I am surprised by the reporter who became argumentative during the interview. Clearly, his vieiws about the flag (and the student's opinion) came through. I commend the young man for his study. The issues of the Civil War period are complex. One might remember that Lincoln's emancipation proclaimation was directed ONLY at those states in rebellion and the institution of slavery in the entire United States. (Maryland, Kentucky, and I don't know how many Northern States allowed legal slavery after the Civil War until changes in the Constitution were made.) Most whites in the South did not own slaves (they were too expensive and were an inefficient system of production which would have soon been replaced by mechanization). The eyes of many saw the issue as one of States' Rights and adhereance to the Constitution and it's then current amendments. I am glad and thankful that we have a United States. I believe that it would have been disasterous if the South had permanently pulled away from the North. However, in terms of logic and law, the South was right. In terms of force of arms and numbers, it is amazing they held out as long as they did. The flag in question has a checkered history. It should be a source of pride for many. It should also be a symbol of shame in that those who have lifted it have done so in hatred and bigotry. The same can be said for most symbols including the U.S. flag and the Christian cross. When symbols (including some words) are allowed to illicit emotions from those who see them. When those who lift them high have one opinion and those who see them have another (and there is no conversation about the messages sent and received) it is a formula for disaster.
December 5, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
Doug Rodriguez Lawrence Kansas (Correction)
Similarly, the Native Americans used the swastika as a symbol of peace long before the Nazis corrupted it. While I don't think it's necessary to disrespect the stars and bars, the stars and bars, not unlike the swastika, should be set aside as a national symbol because of the hatred and racism associated with the image, not because it's a symbol of pride for Southerners. The South is being asked to do nothing less than what the Native Americans have done, recognize the need to unite under one flag, the stars and stripes. Every patriotic American should unite under the stars and stripes because of the sacrifices all Americans have made for freedom and peace.
December 5, 2011 at 11:36 pm |
ben
States rights was the reason for the civil war. What was the state right being violated? Slavery. The argument that the civil war was not about slavery is not true. Heritage, maybe. But this is a heritage of hate.
December 6, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
frederick bronson
what is the big deal?? the more you let it bother you the more it will.
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December 6, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
Lynn James-Camara
If this child understood how much blood was shed as a direct result of what that flag stood for, he would not do or say this. It is dishonoring our ancestors that made it possible for him to be in that University.
January 14, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
Kat
Well first of all, that isn't the "confederate flag" it is the Battle Flag for the Army of Northern Virginia, and other army units. the actual confederate flag looked much different. So while ignorant people like those in the KKK may have adopted the "southern cross" as their banner and TRIED to turn it into a racial symbol, to most it isn't. For 75 years after the civil war soliers displayed it proudly as a sign of their unit, and to say "we are southern"! But it was the KKK who made it into something its not. Now Ignorant people who dont even know that it isnt the Confederate flag call it a symbol of hate. Well let me tell you that living in Biloxi, Mississippi, not a day went by that I didnt see an African Americans wearing clothing with the flag on it, flying the flag, or having it on the back of their cars.
I am surprised by the reporter who became argumentative during the interview. Clearly, his vieiws about the flag (and the student's opinion) came through. I commend the young man for his study. The issues of the Civil War period are complex. One might remember that Lincoln's emancipation proclaimation was directed ONLY at those states in rebellion and the institution of slavery in the entire United States. (Maryland, Kentucky, and I don't know how many Northern States allowed legal slavery after the Civil War until changes in the Constitution were made.) Most whites in the South did not own slaves (they were too expensive and were an inefficient system of production which would have soon been replaced by mechanization). The eyes of many saw the issue as one of States' Rights and adhereance to the Constitution and it's then current amendments. I am glad and thankful that we have a United States. I believe that it would have been disasterous if the South had permanently pulled away from the North. However, in terms of logic and law, the South was right. In terms of force of arms and numbers, it is amazing they held out as long as they did. The flag in question has a checkered history. It should be a source of pride for many. It should also be a symbol of shame in that those who have lifted it have done so in hatred and bigotry. The same can be said for most symbols including the U.S. flag and the Christian cross. When symbols (including some words) are allowed to illicit emotions from those who see them. When those who lift them high have one opinion and those who see them have another (and there is no conversation about the messages sent and received) it is a formula for disaster.
Similarly, the Native Americans used the swastika as a symbol of peace long before the Nazis corrupted it. While I don't think it's necessary to disrespect the stars and bars, the stars and bars, not unlike the swastika, should be set aside as a national symbol because of the hatred and racism associated with the image, not because it's a symbol of pride for Southerners. The South is being asked to do nothing less than what the Native Americans have done, recognize the need to unite under one flag, the stars and stripes. Every patriotic American should unite under the stars and stripes because of the sacrifices all Americans have made for freedom and peace.
States rights was the reason for the civil war. What was the state right being violated? Slavery. The argument that the civil war was not about slavery is not true. Heritage, maybe. But this is a heritage of hate.
what is the big deal?? the more you let it bother you the more it will.
frederick bronson nc
If this child understood how much blood was shed as a direct result of what that flag stood for, he would not do or say this. It is dishonoring our ancestors that made it possible for him to be in that University.
Well first of all, that isn't the "confederate flag" it is the Battle Flag for the Army of Northern Virginia, and other army units. the actual confederate flag looked much different. So while ignorant people like those in the KKK may have adopted the "southern cross" as their banner and TRIED to turn it into a racial symbol, to most it isn't. For 75 years after the civil war soliers displayed it proudly as a sign of their unit, and to say "we are southern"! But it was the KKK who made it into something its not. Now Ignorant people who dont even know that it isnt the Confederate flag call it a symbol of hate. Well let me tell you that living in Biloxi, Mississippi, not a day went by that I didnt see an African Americans wearing clothing with the flag on it, flying the flag, or having it on the back of their cars.
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