American Muslims (less than 3% of the total population) launch a coup d' etat and take over America imposing Sharia law or will the American people, through our firmly established system of democracy vote to amend our justice system if favor of Sharia?
March 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
Linda Roller
By denying a religious person to serve our government in whatever capacity that person is qualified, is the exact opposite of what Mr. Cain supposedly stands for. He says the Muslims are trying to take over our government? Are the Christians, Jews, Buddists, etc. also, trying to take over our government. This man is sick and in the worst racist way! He is in fact, bringing into the government, religion, which is Constitutionally separate and should not even be considered in whether or not a person serves his country. I am soooo tired of the fear factor that the right seems to feed on in this country! When will the American public stand-up and say ENOUGH?!!! As for defining the Muslim faith by interpreting it...these people have done a lot of harm. Do the Christians out there all interpret their religion the same? An eye for an eye? Good gosh...let's get rational and leave religion to a faith...not a government! This nation was founded on freedom of religion and separation of church and state....let's not forget that!
March 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
robert hopkins
I am a white male christian, I believe that all ethnic backgroungs need to be represented by the supreme court. Even if that means establishing a lower or higher type of supreme court to accomidate the amount of represenitives needed to represent all of the different people of the USA. If a supreme court justice lets say goes to a type of relious function,that would make them bias and not elegable to be a supreme court justice. This would take out the religious aspect of discrimination in the supreme court due to religion.
March 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
Wayne
It seems that Mr. Cain is the only Presidential hopeful, That knows the truth Re; Muslium's and their Goal's in our Nation! Thank God someone is awake in America! Bravo Herman
March 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
Emily F
The vast majority of Muslims do not want to institute sharia law- I may remind you that Christians do not live by all the rules laid out in the Bible.
As for the quotes from Sayyid Qutb, Ruholla Khomeini, and others- they are a few political extremists that do NOT represent Islam. You wouldn't want Muslims taking selective quotes from the Bible or other Christian texts and saying they represented all of Christianity, would you?
March 29, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
IknowYouhateMeBecauseImRight
Considering the human species has been around for so long, one would think we would ignore such terrible bedtime stories that organized religion has been feeding us for hundreds of years. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, all just clever schemes to rob the masses of rational thought. Christianity itself set progress back hundreds of years; the same can be said for all religions. Should people one day come to their senses and stop bickering over such trivial matters such as race and religion, perhaps we could leave this rock we call our earth and focus on the survival of the species.
March 29, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
Judy
Anyone remember when John Kennedy's being Roman Catholic was reason not to elect him president?
Mr. Cain probably would have been a Klan member 100 years ago if he had been white.
March 29, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
Karla
I look at Cain saying he would not have Muslims in his government and I feel so ashame for him. I just cannot believe a black man would stand there and say something like that. Can someone remind Caine that was us a few years ago. well I shouldn't be surprise he is a member of the rebublican party. stupid man.
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
James Vogeltanz
I think it wrong for a presidential Candidate Herman Cain to say that people can't of different religions should not be long in our government.
1 it is illegal to disqualify any person for a job based on religion, sex, and race.
2 the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that we have the right to fallow our own choice of religion and fallow it how we choose is fit as long as it doesn't hurt other people.
I will NOT vote for Presidential Candidate Herman Cain, who is clearly closed minded and only see the negative side of a religion.
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Tami
I agree with him and would vote for him, people in this country need to wake up. They are trying to do away with the religions which founded this country.
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Donna
This country is not just a Christian country just as it isn't one nationality, as it is not one political party. You and the rest of the republicans, the holy rollers of this country, who got us into this mess to begin with should not cast the first stone, it may come back to bite you!
Just as all black men are not criminals and all white men are not geniuses, not all muslims are terrorists.
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Kate Thomas
It isn't about being separatist toward them. They don't believe in separation of church and state, so there is no way for them to reconcile with our laws legislatively.
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March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Wayne
Republicans and tea partiers complain about "creeping Sharia Law" in the government cannot, if asked, name one example of this happening.
When a politician talks about how bad Muslims are they are just trying to scare the public into being afraid of every shadow.
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Carl L. Harding
If the US outlaws this Muslim sharia Law then I think it would be ok for a qualified Muslim to hold any office in the US. But we must outlaw this oppressive law now before it is too late!!
Boss Harding
March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
Mike W
I agree that Sharia Law has no place in our government. Neither does Christian Law, Jewish Law, Buddhist Law, or Hindu Law.
March 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
Ace
Well, after listening to this dude and also watching "Muslims, Unwanted in America" documentary on CNN last Sunday, it appears that black Americans are in the forefront of this bigotry against Muslims in America in general. This whole simple issue about Muslims' desire to build places of worship is being turned and twisted by both democrats and republicans in a way that is only inticing anti-Islam sentiment in this country. Reality is that many Americans are brought up to dislike and hate Muslims. Many Americans are also very narrow minded that includes almost all of the politicians. But when I hear bigotry from African Americans, it tops it all off. Are these people stupid enough not to realize that had it not been for Martin Luther King, they would still be picking cotton somewhere in Georgia or Alabama in schacles???
March 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
Michael B
The problem is the majority of americans are not familiar with the muslim faith which states for muslims to kill any and all infidels in the name of god and they will find a place in heaven. Infidels would be anyone who is a non-believer of the muslim faith. For those muslims that say we dont follow that muslim law, how can they choose which ones to follow and not. That's hypocritical!. What about the muslims who do follow their faith to the "T"...scary!
March 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
Okie
Not politically correct, but absolutely correct as a policy. It shows he understands the danger of Sharia Law. It is also evident that anyone who openly voices this view will be villianized by the media as scary right wing, republican who thinks religion is more important than politics. The truth is that it is the Muslims who think religion is more important than the constitution of the United States and wish to impose sharia law to supercede it. Preventing this from happening is what Cain is talking about, and many Oklahomans support this effort and passed a law forbidding sharia law. But the courts issued an injunction against the will of the people of Oklahoma.
March 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
Johnny Boy
Herman Cain is a well spoken American and extremely knowledgeable of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights and you will always know what his position is and I would support his efforts as a canidate for President of our country.
March 29, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
Truth-Bomb Thrower
RIGHT ON, HERMAN!! Nice to hear there is still a little bit of common sense out there. Islam is NOT a religion. It is a twisted political ideology that depends on ignorance and tyranny in order to survive and grow. Anyone who subscribes to it is morally and intellectually unfit to govern others. It is the natural enemy of our country and our way of life. All of our greatest presidents would agree with you if they were here.
March 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
Adam N
Comments like these always remind me of two things:
1) We as human beings are still a primitive species and fear will always control us unless we recognize this and overcome it. We can do this with simple education
2) Religion has reached its expiration date in the timeline of rational intelligent human beings. Its dangerous and divides us as humans
March 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
Dave
Just another bigot. Thank God, he has no chance of winning. Where exactly in the constitution does it say "Only Christians can hold government positions"?
Oh I forgot, constitution is only relevant when it suits these extremists.
March 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
JEremy
correction conservatives should not have a place in our government and their radical beliefs and religion should not be allowed to influence our laws
March 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
Leonard Lang
From the viewpoint of those currently livibg under Sharia Law, I failed to see the benefits
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
Marcia Everett
Hmmm, does this mean we can keep Christians and Jews out of office too? Maybe we can have world peace after all.
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
Will
I am pretty much a radical liberal when others label me, but I agree with Mr. Cain that Sharia creep is a real phenomenon and there should be one law for all people. There is no valid argument for cultural accommodation to Muslims to break the law of the land to impose medieval practices.
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
Ajarat
Malcolm X was an American Muslim and he died so Cain could have the audacity to run for the position he is in today. Was his death in vain?
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
Ken Canadian
so, he wouldn't support a man such as Mohammad Ali a devote Muslim I do believe that he has been for more than twenty years...
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
Jon
"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) expressed outrage on Monday, saying Cain's words show how "right wing" conservatives are currently engaging in Muslim bashing."
And when is the last time you heard the Muslim majority in the US condem ANY jihad style activities in other countries? They will publicly condem any threats in the US; when pressed for comment...
Is it any wonder why they are not respected? They secretly admire
the killing of "ifidels", (ANY non Muslim) show me the passage in the Quran that speaks of respect for other religions and tolerance for different points of view and then show me the members of Islam who actually practice it, and have any influence in the Muslim community; in other words: does anyone in their community actually listen to them?
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
James
Hello People separation of church and state!!! No one will ever be able to incorporate sharia law into our constitution. Grow up and live by our constitution and values: STOP DISCRIMINATING!!
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
sophie
If everyone thought like Cain African Americans would probably still be slaves, it's truly disgusting.
March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
sarah
what is the difference between having a Muslim in a place of decision compared to having a Christian? the choices are to be made based on the constitution not on a religion! so the religion of someone should not matter!!! what happened to separation of church and state?
March 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
Joe Cortez, San Francisco, California
A comment like this scares me only because it signifies the level of ignorance (or shall I say flat-out "studpidity") that runs rampant within the American Electorate. Maybe Alexander Hamilton's fears had solid foudation. The Constitution of the United States of America shall remain the supreme law of the United States of America until the United States of America is no more. Sharia Law shall always remain a fantasy in this county because of it. Comments like Mr. Cain's are only geared toward tapping into that large segment of the American electorate who doesn't understand this - and who should turn in their voter registration cards because they put many more lives at risk with their voting stupidity than with their drivers licenses. This, I'm dismayed, is the same segement of the US electorate which elects and re-elects a George W. Bush, brands President Obama/Hillary Clinton as "Socialist" for trying to make basic health care an "American RIGHT," and who, in reality, cannot stand having a Black man in the White House! All of this is what will doom America, not Sharia Law or Liberal government.
March 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
Allison
These comments come from ignorance. First, our country was founded on separation of "church and state" meaning a separation of religion and government, so it shouldn't matter what religion anyone in government practices, only that it remain out of our laws. Secondly, our founders were escaping religious persecution when they came to America, they would be appalled by the people today persecuting Muslims.
All of this fear and ignorance comes from people not having the competency to actually do a little fact finding and research on their own, rather than listening to news stations that thrive on ratings and therefore throw around outlandish accusations and feed people propaganda, daily. Formulate your own opinions and beliefs rather than listening to those of others.
Cain is a bigot. Period. This is quite ironic considering he is part of a group that quite recently received rights in this country. Have we not learned anything from our history? Equal rights doesn't just apply to whites and blacks, it applies to all.
March 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
iman
It wasn't long ago that Catholics were viewed with the same ingorance. If we elect John Kennedy the Pope will be our de facto President.
March 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
don
Really an afro american saying such a bigoted statement shows how ignorant this man is and should not be offered the highest job in our land. shame on him.
March 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
sama
If Mr. Cain’s statement slightly changed to replace the word ”Muslims” by “Jews”, you would realize how racist these remarks are. Each religion has its teaching and laws, and Islam is no different than Christianity or Judaism.
March 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
Brett Perry
Just another quick comment in response the one left by XENIA MARTINEZ. That states this country was founded on beliefs and principles of christianity and thus should remain as such. My friend you couldn't be further from the truth... this country was founded by people seeking religious freedom and to really hammer that statement home I'm going to give you a few quotes from some of our most beloved founding fathers and believe me when I say these are EXACT QUOTES.
John Adams wrote "This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it."
Benjamin Franklin who was deeply opposed to all organized religion once published an article in his newspaper that stated it was his firm belief that "Lighthouses are more useful than churches".
And finally Thomas Jefferson himself wrote, and i quote "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
So my point is this, does that sound like our founding fathers were seeking to build a christian nation? Or a nation based on any religion for that matter? It was Jefferson himself who wrote the declaration of independence that clearly states "All Men are Created Equal"! He didn't say all christian men are created equal!
Know your History my friend and be proud of it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
March 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
Nicholas
I agree w/ Herman and than some... I love the God of creation and I serve Him according to faith in the Son of God by the revelation of His Word and the seal of the Holy Spirit! MUSLIM FAITH IS NOT based on truth, IT IS NOT through the One true God, there is only lies and deception rooted in it, and therefore it stems from the enemy of our soul, Satan the liar, murderer, and thief. I believe our country needs to recognize the living God and put Him first in our government and heart, then we could actually fight effectively against the things we have no knowledge or understanding of. For anyone who thinks that Herman is wrong in his statement, your free to hold your opinion and an opinion it shall remain. For anyone who disagrees w/ my statement, my prayer and hope is that you know Christ!
March 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
Glenda Wexler
How many Muslims support anti Israel and anti semetic policies?
In a recent demonstration in NYC against the Saudi miiitalry action in Bahrain, they called for the the Saudi's to attack Israel. Isn't it time we addressed the religious political and philosophic aspects of Islam that sustains not only anti-west but anti Israel and anti semetic tenents.
March 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
Bret
I truly can't believe the islamaphobia in this country. I am a 19 year old college student from the northeast, and call me naive, but I believe terrorists commit acts of terrorism, not Muslims. True, the terrorists who committed the ghastly acts on 9/11 were all muslim, but so what? Out of the more than one billion muslims in this world, it is unthinkable that a group of less than 25 could band together to perform those attacks? Why are we so scared of letting non-christians (Muslims in particular) into government? There aren't one billion crazy whack-job Muslims. There are a handful, I'd wager less than a thousandth of a percent. I can absolutely guarantee that there are as many whack-job Christians as there are Muslims, just look at Westboro Baptist Church or the Branch Davidians. I know that 9/11 was a scarring day for this country, but don't you think its enough punishment to bear the shame of know that members of your religion did that? It would be as if your brother murdered somebody in cold-blood. You can't punish an entire 1/6th of the world, for the actions of so few. A Muslim might be the next great political philosopher. And it's not like a bill labeled "Sharia Law for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" would make it past the House anyways. Quit being bigots.
March 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
Jim
If I can believe the clip as posted and not distorted I would say Mr. Cain is correct. I'm from Canada , multi culturalism is OK as long as it doens't take over your heritage as it has in Canada . We no longer have our own true identity , the beliefs we were founded on are being eroded. It is considered offensive to stand up for your christian heritage in the workplace, it will be held against you. I'm a bigot if I stand up for my faith , but muslims can slander any and everything they want and unless I accept it I'm a bigot .
Unless they wholeheartedly accept your constitution and laws don't do it . Don't allow Sharia Law to creep in .
America WAKE UP , don't let your country become like Canada.
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Frank
This just shows how uneducated people are, where did all this shria law garbage come from? When he spoke it just showed me that Mr. Cain is not so bright. I bet he does not even know what it is, there are many different interpretations of it around the world. Also what makes it different from evangelicals & southern baptisits chrisitians that want to replace the U.S Costitution with there bibels laws. Plus last time I looked the U.S Constitution makes it impossible for any type of religious laws from taking over. It would never happen & it will never happen.
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Andy Bekele
Agree with Herman therory 100% Muslim religion is one of a kind. There is no other religion that believes "may way or highway". If they take control of our government, they will ultimatly wip-out everyone, I mean everyone that refuses to be Islam. This is not discrimination. This is about protecting our civil right that allow us to belive or don't believe in anything, and that no one should tell us how and who to worship.
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Bill
Give me a break, the ignorance expressed here by some is just obscene. Yes government should not be influenced by religion, e.g. ANY RELIGION. So extend your bigotry to intelligence. If you don't want a known Muslim in government then you must take that stand for any Christian, catholic, baptist, and Evey other flavor of religion.
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Rick
There was a time in history when the Romans didn't allow Christians into government because their religous beliefs would make them weak leaders. I spent a significant amount of time in Muslim run countries and have many friends who Muslim, and these are honest, sensative creative individuals with a high sense of integrity. Our country can only lose when we won't allow Americans to participate in our government soley based on religion.
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Trevor
Mr. Cain's statements are appalling. Sharia law is used by conservatives as a way to scare people and is not understood at all. I would love to see Herman, or anyone else who uses Sharia as an excuse to discriminate Muslims, actually define it. And in response to Jerry, Taqiyya allows a Muslim to lie about their faith in order to save themselves from prosecution, not to further the "cause of Muslims."
March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
Liz
Help me understand how people can honestly support this? Did we find out the religion of Timothy McVeigh who blew up the Federal Building in Oaklahoma and discrimate against his ethnic and/or religion?
So does this mean we will now punish all Catholic's for the priests who have molested children over the years? What is next??
Just amazing and the real disgusting thing, there are others who will support and want this to really happen.
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
Matt
Okay so basically what Herman Cain is basically saying is that no one with a religious affiliation should be allowed to have a position in office. So Christians should not be allowed to be in office either because they would be influenced by their religion in decision making...yeah sounds dumb doesn't it? Separation of Church and State and equal opportunity or hypocrisy, Herman Cain has chosen hypocrisy and is more anti-American than those he wants to leave out.
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
Joel
The freedom fighters ( rebels ) fighting for their dignity & freedom against an oppressive, ruthless regime lead by Khaddaffy has bogged down just outside the city of Serte. This is where it is going to get interesting. The rebels might have to infiltrate Serte & Tripoli one rebel at a time and use a form of guerilla warfare. It could take the form of a battle of attrition untill the rebels can overtake Khaddaffy!
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
Poonam
Can you imagine an American politician saying "I would never hire a Jew to a governmental post or a judge-ship" ? Would we be expressing opinions and blogging about this? Would he still be in office, or tearfully apologizing in shame? Just the fact that this politician's statement about Muslims is even entertained demonstrates how hollow American "ideals" have now become.
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
Bret
@Xenia Martinez I'm sorry, but you are starkly mistaken. The majority of the founding fathers weren't Christian. Get your facts straight
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
Ashley Levine-Bogosian
I find it interesting that in one breath Republicans accuse Obama and the Democrats of acts in violation of the Constitution, and stating that the founding fathers are turning over in their graves due to these acts. Then in the next breath, they are spouting such nonsense that "sharia law somehow is taking over in America." I have some advise for these Republicans... Read the Constitution, and more specifically the First Amendment.
In the first line of the First Amendment states...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
In other words, it was the wishes of our founding fathers as stated in the Constitution that no one in government will ever be able to legally impose ANY religion or facet of a religion upon the masses here in America.
March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
John W. Baker
Mr. Cain needs to re-read the first Amendment.
It prohibits the establishment of a national religion, such as Sharia law, which Mr. Cain opposes. But it also prohibits the establishment of religious tests for public office, such as Mr. Cain says he would favor.
Conservatives should quit trying to break down the barriers between church and state, then they wouldn't have to worry about others abusing it.
March 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
Harry Davis Jr
President-elect Cain would get my vote. And I pledge to campaign for him and send money to any election campaign he might decide to engage in. God Bless America, American like jerry and Down with "shariah!" It is UN-American! Protect Your Rights paid for with the blood of Our Fathers.
March 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
Amelia
I believe Herman Cain should run for President with thoughts like that. To allow Muslims in our government is a slippery slope that we do not want to go down. I also do not believe this is discriminatory to a religion as Muslims live under sharia "law" and that "law" is nothing like the "laws" in the United States. Muslims want Sharia "law" in their own communities and this should not be allowed to happen. If they want to live in a Muslim community with Sharia laws they can live in those countries that allow it, not here in the U. S.
March 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
David Evans
Herman Cain is pandering to the truly ignorant among us. That this corporate exploiter of undercompensated labor can gain political traction from fear-filled workers is evidence of that ignorance.
March 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
Nabeeh Mustafa
Herman Cain is a "negro" who has studied little of what muslims practice or believe. He is being motivated by money or arm twisting by an unseen force who thinks this is the best way to attack what could turn out to be an opportunity for positive dialogue. He is simply a mouthpiece for someone who chooses to stay behind the scenes and pull strings.We're getting hip to this b.s.
March 29, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
William Martin Jr
How ridiculous!...This is one poor excuse for any candidate....yes Im Muslim....This is religeous discrimination to the fullest..just because a person is muslim doesn't mean that they are not an american and doesn't want the same peace..progress, and the best for us...(US) in America..I wouldn't impose something that America doesn't Agree with...This already shows his Ignorance Abroad to the nations....What a Coward to use such an excuse for his push...I could've been one to vote for him..but Muslim or not...Dont want things to get worse but greater for America...I already feel the hate everywhere I go...the only place for us in America is nowhere...I wish I could leave and never return here..I rather be in a place where there is Equality...America isn't it...Islam is Peace..But we suffer for the Ignorance of others on both sides....I pray that America wakes up...open thier Eyes...we been here all our life...Im no terroist but I get treated like one...this hurts...Id rather die with my brothers and sisters than to be around these pea brain ignorant..low budget...aint use to nothin people..I thank Allah for those christians who i've eaten with..broken bread with and share love peace and happiness with..Subhan'Allah..Thanks Ali for giving me a chance to share my thought...thx CNN God bless you All
March 29, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
polkovnik
What part of the Constitution's Article VI, section 3 don't Cain and his bigoted ilk understand? "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
March 29, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
warren packard
Our forefathers came over here from England on the Mayflower to establish a country based on their political and religous beliiefs. We were founded as a christian nation. There were no Muslims on the Mayflower because Muslims are not Christians.
March 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
Jim
I agree with Mr. Cain. Muslims have been trying to get exceptions affecting only them and not abiding by the social rules and laws of the USA. The US already has laws covering choice of religion and free speech. Decades old psychological warfare focuses on "the best kind of victory is one in which you never have to fight"; and "The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives." If Muslims, or any other people/group, don't like our ways and laws, then they need to return from whence they came.
People are taking the true meaning of our constitution out of context to benefit a few outsiders. The best way to overpower and change a country/people is to manipulating them to your beliefs/ways; hopefully the true US people wakeup before its too late.
March 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
kathleen mulley
i also thought it was illegal to discriminate against the religon or race in the USA so glad i live in CANADA where we do not discriminate or ever in our history have. i thought you were a free country with civil laws that protect all american freedoms from oppression i guess i was wrong thank all gods of all religons i am CANADIAN.
March 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
Lrice
Do we really want a president who will lie when he takes his oath of office and will follow only the part of the constitution that he believes in? Our forebears came to this country for Freedom of Religion. This is not YOUR religion it is ALL religions. The separation of church and state protects ALL of us.
March 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
Michael Roepke
Cain said that "there is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government." Perhaps he is right, but shouldn't we be even more concerned that there has also been an attempt to force Christian doctrine into our laws and courts. Perhaps we should not appoint Christians to these important post as well, even if they are Christians who believe in seperation of Church and State.
March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
Danny
Since we don't want to have other religions (other than Christianity, of course), should we not allow Catholics to become members of government or the judiciary system, as they must obey the word of the Pope? Should we also bar Jewish citizens from those types of positions because their holy text is different from Christians?
March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
Arish Hashmat
I am a student from Canada and i m glad we dont have any racisim like America over here. I am proud to say that Canadian people choose to educate them selves about muslim religion and sharia law unlike Americans where they just want to discriminate .
March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
Sofia
Correct me if i am wrong , but does the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the EEOC not mention that discrimination based on Religion (a protected class) is illegal? What's next? No Jews in the Government? Hindi? Buddhist? For that matter how about no Atheist either? Let's grow up please this is not the play ground at elementary school
March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
Sam Mustafa
Mr Cain i would like you to show me your copy of the constitution that says only christians are protected under the first amendment and i will show you my copy that says a black man can't run for office.
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
Christian T.
Actually this country was founded by men who disdained religion and believed in seperation of church and state. In fact, there are many quotes from the founding fathers that stated this :
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." -Benjamin Franklin
"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst." -Thomas Paine
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
– Thomas Jefferson.
This is a lot like when Kennedy was elected and the U.S. panicked.
So may i ask what religion has to do with office? Give me a jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim president anyday so long as he's the best man for the job. Did W's Christian Faith benefit us? So long as you're a realist who looks at fact you'll answer No.
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
Gabriel
Didn't people say that "President John F. Kennedy if given the presidency would bow to the Pope as apposed to the constitution." Did that happen? The answer is no he did not. He was Catholic and the minority of the time in the nation. So to say that anyone based on religion would put religion ahead of loyalty to state and country is ridiculous and bigoted.
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
don
to allow a muslim to be in our government is not possible and should never be !!!! They live by Sharia Law and would never make a fair and non discriminatory decision as their religious beliefs dictate their life style. It is the same as having a Catholic priest in government, he could not make a non discriminatory decision either, he lives by his religious beliefs. Stop crying and belly aching liberals, please see the light !!!!!
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
james t goza
Finally, a politician with guts to say how he feels !!!!!! Way to go Herman.
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
John
So many of those against Muslims in government cite Sharia Law as a main reason for their opinion as Mr. Cain does. What many in the American and non-Islamic public don't understand is that Sharia law is not written and its interpretation differs across the board, very similarly in the way that Christian laws and rules of religion differ across the board. For example a Catholic will interpret Christian law differently than a Methodist, or a Baptist. It is therefore foolish to think that allowing Muslims in government is going to Jeopardize our Constitution. This issue is nothing more than one of ignorance and discrimination, just just in the case of Mr. Cain, but across America anywhere where people are concerned with an Islamic presence.
I encourage the American public to try to step across the line once, think about what they would say if these events were occurring in an Islamic country and concerning a Christian minority. What would you say then?
March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
Kevin
This reminds me of history when people were worried about JFK being elected because he was Catholic and would take orders from the Pope. Saying that any and all Muslims elected would try and impose Sharia law upon us is as ludicrous as well. Sure, there may be a few, but every, single one of them? Get real.
March 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
Charo1022
I personally and sick of this religion being shoved down our throats. No matter how you cut the mustard this religion is oppressive towards women. I don't want the freedoms that so many women like me have worked so hard to attain over shadowed by what really goes on behind the scenes. As a traveler to many muslim countries. I for one an not impressed by the way women and children are treated. I want me and my daughters to be able to tell any man anytime, anywhere to kiss my you know what because I can. Enough said
March 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
Dave
Don't let "political correctness" cause the end of America. We are already on a dangerous path, and losing more of the America that my grandfather fought for in WWII everyday. Please stop 'selling out' our country.
March 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
JOHN JARRELL
I understand the impulse by many to down- play any harm coming to this country because of islam. I believe this is a mistake however well intended. There is no place in the koran that teaches tolerance for other religions and that sets it apart from all of the major religions that the west is familiar and comfortable with. islam is insidious in that it seems inoccuous but iis in reality a wolf in sheeps clothing. i agree with Mr Cain. Just because we want to be friends doesn't mean we have to live together. We need some talking points that aren't all or nothing.
March 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
Observer
Why does it not surprise me that whenever something is going on in a Muslim country, Non-Muslim American's try to attack the Muslim's in this country and try to make a connection with those Muslim's. It is clear to see that it is not that non-Muslim people do not like Muslim's because they think they are all terrorist but because they are scared. Muslim's are no more of a terrorist than the Christian's, Moron's I mean Mormon's that go into other country's a slaughter men, women, and even children. But I guess the American way as it has always been, claim that America is the best country there is while killing innocent people elsewhere and even innocent people within our own land. My point is that not all Muslim's are the same, just like not all Christian's are the same. If the people of this country who are trying to point out all Muslim's, you best be careful that you are not creating a War with God himself. Remember, while you are judging others God is judging you.
March 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
J Harrison
As a christian and an African American, I am amazed at the cynical views of my fellow Christians brothers and sisters whose ancestors beat, killed, maimed,brutalized, and condemned citizens of African decent and made the same bigoted comments when it came to our freedom here in America. It is love not hatred that brings us together and not the biased opinions of the people who probably can't tell you the name of one Muslim that they know.
March 29, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
Anna Luhman
Ali;
Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution says clearly that there shall be no religious test for any office in the U.S. Mr. Cain and his other right wing religious companions need to read the Constitution. Everyone, no matter what religion or no religion may serve this nation! It seems these people only believe in the Constitytion when it serves their twisted purposes. It might surprise Mr. Cain and others to learn that the Koran Thomas Jefferson had, was given to him by a Muslim friend.
March 29, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
Todd
I am a proud Canadian and support the decision of Cain on not allowing the Muslims to have any position of making the rules and laws that govern these great Nations. The Muslims have their own agenda which is to get world control and force their religion and beleives upon others. If in power they can force us to become Muslim and if we refuse it is their beleif that all non beleivers shall be killed.
The United States and Canada are both Christian countries, we have welcomed other cultures with open arms into our great Nations and allowed them to continue with their own religion and beleifs. It is only the muslims that are trying to force us to change the way we have always been.
In Canada they are attempting to force us to not wish a Merry Christmas or to celabrate the birth of Christ,trying to force us to Change our National Anthem because we have the word of GOD in our song "God keep our land glorious and free" and are trying to force us to remove the crosses from our military graves as well as the prayer for our brave soldiers.
When are we going to stand up for our rights and our Beleifs?
I am a proud Canadian, I am a Christian and proud to stand beside my brothers and sisters of the U.S.A.
March 29, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
sophie
It's scary how fast this anti-Muslim movement is happening in America, first the trials and now this. All he doing is spreading hate and widening the gap between the Muslim world and America.
March 29, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
Neil Bowe
Yes, we see the danger of Sharia law. So when do we wake up and see the danger of the Christian fundamentalist that are trying to take over the country, its really no different the than the tyranny that Sharia law brings to the table
March 29, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
LHG
People seem to not want Muslims making political decisions in the US government based on their faith. That is in the fullest keeping with the wishes of this country's founders. How is it that no one seems to care when Christians or Jews make political decisions based on their faith? Though many of the founders held Christian beliefs, they were objective and intelligent enough to separate church and state. I do not want ANYONE in MY US government making a decision based on their faith. Religion is a very personal thing. One person's religion should never be of any concern, to anyone. -LHG
March 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
Baca
Has everyone become so blind with political correctness. IF we as an american went to any other country, we would be expected to live their culture and follow their laws and rules and most of all speak their language. They would not change their ways for us, we are in their country. We are one of the greatest nations ever, but how much longer will that last if we continue to allow these changes. This is America not America and whatever country you still have ties to.
March 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
Jeanne Hill
I have 2 agree no muslims in gov. Their thoughts with the religion is too different from Chrisitianity. This country was built on Christ. Not an idol. It would be too hard 2 move ahead for arguing. They try to bring others into their religion. Americans who KNOW Christ know He is real and don't have time 2 argue. We need to spend time bringing souls to Him as they try to the idol. Jesus loves ALL souls but in the business of government there are enough problems there because either side is not asking the Father to lead them for the people of this country and being greedy selfishly. How much prayer is there in gov.? How much study is there from Genesis to Revelation in gov.? Still no muslims or any other religion than Christ believers in government.
March 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
Anika Laird
I absolutely agree it does NOT belong in our government.I am greatly distressed about the situation in our government Don't people see that Muslims use our freedoms against us.This is their mission to infiltrate every area of society so that in the end the wole nation is islamised because remember in their eyes if you are not a muslim you are an infidel like us jews and christian whom they proudly call apes and pigs
March 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
Kat ThatOne
For one thing, to the person that said America was build on Chrisianity... Go read up on your true history my dear because you are very wrong. Before America was invaded (Like we are doing to other countries as we speak) The main religion was that of the American Indians. Which was NOT Christianity. Religion comes from "religare," which is to bind, or have union with, etc. so humans throughout our history have been seeking this union. Our Right as an American Citizen, (Whether you are originally from another country or not) is to chose whatever religion that we want. So, How can you now discriminate against religions? We might as well, bring slavery back too... how about anyone who isn't a Christian be banned from the USA??? I mean really!!! Your talking about extreme measure!? Its bad enough that EVERY Muslim gets blamed for anything that an extremist does! Maybe we should start airing all Religions bad sides! How about Everytime a husband kills his wife and kids we let the world know; "And they were Christian"... God Bless Us All Cause We Are DOOMED!!!!
March 29, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
Sherry
WaKe up you INFIDELS!!!!!! This has nothing to do with discrimination!!!! It has to do with the Muslims taking over our country and replacing our laws with Muslim laws as they are doing in Europe!!!! Do you know what SHARIA Law is? Better get your head out of the sand and do some research.
The Muslim's are gradually creeping their way into our society and trying to change our laws. Obama has appointed several Czar's that are Muslim.!!!!!
Hermann Cain is a very sensible man and absolutely right. He has done his homework.. I suggest each of you do the samd.
March 29, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
Michael Santiago
Let me clarify my previous post . . . Someone should tell this guy to read Article VI of the U.S. Constitution wherein it states, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
March 29, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
Karine
This comment is very sad. Most Americans dont even know what sharia law is. Yes, in less advanced countries in the middle east, sharia law is used to justify radical behaviors but many middle eastern governments are secularized like, like mali, turkey, and kazhakstan. It sould not matter whether one seeking a cabinet position is catholic, jewish muslim, buddhist, hindi or anything because our constitution proclaims equality to all and freedom of religion there for this belief is unconstitutional and ridiculous. i cant believe this man is representing our country. American Muslims are just that, AMERICAN and america is their home. The rules that apply to them are the same that apply to other Americans and sharia law goes by culture and everyone know that sharia law is not generally accepted by American Muslims in the way that it is in certain middle eastern countries. American need to remember what this country stands for. I have many muslim friends and can assure you that none of them are trying to take over the American government with Sharia law. Most americans dont know the first thing about Islam and dont know that, it truly is a peaceful religion. People are lumping all Muslim's as radical extremists and this is just wrong. I really hope America smartens up and learns about this religion and what its truly all about so that this issue doesnt become a repeat of the racism experienced in the 20th century with African Americans.
March 29, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
Abi
A lot of people do not understand that Sharia makes it mandatory for a Muslim to respect and abide by the law of the country in which he or she lives in, whether Muslim or not. Islamic law is followed only in predominately Muslim countries, and does NOT apply to non Muslims living there. And no, it does not repress women. AND it forbids anyone to be forced into Islam. In fact it forbids the mistreatment of anyone, whether Muslim or not.
As for women’s rights, that is a whole discussion, because they are countless, I don’t think I have heard anywhere that a woman would be allowed to work and have the choice of spending her money on her family or keeping it for herself. In Islam the burden of spending on the family is strictly on the man. However, most Muslim women choose to help out with house expenses. As for head covering, it is completely up to the woman, and she cannot be forced into it.
All these misconceptions we here about Islam here are not true. And I think before we repeat what we hear, we should verify the information from Muslims themselves, not bigots. The church in Egypt was burnt down by the old regime consisting of NON practicing Muslims that want to create havoc to destroy the revolution. Let’s not forget, it was the Egyptian soldiers that rebuilt it. That is what the sharia calls for. Let’s not judge a whole race on the actions of a few. If we start taking away people’s rights, then we are no better than any terrorist whether a Christian, Muslim, or a Jew.
March 29, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
Lesley
To single out one group as "a bunch of terrorists" is just uneducated thinking and dangerous. It should not be represented nor tollerated in our government – a government which is responsible for deciding the rules and rights of our country.
March 29, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
hugh
I feel he is right on target. I am proud to hear that this man stands up for what he believes and not what some other person believes is or is not politicaly correct. Political correct is not what should determine the truth or what this country should stand up for.
March 29, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
Karen
Herman Cain is way off base. Religion of any kind should not be in government. So by his own reasoning let's ban the extreme Christians from pushing their agendas(Let's face it they do). The Tea Bag Party/Republican is an extreme faction shoveling their religious beliefs into legislature. Martin Luther King/Abraham Lincoln and our funding fathers are all turning in their graves.
His disrespect of his fellow man and blatant bigotry offends any decent human being.
Perhaps he should declare himself God while he is at it?
March 29, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
Michael Roepke
Cain said that "there is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government." Perhaps he is right, but shouldn't we be even more concerned that there has also been an attempt to force Christian doctrine into our laws and courts. Prayer in schools and Creationism taught in schools are but two examples. Perhaps we should not appoint Christians to these important post as well, even if they are Christians who believe in separation of Church and State.
March 29, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
Avi Salam
Mr. Velshi,
Islam, as interpreted and practiced by all major sects/denominations today, is uncivil, non democratic, and in-humanitarian!! Until a new interpretation/sect of Islam is born, in which equality between men and women, ending in-humanitarian punishments (stoning, amputation, etc.), and recognition of separation between religion and state (end of political Islam), are established and embraced, Islam should not be allowed to seep-through into our government.
Do you know of any religion in the world, other than Islam, that has not been evolved/re-interpreted, at least once, for more than a thousand years?
March 29, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
Robert in Tulsa
Herman Cain is RIGHT! This has absolutely nothing to do with religious discrimination, so don't waste my time whining.
Placing Muslims in our government is equivalent to placing Marxists, Socialists and Communists in those positions. ALL OF THEM are enemies of the United States Constitution.
Although our Dear Leader seeks out such enemies for his administration, it doesn't alter the simple truth and logic of the matter.
March 29, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
Sadness
These pro-discrimination comments are both agonizing to read and hilarious, if you can have both. It seems many repubs think our country was somehow founded on Christianity, when in fact, the opposite is true. Our country was founded on freedom, not on the imposition of Christian beliefs on all citizens (remember separation of church and state). It's no wonder President Obama keeps talking about funding and reforming the American public education system if this is the kind of ignorance it's producing (unless these misconceptions and bigoted attitudes are coming from the home schooled).
Remember the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797? It said:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion . . . "
The founding fathers sought freedom from christian oppression in founding the U.S., and were, themselves, mostly deists.
You have to love it when Christians are fear-mongering about having Islamic beliefs foisted upon them, while they work daily with vengeance to prevent equal rights for gays and to remove women's rights to reproductive autonomy and decent health care based on nothing more than their own tyrannical Christian religion. What hypocrites! Government does not belong in the religion business, period.
March 29, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
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Herman Cain is 100% right! The key word is "Sharia". Americans have no issues with the religious aspects of Islam. However, political Islam (Shariah) is a supremicist totalitarian ideology that has NO place in our government, schools, military, our judicial systems or our financial institutions.
So-called civil rights organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, the MSA and 20+ other groups are merely fronts for the Muslim Brotherhood. The FBI recently severed all ties with CAIR. Apologists need to read "The Moslem Mafia, "The Grand Jihad", "Shariah, the Threat to America" to name a few documented books covering the threat of radical Islam.
Political correctness is for fools.
March 29, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
Cynthia
actually, this country was founded on ESCAPING the christian church. But I do understand, they hide this type of information in such hard to find places as history books, so we'll forgive your lack of knowledge on this matter. And before you sit here blaming muslims for violence......more people have been killed in the name of christianity than any other cause or reason in history. Anybody recall teachers mentioning such things as The Crusades, The Dark Ages maybe?? The muslim faith may have been hijacked and used by those who seek to control others, but it's far from being the first, and won't be the last. And the reason this is happening has nothing to do with muslims and everything to do with one simple fact.....LACK OF OPTIONS. Ever wonder why this only happens in certain places? Lack of education, protection, jobs, money...options. Get off your high and mighty. Peter King and Herman Cain are good examples of what's wrong with this country, but uninformed cattle (public) who can't be bothered to learn about issues and form their own opinion, and instead just parrot the opinions of others, are however a great example of what's wrong in this country. You'd think those posting on a cnn site would be more informed, and would be capable of making up their OWN minds. Or at least an original thought from time to time.
Maybe, just maybe, we should be asking WHY american muslim are capable of being radicalized in the first place. Maybe being treated the way they are.....by their neighbors....might have something to do with what's going on.
The sad part is, this is all being used as a smokescreen.
March 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
Kimmy D
I applaud Mr Cain for being on the ball. The fact that he is Afro American and has been discriminated against speaks volumes.
Look anywhere in the world where they are a Majority and you'll see human right violations and violence. What you won't see is Churches or Temples. They have zero tolerance for anything that is NOT Muslim. Their plan is to immigrate and procreate to be able to have the numbers needed to change a democratic society. That is their plan -quite brilliant but very scary for the rest of us.
March 29, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
Danny
Non Muslims under Sharia Law do not allow other Religions in their Governments within Islamic States. Sharia Law does not allow Muslims to be equal to other Religions but must those other Religions must be submissive to Islam. Where Sharia Law is embedded, here in the U.S or the U.K. no other Constitution will be allowed to be imposed within those communities in that host country..Under Sharia Law, Muslims are commanded to be superior to all other Religions. I live in a small community in the U.S, I get all my information from Scholars who know the Quran and invite anyone, including Dr. Jassar to come on and enlighten moderate, or reformed Islamic beliefs..The truth always comes out....www.abnsat.com
March 29, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
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Pope would take over the US government if John Kennedy was
elected. Thankfully, enough people realized this was not true,
that he was elected. Now there is the same dumb fear about
Muslims. Does the past never teach us anything? Apparently not.
March 29, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
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The day you break that promise you'll be America's enemy #1. America will no longer be America and all constraints of peaceful protest and assembly will be eliminated by you're self a traitor. America will be spelled "Libya" and it will be done deliberately to overthrow the U.S..
Then you will also be an antichrist enemy of God who had used America to promote faith in His Son as a "priest nation" and a light unto the world, the last light, and the last light and friend to Israel. "Then a great warlike assembly of nations with the symbol of a bear, will send its arrows from as far the heavens and utterly burn and destroy that Golden Cup of the Lord, with the symbol of an eagle, in an hour's time, never to be inhabited again, as an utter desolation".
Next to Judas you'll will be the most infamous traitor in future history and responsible for the cremation of maybe 300 million Americans.
That's more than Stalin, Hitler, and Mao combined. If not you some ungodly mongrel president will do this be he Rep. or Demo..
So if you are really a patriotic American not only don't do it you're self, but don't let any other traitor's who will take the office and oath do it..
March 29, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
Cynthia
One other question....if a muslim cannot serve in government (there is no seperating the person's faith from their job?) then we need to keep all christians, jews, hindu, etc from the government as well....who would run our country? I guess the christians will have to turn over the country to only those of us who are atheist or agnostic. And the irony of a black man touting the VALUE of discrimination, Martin Luther King must be clawing his way out of his grave to hunt down Mr Cain. And god himself must be preparing to rain down vengence on those who claim to be christian.
March 29, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
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@Abi... Thats a GREAT way to put it!!! And Sherry... REALLY??? LMAO!!! No one is trying to implement Sharia Law on anyone here in the US... That sounds Soooo ignorant!!! People need to open their eyes and quit listening to peoples opinons as to the reality of situations! Why -ASS U Me- things? It Should NOT MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU PREFER!!!! Are we Not ALL Human beings trying to live Peacefully in this Dreadful World!!!
March 29, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
Brett Perry
Correct me if Im wrong but aren't christians supposed to follow a code of religious law of their own? We hear radical republicans mention adding the ten commandments to the constitution all the time. Yet how many elected official in Washington or anywhere else can honestly say they don't lie, steal, covet, disobey their parents, bare false witness, or even kill. In some way shape or form just to get elected or during the course of their term in office? So call me crazy but saying that a person of islamic faith can't serve as a hight powered public official without trying to take over our government with sharia law is just a little bit hypocritical.
Maybe it's time for the people in this country with half a brain to look at what is going on in the rest of the world right now and have the courage to stand up for what is right and take our country back from the bigoted religious fanatics that have already seized control. Christian extremest are the real threat to our freedom and democracy.
What we have become, is not the America our forefathers fought and died for
March 29, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
Cynthia
This is america, founded on a constitution and a bill of rights....we may not always get things right the first time we try....but we're meant to be guided by the constitution and bill of rights....anybody remember any of this....ALL MEN CREATED EQUAL, seperation of church and state, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND RELIGION........look at the words you're saying.....it's not the muslims who are unamerican.....it's ALL OF YOU!! And you wonder WHY a FEW american muslims have been open to being radicalized.....because en-mass they have been oustricized, villianized, been beat up, told they are both unwanted and when attacked will be unprotected and undefended.....how would you feel if you were treated the way they have been???? And what would you then do with your pain and anger??
MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL START ACTING LIKE AMERICANS....instead of what's been going on....which is the most anti-american behavior I've ever seen in my life (for the slower members of the class, the anti-american behavior is coming from the rest of us, NOT from the muslims)
March 29, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
Cynthia
we are talking about a group of young americans....most of them little more than boys....who have been turned into the most hated group in america....when you were 19 or 20 years old was there anything that kept you from being part of the cool kids in school???? maybe you wore glasses, or maybe you were the short kid, the fat kid, the slow kid, even the smart kid in class....maybe the popular kids were the rich kids and you weren't one of the kids who had all the newest clothes or toys, maybe you sucked at sports.....whatever it was, most people, at some point in their life, didn't quite fit in......maybe your parents got divorced....or maybe you were just the new kid in school.....just about everyone has felt that pain to one degree or another at some point in their life....we're all trying to teach our kids about bullying, and how it's wrong.....BUT WHAT OUR KIDS ARE SEEING IS THAT IT'S OKAY TO BE THE BULLY, that it's fine to actually TORMENT other people.....JUST SO LONG AS THAT PERSON IS A MUSLIM.....kids are smarter than you give them credit for....and a lack of knowledge seems to be a viable defense somehow......maybe WE are the ones who need to go back to school....because this is NOT AMERICAN,PERIOD
March 29, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
Cynthia
so let's cut school funding even further.....maybe everyone will forget what this country once stood for
March 29, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
Muhammad Ali Morocco
I truly can not understand the remarks of Cain. How can you hold awhole race/nation accountable for the acts of one or afew. If Cain want to take action on those who done harm in the U.S then his fight isn't with Muslims, his fight should be with American's... His ancestors was slaves & Muslims didn't do that... If we hold every Christian accountable for the acts of the KKK that wouldn't be right! Infact Cain should check his history & see what country was the first to even recognize American as a country.... YES IT WAS A MUSLIM COUNTRY (MOROCCO)........
March 29, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
Abdullahi Mohamed
I dont believe what he is saying. What is wrong with muslims being part of the U.S Government. I am a 11 years old muslims and I dreamed of being in the U.S government most of my life. If we are going to apply the shariah law here in the U.S why dont we just do it elsewhere. On top of that Idont remember anything about a Muslim mentioning anything about applying the shariah law in the U.S. We know the constatution and are normal citizens just like anyone else living in the U.S. I dont think Hermen Cain is saying that becuase he is scared Muslims are going to apply the shariah law in the U.S, I think he saying that out of ignorance and racisem. If pursues with his belief than we might as well not vote for him in the 2012 election.
March 29, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
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I had posted a comment earlier in this strain, and upon reading further comments by other users I am both inspired and embarrassed. I am inspired that, in a time of growing intolerance and ignorance in this great county, there is still a large number of Americans who know do not display these tendencies. I am very happy to see that a large number of people do not live in ignorance, who head the lessons that history has taught us (or who pay attention to REAL history and not the history MANUFACTURED by certain CHRISTIAN fundamentalists), and who will not allow the rights that America is founded on to be tarnished.
However, I am extremely sad, angry, and embarrassed, to read comments and hear comments in daily life that show a population of Americans filled with intolerance and ignorance. It is this population who truly, and completely, make me SICK to be associated with them as an American, a country that I have grown up to truly love.
March 29, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
Clyde
Re: CNN Special, "Unwelcome – The Muslims Next Door".
Your broadcast presents only one side of the issue, that being the Muslim's rights.
Why don't you also show what happens when they get a foothold in a community. Dearborn Michigan is a good example of that. Back in about 1960 Dearborn was a white basically Christian Community. Today it is the largest Muslim community outside of the middle-east. The Muslims have totally taken over that city. If you go down Michigan Avenue, the main street, all you see is Arabic signs on the store fronts. Long term, second and third generation, non-Muslim families who have lived their whole lives in the same house are threatened every day. They have even been told, "we want you to move, you don't belong here". The University of Michigan Dearborn Campus has installed a Muslim foot washing station and prayer facility while denying rights to religious organization to Christian students. It appears that the Muslims want their rights and Sharia law to replace those of others and want all others to conform to the Muslim way.
You should modify your broadcast to show both sides of the issue.
March 29, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
Muhammad Ali Morocco
I truly can not understand the remarks of Cain. How can you hold awhole race/nation accountable for the acts of one or afew. If Cain want to take action on those who done harm in the U.S then his fight isn't with Muslims, his fight should be with American's... His ancestors was slaves & Muslims didn't do that... If we hold every Christian accountable for the acts of the KKK that wouldn't be right! Infact Cain should check his history & see what country was the first to even recognize America as a country.... YES IT WAS A MUSLIM COUNTRY (MOROCCO)........
March 29, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
COMuslim
Arrogance in ignorance is predominant among the Islamophobes on this posting as is fear of of the unknown or partially and wrongfully known which in this case is sharia law. It is sharia law that says one must follow the law of the land. The law of the land here in the US is the constitution and that is what most law abiding Muslims follow. To base Sharia law on the actions of the Taliban and extremists is analogous to basing the US constitution on the actions of Army Spc. Jeremy Morlock and his criminal gang in Afghanistan. Both the Taliban and Army Spc. Jeremy Morlock represent wrongs of an overall friendly ideology and a system of laws that keeps our great nation, the USA, successful
March 29, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
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I am an Egyptian/American who has lived in Egypt for 19 years. I would like to comment on what is going on with Muslims in America. First, I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with most Muslims, however, there is something extremely wrong with Islam. The essence of the religion (contrary to what many Muslims say) preaches war and violence. If you are Muslim and try to convert to another religion, any Muslim would be allowed, by law, to kill you. This is not only uncivilized, barbaric but also gives the religion an unfair advantage of expanding while suppressing other religions around.
Since the Egyptian revolution many people (about 25%) want Sharia law taken out of the constitution. There have been votes recently in Egypt to reform the constitution. A prominent Sheikh called for a religious Jehad if article 2 of the constitution was changed or removed. This article states: 1) Egypt is Muslim (I ask: how can a country have a religion)?.2) That the law in Egypt must be based on Shria law. Egyptian Christians would likely be slaughtered if this article was reformed. America should be very concerned with the advancement of Islam in the US. Look at all of the Arab world....Every country is ruled with an iron fist by a dictator. That is not a coincidence, Islam does not mesh well with democracy, or freedom.. of any rights. Christians (or any other religious group that is not Muslim) are treated as second class citizens. I know this first hand as I am a Coptic Egyptian...... And Egypt is one of the more moderate Islamic countries. Finally, just to get this straight, Shria law is not just something that is implemented in a constitution, it is a way of life for all Muslims who practice Islam. I know I paint a bleak picture but that is the truth of the matter....and I write this as a very liberal person.
March 29, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
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If Sharia Law were ever allowed to be practiced in America does that mean I will be beheaded because I reject their beliefs and I am and always will be a christian?
March 29, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
warren packard
I believe in Jesus Christ not Mohammed. I worship God not Allah
March 29, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
Joe
I'm all for separation of church and state and keeping religion out of politics. BUT, I'm also against putting anyone in a government position of authority or responsibility whose religious philosophy supports killing those who disagree with them, subjugation of women, etc. You don't see Christians, and Jews killing people all over the world and espousing hatred .... over the past ten years every atrocity has been committed by a radical MUSLIM. Period.
March 29, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
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Wow!
Theres nothing discriminating about protecting the freedom of
speech,Values and Traditions we all get to enjoy in the Free,Western Civilizations Like Britain ,Canada,and the United States.We've all faced the hatred towards our value's and freedoms by so many Nation's.One only need turn on a T.V. or read a paper and learn. Islam Ideology DOES NOT ALLOW ASSIMILATION. Dont be fooled by people trying to pretend this is a religeous issue ITS NOT!
"Islamism" is a Totalitarian Ideology. Like so many before it . "If thier way of living through the Koran is so wonderful ", why do they flock westward for a better life ??? Hmmm
March 29, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
Liz in CA
Diversity is an important goal in a U.S. administration, and the U.S. Consitution will protect our laws from religious influence. It's true some European countries have had issues with politcal correctness creating seperate Muslim communities which now may undermine those countries' systems of government. All the more reason to have a diverse administration; an administration of reasonable voices representing all people of different backgrounds, whether racial or religious or gender or sexual orientation, that are part of the U.S.'s dynamically diverse population, to create an antidote to extremism anywhere, including the disconnected extreme Muslim groups in Europe.
March 29, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
Mark
@ Abi, March 29th, 2011 3:18 pm ET
• Why it is too difficult to get a permission to build a Church in Egypt?
• Why the Bishop in El Minya still prays in a tent!! Yet there is a mosque in every corner in Egypt.
• Why Muslims besieged a Church in Pashteel and prevented Christians to pray last Sunday?
• Why Christians received threats to demolish a church in Bany Ahmed Village in El Minya and Muslims prevented the completion of additional building belong to the Church? Muslims also threatened kidnapping of the Copts and their daughters and their wives.
• Why last week Muslims terrorised children while they were attending Sunday School at Virgin Mary and St. George Church in Embaba, Giza and prevented the priest from entering the Church?
• Why Sister Mary Rageb, a nun, is in prison now?
• Why Fr. Abd El Maseh El Baseet went to prison? Is it because he spoke freely on TV?
• Why last week Madline Esam, 18 year-old girl was forced to convert to Islam?
March 29, 2011 at 11:57 pm |
Sam
Mr. Cain is 100% correct. Just read the comments of all the Muslims here, they certainly rest his case.
March 30, 2011 at 1:04 am |
Ray
I learned all I wanted to know about Muslims by their complete silence in condeming the murders commited on 9/11 by their fellow "god is great" killers. The last thing we need in this country is for them to infiltrate our government.
March 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
Nina Fox
I agree with Cain, Sharia Law does not belong in our government… What Cain seemed to miss or did not clarify was that ALL religions do NOT belong in our governmental process. Herman Cain mentions the first amendment and the freedom with expression of a religion. He is correct! One of the focal points of the first amendment is freedom of speech and “separation of church (all religions) and state”
March 30, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
John C
Many of the posters in here should be ashamed.
First, We already have Muslims serving in political office in this country right now defending the laws of this land.
Secondly, There were Muslim Prayer Rooms in the World Trade Center, so they lost something to.
Our Founding Fathers were NOT mostly or All Christian, many did not belive in Christ at all. Some were Deist, Agnostic, Atheist, and many questioned the divinity of Jesus Christ. Look up Ben Franklin.
Ray, many Muslims did comdemn what happens and many of the extremeist that are caught are turned in by other Muslims that love this country.
Clyde, Sorry to bust your bubble, No Sharia Law in Dearborm Michigan as well. That lie was started by 4 idiots that decided to try to hand out bibles at an Arabic Festival. As the four were being Arrested for Disorderly Conduct the stated the Police were enacting Sharia Law. Even the Mayor of Dearborn wrote a letter to Sharon Angle telling here she was lying. BTW Muslims make up 2% of Dearborm Michigan.
Lastly Discrimination and Bigotry is still Discrimination and Bigotry whether you add God's name to it or not.
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It's a slippery issue. The First Amendment guarantees the American the RIGHT to believe as they will. Religion is protected...fiercely.
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Islam also has a problem. While the extremist and terrorists are a very, very small portion, they do exist. Suicide bombers and beheadings in the Middle East are performed by Muslims; there are no Jewish or Christian suicide bombers anywhere, and thus the argument CAN be made that there is something specific to Islam that allows for extremism and severe violence. But should it? I can't answer that for sure...
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descriminates against him.
Way to go Herman! A man with the courage of his convictions! He already had my vote! Just one more reason to stand behind him!
Anyone who would make a statement like that has no idea of what "sharia" law is, and is equally ignorant of our law-making process.
I am horrified by these individuals, whether Republican or Democrat, who have forgotten one of the fundamental reasons for the success of this country–that is the freedom of religion and the separation of chuch and state. It is sickening to hear individuals, such as Mr. Cain, make exceptions to these fundamental tenets of our democracy. It's interesting too, that Mr. Cain seems to forget where he came from. It was not that long ago that Blacks were not allowed to hold public office, vote, or even attend desegregated schools. Shame on him. It seems to me that there are a lot of Christian Republicans who want to degrade our democracy by eliminating the separation of church and state, and have a government controlled by the Christian Church.
Mr. Cain talks about Muslims like they are aliens from another planet. It's pretty sad to hear someone, who is supposedly "educated", talk like that about his fellow citizens who just happened not to share his faith. I would love to hear Mr. Cain define what "Sharia" law is! This term is bounced around loosely mostly as a scare tactic because nobody knows what it really means. We all know that he is trying to appeal to the hardliners who don't want Muslims in any government office. He seems to forget that there are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world; fastest growing religion, yet he talks about Muslims as if they are a small sect that has a contagious disease called "Sharia" law!
Mr. Cain's comments are filled with bigotry and radical ideology not suited for democracy. The only comment (used extremely scarcely) capable of pertaining to the truth: religion does not have a place in American politics. The GOP and center-right ideology consistently pushes legislation though under the guise of the Framer's intent. The First Amendment says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Though federal appointees are nominated by the POTUS and confirmed by the Senate, Cain's recent comments would cause serious implications for the appointment process. The Constitution prohibits discrimination through the 5th and 14th Amendments. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin. If only Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, (most likely) male individuals are appointed [by Mr. Cain], then the federal government would be violating its own policies.
Potential Republican Presidential Candidate Herman Cain is just another Republican who does not respect the law or the constitution. On another note why a black man who comes out of a history of discrimination would openly and ignorantly endorse the practice of discrimination is beyond shameful. Martin Luther King must surely be turning over in his grave.
I agree with him a hundred % and because there religion is hard fast and we heard what they say in US and UK that there law with fulfilled. we better be careful.
I totally agree with his comments, look at Egypt, Muslim are not yet in power but in three weeks they burn a Church in Helwan, enforced Sharia law on a Christian by cutting his ear off, kidnapped four young Christian girls forcing them to convert to Islam and just yesterday they threatened every woman in Egypt not wearing a veil to throw acid in her face.
Do you want this to be happening here in US?
I think that it is silly that we "control" freedom of religion. If we like the religion, they can practice. Not all muslims are terrorists. Not all terrorists are muslim. In many countries, we are considered terrorists. They share half of our bible. They even like Jesus. They just don't think that he is the messiah. If another country somehow took over our country, which would never happen, and they oppressed christian, we would be having a fit! Our country was founded on freedom of the people; and that includes their religion.
I agree with what Herman Cain said about not apppointing a Muslim to his cabinet or as a federal judge. Our country was built on Christian beliefs.
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Cain. Muslims do not belong in our Government nor do they belong in our Judicial system. We do not want their decisions to be influenced by their goals or religious beliefs. They have no business nor right to be a part of the American decision making process. It's one thing to have them living next door, which I am also not in favor of, and another to have them tell us how to live our lives.
After listening to the comments made by Herman Cain, I am truly disgusted. I am an american Muslim, born here and my mother and father came from Egypt. My father who is Muslim raised my siblings and I to respect all religions and came to this country because of its inherent freedoms, and wanted to raise his children where we could have all the advantages that this country provides. Muslims who come to America do not believe in this very dumb and very old "law", they believe in freedom and that anyone who works hard can accomplish whatever they dream of in this country. Not appointing a judgeship to someone just because of there religion is racist and should be condemned by any sensible American. Herman should recall that African Americans were subjected to many discriminations not too long ago, and as an african american, he should be ashamed of his misguided understanding of the many Muslim American all over this great country. What a shame this situation has become and I feel sorry for people like him.
When Muslims come into a country they are instructed to be peaceful and get along with the majority population. When they propagate and immigrate until they have a majority in an area everything changes. There are areas in France where the police DO NOT GO because it is so dangerous. Islam IS a religion but is IS ALdo a political ideology. What the hard liners want is rule by Sharia which denies representation to abused women and encourages the killing of those who leave Islam. There is no freedom of religion in their plans. You must realize that it isn't the nice Muslim next door that's the issue. It's the whole of Islam and those who really do want to push it down our throats and if we refuse, cut off our heads! There are mosques all over this country. How many Christian Churches do you see in Iran? Saudi Arabia? Don't compare Islamists who would like to kill you if you don't convert with Christians who are commanded to love even their enemies? I agree with Mr. Cain wholeheartedly. I don't hate Muslims. That doesn't mean I can see the danger to America that the propagation of Sharia law poses.
It is a crying shame that muslems that have migrated to America make attempts and find loopholes in our system to force there buildings and so called religious beliefs upon us and Americans support them. Although we have different beliefs America is still founded upon Christianity. Why don't they embrace Christianity? What do they think about Christianity? Our country is giving in to being mingled with other religious beliefs and their ways of fashion. No prayer in our schools but they can wear thier clothing that hides them, but our children have to wear something that will not cause them to be rejected from school. How is it that the aliens born and raised in thier foreign country can come over and become head of the class? I never thought I would see the day that Americans would be fighting Americans over the rights of a religion we do not believe in. You can take the person out of the country, but you cant take the country out of the person. Look at what happened at Fort Hood?
I am surprised that an Afro-American, Herman Cain, would use the same kind of discriminatory remarks used against inclusion of those of his race into the American family. It is like saying: Blacks will use equal power to take over the American Government.
I agree with him a hundred % and because there religion is hard fast and we heard what they say in US and UK that there law with fulfilled. we better be careful.
This country was made because of Christianity and grow because of that reason now we are moving alway from it
Well I sort of liked this guy, Herman Cain. He seemd like he was clear thinking and had some good values despite being a Republican.
For any other Presidential candidiate to make a statement like that, it would be appalling but for an Afro-american whose race had been discriminated against for hundreds of years because of the color of their skins to make the statement says it all.
He says he would NEVER appoint a muslim to his cabinet or support appointment of one as a judge.
Well it's a case of the discriminated against showing his true 'colors' as a bigot discriminating against another race/religion. That should drive enough fear in just about everyone friend or foe, except fro the minority extremists.
Well: conclusion: he really is not serious about running for election so he figured 'what the heck' let it all hang out. Little does he know it may just ruin his whole career.
You would expect a statement like this from guys like Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant who are entertainers who are not trying to earn the favor of the electorate.
Thanks Herman for putting us straight so early in the game. One down 20 to go!! LOL
I am confident. As long as the Unions are able to keep the Congressional Democrats in check, Obama will be able to put "boots on the ground' in Libya as soon as our fractured alliance crumbles. A long endless Vietnam style conflict will engender hopelessness and dispair in the American populace which will be a great boon for Obama in 2012
As we learned in California, the more hopeless and worthless citizens become the more apt they are to settle for anything with a D beside it's name on a Ballot.
Herman Cain is right on target. Muslims are guided by the Sharia law so if a Muslim were to gain a position he must support the Sharia law and not the constitutional law of the United States. It is like appointing a Christian to a high office but there are two differences. This country was founded and is deeply rooted in the doctrines of the Christian faith. This has stood us well for the past 235 years. Honesty is a key tenant of the faith. Here comes the second difference for Muslims. Not only do they practice Sharia law but they also practice Taqiyya law. Taqiyya law permits and even encourages the Muslim faithful to lie in order to protect or further the cause of the Muslims. How can a Muslim be selected to serve in a high office when the laws he practices and the doctrine of lying to hide the ruth is so intertwined in their belief. Shariah is a law and if Shariah laws wind their way into our legal system then we will no longer be a sovereign nation. We would be subject to the rule of Islam and would no longer be a sovereign nation. We would be under the rule of Islam which is non American. One Nation under Allah.
Sadly he seems comfortable with the oppressed becoming the oppressor
I thought discrimination based on religion was illegal, did someone change the law last night while I was sleeping? I am a proud ?uslim...what's next–a law that tells employers NOT to hire Muslims?
As a young person in my late 20's i have known for awhile now that this country is but a shell of what it once was and what it could still be, but until now I have never been able to say that I was truly ashamed to be an American citizen. Between the documentary sunday night and Mr. Cain's comments, I am in absolute awe of just how prejudice Americans really are to things they don't even take the time to understand. Muslims and people of the Islamic faith don't hate us (or as many americans would say "want to kill us") because of our values or our freedom as many have convinced themselves... they hate us because of people and statements like the one Mr Cain made and the actions of the citizens of that small town in Tennessee that was the subject of the documentary aired on CNN Sunday night!... and to be honest I'm beginning to understand why and think they have good reason to do so! What happened to "All men are created equal"? or "Freedom of Religion"? I've come to expect these kinds of things from communities in the South (and maybe thats a bigoted remark on my part but you know what? It's the truth! I don't however expect to hear these kinds of things from a potential presidential candidate especially one of African American descent! Have you forgotten your history and what your ancestors fought and died for? Is this something they would be proud of? I don't think so!
As Americans we have come to use our fears and so called values as an excuse to show extreme prejudice against people who don't conform to our norms and i for one am absolutely sickened and ashamed by what we are becoming! The war on terrorism can only be won when we treat everyone as equals regardless of their beliefs!
Sadly Mr. Cain seems comfortable with the oppressed becoming the oppressor (just replace Muslim with black in his comments)
When you are afraid that another religion will take over your own religion then you have already lost your religion. Jesus never would behave this way. This is nothing more than a radicalized Christian openly flaunting his criminal intentions. Religious persecution based on the fear of religious persecution is still just the same thing... Bigotry.
For anyone to say that a Muslim will be denial his right, even when he qualifies for it, is only absurd and it proved that the person does not believe in the American dream. A man's deed cannot be used to judge his community, the same way it is not proper to stereotype Islam or Muslims because of what a Muslim has done. Whatever happened to equality, fairness and transparency?
Unfortunately, Mr. Cain has proven to the American people that his intellect is limited and he is not a man that can/will represent everyone. He has shown that his principles will only benefit a sect of the American people, whilst the pledge still says 'with liberty and justice for all'.
This is not the type of political leader that we need for America to thrive, people like Mr. Cain will only cause more trouble and certainly he's not mentally, emotionally, and socially ready to accept everyone as they as. Mr. Cain can also say that he will not appoint anyone who is guy or bisexual to his cabinet. How just can that be to the American people?
I agree with HERMAN, he is spot on with this one!
Mr. Cain is absolutely right......want proof go to youtube and see what Muslims are doing in France...it is a disgrace....
No form of religious law should ever be a part of our judicial structure. This is a land of equal responsibility under civil law, and to disturb that will further create separate classes in our society. That is not the promise of the USA.
I agree with his comments 110%.
Cain's comment re: Muslims and the cabinet or a judgeship is not only outrageous, it is also unAmerican!
Him being an African American should not even consider making such discriminatory and prejudice comments towards Muslims. It wasnt long ago that african americans were in the same boat. People thought they would infiltrate American society in a bad way and weren't given any important opportunities. Shame on you judge, I thought since you are a Federal employee vieing for job of President you might have had an education.
Why are we paying so much attention to individuals who have no chance of winning the Presidency or even the nomination? Cain, Bachmann, Rand Paul and the rest of them are a sideshow.
I agree with Herman Cain. No muslims in our government, they don't belong there.
Hermain Cain is brilliant and he is also correct on this issue. Anyone who thinks he is wrong is not familiar with this issue or Islamic culture.
Herman Cain is RIGHT! This has absolutely nothing to do with religious discrimination, so don't waste my time whining.
Placing Muslims in our government is equivalent to placing Marxists, Socialists and Communists in those positions. ALL OF THEM are enemies of the United States Constitution.
Although Obama seeks out such enemies for his administration, it doesn't alter the simple truth and logic of the matter.
I agree whole heartly with XENIA MARTINEZ AND Rev. Dr. Devi Nostrum. This country was founded on Christian principle and once we start to erode our values and principles with those of other cultures we will loose the identity of who we are and where we came from and the basis and foundation of our success. Although one of our founding principles is " Freedom of Religion" once that concepts starts to lead to an erosion of the values we were founded on, then its time to set up barriers against them. We cannot afford to bring into the US every different practice from around the globe and hide behind the freedom of freedom of religion veil. . If those coming to the US want to do so and don't like those policies then they the have the choice to leave.
I give Mr. Cain credit for standing up for his belief and principles.
My wife and I agree with Herman Cain .
This is a non issue. Cain has no chance of a GOP nomination.
REALLY?? SERIOUSLY? is this the people that "suppose" to be educated,well rounded professionals? Are these the people that we are going to put into leadership?? Again! REALLY? how power hungry is this guy? Well if thats his think..then lets keep out christians,catholics,jews,baptist etc..OMG! this is serious!!!!
let's get over the anti-race, anti-religion comments. Sahria law, that muslims follow, require them to support the Sharia law (not the constitution of any government they are a part of) – this is plain and simple – if a muslim takes the oath of office to protect the laws of the United Staes, then he/she (sorry HE only in this case) will be lying either to his religious law or to the oath he just took to the United States – they cannot co-exist.
His comments shows discrimination.I am a soldier and I faught for the freedom of our nation so people like him would n t say anything about Muslim.Also, does he mean that neither my kids nor myself has the right for certain jobs.In addition being muslim does not mean you have to practice Shariaa Law.He is so ignorant .Does not he know that there is plenty of Muslim country that does not practice shariaa LAw.
Exactly the type of statements that radicals seek to justify the hatred they spread.
He'
s absolutely correct, we can learn from europe now or face a Islamic ideaology later! which is agaist our laws and freedoms like Shia law.
He's an idiot. No, Islam doesn't have a place in government but neither does any other religion. Should we just select atheists?
I am not a Muslim, but I am sure that as Americans, they should be afforded the same rights as any other American. As for the gentleman in question, he has the right to his opinions. He is evidently not up on the Bill of Rights, and is not the type of American I would like to see in the highest post in the United States Government.
How can Herman Cain represent and swear to uphold the Constitution and deny people opportunity based on their religious belief?
WOW Someone actually wants to keep Religion and politics separate!! Especially a GOP Member!! Kick the Christians out too!! Religion is killing humanity!!
Herman Cain ..has just set the stag and opened up the dialogue on this , hot issue , its a concern globally and hes right on the hot issue
the problemo i see is america has to be stern , strong and not cave in to such , Sharia law ..is not what america ,britain and canada are formed from for family values and moral religious postions .
britain has a good grip on this issue imho , since ive heard they are in the process very silently of dealing with the onslaught of sharia law in some communites ....
we need a voice for us , the black folk had martin luther king , the white section and chrsitians have no one , we need to speak up and make waves
bombs dont work ,,,,masses work
joshua
hamilton ontario
canada
Someone should tell this guy to read Article VI of The U.S. Constitution wherein it states . . . There shall be No religious test to hold public office!
I absolutely agree. It's happening in Europe and it will happen here if we don't wake up and take back this country!! Let's not be so stupid as to think we are exempt. This country is making itself weak because we try to appease everyone else and not take care of our own. We give millions to other countries while we are going broke. Has anyone seen the ad on tv where it is set in the future and someone in China is giving a speech to students about how America fell and how we work for them? It will come to pass if we don't watch out!
I could sit here and spend hours trash talking this guy, but I think I'll take the high road and simply call him a Morron. As a Soldier, we protect the rights of all Americans, including Muslim Americans. (Yes, they are AMERICANS) Cain doesn't want muslims in office or in our government, fine. I don't want him there either.
I believe Mr. Cain is correct. Whether we embrace Christianity or not, our founding fathers were mosty (or all?) Christians and I believe U.S. law and governmental structure just cannot be "bent" to Sharia law. At least not and maintain the freedoms we have today.
The majority of the problems we have in this country come from lack of tolerance people have for each other and he is just adding to the problems.
Allah do not force Allah's religion on no one. Allah say : you got your religion and I got mines.
Perhaps Mr. Cain, and others who claim that the U.S. must remain a Christian nation, are unaware that the U.S. ratified the Treaty of Tripoli in 1797. The treaty unequivocally states: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion . . ." This treaty with our MUSLIM neighbors was signed into law (treaties are law once signed and ratified) and has forever solidified our relationship with people of Muslim origins, like it or not.
He need to apologize for his comment and to back up if he want to be heard from Republican that has better value than him.
I completely agree with Herman Cain's statement that he would NOT have any Muslims in his cabinet. Hooray for him!! It's about time that real Americans speak up against Islam and its intention to dominate the entire world with Sharia. It is also about time that those who disagree with Mr. Cain's stance book a one way ticket OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
There is NO place in America for Islamic law. We are a secular republic. The separation of Church and State is fundamental to our way of life. Don't like it? Go live in Afghanistan.
To deny a person access to their own government in any shape or form by ignoring personal merit and focusing on an individual's ethnicity or religion is not only un-American but un-democratic for a position such as Presidency that is in place to reflect the core values of ALL American people and is meant to anchor political and social justice. There could not be a greater disappointment to the American people should this type of language and philosophy be tolerated.
I and many others agree with Mr. Cain. Eventually, the muslim faith and muslim views would overturn or influence the change of American laws just so we can say America is not racist and is politically correct. This will be the beginning of the fall of the America that our fore fathers founded.
It is a shame for a potential candidate for presidency to said that.It is because of people like him that Islamophobia is still going strong in the US.Not all the muslims are radicals and there is a big difference between culture and religion.
"no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
End of story.
Let's face it. Countries are ran with religion in mind. This country was founded on Christianity, and no other religion, because of Queen Victoria forcing religion on the British. We have our own laws and don't want to change it for another religion's laws or ways.
If they don't like the laws we have, DON'T COME HERE, and DON'T TRY TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. We are not Iran, Iraq, India, Afghanistan, Japan, Middle East, or China, we are the United States. A country that God Blesses because of what we believe in and cherish. Don't come here and try to change everything. We don't want it. You want "Sharia" law, then stay and live where it is practiced. Don't try to force it on another country like the United States!
Muslims & Sharia Law, make Christian Fundamentalists look like Girl Scouts. If you wish to live a life without any individual rights whatsoever, then you should embrace Sharia Law.
They are the closest thing to the 'thought police" to come along in a long time...
Just another crack in the twisted, arrogant, republican idiology. This ( USA ) is a representitive form of government. That is why a Chinese person, Italian person, French, Jewish, Muslim, an immigrant from any walk of life can be President of The United States of America !
It's sad to see a black man make such discriminatory remarks; It wasn't too long ago when African-Americans were facing similar discriminations, not priveliged with equal rights. If that was racist, how is this any different?
Great Job Herman Cain,
Now I know who I will be voting for Herman Cain.
I hope he takes the same approach with useless immoral, Godless liberals who always want a free ride off the government. Always someone else fault that they dropped out of school, and can not find a decent job. However, are unwilling to drive to improve their lives because those who do work own them for just being on the earth.
Liberals are so useless
I have little tolerance for men who want to hold political office and, at the same time, completely disregard the Constitution. He says that Islam doen't belong in our government, but the Constituion guarantees freedom of religiion. At the same time most Americans believe in the principal of separation of church and state; meaning we don't want a Theocracy in America, but we do want our leaders to be morally sound.
BTW all these people saying that our country is founded on Christian beliefs are DEAD WRONG.. They were not, Most of the founding fathers were atheist or non practicing in there religious beliefs. People came here to escape religious fanaticism and now christianity is just as bad as muslums and the rest of them THINK WITH YOUR OWN MINDS PEOPLE. JESUS AND MOHAMMED ARE NOT REAL !!!!
Cain's comments show the unfounded and counter intuitive fears spreading through this country.
In a country where statues including the ten commandments are being removed from government courthouses and our FIRST amendment expressly forbids the government endorsing a certain religion, how could shari'a law possibly pose a threat to the US?
People like Cain should try talking to Muslims and finding out what they are really like, instead of demonizing them in an uneducated campaign of hate.
Herman Cain is one of few who is on the right track and I would support him for his comments about Muslims above anything else. All of you sick Americans who believe that we should accept Islam in this country have no idea what the danger is. You need to educate yourself on what is happening to Europe by the influx of Muslims. I am also not a fan of Christians, but I am totally for keeping Muslims at a minimum in America. Most all politicians are blinded by their religion and they think every religion is OK, but Cain happens to know the difference which sets him above the rest.
What has no place in our government is discrimination! Undoubtedly his ancestors (if not he) dealt with it at some point and it is shocking that he cannot consider the similarities. I am so tired of people recalling the supposed principles on which the founding fathers created our country. They were escaping religious persecution! Indeed, they were immigrants! Why do people ignore these facts?
Respectfully responding to an above quote: We are not Rome. We are so very different from the ancient Romans both of the Republic as well as the Empire. This is a question best left for Ancient Historians to discuss at parties for fun!
Hooray for him! The people of this planet have to wake up to the idiocy of the Muslim plague. We are born as human beings, and then brainwashed into being Muslims, Christians, etc. We don't exist without Sun and Earth, but we would do just fine without false prophets!
Yes, I agree with Mr. Cain. How many Americans are already having to deal with the screams from the minarets to pray to Allah. "Allah Akbar" actually means Allah is greater or greatest which is an obvious subjugation of Yahweh Elohim. It's absolutely true Muslims can and are very good people but the Islamic agenda is not compatible with the U.S. constitution.
He has the right to say what he feels, and since there is so much ambiguity within the muslim religion about their "laws" and "rules", why would anyone judge him on that. They need to tell the world what the hell their religion really stands for, because if you ask 10 of them, you will get at least 5 different answers. I agree with Herman, I wouldn't either. Look at Europe as an example of what it can be like here, they are too far gone to do anything about the muslim population explosion, and their influence on those countries. I don't want them taking over my country, and since we have a tendency to bend over backwards for everyone, lets avoid the whole issue if we can.
I totally agree with Cain and think we need more Presidential hopefuls like him! Why would we want to allow a Muslim to control our court system? Our country is slowly going down hill and if we do not stand up for our values and allow Muslims to take over, I'm afraid there won't be anything left of the U.S. as we know it.
Isn't it funny how black politicians forget when the black man in America was feared, enslaved and segregated.
Blacks could not vote. blacks could not marry white people. Blacks were 3rd class citizens. Bigot were afraid blacks would take over the country.
Mr Cain you are an ignorant fear mongering idiot racist bigot.
Did you forget Timothy McVeigh was a "christian". Have you forgotten the white supremists in this country are devout christians!
Mr Cain you have the pea brain of a baboon. Read and memorize the 1st amendment and the 4th amendment. you baboon bigot.
I agree with Mr. Cain.. Why do all these Muslims come to this country if they do not like the present laws? Why do we have to change our present laws, our dress, and everything else to satisfy them.. When you hire a Muslim does he get time off to pray 5 times a day?
Herman is just telling the truth. He wants to put the US Constitution first. He doesn't want to put someone in the Government that puts Sharia Law ahead of the US Constitution and I'm glad hes taking this stance.
When we display some unity as a country, rather than the diffracted allegance to ethnicity or religion, and when we declare our desire to hold the nation more important than self (notice the distraction in Wisconsin where personal agenda and wealth is held higher than state) than by all means place Muslims in positions of power. Islam is silent on American values. They reach out when our power for right-thinking and -acting assists them against atrocities... we will see how our intervention is valued when Libya is liberated? When Islam publicly AND personally is decried for the violence it permits then they will have proven allegiance to righteousness and humanity.
I would not permit others, minority or majority, to act on God's behalf without my crying out against them. When Westbrook threatened to insert their ugliness here in SC just a couple of weeks ago many were ready to act. I was prepared to speak and act against their horrendous positions as it is inflicted on wounded families. When groups act with principles they have legitmate grounds to demonstrate. Again, the movement in WI was deplorable and certainly without much prinicple regarding ALL the constituents they serve.
When did being Muslim become synonymous with being Nazi or KKK? It's a bit of rude of him to speak of Muslims in that respect, if the Judicial system represents the American people and we have American Muslims then he is quite ignorant to make such a system. As a Muslim, I wouldn't want to work with a bigot like that either.
I think he is totaly rite, i love that someone has the balls tto say that, i never thout twice about muslims until the tower attack and i hate to be thout of as a racist cuz im not but. they've proven, not to be trusted because you can never know who is a true muslin that understands their real belifs or a sleeper cell just trying to get into our government< i was in the U.S.ARMY for 7 years and i understand that these terrorists are very patient, disaplind enemys...rite now they can not be trusted, until the bad ones aree gone.
Such restrictions have been overturned every time they are imposed on one group or another. We are moving toward an era of greater inclusion and more universal participation and we should not turn back.
I agree that this is an outsider trying to get some national coverage and CNN should not assist him by providing it.
im absolutely disgusted at herman cains comments! cannot believe we are experiencing this sort of discrimination in the 21st century. i agree with kaylynns comment, discrimination based on religion was illegal, how did he even get away with that comment?!
I have little tolerance for men who want to hold political office and, at the same time, completely disregard the Constitution. He says that Islam doen't belong in our government, but the Constituion guarantees freedom of religiion. At the same time most Americans believe in the principal of separation of church and state; meaning we don't want a Theocracy in America, but we do want our leaders to be morally sound. I don't see how Islam could not offer the same moral base as Christianity, Judeism, or Buddism for that matter.
Praise to Mr. Cain! The Koran tells and trains their people that they are the only religion and they are to turn all people to their religion and they are to destroy all other religions. This is the opposite to the values of our country. Come here, live here, work here but embrace the doctrine of democracy. We must protect ourselves and our wonderful values.
Thank goodness Mr. Cain has spoken out and thank goodness he is brave and not following this silly doctrine called, "political correctness.
Thank you, Sharon
Cain's pandering to the right is a new low in this presidential pre-campaign. Oh, how quickly this newly minted millionaire latched onto the issues of the right: lower taxes for the filthy rich and big business, exclusion of a whole group of people from Government, based on their faith, etc.
When an African American openly discriminates, it erodes the moral superiority of this group in world affairs.
Anyone who says ANYTHING about Sharia Law being in America is going to LOSE! I bet he NEVER met a Muslim or anyone who had studied the regelion!
Just exactly how do people think that Sharia law will become part of our law here in the US? Will the less than 5 million American Muslims (less than 3% of the total population) launch a coup d' etat and take over America imposing Sharia law or will the American people, through our firmly established system of democracy vote to amend our justice system if favor of Sharia?
By denying a religious person to serve our government in whatever capacity that person is qualified, is the exact opposite of what Mr. Cain supposedly stands for. He says the Muslims are trying to take over our government? Are the Christians, Jews, Buddists, etc. also, trying to take over our government. This man is sick and in the worst racist way! He is in fact, bringing into the government, religion, which is Constitutionally separate and should not even be considered in whether or not a person serves his country. I am soooo tired of the fear factor that the right seems to feed on in this country! When will the American public stand-up and say ENOUGH?!!! As for defining the Muslim faith by interpreting it...these people have done a lot of harm. Do the Christians out there all interpret their religion the same? An eye for an eye? Good gosh...let's get rational and leave religion to a faith...not a government! This nation was founded on freedom of religion and separation of church and state....let's not forget that!
I am a white male christian, I believe that all ethnic backgroungs need to be represented by the supreme court. Even if that means establishing a lower or higher type of supreme court to accomidate the amount of represenitives needed to represent all of the different people of the USA. If a supreme court justice lets say goes to a type of relious function,that would make them bias and not elegable to be a supreme court justice. This would take out the religious aspect of discrimination in the supreme court due to religion.
It seems that Mr. Cain is the only Presidential hopeful, That knows the truth Re; Muslium's and their Goal's in our Nation! Thank God someone is awake in America! Bravo Herman
The vast majority of Muslims do not want to institute sharia law- I may remind you that Christians do not live by all the rules laid out in the Bible.
As for the quotes from Sayyid Qutb, Ruholla Khomeini, and others- they are a few political extremists that do NOT represent Islam. You wouldn't want Muslims taking selective quotes from the Bible or other Christian texts and saying they represented all of Christianity, would you?
Considering the human species has been around for so long, one would think we would ignore such terrible bedtime stories that organized religion has been feeding us for hundreds of years. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, all just clever schemes to rob the masses of rational thought. Christianity itself set progress back hundreds of years; the same can be said for all religions. Should people one day come to their senses and stop bickering over such trivial matters such as race and religion, perhaps we could leave this rock we call our earth and focus on the survival of the species.
Anyone remember when John Kennedy's being Roman Catholic was reason not to elect him president?
Mr. Cain probably would have been a Klan member 100 years ago if he had been white.
I look at Cain saying he would not have Muslims in his government and I feel so ashame for him. I just cannot believe a black man would stand there and say something like that. Can someone remind Caine that was us a few years ago. well I shouldn't be surprise he is a member of the rebublican party. stupid man.
I think it wrong for a presidential Candidate Herman Cain to say that people can't of different religions should not be long in our government.
1 it is illegal to disqualify any person for a job based on religion, sex, and race.
2 the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that we have the right to fallow our own choice of religion and fallow it how we choose is fit as long as it doesn't hurt other people.
I will NOT vote for Presidential Candidate Herman Cain, who is clearly closed minded and only see the negative side of a religion.
I agree with him and would vote for him, people in this country need to wake up. They are trying to do away with the religions which founded this country.
This country is not just a Christian country just as it isn't one nationality, as it is not one political party. You and the rest of the republicans, the holy rollers of this country, who got us into this mess to begin with should not cast the first stone, it may come back to bite you!
Just as all black men are not criminals and all white men are not geniuses, not all muslims are terrorists.
It isn't about being separatist toward them. They don't believe in separation of church and state, so there is no way for them to reconcile with our laws legislatively.
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Republicans and tea partiers complain about "creeping Sharia Law" in the government cannot, if asked, name one example of this happening.
When a politician talks about how bad Muslims are they are just trying to scare the public into being afraid of every shadow.
If the US outlaws this Muslim sharia Law then I think it would be ok for a qualified Muslim to hold any office in the US. But we must outlaw this oppressive law now before it is too late!!
Boss Harding
I agree that Sharia Law has no place in our government. Neither does Christian Law, Jewish Law, Buddhist Law, or Hindu Law.
Well, after listening to this dude and also watching "Muslims, Unwanted in America" documentary on CNN last Sunday, it appears that black Americans are in the forefront of this bigotry against Muslims in America in general. This whole simple issue about Muslims' desire to build places of worship is being turned and twisted by both democrats and republicans in a way that is only inticing anti-Islam sentiment in this country. Reality is that many Americans are brought up to dislike and hate Muslims. Many Americans are also very narrow minded that includes almost all of the politicians. But when I hear bigotry from African Americans, it tops it all off. Are these people stupid enough not to realize that had it not been for Martin Luther King, they would still be picking cotton somewhere in Georgia or Alabama in schacles???
The problem is the majority of americans are not familiar with the muslim faith which states for muslims to kill any and all infidels in the name of god and they will find a place in heaven. Infidels would be anyone who is a non-believer of the muslim faith. For those muslims that say we dont follow that muslim law, how can they choose which ones to follow and not. That's hypocritical!. What about the muslims who do follow their faith to the "T"...scary!
Not politically correct, but absolutely correct as a policy. It shows he understands the danger of Sharia Law. It is also evident that anyone who openly voices this view will be villianized by the media as scary right wing, republican who thinks religion is more important than politics. The truth is that it is the Muslims who think religion is more important than the constitution of the United States and wish to impose sharia law to supercede it. Preventing this from happening is what Cain is talking about, and many Oklahomans support this effort and passed a law forbidding sharia law. But the courts issued an injunction against the will of the people of Oklahoma.
Herman Cain is a well spoken American and extremely knowledgeable of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights and you will always know what his position is and I would support his efforts as a canidate for President of our country.
RIGHT ON, HERMAN!! Nice to hear there is still a little bit of common sense out there. Islam is NOT a religion. It is a twisted political ideology that depends on ignorance and tyranny in order to survive and grow. Anyone who subscribes to it is morally and intellectually unfit to govern others. It is the natural enemy of our country and our way of life. All of our greatest presidents would agree with you if they were here.
Comments like these always remind me of two things:
1) We as human beings are still a primitive species and fear will always control us unless we recognize this and overcome it. We can do this with simple education
2) Religion has reached its expiration date in the timeline of rational intelligent human beings. Its dangerous and divides us as humans
Just another bigot. Thank God, he has no chance of winning. Where exactly in the constitution does it say "Only Christians can hold government positions"?
Oh I forgot, constitution is only relevant when it suits these extremists.
correction conservatives should not have a place in our government and their radical beliefs and religion should not be allowed to influence our laws
From the viewpoint of those currently livibg under Sharia Law, I failed to see the benefits
Hmmm, does this mean we can keep Christians and Jews out of office too? Maybe we can have world peace after all.
I am pretty much a radical liberal when others label me, but I agree with Mr. Cain that Sharia creep is a real phenomenon and there should be one law for all people. There is no valid argument for cultural accommodation to Muslims to break the law of the land to impose medieval practices.
Malcolm X was an American Muslim and he died so Cain could have the audacity to run for the position he is in today. Was his death in vain?
so, he wouldn't support a man such as Mohammad Ali a devote Muslim I do believe that he has been for more than twenty years...
"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) expressed outrage on Monday, saying Cain's words show how "right wing" conservatives are currently engaging in Muslim bashing."
And when is the last time you heard the Muslim majority in the US condem ANY jihad style activities in other countries? They will publicly condem any threats in the US; when pressed for comment...
Is it any wonder why they are not respected? They secretly admire
the killing of "ifidels", (ANY non Muslim) show me the passage in the Quran that speaks of respect for other religions and tolerance for different points of view and then show me the members of Islam who actually practice it, and have any influence in the Muslim community; in other words: does anyone in their community actually listen to them?
Hello People separation of church and state!!! No one will ever be able to incorporate sharia law into our constitution. Grow up and live by our constitution and values: STOP DISCRIMINATING!!
If everyone thought like Cain African Americans would probably still be slaves, it's truly disgusting.
what is the difference between having a Muslim in a place of decision compared to having a Christian? the choices are to be made based on the constitution not on a religion! so the religion of someone should not matter!!! what happened to separation of church and state?
A comment like this scares me only because it signifies the level of ignorance (or shall I say flat-out "studpidity") that runs rampant within the American Electorate. Maybe Alexander Hamilton's fears had solid foudation. The Constitution of the United States of America shall remain the supreme law of the United States of America until the United States of America is no more. Sharia Law shall always remain a fantasy in this county because of it. Comments like Mr. Cain's are only geared toward tapping into that large segment of the American electorate who doesn't understand this - and who should turn in their voter registration cards because they put many more lives at risk with their voting stupidity than with their drivers licenses. This, I'm dismayed, is the same segement of the US electorate which elects and re-elects a George W. Bush, brands President Obama/Hillary Clinton as "Socialist" for trying to make basic health care an "American RIGHT," and who, in reality, cannot stand having a Black man in the White House! All of this is what will doom America, not Sharia Law or Liberal government.
These comments come from ignorance. First, our country was founded on separation of "church and state" meaning a separation of religion and government, so it shouldn't matter what religion anyone in government practices, only that it remain out of our laws. Secondly, our founders were escaping religious persecution when they came to America, they would be appalled by the people today persecuting Muslims.
All of this fear and ignorance comes from people not having the competency to actually do a little fact finding and research on their own, rather than listening to news stations that thrive on ratings and therefore throw around outlandish accusations and feed people propaganda, daily. Formulate your own opinions and beliefs rather than listening to those of others.
Cain is a bigot. Period. This is quite ironic considering he is part of a group that quite recently received rights in this country. Have we not learned anything from our history? Equal rights doesn't just apply to whites and blacks, it applies to all.
It wasn't long ago that Catholics were viewed with the same ingorance. If we elect John Kennedy the Pope will be our de facto President.
Really an afro american saying such a bigoted statement shows how ignorant this man is and should not be offered the highest job in our land. shame on him.
If Mr. Cain’s statement slightly changed to replace the word ”Muslims” by “Jews”, you would realize how racist these remarks are. Each religion has its teaching and laws, and Islam is no different than Christianity or Judaism.
Just another quick comment in response the one left by XENIA MARTINEZ. That states this country was founded on beliefs and principles of christianity and thus should remain as such. My friend you couldn't be further from the truth... this country was founded by people seeking religious freedom and to really hammer that statement home I'm going to give you a few quotes from some of our most beloved founding fathers and believe me when I say these are EXACT QUOTES.
John Adams wrote "This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it."
Benjamin Franklin who was deeply opposed to all organized religion once published an article in his newspaper that stated it was his firm belief that "Lighthouses are more useful than churches".
And finally Thomas Jefferson himself wrote, and i quote "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
So my point is this, does that sound like our founding fathers were seeking to build a christian nation? Or a nation based on any religion for that matter? It was Jefferson himself who wrote the declaration of independence that clearly states "All Men are Created Equal"! He didn't say all christian men are created equal!
Know your History my friend and be proud of it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
I agree w/ Herman and than some... I love the God of creation and I serve Him according to faith in the Son of God by the revelation of His Word and the seal of the Holy Spirit! MUSLIM FAITH IS NOT based on truth, IT IS NOT through the One true God, there is only lies and deception rooted in it, and therefore it stems from the enemy of our soul, Satan the liar, murderer, and thief. I believe our country needs to recognize the living God and put Him first in our government and heart, then we could actually fight effectively against the things we have no knowledge or understanding of. For anyone who thinks that Herman is wrong in his statement, your free to hold your opinion and an opinion it shall remain. For anyone who disagrees w/ my statement, my prayer and hope is that you know Christ!
How many Muslims support anti Israel and anti semetic policies?
In a recent demonstration in NYC against the Saudi miiitalry action in Bahrain, they called for the the Saudi's to attack Israel. Isn't it time we addressed the religious political and philosophic aspects of Islam that sustains not only anti-west but anti Israel and anti semetic tenents.
I truly can't believe the islamaphobia in this country. I am a 19 year old college student from the northeast, and call me naive, but I believe terrorists commit acts of terrorism, not Muslims. True, the terrorists who committed the ghastly acts on 9/11 were all muslim, but so what? Out of the more than one billion muslims in this world, it is unthinkable that a group of less than 25 could band together to perform those attacks? Why are we so scared of letting non-christians (Muslims in particular) into government? There aren't one billion crazy whack-job Muslims. There are a handful, I'd wager less than a thousandth of a percent. I can absolutely guarantee that there are as many whack-job Christians as there are Muslims, just look at Westboro Baptist Church or the Branch Davidians. I know that 9/11 was a scarring day for this country, but don't you think its enough punishment to bear the shame of know that members of your religion did that? It would be as if your brother murdered somebody in cold-blood. You can't punish an entire 1/6th of the world, for the actions of so few. A Muslim might be the next great political philosopher. And it's not like a bill labeled "Sharia Law for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" would make it past the House anyways. Quit being bigots.
If I can believe the clip as posted and not distorted I would say Mr. Cain is correct. I'm from Canada , multi culturalism is OK as long as it doens't take over your heritage as it has in Canada . We no longer have our own true identity , the beliefs we were founded on are being eroded. It is considered offensive to stand up for your christian heritage in the workplace, it will be held against you. I'm a bigot if I stand up for my faith , but muslims can slander any and everything they want and unless I accept it I'm a bigot .
Unless they wholeheartedly accept your constitution and laws don't do it . Don't allow Sharia Law to creep in .
America WAKE UP , don't let your country become like Canada.
This just shows how uneducated people are, where did all this shria law garbage come from? When he spoke it just showed me that Mr. Cain is not so bright. I bet he does not even know what it is, there are many different interpretations of it around the world. Also what makes it different from evangelicals & southern baptisits chrisitians that want to replace the U.S Costitution with there bibels laws. Plus last time I looked the U.S Constitution makes it impossible for any type of religious laws from taking over. It would never happen & it will never happen.
Agree with Herman therory 100% Muslim religion is one of a kind. There is no other religion that believes "may way or highway". If they take control of our government, they will ultimatly wip-out everyone, I mean everyone that refuses to be Islam. This is not discrimination. This is about protecting our civil right that allow us to belive or don't believe in anything, and that no one should tell us how and who to worship.
Give me a break, the ignorance expressed here by some is just obscene. Yes government should not be influenced by religion, e.g. ANY RELIGION. So extend your bigotry to intelligence. If you don't want a known Muslim in government then you must take that stand for any Christian, catholic, baptist, and Evey other flavor of religion.
There was a time in history when the Romans didn't allow Christians into government because their religous beliefs would make them weak leaders. I spent a significant amount of time in Muslim run countries and have many friends who Muslim, and these are honest, sensative creative individuals with a high sense of integrity. Our country can only lose when we won't allow Americans to participate in our government soley based on religion.
Mr. Cain's statements are appalling. Sharia law is used by conservatives as a way to scare people and is not understood at all. I would love to see Herman, or anyone else who uses Sharia as an excuse to discriminate Muslims, actually define it. And in response to Jerry, Taqiyya allows a Muslim to lie about their faith in order to save themselves from prosecution, not to further the "cause of Muslims."
Help me understand how people can honestly support this? Did we find out the religion of Timothy McVeigh who blew up the Federal Building in Oaklahoma and discrimate against his ethnic and/or religion?
So does this mean we will now punish all Catholic's for the priests who have molested children over the years? What is next??
Just amazing and the real disgusting thing, there are others who will support and want this to really happen.
Okay so basically what Herman Cain is basically saying is that no one with a religious affiliation should be allowed to have a position in office. So Christians should not be allowed to be in office either because they would be influenced by their religion in decision making...yeah sounds dumb doesn't it? Separation of Church and State and equal opportunity or hypocrisy, Herman Cain has chosen hypocrisy and is more anti-American than those he wants to leave out.
The freedom fighters ( rebels ) fighting for their dignity & freedom against an oppressive, ruthless regime lead by Khaddaffy has bogged down just outside the city of Serte. This is where it is going to get interesting. The rebels might have to infiltrate Serte & Tripoli one rebel at a time and use a form of guerilla warfare. It could take the form of a battle of attrition untill the rebels can overtake Khaddaffy!
Can you imagine an American politician saying "I would never hire a Jew to a governmental post or a judge-ship" ? Would we be expressing opinions and blogging about this? Would he still be in office, or tearfully apologizing in shame? Just the fact that this politician's statement about Muslims is even entertained demonstrates how hollow American "ideals" have now become.
@Xenia Martinez I'm sorry, but you are starkly mistaken. The majority of the founding fathers weren't Christian. Get your facts straight
I find it interesting that in one breath Republicans accuse Obama and the Democrats of acts in violation of the Constitution, and stating that the founding fathers are turning over in their graves due to these acts. Then in the next breath, they are spouting such nonsense that "sharia law somehow is taking over in America." I have some advise for these Republicans... Read the Constitution, and more specifically the First Amendment.
In the first line of the First Amendment states...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
In other words, it was the wishes of our founding fathers as stated in the Constitution that no one in government will ever be able to legally impose ANY religion or facet of a religion upon the masses here in America.
Mr. Cain needs to re-read the first Amendment.
It prohibits the establishment of a national religion, such as Sharia law, which Mr. Cain opposes. But it also prohibits the establishment of religious tests for public office, such as Mr. Cain says he would favor.
Conservatives should quit trying to break down the barriers between church and state, then they wouldn't have to worry about others abusing it.
President-elect Cain would get my vote. And I pledge to campaign for him and send money to any election campaign he might decide to engage in. God Bless America, American like jerry and Down with "shariah!" It is UN-American! Protect Your Rights paid for with the blood of Our Fathers.
I believe Herman Cain should run for President with thoughts like that. To allow Muslims in our government is a slippery slope that we do not want to go down. I also do not believe this is discriminatory to a religion as Muslims live under sharia "law" and that "law" is nothing like the "laws" in the United States. Muslims want Sharia "law" in their own communities and this should not be allowed to happen. If they want to live in a Muslim community with Sharia laws they can live in those countries that allow it, not here in the U. S.
Herman Cain is pandering to the truly ignorant among us. That this corporate exploiter of undercompensated labor can gain political traction from fear-filled workers is evidence of that ignorance.
Herman Cain is a "negro" who has studied little of what muslims practice or believe. He is being motivated by money or arm twisting by an unseen force who thinks this is the best way to attack what could turn out to be an opportunity for positive dialogue. He is simply a mouthpiece for someone who chooses to stay behind the scenes and pull strings.We're getting hip to this b.s.
How ridiculous!...This is one poor excuse for any candidate....yes Im Muslim....This is religeous discrimination to the fullest..just because a person is muslim doesn't mean that they are not an american and doesn't want the same peace..progress, and the best for us...(US) in America..I wouldn't impose something that America doesn't Agree with...This already shows his Ignorance Abroad to the nations....What a Coward to use such an excuse for his push...I could've been one to vote for him..but Muslim or not...Dont want things to get worse but greater for America...I already feel the hate everywhere I go...the only place for us in America is nowhere...I wish I could leave and never return here..I rather be in a place where there is Equality...America isn't it...Islam is Peace..But we suffer for the Ignorance of others on both sides....I pray that America wakes up...open thier Eyes...we been here all our life...Im no terroist but I get treated like one...this hurts...Id rather die with my brothers and sisters than to be around these pea brain ignorant..low budget...aint use to nothin people..I thank Allah for those christians who i've eaten with..broken bread with and share love peace and happiness with..Subhan'Allah..Thanks Ali for giving me a chance to share my thought...thx CNN God bless you All
What part of the Constitution's Article VI, section 3 don't Cain and his bigoted ilk understand? "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Our forefathers came over here from England on the Mayflower to establish a country based on their political and religous beliiefs. We were founded as a christian nation. There were no Muslims on the Mayflower because Muslims are not Christians.
I agree with Mr. Cain. Muslims have been trying to get exceptions affecting only them and not abiding by the social rules and laws of the USA. The US already has laws covering choice of religion and free speech. Decades old psychological warfare focuses on "the best kind of victory is one in which you never have to fight"; and "The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives." If Muslims, or any other people/group, don't like our ways and laws, then they need to return from whence they came.
People are taking the true meaning of our constitution out of context to benefit a few outsiders. The best way to overpower and change a country/people is to manipulating them to your beliefs/ways; hopefully the true US people wakeup before its too late.
i also thought it was illegal to discriminate against the religon or race in the USA so glad i live in CANADA where we do not discriminate or ever in our history have. i thought you were a free country with civil laws that protect all american freedoms from oppression i guess i was wrong thank all gods of all religons i am CANADIAN.
Do we really want a president who will lie when he takes his oath of office and will follow only the part of the constitution that he believes in? Our forebears came to this country for Freedom of Religion. This is not YOUR religion it is ALL religions. The separation of church and state protects ALL of us.
Cain said that "there is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government." Perhaps he is right, but shouldn't we be even more concerned that there has also been an attempt to force Christian doctrine into our laws and courts. Perhaps we should not appoint Christians to these important post as well, even if they are Christians who believe in seperation of Church and State.
Since we don't want to have other religions (other than Christianity, of course), should we not allow Catholics to become members of government or the judiciary system, as they must obey the word of the Pope? Should we also bar Jewish citizens from those types of positions because their holy text is different from Christians?
I am a student from Canada and i m glad we dont have any racisim like America over here. I am proud to say that Canadian people choose to educate them selves about muslim religion and sharia law unlike Americans where they just want to discriminate .
Correct me if i am wrong , but does the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the EEOC not mention that discrimination based on Religion (a protected class) is illegal? What's next? No Jews in the Government? Hindi? Buddhist? For that matter how about no Atheist either? Let's grow up please this is not the play ground at elementary school
Mr Cain i would like you to show me your copy of the constitution that says only christians are protected under the first amendment and i will show you my copy that says a black man can't run for office.
Actually this country was founded by men who disdained religion and believed in seperation of church and state. In fact, there are many quotes from the founding fathers that stated this :
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." -Benjamin Franklin
"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst." -Thomas Paine
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
– Thomas Jefferson.
This is a lot like when Kennedy was elected and the U.S. panicked.
So may i ask what religion has to do with office? Give me a jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim president anyday so long as he's the best man for the job. Did W's Christian Faith benefit us? So long as you're a realist who looks at fact you'll answer No.
Didn't people say that "President John F. Kennedy if given the presidency would bow to the Pope as apposed to the constitution." Did that happen? The answer is no he did not. He was Catholic and the minority of the time in the nation. So to say that anyone based on religion would put religion ahead of loyalty to state and country is ridiculous and bigoted.
to allow a muslim to be in our government is not possible and should never be !!!! They live by Sharia Law and would never make a fair and non discriminatory decision as their religious beliefs dictate their life style. It is the same as having a Catholic priest in government, he could not make a non discriminatory decision either, he lives by his religious beliefs. Stop crying and belly aching liberals, please see the light !!!!!
Finally, a politician with guts to say how he feels !!!!!! Way to go Herman.
So many of those against Muslims in government cite Sharia Law as a main reason for their opinion as Mr. Cain does. What many in the American and non-Islamic public don't understand is that Sharia law is not written and its interpretation differs across the board, very similarly in the way that Christian laws and rules of religion differ across the board. For example a Catholic will interpret Christian law differently than a Methodist, or a Baptist. It is therefore foolish to think that allowing Muslims in government is going to Jeopardize our Constitution. This issue is nothing more than one of ignorance and discrimination, just just in the case of Mr. Cain, but across America anywhere where people are concerned with an Islamic presence.
I encourage the American public to try to step across the line once, think about what they would say if these events were occurring in an Islamic country and concerning a Christian minority. What would you say then?
This reminds me of history when people were worried about JFK being elected because he was Catholic and would take orders from the Pope. Saying that any and all Muslims elected would try and impose Sharia law upon us is as ludicrous as well. Sure, there may be a few, but every, single one of them? Get real.
I personally and sick of this religion being shoved down our throats. No matter how you cut the mustard this religion is oppressive towards women. I don't want the freedoms that so many women like me have worked so hard to attain over shadowed by what really goes on behind the scenes. As a traveler to many muslim countries. I for one an not impressed by the way women and children are treated. I want me and my daughters to be able to tell any man anytime, anywhere to kiss my you know what because I can. Enough said
Don't let "political correctness" cause the end of America. We are already on a dangerous path, and losing more of the America that my grandfather fought for in WWII everyday. Please stop 'selling out' our country.
I understand the impulse by many to down- play any harm coming to this country because of islam. I believe this is a mistake however well intended. There is no place in the koran that teaches tolerance for other religions and that sets it apart from all of the major religions that the west is familiar and comfortable with. islam is insidious in that it seems inoccuous but iis in reality a wolf in sheeps clothing. i agree with Mr Cain. Just because we want to be friends doesn't mean we have to live together. We need some talking points that aren't all or nothing.
Why does it not surprise me that whenever something is going on in a Muslim country, Non-Muslim American's try to attack the Muslim's in this country and try to make a connection with those Muslim's. It is clear to see that it is not that non-Muslim people do not like Muslim's because they think they are all terrorist but because they are scared. Muslim's are no more of a terrorist than the Christian's, Moron's I mean Mormon's that go into other country's a slaughter men, women, and even children. But I guess the American way as it has always been, claim that America is the best country there is while killing innocent people elsewhere and even innocent people within our own land. My point is that not all Muslim's are the same, just like not all Christian's are the same. If the people of this country who are trying to point out all Muslim's, you best be careful that you are not creating a War with God himself. Remember, while you are judging others God is judging you.
As a christian and an African American, I am amazed at the cynical views of my fellow Christians brothers and sisters whose ancestors beat, killed, maimed,brutalized, and condemned citizens of African decent and made the same bigoted comments when it came to our freedom here in America. It is love not hatred that brings us together and not the biased opinions of the people who probably can't tell you the name of one Muslim that they know.
Ali;
Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution says clearly that there shall be no religious test for any office in the U.S. Mr. Cain and his other right wing religious companions need to read the Constitution. Everyone, no matter what religion or no religion may serve this nation! It seems these people only believe in the Constitytion when it serves their twisted purposes. It might surprise Mr. Cain and others to learn that the Koran Thomas Jefferson had, was given to him by a Muslim friend.
I am a proud Canadian and support the decision of Cain on not allowing the Muslims to have any position of making the rules and laws that govern these great Nations. The Muslims have their own agenda which is to get world control and force their religion and beleives upon others. If in power they can force us to become Muslim and if we refuse it is their beleif that all non beleivers shall be killed.
The United States and Canada are both Christian countries, we have welcomed other cultures with open arms into our great Nations and allowed them to continue with their own religion and beleifs. It is only the muslims that are trying to force us to change the way we have always been.
In Canada they are attempting to force us to not wish a Merry Christmas or to celabrate the birth of Christ,trying to force us to Change our National Anthem because we have the word of GOD in our song "God keep our land glorious and free" and are trying to force us to remove the crosses from our military graves as well as the prayer for our brave soldiers.
When are we going to stand up for our rights and our Beleifs?
I am a proud Canadian, I am a Christian and proud to stand beside my brothers and sisters of the U.S.A.
It's scary how fast this anti-Muslim movement is happening in America, first the trials and now this. All he doing is spreading hate and widening the gap between the Muslim world and America.
Yes, we see the danger of Sharia law. So when do we wake up and see the danger of the Christian fundamentalist that are trying to take over the country, its really no different the than the tyranny that Sharia law brings to the table
People seem to not want Muslims making political decisions in the US government based on their faith. That is in the fullest keeping with the wishes of this country's founders. How is it that no one seems to care when Christians or Jews make political decisions based on their faith? Though many of the founders held Christian beliefs, they were objective and intelligent enough to separate church and state. I do not want ANYONE in MY US government making a decision based on their faith. Religion is a very personal thing. One person's religion should never be of any concern, to anyone. -LHG
Has everyone become so blind with political correctness. IF we as an american went to any other country, we would be expected to live their culture and follow their laws and rules and most of all speak their language. They would not change their ways for us, we are in their country. We are one of the greatest nations ever, but how much longer will that last if we continue to allow these changes. This is America not America and whatever country you still have ties to.
I have 2 agree no muslims in gov. Their thoughts with the religion is too different from Chrisitianity. This country was built on Christ. Not an idol. It would be too hard 2 move ahead for arguing. They try to bring others into their religion. Americans who KNOW Christ know He is real and don't have time 2 argue. We need to spend time bringing souls to Him as they try to the idol. Jesus loves ALL souls but in the business of government there are enough problems there because either side is not asking the Father to lead them for the people of this country and being greedy selfishly. How much prayer is there in gov.? How much study is there from Genesis to Revelation in gov.? Still no muslims or any other religion than Christ believers in government.
I absolutely agree it does NOT belong in our government.I am greatly distressed about the situation in our government Don't people see that Muslims use our freedoms against us.This is their mission to infiltrate every area of society so that in the end the wole nation is islamised because remember in their eyes if you are not a muslim you are an infidel like us jews and christian whom they proudly call apes and pigs
For one thing, to the person that said America was build on Chrisianity... Go read up on your true history my dear because you are very wrong. Before America was invaded (Like we are doing to other countries as we speak) The main religion was that of the American Indians. Which was NOT Christianity. Religion comes from "religare," which is to bind, or have union with, etc. so humans throughout our history have been seeking this union. Our Right as an American Citizen, (Whether you are originally from another country or not) is to chose whatever religion that we want. So, How can you now discriminate against religions? We might as well, bring slavery back too... how about anyone who isn't a Christian be banned from the USA??? I mean really!!! Your talking about extreme measure!? Its bad enough that EVERY Muslim gets blamed for anything that an extremist does! Maybe we should start airing all Religions bad sides! How about Everytime a husband kills his wife and kids we let the world know; "And they were Christian"... God Bless Us All Cause We Are DOOMED!!!!
WaKe up you INFIDELS!!!!!! This has nothing to do with discrimination!!!! It has to do with the Muslims taking over our country and replacing our laws with Muslim laws as they are doing in Europe!!!! Do you know what SHARIA Law is? Better get your head out of the sand and do some research.
The Muslim's are gradually creeping their way into our society and trying to change our laws. Obama has appointed several Czar's that are Muslim.!!!!!
Hermann Cain is a very sensible man and absolutely right. He has done his homework.. I suggest each of you do the samd.
Let me clarify my previous post . . . Someone should tell this guy to read Article VI of the U.S. Constitution wherein it states, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
This comment is very sad. Most Americans dont even know what sharia law is. Yes, in less advanced countries in the middle east, sharia law is used to justify radical behaviors but many middle eastern governments are secularized like, like mali, turkey, and kazhakstan. It sould not matter whether one seeking a cabinet position is catholic, jewish muslim, buddhist, hindi or anything because our constitution proclaims equality to all and freedom of religion there for this belief is unconstitutional and ridiculous. i cant believe this man is representing our country. American Muslims are just that, AMERICAN and america is their home. The rules that apply to them are the same that apply to other Americans and sharia law goes by culture and everyone know that sharia law is not generally accepted by American Muslims in the way that it is in certain middle eastern countries. American need to remember what this country stands for. I have many muslim friends and can assure you that none of them are trying to take over the American government with Sharia law. Most americans dont know the first thing about Islam and dont know that, it truly is a peaceful religion. People are lumping all Muslim's as radical extremists and this is just wrong. I really hope America smartens up and learns about this religion and what its truly all about so that this issue doesnt become a repeat of the racism experienced in the 20th century with African Americans.
A lot of people do not understand that Sharia makes it mandatory for a Muslim to respect and abide by the law of the country in which he or she lives in, whether Muslim or not. Islamic law is followed only in predominately Muslim countries, and does NOT apply to non Muslims living there. And no, it does not repress women. AND it forbids anyone to be forced into Islam. In fact it forbids the mistreatment of anyone, whether Muslim or not.
As for women’s rights, that is a whole discussion, because they are countless, I don’t think I have heard anywhere that a woman would be allowed to work and have the choice of spending her money on her family or keeping it for herself. In Islam the burden of spending on the family is strictly on the man. However, most Muslim women choose to help out with house expenses. As for head covering, it is completely up to the woman, and she cannot be forced into it.
All these misconceptions we here about Islam here are not true. And I think before we repeat what we hear, we should verify the information from Muslims themselves, not bigots. The church in Egypt was burnt down by the old regime consisting of NON practicing Muslims that want to create havoc to destroy the revolution. Let’s not forget, it was the Egyptian soldiers that rebuilt it. That is what the sharia calls for. Let’s not judge a whole race on the actions of a few. If we start taking away people’s rights, then we are no better than any terrorist whether a Christian, Muslim, or a Jew.
To single out one group as "a bunch of terrorists" is just uneducated thinking and dangerous. It should not be represented nor tollerated in our government – a government which is responsible for deciding the rules and rights of our country.
I feel he is right on target. I am proud to hear that this man stands up for what he believes and not what some other person believes is or is not politicaly correct. Political correct is not what should determine the truth or what this country should stand up for.
Herman Cain is way off base. Religion of any kind should not be in government. So by his own reasoning let's ban the extreme Christians from pushing their agendas(Let's face it they do). The Tea Bag Party/Republican is an extreme faction shoveling their religious beliefs into legislature. Martin Luther King/Abraham Lincoln and our funding fathers are all turning in their graves.
His disrespect of his fellow man and blatant bigotry offends any decent human being.
Perhaps he should declare himself God while he is at it?
Cain said that "there is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government." Perhaps he is right, but shouldn't we be even more concerned that there has also been an attempt to force Christian doctrine into our laws and courts. Prayer in schools and Creationism taught in schools are but two examples. Perhaps we should not appoint Christians to these important post as well, even if they are Christians who believe in separation of Church and State.
Mr. Velshi,
Islam, as interpreted and practiced by all major sects/denominations today, is uncivil, non democratic, and in-humanitarian!! Until a new interpretation/sect of Islam is born, in which equality between men and women, ending in-humanitarian punishments (stoning, amputation, etc.), and recognition of separation between religion and state (end of political Islam), are established and embraced, Islam should not be allowed to seep-through into our government.
Do you know of any religion in the world, other than Islam, that has not been evolved/re-interpreted, at least once, for more than a thousand years?
Herman Cain is RIGHT! This has absolutely nothing to do with religious discrimination, so don't waste my time whining.
Placing Muslims in our government is equivalent to placing Marxists, Socialists and Communists in those positions. ALL OF THEM are enemies of the United States Constitution.
Although our Dear Leader seeks out such enemies for his administration, it doesn't alter the simple truth and logic of the matter.
These pro-discrimination comments are both agonizing to read and hilarious, if you can have both. It seems many repubs think our country was somehow founded on Christianity, when in fact, the opposite is true. Our country was founded on freedom, not on the imposition of Christian beliefs on all citizens (remember separation of church and state). It's no wonder President Obama keeps talking about funding and reforming the American public education system if this is the kind of ignorance it's producing (unless these misconceptions and bigoted attitudes are coming from the home schooled).
Remember the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797? It said:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion . . . "
The founding fathers sought freedom from christian oppression in founding the U.S., and were, themselves, mostly deists.
You have to love it when Christians are fear-mongering about having Islamic beliefs foisted upon them, while they work daily with vengeance to prevent equal rights for gays and to remove women's rights to reproductive autonomy and decent health care based on nothing more than their own tyrannical Christian religion. What hypocrites! Government does not belong in the religion business, period.
Herman Cain is 100% right! The key word is "Sharia". Americans have no issues with the religious aspects of Islam. However, political Islam (Shariah) is a supremicist totalitarian ideology that has NO place in our government, schools, military, our judicial systems or our financial institutions.
So-called civil rights organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, the MSA and 20+ other groups are merely fronts for the Muslim Brotherhood. The FBI recently severed all ties with CAIR. Apologists need to read "The Moslem Mafia, "The Grand Jihad", "Shariah, the Threat to America" to name a few documented books covering the threat of radical Islam.
Political correctness is for fools.
actually, this country was founded on ESCAPING the christian church. But I do understand, they hide this type of information in such hard to find places as history books, so we'll forgive your lack of knowledge on this matter. And before you sit here blaming muslims for violence......more people have been killed in the name of christianity than any other cause or reason in history. Anybody recall teachers mentioning such things as The Crusades, The Dark Ages maybe?? The muslim faith may have been hijacked and used by those who seek to control others, but it's far from being the first, and won't be the last. And the reason this is happening has nothing to do with muslims and everything to do with one simple fact.....LACK OF OPTIONS. Ever wonder why this only happens in certain places? Lack of education, protection, jobs, money...options. Get off your high and mighty. Peter King and Herman Cain are good examples of what's wrong with this country, but uninformed cattle (public) who can't be bothered to learn about issues and form their own opinion, and instead just parrot the opinions of others, are however a great example of what's wrong in this country. You'd think those posting on a cnn site would be more informed, and would be capable of making up their OWN minds. Or at least an original thought from time to time.
Maybe, just maybe, we should be asking WHY american muslim are capable of being radicalized in the first place. Maybe being treated the way they are.....by their neighbors....might have something to do with what's going on.
The sad part is, this is all being used as a smokescreen.
I applaud Mr Cain for being on the ball. The fact that he is Afro American and has been discriminated against speaks volumes.
Look anywhere in the world where they are a Majority and you'll see human right violations and violence. What you won't see is Churches or Temples. They have zero tolerance for anything that is NOT Muslim. Their plan is to immigrate and procreate to be able to have the numbers needed to change a democratic society. That is their plan -quite brilliant but very scary for the rest of us.
Non Muslims under Sharia Law do not allow other Religions in their Governments within Islamic States. Sharia Law does not allow Muslims to be equal to other Religions but must those other Religions must be submissive to Islam. Where Sharia Law is embedded, here in the U.S or the U.K. no other Constitution will be allowed to be imposed within those communities in that host country..Under Sharia Law, Muslims are commanded to be superior to all other Religions. I live in a small community in the U.S, I get all my information from Scholars who know the Quran and invite anyone, including Dr. Jassar to come on and enlighten moderate, or reformed Islamic beliefs..The truth always comes out....www.abnsat.com
I remember when I was in High School there was a fear that the
Pope would take over the US government if John Kennedy was
elected. Thankfully, enough people realized this was not true,
that he was elected. Now there is the same dumb fear about
Muslims. Does the past never teach us anything? Apparently not.
The day you break that promise you'll be America's enemy #1. America will no longer be America and all constraints of peaceful protest and assembly will be eliminated by you're self a traitor. America will be spelled "Libya" and it will be done deliberately to overthrow the U.S..
Then you will also be an antichrist enemy of God who had used America to promote faith in His Son as a "priest nation" and a light unto the world, the last light, and the last light and friend to Israel. "Then a great warlike assembly of nations with the symbol of a bear, will send its arrows from as far the heavens and utterly burn and destroy that Golden Cup of the Lord, with the symbol of an eagle, in an hour's time, never to be inhabited again, as an utter desolation".
Next to Judas you'll will be the most infamous traitor in future history and responsible for the cremation of maybe 300 million Americans.
That's more than Stalin, Hitler, and Mao combined. If not you some ungodly mongrel president will do this be he Rep. or Demo..
So if you are really a patriotic American not only don't do it you're self, but don't let any other traitor's who will take the office and oath do it..
One other question....if a muslim cannot serve in government (there is no seperating the person's faith from their job?) then we need to keep all christians, jews, hindu, etc from the government as well....who would run our country? I guess the christians will have to turn over the country to only those of us who are atheist or agnostic. And the irony of a black man touting the VALUE of discrimination, Martin Luther King must be clawing his way out of his grave to hunt down Mr Cain. And god himself must be preparing to rain down vengence on those who claim to be christian.
@Abi... Thats a GREAT way to put it!!! And Sherry... REALLY??? LMAO!!! No one is trying to implement Sharia Law on anyone here in the US... That sounds Soooo ignorant!!! People need to open their eyes and quit listening to peoples opinons as to the reality of situations! Why -ASS U Me- things? It Should NOT MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU PREFER!!!! Are we Not ALL Human beings trying to live Peacefully in this Dreadful World!!!
Correct me if Im wrong but aren't christians supposed to follow a code of religious law of their own? We hear radical republicans mention adding the ten commandments to the constitution all the time. Yet how many elected official in Washington or anywhere else can honestly say they don't lie, steal, covet, disobey their parents, bare false witness, or even kill. In some way shape or form just to get elected or during the course of their term in office? So call me crazy but saying that a person of islamic faith can't serve as a hight powered public official without trying to take over our government with sharia law is just a little bit hypocritical.
Maybe it's time for the people in this country with half a brain to look at what is going on in the rest of the world right now and have the courage to stand up for what is right and take our country back from the bigoted religious fanatics that have already seized control. Christian extremest are the real threat to our freedom and democracy.
What we have become, is not the America our forefathers fought and died for
This is america, founded on a constitution and a bill of rights....we may not always get things right the first time we try....but we're meant to be guided by the constitution and bill of rights....anybody remember any of this....ALL MEN CREATED EQUAL, seperation of church and state, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND RELIGION........look at the words you're saying.....it's not the muslims who are unamerican.....it's ALL OF YOU!! And you wonder WHY a FEW american muslims have been open to being radicalized.....because en-mass they have been oustricized, villianized, been beat up, told they are both unwanted and when attacked will be unprotected and undefended.....how would you feel if you were treated the way they have been???? And what would you then do with your pain and anger??
MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL START ACTING LIKE AMERICANS....instead of what's been going on....which is the most anti-american behavior I've ever seen in my life (for the slower members of the class, the anti-american behavior is coming from the rest of us, NOT from the muslims)
we are talking about a group of young americans....most of them little more than boys....who have been turned into the most hated group in america....when you were 19 or 20 years old was there anything that kept you from being part of the cool kids in school???? maybe you wore glasses, or maybe you were the short kid, the fat kid, the slow kid, even the smart kid in class....maybe the popular kids were the rich kids and you weren't one of the kids who had all the newest clothes or toys, maybe you sucked at sports.....whatever it was, most people, at some point in their life, didn't quite fit in......maybe your parents got divorced....or maybe you were just the new kid in school.....just about everyone has felt that pain to one degree or another at some point in their life....we're all trying to teach our kids about bullying, and how it's wrong.....BUT WHAT OUR KIDS ARE SEEING IS THAT IT'S OKAY TO BE THE BULLY, that it's fine to actually TORMENT other people.....JUST SO LONG AS THAT PERSON IS A MUSLIM.....kids are smarter than you give them credit for....and a lack of knowledge seems to be a viable defense somehow......maybe WE are the ones who need to go back to school....because this is NOT AMERICAN,PERIOD
so let's cut school funding even further.....maybe everyone will forget what this country once stood for
I truly can not understand the remarks of Cain. How can you hold awhole race/nation accountable for the acts of one or afew. If Cain want to take action on those who done harm in the U.S then his fight isn't with Muslims, his fight should be with American's... His ancestors was slaves & Muslims didn't do that... If we hold every Christian accountable for the acts of the KKK that wouldn't be right! Infact Cain should check his history & see what country was the first to even recognize American as a country.... YES IT WAS A MUSLIM COUNTRY (MOROCCO)........
I dont believe what he is saying. What is wrong with muslims being part of the U.S Government. I am a 11 years old muslims and I dreamed of being in the U.S government most of my life. If we are going to apply the shariah law here in the U.S why dont we just do it elsewhere. On top of that Idont remember anything about a Muslim mentioning anything about applying the shariah law in the U.S. We know the constatution and are normal citizens just like anyone else living in the U.S. I dont think Hermen Cain is saying that becuase he is scared Muslims are going to apply the shariah law in the U.S, I think he saying that out of ignorance and racisem. If pursues with his belief than we might as well not vote for him in the 2012 election.
I had posted a comment earlier in this strain, and upon reading further comments by other users I am both inspired and embarrassed. I am inspired that, in a time of growing intolerance and ignorance in this great county, there is still a large number of Americans who know do not display these tendencies. I am very happy to see that a large number of people do not live in ignorance, who head the lessons that history has taught us (or who pay attention to REAL history and not the history MANUFACTURED by certain CHRISTIAN fundamentalists), and who will not allow the rights that America is founded on to be tarnished.
However, I am extremely sad, angry, and embarrassed, to read comments and hear comments in daily life that show a population of Americans filled with intolerance and ignorance. It is this population who truly, and completely, make me SICK to be associated with them as an American, a country that I have grown up to truly love.
Re: CNN Special, "Unwelcome – The Muslims Next Door".
Your broadcast presents only one side of the issue, that being the Muslim's rights.
Why don't you also show what happens when they get a foothold in a community. Dearborn Michigan is a good example of that. Back in about 1960 Dearborn was a white basically Christian Community. Today it is the largest Muslim community outside of the middle-east. The Muslims have totally taken over that city. If you go down Michigan Avenue, the main street, all you see is Arabic signs on the store fronts. Long term, second and third generation, non-Muslim families who have lived their whole lives in the same house are threatened every day. They have even been told, "we want you to move, you don't belong here". The University of Michigan Dearborn Campus has installed a Muslim foot washing station and prayer facility while denying rights to religious organization to Christian students. It appears that the Muslims want their rights and Sharia law to replace those of others and want all others to conform to the Muslim way.
You should modify your broadcast to show both sides of the issue.
I truly can not understand the remarks of Cain. How can you hold awhole race/nation accountable for the acts of one or afew. If Cain want to take action on those who done harm in the U.S then his fight isn't with Muslims, his fight should be with American's... His ancestors was slaves & Muslims didn't do that... If we hold every Christian accountable for the acts of the KKK that wouldn't be right! Infact Cain should check his history & see what country was the first to even recognize America as a country.... YES IT WAS A MUSLIM COUNTRY (MOROCCO)........
Arrogance in ignorance is predominant among the Islamophobes on this posting as is fear of of the unknown or partially and wrongfully known which in this case is sharia law. It is sharia law that says one must follow the law of the land. The law of the land here in the US is the constitution and that is what most law abiding Muslims follow. To base Sharia law on the actions of the Taliban and extremists is analogous to basing the US constitution on the actions of Army Spc. Jeremy Morlock and his criminal gang in Afghanistan. Both the Taliban and Army Spc. Jeremy Morlock represent wrongs of an overall friendly ideology and a system of laws that keeps our great nation, the USA, successful
I am an Egyptian/American who has lived in Egypt for 19 years. I would like to comment on what is going on with Muslims in America. First, I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with most Muslims, however, there is something extremely wrong with Islam. The essence of the religion (contrary to what many Muslims say) preaches war and violence. If you are Muslim and try to convert to another religion, any Muslim would be allowed, by law, to kill you. This is not only uncivilized, barbaric but also gives the religion an unfair advantage of expanding while suppressing other religions around.
Since the Egyptian revolution many people (about 25%) want Sharia law taken out of the constitution. There have been votes recently in Egypt to reform the constitution. A prominent Sheikh called for a religious Jehad if article 2 of the constitution was changed or removed. This article states: 1) Egypt is Muslim (I ask: how can a country have a religion)?.2) That the law in Egypt must be based on Shria law. Egyptian Christians would likely be slaughtered if this article was reformed. America should be very concerned with the advancement of Islam in the US. Look at all of the Arab world....Every country is ruled with an iron fist by a dictator. That is not a coincidence, Islam does not mesh well with democracy, or freedom.. of any rights. Christians (or any other religious group that is not Muslim) are treated as second class citizens. I know this first hand as I am a Coptic Egyptian...... And Egypt is one of the more moderate Islamic countries. Finally, just to get this straight, Shria law is not just something that is implemented in a constitution, it is a way of life for all Muslims who practice Islam. I know I paint a bleak picture but that is the truth of the matter....and I write this as a very liberal person.
If Sharia Law were ever allowed to be practiced in America does that mean I will be beheaded because I reject their beliefs and I am and always will be a christian?
I believe in Jesus Christ not Mohammed. I worship God not Allah
I'm all for separation of church and state and keeping religion out of politics. BUT, I'm also against putting anyone in a government position of authority or responsibility whose religious philosophy supports killing those who disagree with them, subjugation of women, etc. You don't see Christians, and Jews killing people all over the world and espousing hatred .... over the past ten years every atrocity has been committed by a radical MUSLIM. Period.
Wow!
Theres nothing discriminating about protecting the freedom of
speech,Values and Traditions we all get to enjoy in the Free,Western Civilizations Like Britain ,Canada,and the United States.We've all faced the hatred towards our value's and freedoms by so many Nation's.One only need turn on a T.V. or read a paper and learn. Islam Ideology DOES NOT ALLOW ASSIMILATION. Dont be fooled by people trying to pretend this is a religeous issue ITS NOT!
"Islamism" is a Totalitarian Ideology. Like so many before it . "If thier way of living through the Koran is so wonderful ", why do they flock westward for a better life ??? Hmmm
Diversity is an important goal in a U.S. administration, and the U.S. Consitution will protect our laws from religious influence. It's true some European countries have had issues with politcal correctness creating seperate Muslim communities which now may undermine those countries' systems of government. All the more reason to have a diverse administration; an administration of reasonable voices representing all people of different backgrounds, whether racial or religious or gender or sexual orientation, that are part of the U.S.'s dynamically diverse population, to create an antidote to extremism anywhere, including the disconnected extreme Muslim groups in Europe.
@ Abi, March 29th, 2011 3:18 pm ET
• Why it is too difficult to get a permission to build a Church in Egypt?
• Why the Bishop in El Minya still prays in a tent!! Yet there is a mosque in every corner in Egypt.
• Why Muslims besieged a Church in Pashteel and prevented Christians to pray last Sunday?
• Why Christians received threats to demolish a church in Bany Ahmed Village in El Minya and Muslims prevented the completion of additional building belong to the Church? Muslims also threatened kidnapping of the Copts and their daughters and their wives.
• Why last week Muslims terrorised children while they were attending Sunday School at Virgin Mary and St. George Church in Embaba, Giza and prevented the priest from entering the Church?
• Why Sister Mary Rageb, a nun, is in prison now?
• Why Fr. Abd El Maseh El Baseet went to prison? Is it because he spoke freely on TV?
• Why last week Madline Esam, 18 year-old girl was forced to convert to Islam?
Mr. Cain is 100% correct. Just read the comments of all the Muslims here, they certainly rest his case.
I learned all I wanted to know about Muslims by their complete silence in condeming the murders commited on 9/11 by their fellow "god is great" killers. The last thing we need in this country is for them to infiltrate our government.
I agree with Cain, Sharia Law does not belong in our government… What Cain seemed to miss or did not clarify was that ALL religions do NOT belong in our governmental process. Herman Cain mentions the first amendment and the freedom with expression of a religion. He is correct! One of the focal points of the first amendment is freedom of speech and “separation of church (all religions) and state”
Many of the posters in here should be ashamed.
First, We already have Muslims serving in political office in this country right now defending the laws of this land.
Secondly, There were Muslim Prayer Rooms in the World Trade Center, so they lost something to.
Our Founding Fathers were NOT mostly or All Christian, many did not belive in Christ at all. Some were Deist, Agnostic, Atheist, and many questioned the divinity of Jesus Christ. Look up Ben Franklin.
Ray, many Muslims did comdemn what happens and many of the extremeist that are caught are turned in by other Muslims that love this country.
Clyde, Sorry to bust your bubble, No Sharia Law in Dearborm Michigan as well. That lie was started by 4 idiots that decided to try to hand out bibles at an Arabic Festival. As the four were being Arrested for Disorderly Conduct the stated the Police were enacting Sharia Law. Even the Mayor of Dearborn wrote a letter to Sharon Angle telling here she was lying. BTW Muslims make up 2% of Dearborm Michigan.
Lastly Discrimination and Bigotry is still Discrimination and Bigotry whether you add God's name to it or not.
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