Republican former Utah Governor and 2012 presidential candidate talks to Brooke Baldwin about his views on the government shutdown, the looming debt ceiling and how serial government dysfunction is bad for the business climate.

GOP Rep. Jason Smith of Missouri tells Brooke Baldwin he plans to send back his salary during the government shutdown. He also discusses the House Republicans plan to try to fund government functions individually.

Washington DC mayor Vincent Gray talks to Brooke Baldwin about how his city, more tied to the federal government than any other, will deal with shutdown.