Brian Stelter and Mel Robbins join Carol to discuss ESPN anchor Stephen A Smith’s suspension.
A man should never put his hands on a women in anger. I agree. Just don't forget, men have emotions and that means that they also have pressure points. Even if he is provoked, that doesn't mean he should hit a women. However, there are women who like to take advantage of the fact that if a man does hit them, they will automatically be the victim no matter how wrong they were. They will push a sweet and innocent man to the point that he will do something he instantly regrets just so all the bad she did, if it was cheating or abusing him or whatever, makes him look like a bad guy. Yes, he could just walk away. To say it's his fault for not getting away from a women provoking him is like saying a battered women is at fault for not leaving. Like always, it's more complicated than that. I don't know if this is what Smith was trying to say, but it needed to be said considering the topic.
Haha its funny how CNN build a panel of three feminist women then bring in a guy to mix it up a little to state their opinion on what ESPN "ah to do" -Costello, with one of there prize employees…. Com’on! Carol and Mel you know dang well why ESPN didn’t suspend him sooner same reason CNN has the cameras on you ladies, because your good looking and charismatic and boy! you bring in the rating lol….with that said Stephane Smith is not wrong for making the comments that he made. As a sports analyst he did right thing by going outside the lines and acknowledge that theres a real issue and shine some light domestic violence whole and also women can sometime provoking men. by him acknowledging(indirectly) that women can actually sometimes provoke man by committing an assault or battery and now his being persecuted. Which is sometimes true certain women do “provoke” men, and yes men should follow the written law and the natural law to never hit a female, but where does society draw a line that say its never ok for a female to strike man. I know, we all know theres laws that protect everyone from any threat of or physical violence(assault/battery), nonetheless our society has instilled a mentality that its not a big deal when a female hit's man or eggs him on. You see over, and over; time, and time again,on all platform of the media, women slapping, spitting, and kicking,egging on ,and men are seen turning the other cheek. nothing can be so for from the true when a female commits act of assault or battery out of passion, even though their intention was never meant to harm that person in anyway, but did, and cause an severe reaction. turning the other cheek for a guys thats been trained to be aggressive since pop warner can be easy said then done. In Ray Rice case, I'm not saying his right for hitting his fiancé or that any man has the right to do what he did and claim it was a reflex or reaction, I’m just saying we can ignore or down play the fact that this is a real issue.
i agree with Jan Langbin that Smith comments did help this country have a dialogue about the subject, so why does he has to apologize and be punished for practicing his first amendment.
FYI Ray Rice is apologizes for his actions and also Janay Palmer "his then fiancé as indicated by Carol Costello" for her role she played that night altercation. Both Ray Rice and Janay Palmer, or may say Janay Palmer Rice wed the next day after the incident, and are still together. We may never no what real happen on that elevator but one thing is for sure, what ever happen on that elevator wasn’t enough to make Palmer not marry rice
Ii grew up seeing men physically and mentally abusing their significant other. And some women trying to fight back, while others tried to protect themselves from the blows of a mans fist and lastly, women trying to get away. Need I say that I saw my mother and father fighting often. It is a common thing in certain cultures and poverty stricken neighborhoods. I too became a victim of domestic violence and finally got the power and strength to call the police , take out restraining order and press charges. Of course I had to move and find a place away from the man, in a hurry before he would come after me. It is terrible that a man size fist finds its way on a woman's face. That football player ought to be ashamed and do sensitivity classes in reference to abusing women, I'm really hot about this. All the money he gets does not give him the right to hit any women
Sorry Carroll Costello but I have to disagree that Steven A Smith should have been suspended. I listened to his comment and he only was only talking about how the situation should have been avoided and did not excuse Ray Rice. He even suggested that he be suspended more than the 2 games.
He simply stated that arguments should not be provoked to avoid violent situations and I dont see why you called for his suspension.
I will be the first to say morally a
man should not put his hands on
a woman basically but you can't
take away a man right to defend
himself wheather it's male or if it
is a female
there are females who take the
advantage of the laws against
domestic violence to destroy the
man and the law give women a
but again if a woman put herself
in a man position then that law
should become questionable if
she uses martial defense and
cross the line between offense
and defense I feel that a man
should have ground to defend
himself by any means necessary
Stephen A Smith was not wrong in anything that he said, he just worded it incorrectly. Of course Carol Costello and Mel Robbins will take the woman's side without giving any weight to why this happened – they can't put up a logical arguement so it was just easy to attack someone. It's interesting they weren't screaming from the top of the Empire State Building for Solange Knowles' arrest after her violent assault on Jay Z (also caught on tape) – double standard, no way – Ms Costello has her integrity....riiight...@@. Just as men have absolutely no right to put their hands on a woman (fully agree on that issue), so do women NOT have a right to put their hands on a man. Men (especially athletes) are physically stronger and will do more damage when they raise their hands, but that does not imply that they are required to take abuse from their spouses either.
Physical abuse equates to mental abuse. Male nor female should be laying hands on their spouse in anger.
I have been physically abused by a woman. It on occasion caused minor injury. Everytime I got Karate chopped, every kick to the shin, and slap to the face. Deleted a small piece of myself.
For not only was I abused physically, but mentally as well. As they go hand in hand. If you ever, and I mean ever date a girl with a dragon tattoo, please I beg you. Run.
A guy loose pay for a man comment on a male t.v. show your not suppose to hit no one and women do provoke men America is truly becoming a country we got to belive that what people we don't know feel are we get punished from gays to the border of my bs state of Texas American haven't lived in the best country for a while.no espn tell Steven A Smith is back on August 6
Women should be taught that having female body parts is not an automatic license to attack men. Period! If you hit somebody they reserve the right to hit you back regardless of the size difference, it's the principle involved. Women should take responsibilty for their actions. Being a woman does not give you the right to assault men or even touch men. Deal with it.
Assault is assault regardless of gender. Someone being assaulted has the right to use reasonable force to cease an attack. Assault is a criminal act and the best way not to be hit is not to hit / strike / poke / provoke / scratch in the first place.
Carol was ABSOLUTELY wrong for calling for Stephen A Smith to be suspended (and I believe she knows it). I certainly hope she feels the same wrath one day... This was awful, vindictive reporting...
Brian Stelter, Mel Robbins and Carol Costello are plainly unintelligent people even though they seem otherwise. Stephen was clearly not trying to minimize the blame that should be placed on a man for abusing a woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1osIlUV-Pg "And there's never an excuse to put your hands on a woman"
Did Carol really listen to what Stephen was saying? SHAME on you, you petty reporter wasting our time on your apparently myopic crusade focused on your extremely sensitive feelings and easily offended sensibilities when there are so many real stories out there right now about people being murdered, women experiencing unbelievable abuse and actual incidents of crime; not just parsing of words. I think they should fire you, Carol for this one instance of amazing disrespect for us, the news viewing world and your pride in thinking we don't have better things to do. What is most sad is the levity with which you are focusing on Stephen's supposed lack of proper zeal against abuse of women and not the acts themselves. All three of you are laughing and carrying on while you vilify this man and not for one instant seem sad or solemn about the subject of the abuse of women. I am truly disgusted!
The comment of having Michelle Beadle do a segment on the abuse of women was an afterthought while you gleefully tried to tear apart Stephen.
What are you saying, that women never instigate DV? FBI statistics reveal otherwise. What a lynch party.
Being a female myself I didn't think he said anything wrong. Oh wait, he just wasn't boo hoo politically correct. Sheesh people the PC garbage is out of control now.
The outcry should be that Ray Rice's wife was not prosecuted for the FIVE TIMES she struck him before he retaliated. The outcry should be that society thinks it's perfectly fine for a woman to hit a man simply because she's upset at him. Beyonce Sister is a prime example.
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