OMG...This has been going on since the PATRIOT ACT came into being. It is only a CRISIS...BECAUSE THE R. WINGIES have made it one. Grow up and get a grip. If you don't want a secure country...I'll bet there others where you could go...like North Korea?
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June 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
jim garvin
How are we to believe the president when he says "we're not listening" and "there are safeguards"? Are these the same safeguards that protected James Rosen with fabricated details like "he's a flight risk"? Or the same safeguards that keeps the IRS from targeting political groups? If the law can be twisted and broken by without any ramification, I suggest to you there are no safe guards. It is not civil liberties vs safety when the information gathered is this broad and preemptive vs an investigation. I fear the press is the only one left to defend us against our own government.
Reblogged this on Michelle Sutton and commented:
Following the American dream? This sounds too similar to NZ's Government spy scandal http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8531588/Key-GCSB-should-be-able-to-spy-on-Kiwis
June 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
Michael Evanochko
Isn't is amazing that all the Government has to do to justify anything is to use the two words: National Security. When I was a kid we were taught this was a Country of the people, by the people, for the people. Fast forward to today's United States and we have become a Country of the Government, by the Government, for the Government.
June 8, 2013 at 10:01 am |
Mike
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Chuck
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I'm extremely disappointed that the mainstream press has taken the bait and are helping to attack the credibility and character of the whistle-blower. The press including Wolf Blitzer has not asked logical hard questions of the government spokesmen who are trotted out to go after Snowden. The press is letting the spokesmen get away ridiculous claims about the damage done by Snowden. This seems to be a very one sided story. You have to give it to the US Government. They are using the press to do their bidding particularly in this situation.
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And...Of course you know who was President??? Mr. Bush...:) A REPUBLICAN
How are we to believe the president when he says "we're not listening" and "there are safeguards"? Are these the same safeguards that protected James Rosen with fabricated details like "he's a flight risk"? Or the same safeguards that keeps the IRS from targeting political groups? If the law can be twisted and broken by without any ramification, I suggest to you there are no safe guards. It is not civil liberties vs safety when the information gathered is this broad and preemptive vs an investigation. I fear the press is the only one left to defend us against our own government.
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Reblogged this on Michelle Sutton and commented:
Following the American dream? This sounds too similar to NZ's Government spy scandal http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8531588/Key-GCSB-should-be-able-to-spy-on-Kiwis
Isn't is amazing that all the Government has to do to justify anything is to use the two words: National Security. When I was a kid we were taught this was a Country of the people, by the people, for the people. Fast forward to today's United States and we have become a Country of the Government, by the Government, for the Government.
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I am an Obama supporter. But that does not mean I support everything he and his administration does. I'm glad that Snowden revealed the scope of the NSA data collection. And he was right, the government and the press are coming after him with everything they have rather than focusing on the real issues that he has raised. If Snowden wanted money or to betray the country, he would have sold the secrets to foreign governments. But that's not what he did. He put it out in the public domain for discussion. Because these programs are secret, not even our Congressmen can have an open discussion with American citizens about this.
I'm extremely disappointed that the mainstream press has taken the bait and are helping to attack the credibility and character of the whistle-blower. The press including Wolf Blitzer has not asked logical hard questions of the government spokesmen who are trotted out to go after Snowden. The press is letting the spokesmen get away ridiculous claims about the damage done by Snowden. This seems to be a very one sided story. You have to give it to the US Government. They are using the press to do their bidding particularly in this situation.
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